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Edau Skir2
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.03.21 00:32:00 -
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When the effing hell is this going to be fixed? I am sick and tired of having it happen.
And no, Spawning on a different uplink is not an option, because you can guarantee that players from corps like Mithril Forge, Neg-Feed and Gallicus will be camping them. The only viable spawn point in any game atm is the MCC, but yet again, Neg-Feed made that seem like a gamble.
So, I propose that players spawning in should be able to inflict damage IMMEDIATELY, and not be able to be damaged until a couple of seconds have passed, NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND LIKE IT IS ATM.
Having an entire game of the only other two MCRUs in the game constantly spammed with RE's is not my idea of fair.
And before anyone says "Working as intended" take that weak ass reply elsewhere, adults are talking.
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
704
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Posted - 2015.03.21 01:11:00 -
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Just dont spawn there if its being camped. Seriously thats the right answer. Call out the bad spawn to your squad. Example - "That alpha link is fukkery" Spawn somewhere else and drop your own links. Drop a outer entry link then one closer to a letter. Then check your links from time to time. Reset them if they're bad for whatever reason.
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
5004
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Posted - 2015.03.21 01:25:00 -
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Spawn camping is in every game.. Spawn camping sucks, sometimes it's bad luck other times it's your stupidity for spawning on something that's been hacked..and a lot of players in Dom would rather camp than try to win.
Blah blah back to hardline
Also you can't be damaged for a few seconds and can put of damage.. How to bypass that? Melee,NK,Nade,RE's all bypass the spawn protection
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Cypher Nil
Fireteam Tempest
89
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Posted - 2015.03.21 01:51:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:When the effing hell is this going to be fixed? I am sick and tired of having it happen.
And no, Spawning on a different uplink is not an option, because you can guarantee that players from corps like Mithril Forge, Neg-Feed and Gallicus will be camping them. The only viable spawn point in any game atm is the MCC, but yet again, Neg-Feed made that seem like a gamble.
So, I propose that players spawning in should be able to inflict damage IMMEDIATELY, and not be able to be damaged until a couple of seconds have passed, NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND LIKE IT IS ATM.
Having an entire game of the only other two MCRUs in the game constantly spammed with RE's is not my idea of fair.
And before anyone says "Working as intended" take that weak ass reply elsewhere, adults are talking.
The solution would be to stick a micro radar sensor on each spawn so you know if enemys are nearby but then you have a load of sensors everywhere and no way to steal hack clone "bakeries"
+20 Million SP Merc
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Boot Booter
Titans of Phoenix
1204
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Posted - 2015.03.21 02:01:00 -
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This is new eden. The objective is to win and part of that is killing clones. I will always camp a cru or a link if I think it will help my team win, period. It's not my fault people are stupid enough to spawn there. Think of it as punishment for putting down bad links or not looking for fellow blues around a cru. Hell, CCP even gave Crus a scan precision so you can see enemies around them.
In summary, your fault.
On a side note, sometimes ambush spawns are broken and it's sad to see these spots get camped. I disagree with that as it is not in the players control. |
Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles.
2709
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Posted - 2015.03.21 02:03:00 -
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Camping is an integral part of life. It is a legitimate tactic. It's the first tactic you learn in the boy scouts. Great things can be achieved through those who wait from an unfair advantage.
"The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire."
Book of Exiles 1:3
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Edau Skir2
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
842
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Posted - 2015.03.21 02:27:00 -
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All you who just defended spawn camping after clearly not reading the op, leave this thread, this forum, this game, and go back to CoD where camping is apparently a "valid tactic"
The rest of you, I'm more annoyed with the long ass haul from the MCC because I can plainly see every other spawn point is camped. Ofc, in these cases, the team is redlined. Which usually means, game over, don't bother playing, but for the love of god don't quit otherwise you're only spiting yourself out of isk.
And as for these spawn protection bypasses? Remove it. Flat out get rid of that. NOTHING should be able to damage you in that time period.
As I and many, MANY, other people have stated, this isn't CoD. Get rid of these base, cheap tactics once and for all. It's hard to take a game seriously when the company doesn't want to fix the simplest and most obvious of issues.
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
705
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Posted - 2015.03.21 02:49:00 -
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So instead of trying to help you out of a spawn camp situation my post came across as me defending spawn camping? Hmmm. That's strange and unintended.
