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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion
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Posted - 2015.03.28 12:36:00 -
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Hotfix Gulf will have to include some renaming at this rate...
Tactical AR > AR
AR > Assault AR
ScR > Tactical ScR
Assault ScR > ScR
...I feel like the variants will be completely outdoing the base models, is what I'm saying.
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.03.28 17:28:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:scrambler is high skill?
keep charged and spam at short range, give me a break
Sounds like the risk vs reward and higher skill requirement is working as intended. That tactic only really works on Amassaults, much like the entire weapon. On any other suit you are better off just using a TacAR, even on an Amando.
But I'll admit, by nature of it being a hitscan rifle, the ScR isn't exactly a high skill weapon, more of an intermediate skilled weapon than a truly high skill weapon.
But it always has and still does require the most out of the players amongst the racial rifles.
Trying to argue against that would be silly... None of the other rifles even come close to requiring the mental juggling that a ScR does, even if it is only juggling two pins.
But whatever. I honestly don't really care anymore. At this point I'm just arguing balance to argue balance. Call me crazy, but I enjoy arguing game balance a little bit, and this is one of the only forums that you can do it directly with a dev.
But I just can't bring myself to actually care about the game that this has become.
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.03.29 01:22:00 -
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Zeke Dunevent wrote:On another note, I would like to say that Kaizuka is brilliant. It took me a couple seconds and multiple rereads of his posts before I could make sense of them, but when I did I completely agree with him.
Care to provide a better articulated translation?
I'm having a hard time stringing together their thoughts into something coherent.
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.03.29 09:14:00 -
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I demand evidence and comparisons to all the other rifles.
I want to see K/S, usage, market data, ect. Also I want to see what suit the ScR is most equipped to. Not that I need the evidence to know that it is the Amassault by a landslide, but confirmation would be nice.
Also, I'd like to see how its K/S fares when it is used on an Amassault vs all other suits.
I refuse to believe that the K/S and usage rates have both gone up after multiple direct nerfs, alongside buffs to the direct competition.
Bullshit.
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.03.29 09:33:00 -
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And the whole "its a low skill weapon" from R is complete and utter garbage. And he knows it.
He should be ashamed. Part of his job is to analyze data.
But yet he can't make the connection between skill level and usage rates? Get real.
Balancing 101.
Skill:Power is core, and yet he is downright ignoring it. No wonder the ScP and IoP are shite. He isn't taking skill into account at all.
If the ScR was a real low skill weapon, and actually OP, its usage rates wouldn't be so low.
And what is the ideal K/S ratio for rifles? Should it be the same as the others? No. It should very much so be higher than the other rifles.
And if we are really going to balance based on K/S and usage rates, shouldn't Snipers and HAVs also be nerfed? I know their K/S is even higher than the ScR, and their usage rate is probably about the same!
How about HMGs? Their K/S is probably through the roof, and their have rate is still one of the highest! On top of being a real low skill weapon.
Real Balance ----> Through Window
Fake Hard Balance ----> Here to stay, apparently.
I've slowly gotten sick of all the casual scrub BS you've been implementing, R.
>Pistols Nerfed, and SMGs buffed in same update.
>Bolt Pistol is decent. Nerfed.
>PLCs made easier with almost flat trajectory.
>Assault-type rifles buffed left and right, with the AScR getting the biggest over buff I've seen since 1.0 TacARs.
>Myoscrubrils added for easy getaways and casualmode players.
>Last bastion of skilled marksmen, the ScR, soon to be nerfed.
#CoDcasualRatatti514
I'm so sick of this game. Its been a slow decent to **** since 1.8
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.03.29 21:30:00 -
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-stupid internet-
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.03.29 21:31:00 -
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[quote=Georgia Xavier
on fizzer's defence, the ScR has received many nerfs already. It may actually be op but a number of nerfs on a single weapon can annoy people more than one or two proper nerfs
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That is true, but it is beyond just that though. I actually prefer more smaller adjustments because its better for balance.
Its the constant catering to casual bads by CCP.
The game is more and more catering to High RoF bullethoses and strafey strafey "gun game" on every update.
They are nerfing pkayer skill in favor of hard balance, which is the most hollow and boring kind of balance to have.
Every high-skill weapon I've ever specced into has wither been nerfed to the point of being obsolete compared to the low skill competition, or made easier to appeal to the bads.
The trend has in particular, started after Fanfest 2013. About when Ratatti was handed the reins...
