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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.03.20 22:52:00 -
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Michael Epic wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I'm thinking this will now put more pressure on CCP to decide sooner rather than later on whether to port Dust over to the PS4 or to the PC. Honestly, I prefer both if the game's revenue can support it. Because of this latest news, I'm now more inclined to spend more money on this game primarily to help support Dust development. You know what would be super duper smart? CROWDFUNDING Look at what Star Citizen did with Kickstarter! Their goal was 2-4 million and they're rolling in deep pockets at 74.8 million and still climbing. There are SO MANY EVE players and EVE has been around forever and if CCP whipped up a sweet looking trailer with some actual LEGION assets or future DUST assets and gave at least a basic game plan....I bet they could have deep pockets too in no time. I'd donate! I'd be thrilled to donate! I'd be foaming at the mouth to donate! And then they could hit the turbo button and hire some devs, expand the team and kick this place up a notch or three!
There is just one major problem with your master plan.
Eve Online players are not stupid. We don't fall for fancy trailers.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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mollerz
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Posted - 2015.03.20 22:59:00 -
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kickstarter?! lol.. hello. Kickstarters are for small companies to get started. Not for an entrenched company with financial problems to fleece their customers.
CIG > CCP. Same goes for their CEOs. |
Michael Epic
Horizons' Edge
699
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Posted - 2015.03.20 23:04:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Michael Epic wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I'm thinking this will now put more pressure on CCP to decide sooner rather than later on whether to port Dust over to the PS4 or to the PC. Honestly, I prefer both if the game's revenue can support it. Because of this latest news, I'm now more inclined to spend more money on this game primarily to help support Dust development. You know what would be super duper smart? CROWDFUNDING Look at what Star Citizen did with Kickstarter! Their goal was 2-4 million and they're rolling in deep pockets at 74.8 million and still climbing. There are SO MANY EVE players and EVE has been around forever and if CCP whipped up a sweet looking trailer with some actual LEGION assets or future DUST assets and gave at least a basic game plan....I bet they could have deep pockets too in no time. I'd donate! I'd be thrilled to donate! I'd be foaming at the mouth to donate! And then they could hit the turbo button and hire some devs, expand the team and kick this place up a notch or three! There is just one major problem with your master plan. Eve Online players are not stupid. We don't fall for fancy trailers.
"WE" lmao dude I'm an EVE player too
Michael Epic's "EPIC" Proposal to his girlfriend :D
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Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
6275
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Posted - 2015.03.20 23:41:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Thor, you act as if PC gaming is some niche hobby and PC gamers number in the hundreds  Spoiler: that ain't the case.
CCP has Valkerie going to the PS4. I'd wager nearly every single person that tried Dust on PS3 would give it a shot on PS4. Is that the case if they go to PC?
I'd focus on PS4 first to take advantage of an already existing base. |
One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8701
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Posted - 2015.03.20 23:48:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Michael Epic wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I'm thinking this will now put more pressure on CCP to decide sooner rather than later on whether to port Dust over to the PS4 or to the PC. Honestly, I prefer both if the game's revenue can support it. Because of this latest news, I'm now more inclined to spend more money on this game primarily to help support Dust development. You know what would be super duper smart? CROWDFUNDING Look at what Star Citizen did with Kickstarter! Their goal was 2-4 million and they're rolling in deep pockets at 74.8 million and still climbing. There are SO MANY EVE players and EVE has been around forever and if CCP whipped up a sweet looking trailer with some actual LEGION assets or future DUST assets and gave at least a basic game plan....I bet they could have deep pockets too in no time. I'd donate! I'd be thrilled to donate! I'd be foaming at the mouth to donate! And then they could hit the turbo button and hire some devs, expand the team and kick this place up a notch or three! There is just one major problem with your master plan. Eve Online players are not stupid. We don't fall for fancy trailers.
Did the Jita Riots have nothing to do with fancy trailers? How were those false promises delivered?
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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JDEZ09
Dark Side Alliance
101
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Posted - 2015.03.20 23:52:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Thor, you act as if PC gaming is some niche hobby and PC gamers number in the hundreds Spoiler: that ain't the case. CCP has Valkerie going to the PS4. I'd wager nearly every single person that tried Dust on PS3 would give it a shot on PS4. Is that the case if they go to PC? I'd focus on PS4 first to take advantage of an already existing base.
