DUST Search - Spawn Camping

CELESTA AUNGM wrote:

Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:

So instead of trying to help you out of a spawn camp situation my post came across as me defending spawn camping? Hmmm. That's strange and unintended.

LOL, Ahkhomi, just shrug it off. Your post was clearly understood by me as good Dust-combat advice, not as defending spawning. ButGÇª "a good dead never goes unpunished"GÇª

I just listened to Rattati express a point of view that I like and agree with. All fps games at their core have an "expectancy" that you will be killed regularly, that the risk is always there no matter what your gun-unlock level.
Dust is simply a more brutal level of that expectancy, where you're regularity of deaths is simply much higher than other fps titles treat their players.

Yes, spawning is a strategy and staple in nearly any fps (other fps games even encounter a rudimentary form of Redlining). But I would also give Dust credit, by suggesting that the problem you're describing has ALREADY been "fixed" as far as a merciless game liked Dust will ever go: Dust has MINIMIZED it.

It (and Redlining) hasn't gone away, and maybe shouldn't go completely. If you don't want to alienate classic fps players completely, you need to allow them some access to the habits and strategies they've grown up with.

The reason I suggest it has been minimized is because, as Ahkhomi hinted, camping is now only a consequence of OUR team's mistakes. When we don't do those things that help avoid picking an uplink that shows signs of being overrun, and when we have an uplink carrier who isn't quite compitent enough to place in ways/times that hardly get camped,GÇª our team has caused the camping. And in Dust, well,GÇª it's what we kind of deserve.

And in Dust, we can't expect a lot of help correcting catastrophes that WE cause during the fight.
I kind of make the same argument for Redlining in this game.
I may be a rubbish-poor gunslinger in this game (Zero point three four KDR), but I don't get redlined anymore, and I seldom step into an uplink-camp. Sometimes, but happily few.

