DUST Search - SNIPERS NEED A BUFF

LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:

Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:

50 FPS on PS3... damn buddy, not even the PS4 would be able to do that. You should just wait for the PC-Version, like most of us do.

LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:

I would agree to a stable 30 frames per second and being able to actually shoot the guy standing in front of me consistently.

30fps in a competitve shooter... nah man. It should really run at 60 but I don't see that ever happen on a console.

Except in battlefield, CoD, and all the new Halo games/re-masters.

Which means, every modern competitive shooter.

Also, losing an argument in the dust forums means permadeath, so no more posting is allowed on your behalf.

Posting after permadeath.

You are crazy for even considering 60 FPS on a console as viable. Considering it on the PS3 is border line insanity.

Comparing Dust to battlefield, CoD, and Halo in terms of achievable frame rates should result in a 24 hour ban. The size of the map designs specifically the fact that the maps go on for several hundred meters in to the redline in all directions guarantees that all of the memory on the PS3 is locked up and that is before you examine the fact that every character, vehicle, and installation is rendered as a separate model. Even if we had triple the amount of ram on the PS3 there would likely still be frame rate drops because bad design is bad design.

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Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6777	Posted - 2015.03.23 17:20:00 - [1] - Quote If we could just get a stable framerate of at least 50, and have hit detection fixed for all guns, that'd be great. Seriously, though. If we could get a patch similar to Uprising 1.6 where the core game mechanics improved like 10 fold, the game would be much more enjoyable... ... Or playable, for some people.
Otoky Dead Man's Game RUST415 180	Posted - 2015.03.23 17:28:00 - [2] - Quote As a sniper, I say NO!
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 124	Posted - 2015.03.23 17:30:00 - [3] - Quote but its fine isn't it? I mean I get revenge on Proto snipers with a god damned mlt sniper to the head! How many amarr does it take to change a light bulb? none. The minmatar do it for them
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6777	Posted - 2015.03.23 17:47:00 - [4] - Quote I think you guys missed the point by not reading the actual content of my post.
JIMvc2 Consolidated Dust 829	Posted - 2015.03.23 17:48:00 - [5] - Quote I got killed by this sniper and he did 1300 damage. Don't tell me that it was tank because it wasn't. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Die YOU SHADOW BEING IN THE DARK!!!
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game RUST415 488	Posted - 2015.03.23 17:51:00 - [6] - Quote Why giving such a name to a topic that, indeed, is important to be read? Fix the game before trying to add anything else. (Hint: hit detection, lags, glitches,.. you've got some work :) )
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1861	Posted - 2015.03.23 18:55:00 - [7] - Quote Joel II X wrote: I think you guys missed the point by not reading the actual content of my post. Change your title. No one cares about snipers. Crush them
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6778	Posted - 2015.03.23 19:05:00 - [8] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: Why giving such a name to a topic that, indeed, is important to be read? I happened to be sniping earlier today and noticed that while all weaponry and the overall game is pretty poor in terms of performance, it hurts the sniper, forge, plasma Cannon to an extent, and a few other alpha weapons possibly the most. The sniper has relatively a slow Ron, requires precision and is intended for long ranges, having a lower chance of recovery from the previous shot unless you have a Tactical (which is more like an Assault variant rather then tactical, but whatever).
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 2962	Posted - 2015.03.23 19:51:00 - [9] - Quote I lub it when I get a perfect headshot on a running scout, only to have his shields flash >_< Plasma Cannon :3 Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Vesta Opalus T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 537	Posted - 2015.03.23 20:47:00 - [10] - Quote Joel II X wrote: I think you guys missed the point by not reading the actual content of my post. America! Reading comprehension is not allowed! I was just talking about this with a friend, if the next hotfix was 100% improvements to framerate or whatever it would be absolutely worth it and I would give them like 5 dollars at least.

Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 534	Posted - 2015.03.23 20:50:00 - [11] - Quote Joel II X wrote: If we could just get a stable framerate of at least 50, and have hit detection fixed for all guns, that'd be great. Seriously, though. If we could get a patch similar to Uprising 1.6 where the core game mechanics improved like 10 fold, the game would be much more enjoyable... ... Or playable, for some people. They need a a defined role with suit, role and skill based bonuses to how they would operate. Not a buff, just definition. Death is a serious businessGÇª So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
Golden Day Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1227	Posted - 2015.03.23 20:58:00 - [12] - Quote Brought 20$ Respec for proto cal assault and sniping....tottaly worth it Until you die by a milita sniper I know you wan't it *( -í° -£-û -í°)*
First Prophet Nos Nothi 2767	Posted - 2015.03.23 21:03:00 - [13] - Quote Joel II X wrote: I think you guys missed the point by not reading the actual content of my post. Might help if you made the title match the content. People find this this review helpful!
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 18980	Posted - 2015.03.23 21:04:00 - [14] - Quote ... I think OPs title should be frame rates and hit detection need a buff. CPM 1, Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6782	Posted - 2015.03.23 23:55:00 - [15] - Quote Due to popular demand, I changed the title. I still believe that frame rate and hit detection buff would help the snipers more so than other weapons. Much more.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6782	Posted - 2015.03.23 23:57:00 - [16] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: I lub it when I get a perfect headshot on a running scout, only to have his shields flash >_< I hit a militia frame 5 times with Symb's today while walking. All blue shields. Once he stood still, only then did my shot register. Made me sad.
Otoky Dead Man's Game RUST415 180	Posted - 2015.03.24 00:33:00 - [17] - Quote Whops, double post.
DR DEESE NUTS Algintal Core Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2015.03.24 02:01:00 - [18] - Quote Buff frame rate and hit detection. Nurf lag. This sounds like a good idea. The USS m`dick
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 347	Posted - 2015.03.24 10:43:00 - [19] - Quote I would agree to a stable 30 frames per second and being able to actually shoot the guy standing in front of me consistently.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2723	Posted - 2015.03.24 10:56:00 - [20] - Quote 50 FPS on PS3... damn buddy, not even the PS4 would be able to do that. You should just wait for the PC-Version, like most of us do. LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: I would agree to a stable 30 frames per second and being able to actually shoot the guy standing in front of me consistently. 30fps in a competitve shooter... nah man. It should really run at 60 but I don't see that ever happen on a console. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!

TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 1001	Posted - 2015.03.24 11:01:00 - [21] - Quote What would be the best engine available on the PS3 to run Dust? It's clearly not the current one... Found my favorite DJ - ATB
Genral69 death Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 126	Posted - 2015.03.24 11:17:00 - [22] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: I got killed by this sniper and he did 1300 damage. Don't tell me that it was tank because it wasn't. The roden sniper can take down proto heavys with a head shot General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 347	Posted - 2015.03.24 11:31:00 - [23] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: What would be the best engine available on the PS3 to run Dust? It's clearly not the current one... The game engine is not at fault for code created by people that did not know the engine being the base. Getting forced off of Carbon was the thing that doomed us. I would be very interested in seeing a full rebuild now that CCP has a firm grasp of UE3 cough LEGION
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 5486	Posted - 2015.03.24 12:39:00 - [24] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: 50 FPS on PS3... damn buddy, not even the PS4 would be able to do that. You should just wait for the PC-Version, like most of us do. LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: I would agree to a stable 30 frames per second and being able to actually shoot the guy standing in front of me consistently. 30fps in a competitve shooter... nah man. It should really run at 60 but I don't see that ever happen on a console. Except in battlefield, CoD, and all the new Halo games/re-masters. Which means, every modern competitive shooter. Also, losing an argument in the dust forums means permadeath, so no more posting is allowed on your behalf. Usually banned for being too awesome.