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.03.31 11:51:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:
Why are rail-tech sniper rifles limited to a 400m range?
Because space magic.
Why do warp capable spaceships fly like submarines?
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.03.31 12:04:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:o_O
Buff TAR and nerf SCR? Really?
That seems pretty odd. why does it seem odd? because every player in the game right now knows the Tac Ar is the better choice then the scrambler. no amount of data mineing could leave you that blind to balance. Considering I haven'tbeen killed by a tac ar in months I have to consider that statement as suspect.
Doesn't mean it isn't better than the ScR.
The only advantage that ScR has over TacAR is charge shot, a more predictable recoil pattern, and a few more meters of range.
Literally everything is better on TacARs... Everything.
Damage/DPS.
Damage per Mag.
Fitting Costs.
Better hipfire accuracy.
No heat.
Less Recoil.
Better Damage profile.
Doesn't need Amassault to be competitive.
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.03.31 13:40:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:
Doesn't mean it isn't better than the ScR.
The only advantage that ScR has over TacAR is charge shot, a more predictable recoil pattern, and a few more meters of range.
Literally everything is better on TacARs... Everything.
Damage/DPS.
Damage per Mag.
Fitting Costs.
Better hipfire accuracy.
No heat.
Less Recoil.
Better Damage profile.
Doesn't need Amassault to be competitive.
Your Kidding me right? The ScR is way superior to the TAR in CQC combat. The TAR and ScR are literally night and day in CQC performance.
How so?
The Tac has a tighter hipfire, more damage per shot, and effectively more rounds in the mag. They both have identical RoF...
Stick to shooting, ReG.
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.03.31 17:26:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:
Doesn't mean it isn't better than the ScR.
The only advantage that ScR has over TacAR is charge shot, a more predictable recoil pattern, and a few more meters of range.
Literally everything is better on TacARs... Everything.
Damage/DPS.
Damage per Mag.
Fitting Costs.
Better hipfire accuracy.
No heat.
Less Recoil.
Better Damage profile.
Doesn't need Amassault to be competitive.
Damage 1.5 Damage per shot does not constitute "higher damage". This is the difference between Adv and Standard on some weapons. OK. I don't want to ever see you complain about AScRs being better than the AR, k?
Damage per Mag Get the **** out of here. Seriously? This isn't even mathematically true and it's grounds for me to dismiss everything you're saying because you're lying to people. Duvolle TAR does 1,752 damage per mag, Viziam Scrambler does 2,145. I said effective Damage per Mag. Ad in factoring in the heat. ScRs overheat before a TacAR has to reload.Fitting Costs Congrats. 2 CPU and 7 PG. Can we go ahead and nerf the Assault Ak.0 for having 9 more PG than the Assault Mk.0? EDIT: Btw, this also means you get a much greater benefit from Assault role bonus and Proficiency skills. Just figured I'd mention it in case you forgot while spewing out your terrible arguments. Ive seen you ***** about ACRs being easier to fit than ARs, and that's by even less than this.
Better Hipfire Accuracy Doubt it. Would need to actually back in the game and look. Fairly certain that's not the case because the hipfire hasn't changed much/at all since I made this video, which clearly demonstrates that the Scrambler Rifle has a much tighter hipfire than the TAR Fun fact: ARs have this magical skill called "Sharpshooter" that tightens hipfire. Also, the Assault bonus further tightens it! No such skill exists for the ScR...No Heat And originally you could shoot more rounds with a Scrambler Rifle than the TAR had in it's magazine before overheating on a suit -other- than an Amarr suit. Are you saying that because they buffed the TAR's mag capacity that it's somehow unbalanced? Yes. 24 round mags without overheat is OP. That is exactly what I am saying. Even with Amassault to V, the ScR still overheats on the 23rd round.
Less recoil And the Scrambler has absolutely no muzzle climb. Where's your argument fall now? The Scrambler rifle most certainly does have muzzle climb. More than the TacAR, actually...Better Damage Profile You have a charge. Damage profile doesn't mean jack when you can charge for x3 damage. Doesn't need AmAssault to be competitive You've got multiple videos showing that this is simply not true. It's competitive, the AmAssault just makes it that much better. It's like saying that a Combat Rifle requires a MinAssault to be competitive. Then why isn't it almost unused in PC on anything but Amassaults?EDIT: Please stop trying to sound smart if you're just going to blindly defend the Scrambler Rifle with baseless information and incorrect data.
STFU. None of my info is ever baseless or knowingly incorrect.
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