DUST Search - Is this how you play Ambush?!? (5min vid)

Denchlad 7 wrote:

This is exactly why ambush and me have disagreements.

I either run a full proto squad of NF or DMG. We win nearly every single match with between 15-30 kills on average for me.

I run solo a lot, get similar kill scores but K/D drops from 7-15 to 2-4, as I run into twats like me. :)

1) No
2) Yes
3) Take games less serious, just talk about random stuff as you slay.
4) 90% of those who run Proto straight out of the blocks have 100s of millions of isk to burn (like me), and can afford to lose the suits. I only ever start with something else if its my first match of the day, so I can warm up (all BPO fits or APEX normally).
5) Escalation is logical, having silly amounts of isk is illogical. My first match of the day escalates, no others will.
6) Yes as my squads normally consist of 4 people and still destroy nearly everyone (not trying to be bigheaded, but 4 High SP slayers will nearly always win).
7) Gankers and Tankers are the wannabe tryhards (points at Nameless III, his bumboy David, and Kaizuka Sniper), who outside of Ambush are trash players. I tend to run varied suits focusing on a more broad approach (e.g. Trying to fit an Assault as a Scout and Logi, whilst keeping it as a slayer)
8) I want that so bloody bad. As much as I love Proto... an all Advanced mode with actual competition would be beautiful.