No Skill Required
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Edau Skir2
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
842
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Posted - 2015.03.21 03:00:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:So instead of trying to help you out of a spawn camp situation my post came across as me defending spawn camping? Hmmm. That's strange and unintended. ....read it again. There are two parts.
Hint; The part referring to replies who weren't defending begins with "The rest of you"
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Boot Booter
Titans of Phoenix
1206
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Posted - 2015.03.21 03:06:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:All you who just defended spawn camping after clearly not reading the op, leave this thread, this forum, this game, and go back to CoD where camping is apparently a "valid tactic"
The rest of you, I'm more annoyed with the long ass haul from the MCC because I can plainly see every other spawn point is camped. Ofc, in these cases, the team is redlined. Which usually means, game over, don't bother playing, but for the love of god don't quit otherwise you're only spiting yourself out of isk.
And as for these spawn protection bypasses? Remove it. Flat out get rid of that. NOTHING should be able to damage you in that time period.
As I and many, MANY, other people have stated, this isn't CoD. Get rid of these base, cheap tactics once and for all. It's hard to take a game seriously when the company doesn't want to fix the simplest and most obvious of issues.
First off I hate people who say go back to cod. I've been playing dust for over two years, you go back to cod noob. Your OP was garbage, you didn't put forth any constructive arguments, just accused random corps of spawn camping, and suggested a completely unrealistic solution. Great let people who just spawned damage everyone else and be invincible. Cleary you've never played this game in a truly compettitive atmosphere. Let me give you a hint... Heavies.
So I'll tell you again. You spawn where you choose to and if it's being camped, you die. If you die, you lose. If you lose, I win. Therefore it's a legitimate tactic. I hope to camp your spawn soon scrub. Now be good and let this thread die, adults are talking. |
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Edau Skir2
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
842
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Posted - 2015.03.21 03:14:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:Edau Skir2 wrote:All you who just defended spawn camping after clearly not reading the op, leave this thread, this forum, this game, and go back to CoD where camping is apparently a "valid tactic"
The rest of you, I'm more annoyed with the long ass haul from the MCC because I can plainly see every other spawn point is camped. Ofc, in these cases, the team is redlined. Which usually means, game over, don't bother playing, but for the love of god don't quit otherwise you're only spiting yourself out of isk.
And as for these spawn protection bypasses? Remove it. Flat out get rid of that. NOTHING should be able to damage you in that time period.
As I and many, MANY, other people have stated, this isn't CoD. Get rid of these base, cheap tactics once and for all. It's hard to take a game seriously when the company doesn't want to fix the simplest and most obvious of issues. First off I hate people who say go back to cod. I've been playing dust for over two years, you go back to cod noob. Your OP was garbage, you didn't put forth any constructive arguments, just accused random corps of spawn camping, and suggested a completely unrealistic solution. Great let people who just spawned damage everyone else and be invincible. Cleary you've never played this game in a truly compettitive atmosphere. Let me give you a hint... Heavies. So I'll tell you again. You spawn where you choose to and if it's being camped, you die. If you die, you lose. If you lose, I win. Therefore it's a legitimate tactic. I hope to camp your spawn soon scrub. Now be good and let this thread die, adults are talking. So after laughing my ass off at this shitpost, I decided to construct a reply.
You say I accused "Random" corps. Well, I've been spawn camped multiple times by two of them, and I was actually in Mithril Forge before I got kicked for persistently destroying uplinks they were camping. You = idiot.
You say I don't play competitive, ergo, that I only ever play Pubs. Again, you are wrong. I play FW all the time, to win, not to troll. Spawn camping is never a tactic of mine, and still a tactic I put a stop to as often as possible, and my team wins plenty of times. You = Bigger idiot.
"I spawn where I choose to" How many times have I mentioned the MCC being the only viable spawn option? Most people with at least two brain cells would assume that, wait for it....
....THATS WHERE I'M SPAWNING.
In summary, you're an EXTREMELY moronic tool. So please, go play the "easy games" where you can play your "valid" tactic, and let the actual adults do the talking.