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Edau Skir2 Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 841	Posted - 2015.03.21 00:32:00 - [1] - Quote When the effing hell is this going to be fixed? I am sick and tired of having it happen. And no, Spawning on a different uplink is not an option, because you can guarantee that players from corps like Mithril Forge, Neg-Feed and Gallicus will be camping them. The only viable spawn point in any game atm is the MCC, but yet again, Neg-Feed made that seem like a gamble. So, I propose that players spawning in should be able to inflict damage IMMEDIATELY, and not be able to be damaged until a couple of seconds have passed, NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND LIKE IT IS ATM. Having an entire game of the only other two MCRUs in the game constantly spammed with RE's is not my idea of fair. And before anyone says "Working as intended" take that weak ass reply elsewhere, adults are talking. Logistics mk.0 / Logibro's Modified Logistics mk.0 Scout gk.0/ Scotsman's Modified Scout gk.0 Commando gk.0
Ahkhomi Cypher Opus Arcana 704	Posted - 2015.03.21 01:11:00 - [2] - Quote Just dont spawn there if its being camped. Seriously thats the right answer. Call out the bad spawn to your squad. Example - "That alpha link is fukkery" Spawn somewhere else and drop your own links. Drop a outer entry link then one closer to a letter. Then check your links from time to time. Reset them if they're bad for whatever reason. No Skill Required
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 5004	Posted - 2015.03.21 01:25:00 - [3] - Quote Spawn camping is in every game.. Spawn camping sucks, sometimes it's bad luck other times it's your stupidity for spawning on something that's been hacked..and a lot of players in Dom would rather camp than try to win. Blah blah back to hardline Also you can't be damaged for a few seconds and can put of damage.. How to bypass that? Melee,NK,Nade,RE's all bypass the spawn protection Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Cypher Nil Fireteam Tempest 89	Posted - 2015.03.21 01:51:00 - [4] - Quote Edau Skir2 wrote: When the effing hell is this going to be fixed? I am sick and tired of having it happen. And no, Spawning on a different uplink is not an option, because you can guarantee that players from corps like Mithril Forge, Neg-Feed and Gallicus will be camping them. The only viable spawn point in any game atm is the MCC, but yet again, Neg-Feed made that seem like a gamble. So, I propose that players spawning in should be able to inflict damage IMMEDIATELY, and not be able to be damaged until a couple of seconds have passed, NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND LIKE IT IS ATM. Having an entire game of the only other two MCRUs in the game constantly spammed with RE's is not my idea of fair. And before anyone says "Working as intended" take that weak ass reply elsewhere, adults are talking. The solution would be to stick a micro radar sensor on each spawn so you know if enemys are nearby but then you have a load of sensors everywhere and no way to steal hack clone "bakeries" +20 Million SP Merc Caldari Loyalist Of course we won, now when do I get paid?
Boot Booter Titans of Phoenix 1204	Posted - 2015.03.21 02:01:00 - [5] - Quote This is new eden. The objective is to win and part of that is killing clones. I will always camp a cru or a link if I think it will help my team win, period. It's not my fault people are stupid enough to spawn there. Think of it as punishment for putting down bad links or not looking for fellow blues around a cru. Hell, CCP even gave Crus a scan precision so you can see enemies around them. In summary, your fault. On a side note, sometimes ambush spawns are broken and it's sad to see these spots get camped. I disagree with that as it is not in the players control.