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J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 2524	Posted - 2015.03.27 21:52:00 - [1] - Quote I don't dig running proto, did I do this right? Questions: Is matchmaking working? Is there a need to run a proto squad? How is this fun after a game or two? Why run proto at the start if once you die a time or 2 you immediately downgrade? Isn't it suppose to be an escalation not the other way around? Are you ready for squads to drop down to a max size of 4 in pubs? Why put anything but gank and tank? Whos ready for the meta lock? XD Edit: ambush starts after the 20sec or so plasma clip No Safety Net. My Youtube TLDR : XD
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1363	Posted - 2015.03.27 22:31:00 - [2] - Quote Nice 3X On the plc. Now for the ??s. Matchmaking isn't working. There isnt a need for a proto squad in pubs, a competent, organized squad is enough. People run proto squads to maximize profit, minimize loss, and stoke their egos with false inflation. It isnt fun, its cost efficient I guess People start in proto to get a headstart, then if they start hemorrhaging isk, they downgrade to save I generally always play adv, I have 1 or 2 proto versions of my different suits for tough fights, except commando I'm still trying to burn through the event Neo suits. I'm very ready, 6 man squads are too much. Tank and gank isn't fun, I like diverse goofy fits, been running a rep/damp/speed assault for awhile now. I'd like meta level locked tiers, with an optional free for all mode with no restrictions that doesnt revolve around waiting for fw or pc timers. Ps. Stream Moar Twitch! Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
Joseph Ridgeson warravens 3531	Posted - 2015.03.27 22:53:00 - [3] - Quote Awesome times 3 on the PLC. Was wondering "Uhh, has J0lly lost his marbles? That's not Ambush." Questions: 1. I dunno. At times, it seems close. The problem is that it has a tendency to go "this is a squad of 6, put them against 2 squads of 2." I think the biggest problem is that a Squad of 6 people are able to absolutely route 16 random players and it is difficult for a single player to get the cats herded. IE, it is hard to convince people to take my safe Uplink so we can grab the objective. 2. Is there a need to run a Squad to begin with? This is a loaded question. I don't run Squads 98% of the time. People do it because that is THE best time to go Proto. With a Squad looking after you, you are less likely to die. Dying with a Prototype Suit and Weapon is easily over 120k. When you have total backup, it is safest to use Prototype then as opposed to using Advanced gear. 3. People like to win. They get their fun out of having a slightly different End of Match music and having big, massive scores against unorganized people. 4. In a Domination, the first team that can get to the point and lock it down is often the winner. Starting Prototype gives an advantage at that. For the downgrading bit, sometimes people don't have to downgrade because they don't die. If being in that Prototype suit stops you from dying when an Advanced suit would cause a death, it is obviously better and more cost efficient to be Prototype. People downgrade so they don't burn too much ISK if they have a death intensive game. 5. Why? It seems both make sense. "We are losing a lot of suits; bring out the big boys!" makes equal sense to me as "we are losing a lot of suits; bring out the cheap stuff!" At least starting with it as the potential of you being able to use it without losing it rather than 'throwing good money after bad.' 6. Sure. Doesn't bother me as I rarely am in a Squad. I don't know if having 2 less people will really help anything though. At the end of match, you will often see the top 4-6 places be 3-4 of the Squad guys with the rest a bit lower. There is only so much WP to go around. IE, I predict that 4 might stomp as hard as 6. Still, seems like it could b a helpful change. 7. When the job of the game is killing people, Gank and Tank seems to make the most sense. However, the Gank and Tank Scout will be seen by the Scout that is dampened and has precision mods. A Myofibril stacked suit can easily flank the Gank'n'Tank for a huge surprise. It isn't the be all and end all as much as it seems. 8. I dunno. I am the less evil of the Prototype guys I suppose. Solo Prototype. I can see making it Metalocked might royally screw over certain roles more than others as Standard equipment is terrible, advanced equipment is behind, and Prototype equipment is the only ones that are good. I think it is something like 15 second, 11 seconds, and 8 second spawn time for Uplinks. It will be interesting to see if the true Protostompers' words of "we can do that even in basic gear!" rings true. Watching your video, I remember why I don't play Ambush. Not even for the stomp but because of the "where is the enemy team?" after you kill them. At least Domination puts everyone in the blender. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Dreis Shadowweaver Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 2378	Posted - 2015.03.27 22:56:00 - [4] - Quote This is exactly why I don't play Ambush. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 I'm a monster
Denchlad 7 Negative-Feedback. 1841	Posted - 2015.03.27 23:12:00 - [5] - Quote This is exactly why ambush and me have disagreements. I either run a full proto squad of NF or DMG. We win nearly every single match with between 15-30 kills on average for me. I run solo a lot, get similar kill scores but K/D drops from 7-15 to 2-4, as I run into twats like me. :) 1) No 2) Yes 3) Take games less serious, just talk about random stuff as you slay. 4) 90% of those who run Proto straight out of the blocks have 100s of millions of isk to burn (like me), and can afford to lose the suits. I only ever start with something else if its my first match of the day, so I can warm up (all BPO fits or APEX normally). 5) Escalation is logical, having silly amounts of isk is illogical. My first match of the day escalates, no others will. 6) Yes as my squads normally consist of 4 people and still destroy nearly everyone (not trying to be bigheaded, but 4 High SP slayers will nearly always win). 7) Gankers and Tankers are the wannabe tryhards (points at Nameless III, his bumboy David, and Kaizuka Sniper), who outside of Ambush are trash players. I tend to run varied suits focusing on a more broad approach (e.g. Trying to fit an Assault as a Scout and Logi, whilst keeping it as a slayer) 8) I want that so bloody bad. As much as I love Proto... an all Advanced mode with actual competition would be beautiful. "Dench stop hitting your head you Caldari pinball" - m621 zma Currently on Dust hiatus.
Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 837	Posted - 2015.03.27 23:27:00 - [6] - Quote 1. How much do you charge for long range PLC kill lessons. 2. I sincerely hope no new player ever comes into a match with you or your buttte pirates . 3. christ almighty your video's are awesome to watch so thanks for that. 4. i think you just showed me how to use the RR properly. 5. you should be nerfed. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix 773	Posted - 2015.03.27 23:32:00 - [7] - Quote A fine hit
Bri Bub Eternal Beings 162	Posted - 2015.03.27 23:48:00 - [8] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: Nice 3X On the plc!!!!! A-PHUKKING-MAZING that you got those three snipers at once LIKE THAT!!! I immediately paused just to post this... Be just and if you can't be just be arbitrary.
CHET CHEWS Titans of Phoenix 54	Posted - 2015.03.28 01:39:00 - [9] - Quote Denchlad 7 wrote: This is exactly why ambush and me have disagreements. I either run a full proto squad of NF or DMG. We win nearly every single match with between 15-30 kills on average for me. I run solo a lot, get similar kill scores but K/D drops from 7-15 to 2-4, as I run into twats like me. :) 1) No 2) Yes 3) Take games less serious, just talk about random stuff as you slay. 4) 90% of those who run Proto straight out of the blocks have 100s of millions of isk to burn (like me), and can afford to lose the suits. I only ever start with something else if its my first match of the day, so I can warm up (all BPO fits or APEX normally). 5) Escalation is logical, having silly amounts of isk is illogical. My first match of the day escalates, no others will. 6) Yes as my squads normally consist of 4 people and still destroy nearly everyone (not trying to be bigheaded, but 4 High SP slayers will nearly always win). 7) Gankers and Tankers are the wannabe tryhards (points at Nameless III, his bumboy David, and Kaizuka Sniper), who outside of Ambush are trash players. I tend to run varied suits focusing on a more broad approach (e.g. Trying to fit an Assault as a Scout and Logi, whilst keeping it as a slayer) 8) I want that so bloody bad. As much as I love Proto... an all Advanced mode with actual competition would be beautiful. A like for you sir, "Speak the truth you do"- Yoda 2015- New book! Fifty Sades Of Scorpio coming to a store near you!
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1201	Posted - 2015.03.28 01:54:00 - [10] - Quote Makes me wonder what would happen if friendly fire was enabled ONLY for suqads in Public matches? As in, you can shoot others who are in your squad, but no one else on your team. A lot of the time those guys were blindly shooting at one another to see if the health bar was going down. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.

