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Kinyuhk Goluhh
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.22 03:39:00 -
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The Assault Combat Rifle has terrible recoil and the Combat Rifle has terrible damage. I tested these two over and over comparing it to the Assault Rifle and chose in favor of it instead.
The ACR has just a tiny bit less accuracy than the AR but there's so much recoil that 90% of the entire clip hits everything! except what you're trying to hit! even if it's near point blank range, so close you can freakin' smell alien breathe! The hip fire is even worse, I predict you'd have to have level 5 skill just to have a use for it. I tested with level 2, 10% less gun kick and it's like that.
The CR reminds me of an M16 with the scope and 3 round burst and seems pretty accurate except it isn't even enough to make anyone flinch with that pitiful damage! It's the same here! A tiny bit less damage than the AR but still that weak!
CCP! You lie to me with the ACR's accuracy rating and CR's damage rating!
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.03.22 03:47:00 -
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Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote:The Assault Combat Rifle has terrible recoil and the Combat Rifle has terrible damage. I tested these two over and over comparing it to the Assault Rifle and chose in favor of it instead.
3/10
(if you're serious, keep investing SP in CR)
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.03.22 03:51:00 -
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I have lvl 5 everything for the Cr, the damn thing is basically a laser pointer that does over 100+ DMG a burst at that point. If you don't put in the work expect to get less.
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WeapondigitX V7
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2015.03.22 03:56:00 -
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The ACR does have larger recoil in comparision to other weapons, that is however useful in 5-12m engagements on full auto firing against straffing minmatar assaults, the recoil also changes so quickly that practiced bursts can allow you to burst fire and maintain any level of hip fire accuracy you prefer at 10- 20m ranges. If you want less hipfire accuracy at a certain level, fire full auto until that accuracy is found then burst fire at a certain interval to maintain that accuracy. I find it very user friendly but maintaining any level of accuracy reduces DPS which is a problem sometimes. That's when other weapons are handy. |
Kinyuhk Goluhh
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2015.03.22 05:27:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:I have lvl 5 everything for the Cr, the damn thing is basically a laser pointer that does over 100+ DMG a burst at that point. If you don't put in the work expect to get less.
I didn't realise Minmatar warriors are born with max stats for using this crap right off the back! Please, direct me to your steroid stash, wtf would low ranks do if they only had the choice of either of those? nothing. We'd be extinct because we were dumb enough to make guns we can't even use!
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.03.22 06:17:00 -
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Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:I have lvl 5 everything for the Cr, the damn thing is basically a laser pointer that does over 100+ DMG a burst at that point. If you don't put in the work expect to get less. I didn't realise Minmatar soldiers are born with max stats for using this crap right off the back! Please, direct me to your steroid stash, wtf would low ranks do if they only had the choice of either of those since they ARE our races signature weapon? nothing. We'd be extinct because we were dumb enough to make guns we can't even use!
A similar thing can be said about most weapons. At no SP, most weapons are pretty crappy.
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7 Djin
The Hundred Acre Hood
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Posted - 2015.03.22 10:55:00 -
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Phew worried this was a nerf thread. |
Francois Sanchez
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2015.03.22 10:57:00 -
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Personally the only thing I would change about those weapons is the ACR spread when aiming. At 45 meters you still have max efficiency, but half the bullets miss the target because of the spread so all the other guns get better damage at that range (even the AR that loses a part of its damage per round, but at least those rounds are hitting) whereas it's supposed to be the range where the ACR has the highest DPS (putting OP things like ScR aside) |
Velvet Overkill
SI6MA Learning Alliance
155
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Posted - 2015.03.22 23:15:00 -
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Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote:The Assault Combat Rifle has terrible recoil and the Combat Rifle has terrible damage. I tested these two over and over comparing it to the Assault Rifle and chose in favor of it instead.
The ACR has just a tiny bit less accuracy than the AR but there's so much recoil that 90% of the entire clip hits everything! except what you're trying to hit! even if it's near point blank range, so close you can freakin' smell alien breathe! The hip fire is even worse, I predict you'd have to have level 5 skill just to have a use for it. I tested with level 2, 10% less gun kick and it's like that.