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles. 2709	Posted - 2015.03.21 02:03:00 - [6] - Quote Camping is an integral part of life. It is a legitimate tactic. It's the first tactic you learn in the boy scouts. Great things can be achieved through those who wait from an unfair advantage. "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
Edau Skir2 Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 842	Posted - 2015.03.21 02:27:00 - [7] - Quote All you who just defended spawn camping after clearly not reading the op, leave this thread, this forum, this game, and go back to CoD where camping is apparently a "valid tactic" The rest of you, I'm more annoyed with the long ass haul from the MCC because I can plainly see every other spawn point is camped. Ofc, in these cases, the team is redlined. Which usually means, game over, don't bother playing, but for the love of god don't quit otherwise you're only spiting yourself out of isk. And as for these spawn protection bypasses? Remove it. Flat out get rid of that. NOTHING should be able to damage you in that time period. As I and many, MANY, other people have stated, this isn't CoD. Get rid of these base, cheap tactics once and for all. It's hard to take a game seriously when the company doesn't want to fix the simplest and most obvious of issues. Logistics mk.0 / Logibro's Modified Logistics mk.0 Scout gk.0/ Scotsman's Modified Scout gk.0 Commando gk.0
Ahkhomi Cypher Opus Arcana 705	Posted - 2015.03.21 02:49:00 - [8] - Quote So instead of trying to help you out of a spawn camp situation my post came across as me defending spawn camping? Hmmm. That's strange and unintended. No Skill Required
Edau Skir2 Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 842	Posted - 2015.03.21 03:00:00 - [9] - Quote Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: So instead of trying to help you out of a spawn camp situation my post came across as me defending spawn camping? Hmmm. That's strange and unintended. ....read it again. There are two parts. Hint; The part referring to replies who weren't defending begins with "The rest of you" Logistics mk.0 / Logibro's Modified Logistics mk.0 Scout gk.0/ Scotsman's Modified Scout gk.0 Commando gk.0
Boot Booter Titans of Phoenix 1206	Posted - 2015.03.21 03:06:00 - [10] - Quote Edau Skir2 wrote: All you who just defended spawn camping after clearly not reading the op, leave this thread, this forum, this game, and go back to CoD where camping is apparently a "valid tactic" The rest of you, I'm more annoyed with the long ass haul from the MCC because I can plainly see every other spawn point is camped. Ofc, in these cases, the team is redlined. Which usually means, game over, don't bother playing, but for the love of god don't quit otherwise you're only spiting yourself out of isk. And as for these spawn protection bypasses? Remove it. Flat out get rid of that. NOTHING should be able to damage you in that time period. As I and many, MANY, other people have stated, this isn't CoD. Get rid of these base, cheap tactics once and for all. It's hard to take a game seriously when the company doesn't want to fix the simplest and most obvious of issues. First off I hate people who say go back to cod. I've been playing dust for over two years, you go back to cod noob. Your OP was garbage, you didn't put forth any constructive arguments, just accused random corps of spawn camping, and suggested a completely unrealistic solution. Great let people who just spawned damage everyone else and be invincible. Cleary you've never played this game in a truly compettitive atmosphere. Let me give you a hint... Heavies. So I'll tell you again. You spawn where you choose to and if it's being camped, you die. If you die, you lose. If you lose, I win. Therefore it's a legitimate tactic. I hope to camp your spawn soon scrub. Now be good and let this thread die, adults are talking.