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Boot Booter
Titans of Phoenix
1206
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Posted - 2015.03.21 03:16:00 -
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^ I stopped reading when you said FW, sorry. |
Timtron Victory
Horizons' Edge
449
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Posted - 2015.03.21 03:17:00 -
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You know something very sad, if you try to shut up someone who has a complaint about this game, and they leave, well you can't play by yourself........... You say you kill them and you win? If they leave and the game it scrapped, you ultimately lose. Oh well
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CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
497
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Posted - 2015.03.21 03:17:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:So instead of trying to help you out of a spawn camp situation my post came across as me defending spawn camping? Hmmm. That's strange and unintended.
LOL, Ahkhomi, just shrug it off. Your post was clearly understood by me as good Dust-combat advice, not as defending spawning. ButGǪ "a good dead never goes unpunished"GǪ
I just listened to Rattati express a point of view that I like and agree with. All fps games at their core have an "expectancy" that you will be killed regularly, that the risk is always there no matter what your gun-unlock level. Dust is simply a more brutal level of that expectancy, where you're regularity of deaths is simply much higher than other fps titles treat their players.
Yes, spawning is a strategy and staple in nearly any fps (other fps games even encounter a rudimentary form of Redlining). But I would also give Dust credit, by suggesting that the problem you're describing has ALREADY been "fixed" as far as a merciless game liked Dust will ever go: Dust has MINIMIZED it.
It (and Redlining) hasn't gone away, and maybe shouldn't go completely. If you don't want to alienate classic fps players completely, you need to allow them some access to the habits and strategies they've grown up with.
The reason I suggest it has been minimized is because, as Ahkhomi hinted, camping is now only a consequence of OUR team's mistakes. When we don't do those things that help avoid picking an uplink that shows signs of being overrun, and when we have an uplink carrier who isn't quite compitent enough to place in ways/times that hardly get camped,GǪ our team has caused the camping. And in Dust, well,GǪ it's what we kind of deserve.
And in Dust, we can't expect a lot of help correcting catastrophes that WE cause during the fight. I kind of make the same argument for Redlining in this game. I may be a rubbish-poor gunslinger in this game (Zero point three four KDR), but I don't get redlined anymore, and I seldom step into an uplink-camp. Sometimes, but happily few.
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Edau Skir2
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
842
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Posted - 2015.03.21 03:18:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:^ I stopped reading when you said FW, sorry. Hmm, Titans of Phoenix. Where have I seen that name? Oh I know, MinFW. Otherwise known as, EASY MODE.
Like I said, adults are talking.
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Edau Skir2
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
842
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Posted - 2015.03.21 03:20:00 -
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CELESTA AUNGM wrote:Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:So instead of trying to help you out of a spawn camp situation my post came across as me defending spawn camping? Hmmm. That's strange and unintended. LOL, Ahkhomi, just shrug it off. Your post was clearly understood by me as good Dust-combat advice, not as defending spawning. ButGǪ "a good dead never goes unpunished"GǪ I just listened to Rattati express a point of view that I like and agree with. All fps games at their core have an "expectancy" that you will be killed regularly, that the risk is always there no matter what your gun-unlock level. Dust is simply a more brutal level of that expectancy, where you're regularity of deaths is simply much higher than other fps titles treat their players. Yes, spawning is a strategy and staple in nearly any fps (other fps games even encounter a rudimentary form of Redlining). But I would also give Dust credit, by suggesting that the problem you're describing has ALREADY been "fixed" as far as a merciless game liked Dust will ever go: Dust has MINIMIZED it. It (and Redlining) hasn't gone away, and maybe shouldn't go completely. If you don't want to alienate classic fps players completely, you need to allow them some access to the habits and strategies they've grown up with. The reason I suggest it has been minimized is because, as Ahkhomi hinted, camping is now only a consequence of OUR team's mistakes. When we don't do those things that help avoid picking an uplink that shows signs of being overrun, and when we have an uplink carrier who isn't quite compitent enough to place in ways/times that hardly get camped,GǪ our team has caused the camping. And in Dust, well,GǪ it's what we kind of deserve. And in Dust, we can't expect a lot of help correcting catastrophes that WE cause during the fight. I kind of make the same argument for Redlining in this game. I may be a rubbish-poor gunslinger in this game (Zero point three four KDR), but I don't get redlined anymore, and I seldom step into an uplink-camp. Sometimes, but happily few. -Facepalm- You, just like Ahkhomi, misunderstood my second post.
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Boot Booter
Titans of Phoenix
1206
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Posted - 2015.03.21 03:24:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:Boot Booter wrote:^ I stopped reading when you said FW, sorry. Hmm, Titans of Phoenix. Where have I seen that name? Oh I know, MinFW. Otherwise known as, EASY MODE. Like I said, adults are talking.