The CR reminds me of an M16 with the scope and 3 round burst and seems pretty accurate except it isn't even enough to make anyone flinch with that pitiful damage! It's the same here! A tiny bit less damage than the AR but still that weak!
CCP! You lie to me with the ACR's accuracy rating and CR's damage rating!
If you were shooting at Caldari and Minmatar shield tanked suits, the low damage you were experiencing was probably 'cause of it's damage profile. The combat rifle has a projectile damage profile, so it does 15% less damage against shields, but 15% more towards armor.
Also, the accuracy rating is a misleading stat that does not describe how accuracy of weapons.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7707
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Posted - 2015.03.23 05:09:00 -
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The accuracy rating doesn't mean much. It amounts to pretty much identical effect on all weapons. The modifier is recoil and dispersion.
Further, in my experience, even with the wild variation between shields and armor the combat rifle lineup has the best overall performance because of base damage, rage, magazine count, etc.
The difference between a combat rifle at level 1, and a combat rifle with proficiency 3 and sharpshooter 3 is like night and day in a way that makes the no skill weapon feel like It is inherently flawed.
If you are used to AR 5, RR 5 or any other weapon to 5 the combat rifles will absolutely play like pieces of utter sh*t.
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Boot Booter
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2015.03.23 08:47:00 -
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They just take some getting used to. I have both the AR and CR maxed out as well as min assault and gal assault level 5. I think the weapons are pretty balanced and I actually prefer the performance of them when matched with their respective racial suit. The AR is just easier to use.
Tips. Fire the ACR in bursts unless you really need to go full auto. When using the CR think about placing each burst. If used with precision, it's a devastating weapon. However if you try to just spam bursts rapidly the weird, almost random, side to side kick will cause you to miss hitting all three rounds on your target. I guess this is why you feel it is weak. |
Banjo Robertson
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
493
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Posted - 2015.03.23 14:24:00 -
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Dont believe any minmitar, they are the king of complainers! Gallente haven't complained half as well as minmitar otherwise our assault suit would be buffed up too!
CR is a beast, ACR i dunno it feels kinda weak but its still pretty good. The propeganda is a lie! |
Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
362
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Posted - 2015.03.23 16:22:00 -
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Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote:The Assault Combat Rifle has terrible recoil and the Combat Rifle has terrible damage. I tested these two over and over comparing it to the Assault Rifle and chose in favor of it instead.
The ACR has just a tiny bit less accuracy than the AR but there's so much recoil that 90% of the entire clip hits everything! except what you're trying to hit! even if it's near point blank range, so close you can freakin' smell alien breathe! The hip fire is even worse, I predict you'd have to have level 5 skill just to have a use for it. I tested with level 2, 10% less gun kick and it's like that.
The CR reminds me of an M16 with the scope and 3 round burst and seems pretty accurate except it isn't even enough to make anyone flinch with that pitiful damage! It's the same here! A tiny bit less damage than the AR but still that weak!
CCP! You lie to me with the ACR's accuracy rating and CR's damage rating! Trolololool
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
362
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Posted - 2015.03.23 16:25:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:The accuracy rating doesn't mean much. It amounts to pretty much identical effect on all weapons. The modifier is recoil and dispersion.
Further, in my experience, even with the wild variation between shields and armor the combat rifle lineup has the best overall performance because of base damage, rage, magazine count, etc.
The difference between a combat rifle at level 1, and a combat rifle with proficiency 3 and sharpshooter 3 is like night and day in a way that makes the no skill weapon feel like It is inherently flawed.
If you are used to AR 5, RR 5 or any other weapon to 5 the combat rifles will absolutely play like pieces of utter sh*t. After about 50 million sp I stopped using guns till I had them specced to 5 ..now I have all the guns so it's hard to remember how terrible they are with 0 sp invested
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Kinyuhk Goluhh
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2015.03.23 23:41:00 -
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Retested the guns, went berzerk and wrecked 23 people with the ACR(my highest yet) but the hip fire is still innacurate as f**k. All 68 rounds and 3/5 times the enemy kept living with a sliver of hp from point blank range.
I still stand by what I said of the CR, it's weak as ****.
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-Fix matchmaking please-
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DR DEESE NUTS
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2015.03.24 00:31:00 -
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