The HUD on the Project Legion footage that we have seen looks as if it is catered and contoured to a VR headset.
#ProjectLegion&ProjectMorpheous
Now that could turn some heads! |
Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
1802
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Posted - 2015.03.21 00:05:00 -
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JDEZ09 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Thor, you act as if PC gaming is some niche hobby and PC gamers number in the hundreds Spoiler: that ain't the case. CCP has Valkerie going to the PS4. I'd wager nearly every single person that tried Dust on PS3 would give it a shot on PS4. Is that the case if they go to PC? I'd focus on PS4 first to take advantage of an already existing base. The HUD on the Project Legion footage that we have seen looks as if it is catered and contoured to a VR headset. #ProjectLegion&ProjectMorpheous Now that could turn some heads!
No! Bad!
Time for a platform jump. Dust to WiiU!
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Cypher Nil
Fireteam Tempest
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Posted - 2015.03.21 00:56:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:http://www.polygon.com/2015/3/20/8263823/playstation-3-exclusive-dust-514-is-now-a-profitable-game-for-ccp The sky is not falling? Keep those booster sales going strong, CCP loves you  A bit about Dust's future: "We are in the tail end of the life cycle of a console, and at some point PlayStation 3s are going to go out of commission, there is a point in time when that happens, itGÇÖs probably years from now. And weGÇÖre getting a lot of new players into the game every single day," he said. "So itGÇÖs not like we have captured all the audience on the PlayStation 3, we see thousands of new people come in every single day."
And all it took were a large amount of cash grab shop items added to the game, some of which are arguably pay to win features.
emm is... is that good? discuss?
+20 Million SP Merc
Caldari Loyalist
Of course we won, now when do I get paid?
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Cypher Nil
Fireteam Tempest
89
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Posted - 2015.03.21 00:59:00 -
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JDEZ09 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Thor, you act as if PC gaming is some niche hobby and PC gamers number in the hundreds Spoiler: that ain't the case. CCP has Valkerie going to the PS4. I'd wager nearly every single person that tried Dust on PS3 would give it a shot on PS4. Is that the case if they go to PC? I'd focus on PS4 first to take advantage of an already existing base. The HUD on the Project Legion footage that we have seen looks as if it is catered and contoured to a VR headset. #ProjectLegion&ProjectMorpheous Now that could turn some heads!
No it wasn't, where did you get that idea? not to mention other FPS games haven't done this because its a strain on the player playings and hurts the overall experense, your proposing CCP add an even worse control scheme to a game with a lousy one to begin with? why don't we all use Playstation Move from now on so.
+20 Million SP Merc
Caldari Loyalist
Of course we won, now when do I get paid?
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
11181
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Posted - 2015.03.21 01:04:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Michael Epic wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I'm thinking this will now put more pressure on CCP to decide sooner rather than later on whether to port Dust over to the PS4 or to the PC. Honestly, I prefer both if the game's revenue can support it. Because of this latest news, I'm now more inclined to spend more money on this game primarily to help support Dust development. You know what would be super duper smart? CROWDFUNDING Look at what Star Citizen did with Kickstarter! Their goal was 2-4 million and they're rolling in deep pockets at 74.8 million and still climbing. There are SO MANY EVE players and EVE has been around forever and if CCP whipped up a sweet looking trailer with some actual LEGION assets or future DUST assets and gave at least a basic game plan....I bet they could have deep pockets too in no time. I'd donate! I'd be thrilled to donate! I'd be foaming at the mouth to donate! And then they could hit the turbo button and hire some devs, expand the team and kick this place up a notch or three! There is just one major problem with your master plan. Eve Online players are not stupid. We don't fall for fancy trailers. Did the Jita Riots have nothing to do with fancy trailers? How were those false promises delivered?
That is when we learned back in 2011 to stop falling for the hype.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Kain Spero
Negative-Feedback.
4846
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Posted - 2015.03.21 10:40:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Thor, you act as if PC gaming is some niche hobby and PC gamers number in the hundreds Spoiler: that ain't the case. CCP has Valkerie going to the PS4. I'd wager nearly every single person that tried Dust on PS3 would give it a shot on PS4. Is that the case if they go to PC? I'd focus on PS4 first to take advantage of an already existing base.