LOL. Yeah we only fight for minmatar. Actually the Corp was made to fight the Amarr. |
Edau Skir2
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
842
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Posted - 2015.03.21 03:26:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:Edau Skir2 wrote:Boot Booter wrote:^ I stopped reading when you said FW, sorry. Hmm, Titans of Phoenix. Where have I seen that name? Oh I know, MinFW. Otherwise known as, EASY MODE. Like I said, adults are talking. LOL. Yeah we only fight for minmatar. Actually the Corp was made to fight the Amarr. To fight the Amarr.....which only one race does.....which I already mentioned.
Forum troll is terrible at their job.
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
706
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Posted - 2015.03.21 03:29:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote: ....read it again. There are two parts.
Hint; The part referring to replies who weren't defending begins with "The rest of you"
Oh, my bad. It appears as though I've goofed. Apologies where appropriate. But for real though if you know something is getting camped don't spawn there. That redline MCC walk of shame sucks but sometimes you just gotta do it. meh. Dust life.
With that spawn immunity thing tho. That can be a double edged sword. What if somebody is trying to hack a letter/cru and a sentinel spawns in. Would it be fair for the sentinel to have immunity in that situation?
No Skill Required
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Edau Skir2
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
842
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Posted - 2015.03.21 03:32:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Edau Skir2 wrote: ....read it again. There are two parts.
Hint; The part referring to replies who weren't defending begins with "The rest of you"
Oh, my bad. It appears as though I've goofed. Apologies where appropriate. But for real though if you know something is getting camped don't spawn there. That redline MCC walk of shame sucks but sometimes you just gotta do it. meh. Dust life. With that spawn immunity thing tho. That can be a double edged sword. What if somebody is trying to hack a letter/cru and a sentinel spawns in. Would it be fair for the sentinel to have immunity in that situation? You raise a good point. Maybe they tweak it so that MCRU's and Letters grant a lessened (if any) time period for said invulnerability, or they just remove the workaround e.g. REs, Nova Knives etc, so that the spawning player has a fair chance of fighting their camper back.
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tal mrak-thanl
Aethan Dor
271
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Posted - 2015.03.21 03:45:00 -
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Edaubro, take it easy on your fellow forum warriors. Most people don't posses particularly keen concepts of morality or fairness, and it's not really fair to expect them to. We live in a monetized global society that promotes self centered behavior, and encourages the exploitation of weakness. You aren't going to improve this, or any institution with alienating words. The people who camp spawns are exactly the ones you should address in this thread, and you should do so with decorum, in hopes that your point will become relatable. If even one person makes the decision to stop camping spawns, then you will be rewarded with measurable success. If enough people can be brought to agree with you, you may even accomplish a large scale change to the mechanic that causes you so much strife. |
Mobius Wyvern
Sky-FIRE
5853
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Posted - 2015.03.21 03:51:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:All you who just defended spawn camping after clearly not reading the op, leave this thread, this forum, this game, and go back to CoD where camping is apparently a "valid tactic"
The rest of you, I'm more annoyed with the long ass haul from the MCC because I can plainly see every other spawn point is camped. Ofc, in these cases, the team is redlined. Which usually means, game over, don't bother playing, but for the love of god don't quit otherwise you're only spiting yourself out of isk.
And as for these spawn protection bypasses? Remove it. Flat out get rid of that. NOTHING should be able to damage you in that time period.
As I and many, MANY, other people have stated, this isn't CoD. Get rid of these base, cheap tactics once and for all. It's hard to take a game seriously when the company doesn't want to fix the simplest and most obvious of issues. You haven't addressed what any of -us- have been saying.
Drop. Your. Own. Damn. Uplink.
If people are camping all the ones other people are dropping, use some of your own.
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Posted - 2015.03.21 06:56:00 -
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That would actually be really stupid, making it that when you spawn you can shoot them but they can't shoot back. I would just make it so aim assist doesn't track someone who just spawned and maybe that the person who just spawned has that fabled couple seconds of invincibility until they shoot or move (right now you can plc or remote them out of that invincibility for some reason)
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Blauhelme E.B.O.L.A.
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Posted - 2015.03.21 07:23:00 -
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WHOA DUDE! There is no fixing a spawn camp. How else am I to prove to the community that I'm good?????????