Edau Skir2 Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 842	Posted - 2015.03.21 03:14:00 - [11] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: Edau Skir2 wrote: All you who just defended spawn camping after clearly not reading the op, leave this thread, this forum, this game, and go back to CoD where camping is apparently a "valid tactic" The rest of you, I'm more annoyed with the long ass haul from the MCC because I can plainly see every other spawn point is camped. Ofc, in these cases, the team is redlined. Which usually means, game over, don't bother playing, but for the love of god don't quit otherwise you're only spiting yourself out of isk. And as for these spawn protection bypasses? Remove it. Flat out get rid of that. NOTHING should be able to damage you in that time period. As I and many, MANY, other people have stated, this isn't CoD. Get rid of these base, cheap tactics once and for all. It's hard to take a game seriously when the company doesn't want to fix the simplest and most obvious of issues. First off I hate people who say go back to cod. I've been playing dust for over two years, you go back to cod noob. Your OP was garbage, you didn't put forth any constructive arguments, just accused random corps of spawn camping, and suggested a completely unrealistic solution. Great let people who just spawned damage everyone else and be invincible. Cleary you've never played this game in a truly compettitive atmosphere. Let me give you a hint... Heavies. So I'll tell you again. You spawn where you choose to and if it's being camped, you die. If you die, you lose. If you lose, I win. Therefore it's a legitimate tactic. I hope to camp your spawn soon scrub. Now be good and let this thread die, adults are talking. So after laughing my ass off at this shitpost, I decided to construct a reply. You say I accused "Random" corps. Well, I've been spawn camped multiple times by two of them, and I was actually in Mithril Forge before I got kicked for persistently destroying uplinks they were camping. You = idiot. You say I don't play competitive, ergo, that I only ever play Pubs. Again, you are wrong. I play FW all the time, to win, not to troll. Spawn camping is never a tactic of mine, and still a tactic I put a stop to as often as possible, and my team wins plenty of times. You = Bigger idiot. "I spawn where I choose to" How many times have I mentioned the MCC being the only viable spawn option? Most people with at least two brain cells would assume that, wait for it.... ....THATS WHERE I'M SPAWNING. In summary, you're an EXTREMELY moronic tool. So please, go play the "easy games" where you can play your "valid" tactic, and let the actual adults do the talking. Logistics mk.0 / Logibro's Modified Logistics mk.0 Scout gk.0/ Scotsman's Modified Scout gk.0 Commando gk.0
Boot Booter Titans of Phoenix 1206	Posted - 2015.03.21 03:16:00 - [12] - Quote ^ I stopped reading when you said FW, sorry.
Timtron Victory Horizons' Edge 449	Posted - 2015.03.21 03:17:00 - [13] - Quote You know something very sad, if you try to shut up someone who has a complaint about this game, and they leave, well you can't play by yourself........... You say you kill them and you win? If they leave and the game it scrapped, you ultimately lose. Oh well RATATATAGäó CCP WhoeverGäó Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 497	Posted - 2015.03.21 03:17:00 - [14] - Quote Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: So instead of trying to help you out of a spawn camp situation my post came across as me defending spawn camping? Hmmm. That's strange and unintended. LOL, Ahkhomi, just shrug it off. Your post was clearly understood by me as good Dust-combat advice, not as defending spawning. ButGÇª "a good dead never goes unpunished"GÇª I just listened to Rattati express a point of view that I like and agree with. All fps games at their core have an "expectancy" that you will be killed regularly, that the risk is always there no matter what your gun-unlock level. Dust is simply a more brutal level of that expectancy, where you're regularity of deaths is simply much higher than other fps titles treat their players. Yes, spawning is a strategy and staple in nearly any fps (other fps games even encounter a rudimentary form of Redlining). But I would also give Dust credit, by suggesting that the problem you're describing has ALREADY been "fixed" as far as a merciless game liked Dust will ever go: Dust has MINIMIZED it. It (and Redlining) hasn't gone away, and maybe shouldn't go completely. If you don't want to alienate classic fps players completely, you need to allow them some access to the habits and strategies they've grown up with. The reason I suggest it has been minimized is because, as Ahkhomi hinted, camping is now only a consequence of OUR team's mistakes. When we don't do those things that help avoid picking an uplink that shows signs of being overrun, and when we have an uplink carrier who isn't quite compitent enough to place in ways/times that hardly get camped,GÇª our team has caused the camping. And in Dust, well,GÇª it's what we kind of deserve. And in Dust, we can't expect a lot of help correcting catastrophes that WE cause during the fight. I kind of make the same argument for Redlining in this game. I may be a rubbish-poor gunslinger in this game (Zero point three four KDR), but I don't get redlined anymore, and I seldom step into an uplink-camp. Sometimes, but happily few. Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