Not only to take advantage of an existing base, but to treat the customers that have gotten the game to this point with dignity and respect.
Again, the PS4 is x86 so going beyond the PS4 to things like PC would be easy enough. Honor your current customers and then expand from there.
Owner of Spero Escrow Services
Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
273
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Posted - 2015.03.21 10:51:00 -
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A lot of new players? - http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust that stay?
Ps3's are out of commission next year.
The console trend is also undeniable.
Do any of you guys believe in god or luck by any chance?.
Matchmaking will boost the ps3 capability by 1000% and we can enjoy Dust for years to come......
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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
273
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Posted - 2015.03.21 10:52:00 -
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Michael Epic wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I'm thinking this will now put more pressure on CCP to decide sooner rather than later on whether to port Dust over to the PS4 or to the PC. Honestly, I prefer both if the game's revenue can support it. Because of this latest news, I'm now more inclined to spend more money on this game primarily to help support Dust development. You know what would be super duper smart? CROWDFUNDING Look at what Star Citizen did with Kickstarter! Their goal was 2-4 million and they're rolling in deep pockets at 74.8 million and still climbing. There are SO MANY EVE players and EVE has been around forever and if CCP whipped up a sweet looking trailer with some actual LEGION assets or future DUST assets and gave at least a basic game plan....I bet they could have deep pockets too in no time. I'd donate! I'd be thrilled to donate! I'd be foaming at the mouth to donate! And then they could hit the turbo button and hire some devs, expand the team and kick this place up a notch or three!
Crowd funding for a ps4 port and further development would be great.
Matchmaking will boost the ps3 capability by 1000% and we can enjoy Dust for years to come......
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Kain Spero
Negative-Feedback.
4846
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Posted - 2015.03.21 11:03:00 -
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Can established companies even do crowd funding?
Owner of Spero Escrow Services
Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
273
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Posted - 2015.03.21 11:08:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Thor, you act as if PC gaming is some niche hobby and PC gamers number in the hundreds Spoiler: that ain't the case.
Good games do tend to be niche on PC while people mostly go for jokes like hearthstone, farming simulator, goat simulator and Stuff like CSGO, runescape etc.
Matchmaking will boost the ps3 capability by 1000% and we can enjoy Dust for years to come......
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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
273
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Posted - 2015.03.21 11:09:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Can established companies even do crowd funding?
I'd imagine so if they worded it properly.
They'd most likely need to be very careful and specific with guarantees as well.
Matchmaking will boost the ps3 capability by 1000% and we can enjoy Dust for years to come......
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Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
2321
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Posted - 2015.03.21 11:46:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Can established companies even do crowd funding?
Of course. Double Fine, Obsidian and quite a few others have tried and been successful.
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
2321
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Posted - 2015.03.21 11:49:00 -
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TerranKnight87 wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Thor, you act as if PC gaming is some niche hobby and PC gamers number in the hundreds Spoiler: that ain't the case. Good games do tend to be niche on PC while people mostly go for jokes like hearthstone, farming simulator, goat simulator and Stuff like CSGO, runescape etc.
Hearthstone isn't a joke  It's the best online card game on the market. I mean I know that isn't saying much, but still. It's a good game.
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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Kain Spero
Negative-Feedback.
4871
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Posted - 2015.03.24 13:29:00 -
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Pseudogenesis wrote:Kain Spero wrote:Can established companies even do crowd funding? Of course. Double Fine, Obsidian and quite a few others have tried and been successful.
CCP doing some kind of crowd funding seems..... odd. Really if CCP announced they were going to go next-gen with Dust I think people would provide the crowd funding through Dust 514 itself.
Owner of Spero Escrow Services
Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
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First Prophet
Nos Nothi
2768
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Posted - 2015.03.24 15:17:00 -
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TerranKnight87 wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Thor, you act as if PC gaming is some niche hobby and PC gamers number in the hundreds Spoiler: that ain't the case. Good games do tend to be niche on PC while people mostly go for jokes like hearthstone, farming simulator, goat simulator and Stuff like CSGO, runescape etc.
Don't be talkin' smack about runescape.
People find this this review helpful!