Standing on a red CRU fighting my teammates for a +50 is a lot of work, my man...
And for old-time sake... Image a DUST 514 where you would be taking damage and dead before your screen faded in from black? That was true spawn camping at it's worst
Pubs are those pesky things that we need to get our SP.
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
2914
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Posted - 2015.03.21 07:43:00 -
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Well...
I do agree with you, spawn camping is a **** move and they should feel bad about circlejerking on poor newbs. Will they feel bad? No...
However, I am also one to say don't spawn there, and to drop uplinks somewhere else. Sorry man.
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
2309
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Posted - 2015.03.21 08:33:00 -
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yes you can get spawn camped in dust but if your a vet with some amount of common sense it should rarely happen. instead of mashing x when you die take some time in the spawn screen to survey the situation. if you see a blue uplink right next to a red letter with the bluedots disappearing it means that area is over run and chances are you will be camped. the MCC is a great place to spawn when your team is getting destroyed because it allows me to get in my ADS with some of my own uplinks and place them with some intelligence. but spawn camping is the root of a deeper problem and that is simple your team is getting destroyed and over run and no amount of greatly placed uplinks is going to change the mindless nubs that cant kill anything from being spawn camped.
KEQ diplomat. CBM
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Edau Skir2
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
848
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Posted - 2015.03.21 11:03:00 -
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I do like how a lot of these replies are telling me to either drop my own uplinks or "not spawn there"
I'll say it again, I spawn at the MCC when these camps happen. It's the haul back that irritates me. Because of base, noob tactics, I'm now the frikkin marathon man. Least I can guarantee my raider missions will be done
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game RUST415
477
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Posted - 2015.03.21 11:13:00 -
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When someone spawns in an uplink I am about to destroy, he's invincible and all my shots are wasted if I try to kill him. But when I spawn on an uplink that's beeing camped, I always get instakilled without having enough time to move a finger! How is that even possible? I can't shoot fresh spawned people but they can shoot me when I spawn!? :o
Fix the game before trying to add anything else.
(Hint: hit detection, lags, glitches,.. you've got some work :) )
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Colossus of Sardia
Mithril Forge E-R-A
27
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Posted - 2015.03.21 11:16:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:When someone spawns in an uplink I am about to destroy, he's invincible and all my shots are wasted if I try to kill him. But when I spawn on an uplink that's beeing camped, I always get instakilled without having enough time to move a finger! How is that even possible? I can't shoot fresh spawned people but they can shoot me when I spawn!? :o
happens to me all the time too >:[ |
H0riz0n Unlimit
Dead Man's Game
534
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Posted - 2015.03.21 11:17:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:When the effing hell is this going to be fixed? I am sick and tired of having it happen.
And no, Spawning on a different uplink is not an option, because you can guarantee that players from corps like Mithril Forge, Neg-Feed and Gallicus will be camping them. The only viable spawn point in any game atm is the MCC, but yet again, Neg-Feed made that seem like a gamble.
So, I propose that players spawning in should be able to inflict damage IMMEDIATELY, and not be able to be damaged until a couple of seconds have passed, NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND LIKE IT IS ATM.
Having an entire game of the only other two MCRUs in the game constantly spammed with RE's is not my idea of fair.
And before anyone says "Working as intended" take that weak ass reply elsewhere, adults are talking. You are talking about 3 different corps that have a lot of LOLplayers. The first one own a district to farm isk( anyone who attack them send me a mail, i will ring for free or pay for ring), N-F has got a lot of vets and some guys that ruins the idea of that corp( rafa lolbros), prima gallicus think that every pub game is a PC, perma scans and proto all day , when you say they are camping the answer is they were defending something. As nothing will change make treasure of your experience and avoid these tactics as long as you can
Alt of The KTM(FOTM) DuKe. 34 milion SP in vehicles//59 milion SP in infantry. Pagl1u M is not my director
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Regnier Feros
Pielords
257
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Posted - 2015.03.21 12:01:00 -
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Uplinks ftw
"You're like a she-male.. hates gym, doesn't know how to be alpha.. you'll stay in the friendzone for life" -Senpai
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
Warpoint Sharx
309
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Posted - 2015.03.21 12:09:00 -
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There is not an issue with spawn camping.
- Join a squad and let people call it out when spawns are camped.