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 709	Posted - 2015.03.24 12:41:00 - [25] - Quote I feel like they had a few bugs, some memory leaks, and slowdown in Skirmish 1.0 with the moving MCC, so they just gave up on Carbon. They said Unreal 3 could solve all of these problems, where Carbon was just too much for ancient PS3 hardware. Many of the kids playing this game were born after the PS3 was born. I mentioned Dust 514 to a 10 year/old and he said he had heard of it because some of his friends play it. Side topic I know, but one of the key demographics for a free game will be those kids who don't have any sort of income. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 348	Posted - 2015.03.24 13:23:00 - [26] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: 50 FPS on PS3... damn buddy, not even the PS4 would be able to do that. You should just wait for the PC-Version, like most of us do. LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: I would agree to a stable 30 frames per second and being able to actually shoot the guy standing in front of me consistently. 30fps in a competitve shooter... nah man. It should really run at 60 but I don't see that ever happen on a console. Except in battlefield, CoD, and all the new Halo games/re-masters. Which means, every modern competitive shooter. Also, losing an argument in the dust forums means permadeath, so no more posting is allowed on your behalf. Posting after permadeath. You are crazy for even considering 60 FPS on a console as viable. Considering it on the PS3 is border line insanity. Comparing Dust to battlefield, CoD, and Halo in terms of achievable frame rates should result in a 24 hour ban. The size of the map designs specifically the fact that the maps go on for several hundred meters in to the redline in all directions guarantees that all of the memory on the PS3 is locked up and that is before you examine the fact that every character, vehicle, and installation is rendered as a separate model. Even if we had triple the amount of ram on the PS3 there would likely still be frame rate drops because bad design is bad design.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6798	Posted - 2015.03.24 14:31:00 - [27] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: 50 FPS on PS3... damn buddy, not even the PS4 would be able to do that. You should just wait for the PC-Version, like most of us do. LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: I would agree to a stable 30 frames per second and being able to actually shoot the guy standing in front of me consistently. 30fps in a competitve shooter... nah man. It should really run at 60 but I don't see that ever happen on a console. Except in battlefield, CoD, and all the new Halo games/re-masters. Which means, every modern competitive shooter. Also, losing an argument in the dust forums means permadeath, so no more posting is allowed on your behalf. Posting after permadeath. You are crazy for even considering 60 FPS on a console as viable. Considering it on the PS3 is border line insanity. Comparing Dust to battlefield, CoD, and Halo in terms of achievable frame rates should result in a 24 hour ban. The size of the map designs specifically the fact that the maps go on for several hundred meters in to the redline in all directions guarantees that all of the memory on the PS3 is locked up and that is before you examine the fact that every character, vehicle, and installation is rendered as a separate model. Even if we had triple the amount of ram on the PS3 there would likely still be frame rate drops because bad design is bad design. A stable 40 frames per second can be reached relatively easily on the PS3 at the very least even with plenty of stuff on the screen. I think Naughty Dog and Insomniac has done that.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 349	Posted - 2015.03.24 14:50:00 - [28] - Quote Joel II X wrote: A stable 40 frames per second can be reached relatively easily on the PS3 at the very least even with plenty of stuff on the screen. I think Naughty Dog and Insomniac has done that. The difference is they are not rendering maps almost 5x the size of the play area with extra models that are so far away from the field of battle that they are barely even significant as background. Poor decisions by the original team when they switched to UE3 have always and will always plague this game.
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 451	Posted - 2015.03.24 14:58:00 - [29] - Quote Joel II X wrote: If we could just get a stable framerate of at least 50, and have hit detection fixed for all guns, that'd be great. Seriously, though. If we could get a patch similar to Uprising 1.6 where the core game mechanics improved like 10 fold, the game would be much more enjoyable... ... Or playable, for some people. Your asking something that we Vets have been screaming about for years now. CCP's been using that time to make phone apps. *\|LOGi GOD\|* Director of Fatal Absolution
Michael Epic Horizons' Edge 730	Posted - 2015.03.24 15:09:00 - [30] - Quote The hit detection in Uprising 1.6 was 10x better than what it is now! The game mechanics were solid back then! Michael Epic's "EPIC" Proposal to his girlfriend :D