Edau Skir2 Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 842	Posted - 2015.03.21 03:18:00 - [15] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: ^ I stopped reading when you said FW, sorry. Hmm, Titans of Phoenix. Where have I seen that name? Oh I know, MinFW. Otherwise known as, EASY MODE. Like I said, adults are talking. Logistics mk.0 / Logibro's Modified Logistics mk.0 Scout gk.0/ Scotsman's Modified Scout gk.0 Commando gk.0
Edau Skir2 Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 842	Posted - 2015.03.21 03:20:00 - [16] - Quote CELESTA AUNGM wrote: Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: So instead of trying to help you out of a spawn camp situation my post came across as me defending spawn camping? Hmmm. That's strange and unintended. LOL, Ahkhomi, just shrug it off. Your post was clearly understood by me as good Dust-combat advice, not as defending spawning. ButGÇª "a good dead never goes unpunished"GÇª I just listened to Rattati express a point of view that I like and agree with. All fps games at their core have an "expectancy" that you will be killed regularly, that the risk is always there no matter what your gun-unlock level. Dust is simply a more brutal level of that expectancy, where you're regularity of deaths is simply much higher than other fps titles treat their players. Yes, spawning is a strategy and staple in nearly any fps (other fps games even encounter a rudimentary form of Redlining). But I would also give Dust credit, by suggesting that the problem you're describing has ALREADY been "fixed" as far as a merciless game liked Dust will ever go: Dust has MINIMIZED it. It (and Redlining) hasn't gone away, and maybe shouldn't go completely. If you don't want to alienate classic fps players completely, you need to allow them some access to the habits and strategies they've grown up with. The reason I suggest it has been minimized is because, as Ahkhomi hinted, camping is now only a consequence of OUR team's mistakes. When we don't do those things that help avoid picking an uplink that shows signs of being overrun, and when we have an uplink carrier who isn't quite compitent enough to place in ways/times that hardly get camped,GÇª our team has caused the camping. And in Dust, well,GÇª it's what we kind of deserve. And in Dust, we can't expect a lot of help correcting catastrophes that WE cause during the fight. I kind of make the same argument for Redlining in this game. I may be a rubbish-poor gunslinger in this game (Zero point three four KDR), but I don't get redlined anymore, and I seldom step into an uplink-camp. Sometimes, but happily few. -Facepalm- You, just like Ahkhomi, misunderstood my second post. Logistics mk.0 / Logibro's Modified Logistics mk.0 Scout gk.0/ Scotsman's Modified Scout gk.0 Commando gk.0
Boot Booter Titans of Phoenix 1206	Posted - 2015.03.21 03:24:00 - [17] - Quote Edau Skir2 wrote: Boot Booter wrote: ^ I stopped reading when you said FW, sorry. Hmm, Titans of Phoenix. Where have I seen that name? Oh I know, MinFW. Otherwise known as, EASY MODE. Like I said, adults are talking. LOL. Yeah we only fight for minmatar. Actually the Corp was made to fight the Amarr.
Edau Skir2 Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 842	Posted - 2015.03.21 03:26:00 - [18] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: Edau Skir2 wrote: Boot Booter wrote: ^ I stopped reading when you said FW, sorry. Hmm, Titans of Phoenix. Where have I seen that name? Oh I know, MinFW. Otherwise known as, EASY MODE. Like I said, adults are talking. LOL. Yeah we only fight for minmatar. Actually the Corp was made to fight the Amarr. To fight the Amarr.....which only one race does.....which I already mentioned. Forum troll is terrible at their job. Logistics mk.0 / Logibro's Modified Logistics mk.0 Scout gk.0/ Scotsman's Modified Scout gk.0 Commando gk.0
Ahkhomi Cypher Opus Arcana 706	Posted - 2015.03.21 03:29:00 - [19] - Quote Edau Skir2 wrote: ....read it again. There are two parts. Hint; The part referring to replies who weren't defending begins with "The rest of you" Oh, my bad. It appears as though I've goofed. Apologies where appropriate. But for real though if you know something is getting camped don't spawn there. That redline MCC walk of shame sucks but sometimes you just gotta do it. meh. Dust life. With that spawn immunity thing tho. That can be a double edged sword. What if somebody is trying to hack a letter/cru and a sentinel spawns in. Would it be fair for the sentinel to have immunity in that situation? No Skill Required
Edau Skir2 Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 842	Posted - 2015.03.21 03:32:00 - [20] - Quote Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: Edau Skir2 wrote: ....read it again. There are two parts. Hint; The part referring to replies who weren't defending begins with "The rest of you" Oh, my bad. It appears as though I've goofed. Apologies where appropriate. But for real though if you know something is getting camped don't spawn there. That redline MCC walk of shame sucks but sometimes you just gotta do it. meh. Dust life. With that spawn immunity thing tho. That can be a double edged sword. What if somebody is trying to hack a letter/cru and a sentinel spawns in. Would it be fair for the sentinel to have immunity in that situation? You raise a good point. Maybe they tweak it so that MCRU's and Letters grant a lessened (if any) time period for said invulnerability, or they just remove the workaround e.g. REs, Nova Knives etc, so that the spawning player has a fair chance of fighting their camper back. Logistics mk.0 / Logibro's Modified Logistics mk.0 Scout gk.0/ Scotsman's Modified Scout gk.0 Commando gk.0