- Join a squad with a logi that can keep a viable number of uplinks out so that the enemy has no choice but to pop uplinks.
- Pay attention to the deployment map before you spawn. If there are blues dying there it is camped. If there is not a blue anywhere near it there is a chance it is being camped.
Basically if you pay just a little bit of attention and / or run in a squad spawn camping is not very likely to be something that causes your death. |
Edau Skir2
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
848
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Posted - 2015.03.21 13:54:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:I do like how a lot of these replies are telling me to either drop my own uplinks or "not spawn there"
I'll say it again, I spawn at the MCC when these camps happen. It's the haul back that irritates me. Because of base, noob tactics, I'm now the frikkin marathon man. Least I can guarantee my raider missions will be done ^
Is anyone actually reading anything I post?
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tal mrak-thanl
Aethan Dor
272
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Posted - 2015.03.21 13:59:00 -
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Lol, have you tried paying attention to the overhead map and dropping your own uplinks?
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
Warpoint Sharx
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Posted - 2015.03.21 14:01:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:Edau Skir2 wrote:I do like how a lot of these replies are telling me to either drop my own uplinks or "not spawn there"
I'll say it again, I spawn at the MCC when these camps happen. It's the haul back that irritates me. Because of base, noob tactics, I'm now the frikkin marathon man. Least I can guarantee my raider missions will be done ^ Is anyone actually reading anything I post?
Yea but it seems like you just keep saying "CCP GIB ME E-Z MODE"
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Edau Skir2
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
848
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Posted - 2015.03.21 14:06:00 -
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Tal, I swear you're trolling me
And LOOKMOM, not exactly. Only one other person actually pointed out a flaw, and alternate suggestions were made.
You're just repeating what everyone else already said, despite my NUMEROUS attempts to get you to read my posts properly
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
2916
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Posted - 2015.03.21 14:07:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:Edau Skir2 wrote:I do like how a lot of these replies are telling me to either drop my own uplinks or "not spawn there"
I'll say it again, I spawn at the MCC when these camps happen. It's the haul back that irritates me. Because of base, noob tactics, I'm now the frikkin marathon man. Least I can guarantee my raider missions will be done ^ Is anyone actually reading anything I post? Uplinks. Drop your own, its been stated a few times.
Plasma Cannon :3
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
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Posted - 2015.03.21 15:33:00 -
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Having a scout suit would make that walk easier. You could even cloak up and get out that way if the enemy team is camping the redline. You also get the option to fit uplinks in the other equipment slot.
No Skill Required
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
707
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Posted - 2015.03.21 15:35:00 -
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-Continued-
So you can drop them
No Skill Required
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Nos Nothi
4468
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Posted - 2015.03.21 15:50:00 -
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didn't read OP, it's fun to do in a triple blaster Madrugar at twenty metres
especially when that one guy spawns four times in a row with a forge gun because for some reason things will be different this time!?
Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'.
And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7696
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Posted - 2015.03.21 15:50:00 -
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This whole thread is a badposting extravaganza.
I need more popcorn.
AV
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Edau Skir2
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
849
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Posted - 2015.03.21 15:51:00 -
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I honest to god give up.
You are all repeating the same thing over and bloody over. For the last effing time, I AM DROPPING MY OWN GOD DAMN UPLINKS.
MY POINT IS THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO RUN FROM THE MCC EVERYTIME WE SPAWN BECAUSE SOME BIGCORP DOUCHEBAG THINKS SPAWN CAMPING MAKES HIM GOOD
Clear enough now? No, probably not, you forum trolls will still say the same thing. You're probably not even stupid, just acting like it.
Logistics mk.0 / Logibro's Modified Logistics mk.0
Scout gk.0/ Scotsman's Modified Scout gk.0
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Yeeeuuuupppp
920
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Posted - 2015.03.21 15:52:00 -
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Working as intended.
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
Warpoint Sharx
310
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Posted - 2015.03.21 15:57:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:I honest to god give up.
You are all repeating the same thing over and bloody over. For the last effing time, I AM DROPPING MY OWN GOD DAMN UPLINKS.
MY POINT IS THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO RUN FROM THE MCC EVERYTIME WE SPAWN BECAUSE SOME BIGCORP DOUCHEBAG THINKS SPAWN CAMPING MAKES HIM GOOD
Clear enough now? No, probably not, you forum trolls will still say the same thing. You're probably not even stupid, just acting like it.