Starfire Revo Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 325	Posted - 2015.03.24 17:15:00 - [31] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: 30fps in a competitve shooter... nah man. It should really run at 60 but I don't see that ever happen on a console. Been playing Timesplitters 3 on the Gamecube recently and it manages it. I'd be interested in knowing how much they would have to scale back how the game looks to push the framerate up to 60. I make videos of EVE and Dust http://www.youtube.com/mrgimbleb I write about EVE and Dust http://mrgimbleb.blogspot.com
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 190	Posted - 2015.03.24 17:31:00 - [32] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: 50 FPS on PS3... damn buddy, not even the PS4 would be able to do that. You should just wait for the PC-Version, like most of us do. LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: I would agree to a stable 30 frames per second and being able to actually shoot the guy standing in front of me consistently. 30fps in a competitve shooter... nah man. It should really run at 60 but I don't see that ever happen on a console. Except in battlefield, CoD, and all the new Halo games/re-masters. Which means, every modern competitive shooter. Also, losing an argument in the dust forums means permadeath, so no more posting is allowed on your behalf. Posting after permadeath. You are crazy for even considering 60 FPS on a console as viable. Considering it on the PS3 is border line insanity. Comparing Dust to battlefield, CoD, and Halo in terms of achievable frame rates should result in a 24 hour ban. The size of the map designs specifically the fact that the maps go on for several hundred meters in to the redline in all directions guarantees that all of the memory on the PS3 is locked up and that is before you examine the fact that every character, vehicle, and installation is rendered as a separate model. Even if we had triple the amount of ram on the PS3 there would likely still be frame rate drops because bad design is bad design. You don't know what the hell you are talking about. Unless you are [i]only [/i ]saying that ps3 can't do 60 fps( which is wrong because COD does it and it can although dust would need to look worse and be optimized better,all of which would be achievement), otherwise the Xbone and PS4 DO run nearly all FPS games on 60fps and 900-1080p.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 354	Posted - 2015.03.24 17:39:00 - [33] - Quote Avinash Decker wrote: You don't know what the hell you are talking about. Unless you are saying that ps3 can't do 60 fps( which is wrong because COD does it and it can although dust would need to look worse and be optimized better,all of which would be achievement), otherwise the Xbone and PS4 DO run nearly all FPS games on 60fps and 900-1080p. I am referring to the PS3 but I am also referring to Dust in general. Memory use is horribly optimized on this game. When they built it they attempted to do background scenes in a way similar to how they work on Eve which just pounds the memory of the PS3. There is a video where the guy was lagged and able to run in to the redline for ever. He was able to run into the city way off in the distance and have it fully render even tho this was well over 1000m into the redline. It is this type of setup that ensures that the ram of the ps3 is just plain over flowed. This is why people experience so many fatal errors and hard freezes. When it comes to the PS4 I do not know the exact specs but I can tell you that bad code that messes up one platform will mess up any platform.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 5487	Posted - 2015.03.24 18:55:00 - [34] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: 50 FPS on PS3... damn buddy, not even the PS4 would be able to do that. You should just wait for the PC-Version, like most of us do. LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: I would agree to a stable 30 frames per second and being able to actually shoot the guy standing in front of me consistently. 30fps in a competitve shooter... nah man. It should really run at 60 but I don't see that ever happen on a console. Except in battlefield, CoD, and all the new Halo games/re-masters. Which means, every modern competitive shooter. Also, losing an argument in the dust forums means permadeath, so no more posting is allowed on your behalf. Posting after permadeath. You are crazy for even considering 60 FPS on a console as viable. Considering it on the PS3 is border line insanity. Comparing Dust to battlefield, CoD, and Halo in terms of achievable frame rates should result in a 24 hour ban. The size of the map designs specifically the fact that the maps go on for several hundred meters in to the redline in all directions guarantees that all of the memory on the PS3 is locked up and that is before you examine the fact that every character, vehicle, and installation is rendered as a separate model. Even if we had triple the amount of ram on the PS3 there would likely still be frame rate drops because bad design is bad design. The frame drops don't come from the map sizes. They come from the inventory system and poor optimization of the client handling it. Devs have already acknowledged this. Other factors, such as complex interiors, simply add to the load. Please don't theory craft your own reasoning. Thanks. Usually banned for being too awesome.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6801	Posted - 2015.03.24 19:16:00 - [35] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Joel II X wrote: A stable 40 frames per second can be reached relatively easily on the PS3 at the very least even with plenty of stuff on the screen. I think Naughty Dog and Insomniac has done that. The difference is they are not rendering maps almost 5x the size of the play area with extra models that are so far away from the field of battle that they are barely even significant as background. Poor decisions by the original team when they switched to UE3 have always and will always plague this game. I have suggested removing useless assets and terrain from maps as well in the past. It's not going to affect it much, but it WILL affect performance in a positive way. Also, I forgot which game it was, but the map was pretty large and so was the amount of stuff happening within that map. It's just the priorities they set out, such as a certain explosion not loading when you're far enough away from it, etc.
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 190	Posted - 2015.03.24 20:49:00 - [36] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Avinash Decker wrote: You don't know what the hell you are talking about. Unless you are saying that ps3 can't do 60 fps( which is wrong because COD does it and it can although dust would need to look worse and be optimized better,all of which would be achievement), otherwise the Xbone and PS4 DO run nearly all FPS games on 60fps and 900-1080p. I am referring to the PS3 but I am also referring to Dust in general. Memory use is horribly optimized on this game. When they built it they attempted to do background scenes in a way similar to how they work on Eve which just pounds the memory of the PS3. There is a video where the guy was lagged and able to run in to the redline for ever. He was able to run into the city way off in the distance and have it fully render even tho this was well over 1000m into the redline. It is this type of setup that ensures that the ram of the ps3 is just plain over flowed. This is why people experience so many fatal errors and hard freezes. When it comes to the PS4 I do not know the exact specs but I can tell you that bad code that messes up one platform will mess up any platform. It is no secret that dust is bad optimized game; but the thing is the Dust can run on 60fps it would just look worst. It depends on the engine like in BF3 some maps are really big, but I don't think the frame is terrible. COD's engine allows 60fps on consoles CCP could have chosen the right engine for what they wanted or optimized the game better.
D legendary hero WarRavens 1907	Posted - 2015.03.24 22:23:00 - [37] - Quote Joel II X wrote: If we could just get a stable framerate of at least 50, and have hit detection fixed for all guns, that'd be great. Seriously, though. If we could get a patch similar to Uprising 1.6 where the core game mechanics improved like 10 fold, the game would be much more enjoyable... ... Or playable, for some people. bumpity Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6809	Posted - 2015.03.25 01:38:00 - [38] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: Joel II X wrote: If we could just get a stable framerate of at least 50, and have hit detection fixed for all guns, that'd be great. Seriously, though. If we could get a patch similar to Uprising 1.6 where the core game mechanics improved like 10 fold, the game would be much more enjoyable... ... Or playable, for some people. bumpity Thanks o7 Oh, dear me. Did I just bump it again? Oops.


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