tal mrak-thanl Aethan Dor 271	Posted - 2015.03.21 03:45:00 - [21] - Quote Edaubro, take it easy on your fellow forum warriors. Most people don't posses particularly keen concepts of morality or fairness, and it's not really fair to expect them to. We live in a monetized global society that promotes self centered behavior, and encourages the exploitation of weakness. You aren't going to improve this, or any institution with alienating words. The people who camp spawns are exactly the ones you should address in this thread, and you should do so with decorum, in hopes that your point will become relatable. If even one person makes the decision to stop camping spawns, then you will be rewarded with measurable success. If enough people can be brought to agree with you, you may even accomplish a large scale change to the mechanic that causes you so much strife.
Mobius Wyvern Sky-FIRE 5853	Posted - 2015.03.21 03:51:00 - [22] - Quote Edau Skir2 wrote: All you who just defended spawn camping after clearly not reading the op, leave this thread, this forum, this game, and go back to CoD where camping is apparently a "valid tactic" The rest of you, I'm more annoyed with the long ass haul from the MCC because I can plainly see every other spawn point is camped. Ofc, in these cases, the team is redlined. Which usually means, game over, don't bother playing, but for the love of god don't quit otherwise you're only spiting yourself out of isk. And as for these spawn protection bypasses? Remove it. Flat out get rid of that. NOTHING should be able to damage you in that time period. As I and many, MANY, other people have stated, this isn't CoD. Get rid of these base, cheap tactics once and for all. It's hard to take a game seriously when the company doesn't want to fix the simplest and most obvious of issues. You haven't addressed what any of -us- have been saying. Drop. Your. Own. Damn. Uplink. If people are camping all the ones other people are dropping, use some of your own. I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV R.I.P. Kesha
Yeeeuuuupppp 920	Posted - 2015.03.21 06:56:00 - [23] - Quote That would actually be really stupid, making it that when you spawn you can shoot them but they can't shoot back. I would just make it so aim assist doesn't track someone who just spawned and maybe that the person who just spawned has that fabled couple seconds of invincibility until they shoot or move (right now you can plc or remote them out of that invincibility for some reason) *Sheeba Sheeba* PSN: GMANCASH "I played Dust so long i grew a f--king afro"
8213 Blauhelme E.B.O.L.A. 2159	Posted - 2015.03.21 07:23:00 - [24] - Quote WHOA DUDE! There is no fixing a spawn camp. How else am I to prove to the community that I'm good????????? Standing on a red CRU fighting my teammates for a +50 is a lot of work, my man... And for old-time sake... Image a DUST 514 where you would be taking damage and dead before your screen faded in from black? That was true spawn camping at it's worst Pubs are those pesky things that we need to get our SP.
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 2914	Posted - 2015.03.21 07:43:00 - [25] - Quote Well... I do agree with you, spawn camping is a **** move and they should feel bad about circlejerking on poor newbs. Will they feel bad? No... However, I am also one to say don't spawn there, and to drop uplinks somewhere else. Sorry man. Plasma Cannon :3 Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 2309	Posted - 2015.03.21 08:33:00 - [26] - Quote yes you can get spawn camped in dust but if your a vet with some amount of common sense it should rarely happen. instead of mashing x when you die take some time in the spawn screen to survey the situation. if you see a blue uplink right next to a red letter with the bluedots disappearing it means that area is over run and chances are you will be camped. the MCC is a great place to spawn when your team is getting destroyed because it allows me to get in my ADS with some of my own uplinks and place them with some intelligence. but spawn camping is the root of a deeper problem and that is simple your team is getting destroyed and over run and no amount of greatly placed uplinks is going to change the mindless nubs that cant kill anything from being spawn camped. KEQ diplomat. CBM
Edau Skir2 Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 848	Posted - 2015.03.21 11:03:00 - [27] - Quote I do like how a lot of these replies are telling me to either drop my own uplinks or "not spawn there" I'll say it again, I spawn at the MCC when these camps happen. It's the haul back that irritates me. Because of base, noob tactics, I'm now the frikkin marathon man. Least I can guarantee my raider missions will be done Logistics mk.0 / Logibro's Modified Logistics mk.0 Scout gk.0/ Scotsman's Modified Scout gk.0 Commando gk.0
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game RUST415 477	Posted - 2015.03.21 11:13:00 - [28] - Quote When someone spawns in an uplink I am about to destroy, he's invincible and all my shots are wasted if I try to kill him. But when I spawn on an uplink that's beeing camped, I always get instakilled without having enough time to move a finger! How is that even possible? I can't shoot fresh spawned people but they can shoot me when I spawn!? :o Fix the game before trying to add anything else. (Hint: hit detection, lags, glitches,.. you've got some work :) )
Colossus of Sardia Mithril Forge E-R-A 27	Posted - 2015.03.21 11:16:00 - [29] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: When someone spawns in an uplink I am about to destroy, he's invincible and all my shots are wasted if I try to kill him. But when I spawn on an uplink that's beeing camped, I always get instakilled without having enough time to move a finger! How is that even possible? I can't shoot fresh spawned people but they can shoot me when I spawn!? :o happens to me all the time too >:[
H0riz0n Unlimit Dead Man's Game 534	Posted - 2015.03.21 11:17:00 - [30] - Quote Edau Skir2 wrote: When the effing hell is this going to be fixed? I am sick and tired of having it happen. And no, Spawning on a different uplink is not an option, because you can guarantee that players from corps like Mithril Forge, Neg-Feed and Gallicus will be camping them. The only viable spawn point in any game atm is the MCC, but yet again, Neg-Feed made that seem like a gamble. So, I propose that players spawning in should be able to inflict damage IMMEDIATELY, and not be able to be damaged until a couple of seconds have passed, NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND LIKE IT IS ATM. Having an entire game of the only other two MCRUs in the game constantly spammed with RE's is not my idea of fair. And before anyone says "Working as intended" take that weak ass reply elsewhere, adults are talking. You are talking about 3 different corps that have a lot of LOLplayers. The first one own a district to farm isk( anyone who attack them send me a mail, i will ring for free or pay for ring), N-F has got a lot of vets and some guys that ruins the idea of that corp( rafa lolbros), prima gallicus think that every pub game is a PC, perma scans and proto all day , when you say they are camping the answer is they were defending something. As nothing will change make treasure of your experience and avoid these tactics as long as you can Alt of The KTM(FOTM) DuKe. 34 milion SP in vehicles//59 milion SP in infantry. Pagl1u M is not my director



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