Maybe some of your problem could be solved by informing new players about how bandwidth works and about proper uplink deployment. More uplinks on the field equals less benefit to spawn camping plain and simple.
You would probably get farther rallying for teaching new players how a slightly over complicated mechanic works than trying to introduce a new mechanic that will probably just lead to more issues.
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Edau Skir2
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
851
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Posted - 2015.03.21 16:03:00 -
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:
Oh and bring your own uplinks since newbies can not figure out how to use them. Sorry I had to do it.
I hate you so hard right now
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Nos Nothi
4468
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Posted - 2015.03.21 16:06:00 -
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Well, I read OP, and...
Edau Skir2 wrote:Like I said, adults are talking.
first off, apparently you ain't one.
But, I will entertain your assertions with a response.
So. You suggest that spawn-camping is bad - why, exactly? Because you're too damn lazy to lay Uplinks in such a way or a place as they're difficult or impossible to camp? Because you're too damn lazy to walk from the MCC and set a new one? Because you're too damn lazy to actually kill the guy after you spawn? I mean, the odds of all your spawn points being camped are basically nil (unless you're playing Domination, I guess, in which case HTFU and spawn from the MCC which happens to be right next-door?)
You already have several seconds of grace, and it's quite uncommon that those bypasses are employed - grenades are unreliable against Uplinks for whatever reason, melee either deals pathetic damage or is present in incredibly fragile suits (which you should just shoot), and no-one uses NKs anyway, and when they do they've the same caveat as melee. DU are easy to place now that you have five in your inventory - no excuse not to have them anymore - and CRUs are beyond terribad (I assume you meant those and not actual MCRUs, considering that REs on the MCRU will also destroy the vehicle to which they're attached).
Try not being garbage at DUST, and maybe you won't be camped.
See, your solution is the stupidest fxcking thing I've ever heard, especially since you can still glitch uplinks with alarming frequency.
Congratulations, you now can gib people while you're invisible and invincible, all while in LoS of the hack console!
Quote:To fight the Amarr.....which only one race does.....which I already mentioned. and wow, not only are you a complete and utter hypocrite, you also pretend you're taking FW seriously while abusing the people who actually take it seriously.
Quote:I do like how a lot of these replies are telling me to either drop my own uplinks or "not spawn there"
I'll say it again, I spawn at the MCC when these camps happen. It's the haul back that irritates me. Because of base, noob tactics, I'm now the frikkin marathon man. Least I can guarantee my raider missions will be done
Quote:You're just repeating what everyone else already said, despite my NUMEROUS attempts to get you to read my posts properly
So I just quoted the text to prove I read it - I can even chop it apart for you. We are in fact telling you to drop your own uplinks or to not spawn on camped ones. I think it's you who's not paying attention - do you know why you need to spawn at the MCC?
BECAUSE YOU WERE TOO DAMN LAZY TO DROP YOUR OWN DAMN UPLINKS.
I swear, I'm seeing a rash of new forum warriors who yell as loud as Spkr and Taka but don't even have the justification of being decent at this game! (why yes, I am comfortable in making this judgement without playing with or against you, or even seeing your stats - know why? OP, that's why.)
Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'.
And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Nos Nothi
4468
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Posted - 2015.03.21 16:09:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:I honest to god give up.
You are all repeating the same thing over and bloody over. For the last effing time, I AM DROPPING MY OWN GOD DAMN UPLINKS.
MY POINT IS THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO RUN FROM THE MCC EVERYTIME WE SPAWN BECAUSE SOME BIGCORP DOUCHEBAG THINKS SPAWN CAMPING MAKES HIM GOOD
Clear enough now? No, probably not, you forum trolls will still say the same thing. You're probably not even stupid, just acting like it. Bigcorpdouchebag knows for a fact spawn camping doesn't make him good. What he knows is that it makes him money.
And see, you say you drop your own damn uplinks, but in the next sentence you say you have to run from the MCC.
So... which one is it?
I suppose it could be both, but then you're really just admitting you're terrible at this rather straight-forward game, aren't you?
Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'.