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
8702
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Posted - 2015.03.24 15:23:00 -
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TerranKnight87 wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Thor, you act as if PC gaming is some niche hobby and PC gamers number in the hundreds Spoiler: that ain't the case. Good games do tend to be niche on PC while people mostly go for jokes like hearthstone, farming simulator, goat simulator and Stuff like CSGO, runescape etc. I don't like Blizzard as a company, but Hearthstone is one of the best online CCG's ever made.
Sins of a Solar Empire is a real-time strategy game from Stardock. Lichdom: Battlemage is an FPS where you are a spellcasting badass mage. Pillars of Eternity is a spiritual successor to the Baldur's Gate franchise. All PC exclusives, all great games.
In short, you have no idea what you are talking about if you think PC games are "niche" and jokes.
Also, CCP furiously masturbates every night to earning a fraction of the income and fanbase that CSGO has.
4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.
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7th Son 7
BLITZKRIEG7
613
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Posted - 2015.03.24 15:29:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:http://www.polygon.com/2015/3/20/8263823/playstation-3-exclusive-dust-514-is-now-a-profitable-game-for-ccp The sky is not falling? Keep those booster sales going strong, CCP loves you A bit about Dust's future: "We are in the tail end of the life cycle of a console, and at some point PlayStation 3s are going to go out of commission, there is a point in time when that happens, itGÇÖs probably years from now. And weGÇÖre getting a lot of new players into the game every single day," he said. "So itGÇÖs not like we have captured all the audience on the PlayStation 3, we see thousands of new people come in every single day."
Woot woot, bump to all my stubborn Dust brothers in arms, keep pushing that objective men!, woot woot
Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
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Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
1009
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Posted - 2015.03.24 15:51:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:The PS3 may remain for years but the community will not. Lets get this thing over to PS4 *before* we get to a critical point and the community collapses.
If CCP announced plans to move Dust to x86 architecture and reaffirmed their commitment to this being a "10 year game" I suspect the PS3 version would become even more profitable.
#DustPS4
Exactly, one thing that was missing in all these articles is just some kind of "vision"... they don't know what they want to do, or where they want to go... or how to go about it... it sounds so ethereal and vague... if they said "we are aiming for X and hopefully you can come with us" they would get so many people on board because we all have some direction....
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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
280
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Posted - 2015.03.24 16:12:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:TerranKnight87 wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Thor, you act as if PC gaming is some niche hobby and PC gamers number in the hundreds Spoiler: that ain't the case. Good games do tend to be niche on PC while people mostly go for jokes like hearthstone, farming simulator, goat simulator and Stuff like CSGO, runescape etc. I don't like Blizzard as a company, but Hearthstone is one of the best online CCG's ever made. Sins of a Solar Empire is a real-time strategy game from Stardock. Lichdom: Battlemage is an FPS where you are a spellcasting badass mage. Pillars of Eternity is a spiritual successor to the Baldur's Gate franchise. All PC exclusives, all great games. In short, you have no idea what you are talking about if you think PC games are "niche" and jokes. Also, CCP furiously masturbates every night to earning a fraction of the income and fanbase that CSGO has.
Ive been PC gaming since 95 mate.
I didn't say PC games are niche at all either. I said good games tend to be niche which I guess I shouldn't have stated in absolute terms.
Ive quit CSGO as I get voted out of games as a hacker often. I CBA with it anymore. Even after the new VACaction anti cheat software has been implemented, it is still hackusation madness.
Matchmaking will boost the ps3 capability by 1000% and we can enjoy Dust for years to come......
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Warbot Titan X
TRIGGERS D0WN
184
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Posted - 2015.03.24 16:21:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:The PS3 may remain for years but the community will not. Lets get this thing over to PS4 *before* we get to a critical point and the community collapses.
If CCP announced plans to move Dust to x86 architecture and reaffirmed their commitment to this being a "10 year game" I suspect the PS3 version would become even more profitable.
#DustPS4
Well said. It's like CCP doesn't want it to be a 10 year game anyways haha.
My Dust 514 Youtube Channel
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2419
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Posted - 2015.03.24 16:34:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Giving credit to Rattati and all for making this game profitable is like giving credit to the leech for getting a full meal.
We bought the boosters, respecs, APEX suits, Quafe suits, keys, after battle boosters. They created them.