CHET CHEWS Titans of Phoenix 54	Posted - 2015.03.28 01:57:00 - [11] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Makes me wonder what would happen if friendly fire was enabled ONLY for suqads in Public matches? As in, you can shoot others who are in your squad, but no one else on your team. A lot of the time those guys were blindly shooting at one another to see if the health bar was going down. I would join a squad in mid battle and kill the idiots in it that are either 1:Sniping 2:Afk'ing Muahahahaha Im so evil "FU CHET CHEWS"- Sumar load 2014-2015
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1202	Posted - 2015.03.28 02:00:00 - [12] - Quote CHET CHEWS wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Makes me wonder what would happen if friendly fire was enabled ONLY for suqads in Public matches? As in, you can shoot others who are in your squad, but no one else on your team. A lot of the time those guys were blindly shooting at one another to see if the health bar was going down. I would join a squad in mid battle and kill the idiots in it that are either 1:Sniping 2:Afk'ing Muahahahaha Im so evil The problem with what you think is sneaky, is that you'd end up dead a lot more often than the sniper, and AFK's usually don't squad unless they know the people they're with. Ever try to sneak up on a sniper that can see your location from 150m out? You can't dampen and they can track you till you flee from the squad, or they kick you. Either way one would look like a coward afterwards. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
CHET CHEWS Titans of Phoenix 55	Posted - 2015.03.28 02:01:00 - [13] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: CHET CHEWS wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Makes me wonder what would happen if friendly fire was enabled ONLY for suqads in Public matches? As in, you can shoot others who are in your squad, but no one else on your team. A lot of the time those guys were blindly shooting at one another to see if the health bar was going down. I would join a squad in mid battle and kill the idiots in it that are either 1:Sniping 2:Afk'ing Muahahahaha Im so evil The problem with what you think is sneaky, is that you'd end up dead a lot more often than the sniper, and AFK's usually don't squad unless they know the people they're with. Ever try to sneak up on a sniper that can see your location from 150m out? You can't dampen and they can track you till you flee from the squad. I lke the way you think my friend... "FU CHET CHEWS"- Sumar load 2014-2015
4lbert Wesker Mithril Forge E-R-A 170	Posted - 2015.03.28 02:14:00 - [14] - Quote You're not so badass against more decent players :) I fought you on some ambush matches and you are not so good as people think you are :) Average movement,average aiming(almost killed you 1v1 while you were full and I was on half armor half hour ago).Without that jumping disgrace that CCP put on this game,you are only a sad,little man on the field :) Public skirmish = camping games
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 546	Posted - 2015.03.28 02:15:00 - [15] - Quote It's not just the proto gear; It is the premade, organized squad on comms against the casual randoms. Pubs should be no squads and no que syncing by individuals. Level the pub playing field for the casuals, solo and new player that just wants to jump in and out quick for some simple fun. Tryhards have their mode, it's PC. Death is a serious businessGÇª So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 2529	Posted - 2015.03.28 02:22:00 - [16] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: You're not so badass against more decent players :) I fought you on some ambush matches and you are not so good as people think you are :) Average movement,average aiming(almost killed you 1v1 while you were full and I was on half armor half hour ago).Without that jumping disgrace that CCP put on this game,you are only a sad,little man on the field :) You remember me, I don't remember you. XD No Safety Net. My Youtube TLDR : XD
Diablo Gamekeeper KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 173	Posted - 2015.03.28 02:28:00 - [17] - Quote That is why I only run games with Jack Krauser every since the Warlords update "I think he just Assert Dominance all over my face."-Saxonmish
CHET CHEWS Titans of Phoenix 55	Posted - 2015.03.28 02:46:00 - [18] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: You're not so badass against more decent players :) I fought you on some ambush matches and you are not so good as people think you are :) Average movement,average aiming(almost killed you 1v1 while you were full and I was on half armor half hour ago).Without that jumping disgrace that CCP put on this game,you are only a sad,little man on the field :) All you do is talk smack bruh iyou suck albert you barely go positive on matches and that if their team is 90 percent militia "FU CHET CHEWS"- Sumar load 2014-2015
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 974	Posted - 2015.03.28 02:47:00 - [19] - Quote Ambush is whack , just sayin :) Nice shootin out there with that RR , I need to try that **** out. Only rifle I have used is regular assault and tactical assault.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 8358	Posted - 2015.03.28 03:16:00 - [20] - Quote Your side was missing a GalLogi. If the map isn't lit up constantly, you're doing it wrong. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley

Denchlad 7 Negative-Feedback. 1844	Posted - 2015.03.28 03:25:00 - [21] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: You're not so badass against more decent players :) I fought you on some ambush matches and you are not so good as people think you are :) Average movement,average aiming(almost killed you 1v1 while you were full and I was on half armor half hour ago).Without that jumping disgrace that CCP put on this game,you are only a sad,little man on the field :) You're from lolMF. That automatically makes everything you say invalid. lolMF lolERA ... lolCP "Dench stop hitting your head you Caldari pinball" - m621 zma Currently on Dust hiatus.
Lorhak Gannarsein Nos Nothi 4483	Posted - 2015.03.28 06:55:00 - [22] - Quote Isn't a matchmaker, is a teambuilder. Adipem Nothi wrote: J0LLY R0G3R wrote: ...did I do this right? Almost. Your side was missing a GalLogi. If the map isn't lit up constantly for you and your entire team, you're doing it wrong. Thank god for Haerr or I don't know what I'd do. Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'. And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
8213 Blauhelme E.B.O.L.A. 2195	Posted - 2015.03.28 07:22:00 - [23] - Quote Matchmaking can't predict how well you choose to play. When I run Ambush wrecking crews, it is boring. But, I basically use it as an ISK generator. Nameless, David, Al the Snow, and I the other day made 10M in 2 hours. It's not proto itself. It's tactics clashing with Ambush's one sided spawn system. 99% of all pub matches are decided in the warbarge. Very rarely does an upset occur when both teams play "as intended". Than again good teams can he reduced to trash vie way of broken game mechanics I know what 32 people are doing at once. Trick is, I really only need to pay attention to 31...
4lbert Wesker Mithril Forge E-R-A 171	Posted - 2015.03.28 12:19:00 - [24] - Quote J0LLY R0G3R wrote: 4lbert Wesker wrote: You're not so badass against more decent players :) I fought you on some ambush matches and you are not so good as people think you are :) Average movement,average aiming(almost killed you 1v1 while you were full and I was on half armor half hour ago).Without that jumping disgrace that CCP put on this game,you are only a sad,little man on the field :) You remember me, I don't remember you. XD I have a good memory :) @ CHET CHEWS Oh look,shotgun noob who fires shotgun from 10 meters away.Did you liked how I stomped your noob ass yesterday? :) I remembered you very well because there are not so many noobs like you :) @Denchlad So,your arguments are valid because you are from """"""""""elite"""""""""" corporation? :) Public skirmish = camping games
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2593	Posted - 2015.03.28 17:01:00 - [25] - Quote Just started Plasma cannon on my alt. That shot is something I can aspire to o7. I honestly believe the two single biggest power multiplier - candidates being passive skills, suit tiers, squads, shared scans, map knowledge - in pubs are squads and shared scans. What do peeps think about getting rid of shared scans in pubs? Would it give the noobs more of a fighting chance? I think it would. PSN: RationalSpark
DIX RFOR CHICKS T.U.R.D. R.O.C.K. 272	Posted - 2015.03.28 17:05:00 - [26] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: J0LLY R0G3R wrote: 4lbert Wesker wrote: You're not so badass against more decent players :) I fought you on some ambush matches and you are not so good as people think you are :) Average movement,average aiming(almost killed you 1v1 while you were full and I was on half armor half hour ago).Without that jumping disgrace that CCP put on this game,you are only a sad,little man on the field :) You remember me, I don't remember you. XD I have a good memory :) @ CHET CHEWS Oh look,shotgun noob who fires shotgun from 10 meters away.Did you liked how I stomped your noob ass yesterday? :) I remembered you very well because there are not so many noobs like you :) @Denchlad So,your arguments are valid because you are from """"""""""elite"""""""""" corporation? :) Bro it doesn't help to come off with all this hatred and being so full of jelly. Just let it go. Breath. Masterbait. Kick a Kat. No need to take it out on people. Jolly is a all around nice guy. Your attack is unjustified. You don't like your sh!tty corp? Come join mine. 40% taxes...no organized BS to worry about. And weekly circle jerks. You go first though. Dont be Jelly. Be Happy.


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