And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
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Zepod
Titans of Phoenix
110
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Posted - 2015.03.21 16:14:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:Boot Booter wrote:Edau Skir2 wrote:Boot Booter wrote:^ I stopped reading when you said FW, sorry. Hmm, Titans of Phoenix. Where have I seen that name? Oh I know, MinFW. Otherwise known as, EASY MODE. Like I said, adults are talking. LOL. Yeah we only fight for minmatar. Actually the Corp was made to fight the Amarr. To fight the Amarr.....which only one race does.....which I already mentioned. Forum troll is terrible at their job. Confirming that the vast majority of ToP leadership fights for the Amarr.
Also confirming that you are a dumbass.
You may not like what I said, but it's true.
It might anger or offend you, but it's still true.
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Edau Skir2
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
853
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Posted - 2015.03.21 18:32:00 -
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Lorhak, you are the most ignorant tosser in this entire topic. Assumption after assumption after assumption.
Let's just leave it at this, I know what I do when I play, only Lugmos in this thread knows what I do, as he's the only person here to have squadded with me.
Lorhak, as you have never squadded with me, you will have not the slightest idea of how I play, in any mode in pubs or fw. So please, shut your ridiculously moronic mouth and stop making unfounded assumptions about something you know absolutely nothing about.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
3257
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Posted - 2015.03.21 19:22:00 -
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Flux the uplinks and hack the CRU`s. If its your team being camped then flank from the starting line, it sucks but doing nothing to change the situation yourself is part of the problem.
Run with uplinks all the way down the far edges, if you dont have uplinks, keep running and hack a CRU. This is one of the reasons I love to fit speed mods.
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DDx77
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2015.03.21 19:29:00 -
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Everybody hates being spawn camped
What people are saying to you is true though, you have to anticipate and avoid the trap
Invincibility is not the answer because why would you spawn in an area if you had a suspicion it was being camped?
Perhaps they could increase the passive scans a bit but I think it's fine as is
Your biggest weakness when spawning in is your orientation, maybe as the spawn timer counts down you could already be in first person?
You cannot ask a game that runs on the ps3 and looks like it's on the ps2 to fix a problem that most fps -including next gen- have
May the Dark shine your way
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Archduke Ferd1nand
Nos Nothi
267
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Posted - 2015.03.21 19:44:00 -
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QQ negative feedback QQ
QQ i want to ruin spawn mechanics cause I'm butthurt that something that exists in every other game in the world exists in DUST QQ
Tell me, if you could kill me before I was able to do a single damage to you simply by choosing to spawn on a link I want to remove, why is that any different than it being the other way around, except better?
We have scans on links/CRU's now, git gud.
BRB, looking for socks
Asslut Rifles OP, anal now
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8213
Blauhelme E.B.O.L.A.
2162
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Posted - 2015.03.22 00:27:00 -
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As far as everythng bad about this game. You literally blame Nyan San for the failure that is this game via their exploits of everything bad....
gg NS gg
Pubs are those pesky things that we need to get our SP.
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
Warpoint Sharx
317
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Posted - 2015.03.22 08:10:00 -
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8213 wrote:As far as everythng bad about this game. You literally blame Nyan San for the failure that is this game via their exploits of everything bad....
gg NS gg
I actually would like to thank NS for exploiting. CCP does not pay attention to things until people are rage quitting over it.
Constantly teetering on the edge of snapping is what keeps people around. That balance of I want to quit but I have spent this money on my character and I have friends here so I will stick in there until it gets fixed is a mix of emotions that no one can fight. If it was not for people exploiting it and causing rage the model would not work. |
Genral69 death
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.03.22 11:15:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:When the effing hell is this going to be fixed? I am sick and tired of having it happen.
And no, Spawning on a different uplink is not an option, because you can guarantee that players from corps like Mithril Forge, Neg-Feed and Gallicus will be camping them. The only viable spawn point in any game atm is the MCC, but yet again, Neg-Feed made that seem like a gamble.
So, I propose that players spawning in should be able to inflict damage IMMEDIATELY, and not be able to be damaged until a couple of seconds have passed, NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND LIKE IT IS ATM.
Having an entire game of the only other two MCRUs in the game constantly spammed with RE's is not my idea of fair.
And before anyone says "Working as intended" take that weak ass reply elsewhere, adults are talking. Unfortualy camping is still possible. As for being shot at instantly, for some reason you can't take damage from light weapons or the hmg for like 2 seconds after spawn. But you can take explosive damage straight awake . Such as PC,md granades and event rail or middle tanks.
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