So good job on making a money off of us and still announcing that you cannot do what you wanted to do with DUST. It is good news but don't be congratulating Walmart for making a profit on something they are selling.
Are you aware that a big part of what rattati wanted to do (and did do) with dust 514 was try to create healthy good-feeling ways to monetize dust514 as a game instead of the very bad / very impermanent ways that were present?
So yeah, dust being profitable now is a good thing because of Rattati's work. Or should we just not acknowledge that he's done good for us and carry on like entitled twats?
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Slave of MORTE
353
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Posted - 2015.03.24 16:41:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:The PS3 may remain for years but the community will not. Lets get this thing over to PS4 *before* we get to a critical point and the community collapses.
If CCP announced plans to move Dust to x86 architecture and reaffirmed their commitment to this being a "10 year game" I suspect the PS3 version would become even more profitable.
#DustPS4
Let's see it ccp
Make the commitment
Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
944
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Posted - 2015.03.24 18:04:00 -
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Luk Manag wrote:Michael Epic wrote:Kain Spero wrote:The PS3 may remain for years but the community will not. Lets get this thing over to PS4 *before* we get to a critical point and the community collapses.
If CCP announced plans to move Dust to x86 architecture and reaffirmed their commitment to this being a "10 year game" I suspect the PS3 version would become even more profitable.
#DustPS4 I feel like you're right....if they came out and said hey, we're going to spend the next 2-3 years building a well balanced PS4 version of Dust 514 and we're going to use Dust 514 via the PS3 to test what works and what doesn't.....we'd all be like sweet, cool yeah we can roll with that and then when the big day came we'd migrate. Plus it would give people time to buy a PS4 lol plus black friday's and all kinds of opportunities for deals! I'm trying to plan out how many more PS3 controllers I need to buy. I don't really want to buy them one at a time, but I don't want to overstock either...if only they lasted longer than 3 months.
LOL, I feel your pain. I go through about 3 controllers a year, its always the left analogue that gets trashed.. |
Crimson Moon V
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Posted - 2015.03.24 18:32:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: the second to second game play lol as if they're the first to make an FPS.. if we cared so much about that we would just play any of the other hundreds of FPS out there that don't have second to second lag and frame rate issues.. it was the idea of MMO/connection to EVE that your fans bought into now you want to laugh that away you ppl really need to get in touch with reality, no one picked this up originally for second to second gameplay that they are bragging about. fix your frame rate ffs before bragging about second to second gameplay because your second to second gamplay has always been riddled with garbage like hit detection issues and frame rate now you idiots want to say that it is the most important thing and the reason ppl love dust, damn you ppl are deluded AF. also those "thousands" of new players every day are academy alt accounts you deluded *****
I remember you being such an optimist back in beta. Everyone gives into bittervet fever eventually.
The fanboys that still support CCP really need to get all that Icelandic sperm pumped from their stomach.
Looks at ironwolf.
Let how you play speak for you, not what you say.-Naberuis_x
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Luk Manag
of Terror
TRE GAFFEL
710
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Posted - 2015.03.24 19:07:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:Luk Manag wrote:Michael Epic wrote:Kain Spero wrote:The PS3 may remain for years but the community will not. Lets get this thing over to PS4 *before* we get to a critical point and the community collapses.
If CCP announced plans to move Dust to x86 architecture and reaffirmed their commitment to this being a "10 year game" I suspect the PS3 version would become even more profitable.
#DustPS4 I feel like you're right....if they came out and said hey, we're going to spend the next 2-3 years building a well balanced PS4 version of Dust 514 and we're going to use Dust 514 via the PS3 to test what works and what doesn't.....we'd all be like sweet, cool yeah we can roll with that and then when the big day came we'd migrate. Plus it would give people time to buy a PS4 lol plus black friday's and all kinds of opportunities for deals! I'm trying to plan out how many more PS3 controllers I need to buy. I don't really want to buy them one at a time, but I don't want to overstock either...if only they lasted longer than 3 months. LOL, I feel your pain. I go through about 3 controllers a year, its always the left analogue that gets trashed..
It's the combined strafe-aiming plus constant stutter stepping, followed by furious dance fighting. Those knobs are just floppy and sloppy after a few months. They may technically function, but it's better to just replace them.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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