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Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.03.19 00:13:00 -
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The last 3 PC's ive played have been the laggiest its ever been for me. Maybe its only me, but i cannot tolerate it anymore. I reset right before every match and start the match with about 15 fps at best. I freeze in gunfights and end up dead 2 seconds later... idk what to do anymore, its a big waste of time, taking time out of the day to do this. When (if) PC is optimized to perform at minimum 30 fps, i will participate again. Fun matches with u guys. o7
Basically: Dust is unplayable
blue dot, shoot him!!!
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Mr Machine Guns
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Posted - 2015.03.19 00:16:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:The last 3 PC's ive played have been the laggiest its ever been for me. Maybe its only me, but i cannot tolerate it anymore. I reset right before every match and start the match with about 15 fps at best. I freeze in gunfights and end up dead 2 seconds later... idk what to do anymore, its a big waste of time, taking time out of the day to do this. When (if) PC is optimized to perform at minimum 30 fps, i will participate again. Fun matches with u guys. o7 Try deleting and reinstalling dust if you haven't recently |
Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
1080
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Posted - 2015.03.19 00:19:00 -
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thats so redundant. I could buy a new ps3 and dust will still be dust. no point. And honestly, this game isnt worth the effort lol.
blue dot, shoot him!!!
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.03.19 00:25:00 -
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Press Ctrl Alt Delete! Then bring up the task manager.
99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg
Oh yeah?! Well, I love redheads.
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Patrick57
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Posted - 2015.03.19 01:01:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:Press Ctrl Alt Delete! Then bring up the task manager. if that doesnt work try a clean reinstall |
Ghost Kaisar
Negative-Feedback
10711
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Posted - 2015.03.19 01:15:00 -
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Go into your merc quarters and press "R1" and then "Square"
Works like a charm. All the lag disappears.
Currently listening to: Max Anarchy OST
Old School Scout, watch out for the knives
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BLUNT SMKR
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
224
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Posted - 2015.03.19 01:35:00 -
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U should try reformating ur ps3 assert.
TeamWork>KDR
Jump Off a Cliff An Hit The Sky With Me
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Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.03.19 01:36:00 -
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Some dude posted a link to rebuilding the database on your PS3, that is the only trick anyone has ever posted that truly fixed any issues I was having.
That and deleting and reinstalling to get rid of multiple patch downloads. |
Maximus Mobius
Fatal Absolution
117
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Posted - 2015.03.19 03:06:00 -
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Try biomassing your character, selling your PS3 and use the money to buy some condoms and a hookers services.
"You got lives in you, hard to kill. Storm, bullets, sand and wind, yet you still walk. For now. -Ulysses F:NV
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Songs of Seraphim
Negative-Feedback.
365
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Posted - 2015.03.19 03:15:00 -
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I'm with Assert here. Just played a PC not even 30 minutes ago for Art of Death vs Molon and I was lagging immensely.
It was pretty bad... running into walls and jumping from point to point. I'd rather **** out kidney stones at that point.
Caldari loyalist
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Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
1083
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Posted - 2015.03.19 03:20:00 -
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Maximus Mobius wrote:Try biomassing your character, selling your PS3 and use the money to buy some condoms and a hookers services. was this an attempt at being funny?
blue dot, shoot him!!!
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Maximus Mobius
Fatal Absolution
117
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Posted - 2015.03.19 03:37:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:Maximus Mobius wrote:Try biomassing your character, selling your PS3 and use the money to buy some condoms and a hookers services. was this an attempt at being funny? If that's your wayside interpretation, then call it me being funny.If I have a problem with my PS3, I spend the day with my family or just relax and enjoy life. Life is good, enjoy it
"You got lives in you, hard to kill. Storm, bullets, sand and wind, yet you still walk. For now. -Ulysses F:NV
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xavier zor
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
1020
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Posted - 2015.03.19 04:04:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:The last 3 PC's ive played have been the laggiest its ever been for me. Maybe its only me, but i cannot tolerate it anymore. I reset right before every match and start the match with about 15 fps at best. I freeze in gunfights and end up dead 2 seconds later... idk what to do anymore, its a big waste of time, taking time out of the day to do this. When (if) PC is optimized to perform at minimum 30 fps, i will participate again. Fun matches with u guys. o7
Basically: Dust is unplayable
my advice:
1. The super-slim PS3's perform poorly, and PS3's with much data, movies, music ect. on it also perform poorly due to the amount of info it has to search through to find the DUST 514 files
2. Leave and re-join battle. I played a PC vs Cap Acq a while ago, both battles were super laggy but 50% of the time the lag stopped after i did this.
3. Re install dust 514.
4. Delete the data cache of your PS3. If you don't know how just search it up.
5. Wait for legion, or the port to PS4!
6. Re build your database.
999. Soak your PS3 in a bathtub of water to cool it off.
retired
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RGOuOaObVA<---KingThunderBolt fail montage
meh
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Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
1083
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Posted - 2015.03.19 04:08:00 -
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Maximus Mobius wrote:Assert Dominance wrote:Maximus Mobius wrote:Try biomassing your character, selling your PS3 and use the money to buy some condoms and a hookers services. was this an attempt at being funny? If that's your wayside interpretation, then call it me being funny.If I have a problem with my PS3, I spend the day with my family or just relax and enjoy life. Life is good, enjoy it i only play when theres a pc, or late at night when everyones sleep. dont retend everyone here has a neckbeard.
blue dot, shoot him!!!
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Maximus Mobius
Fatal Absolution
117
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Posted - 2015.03.19 05:07:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:Maximus Mobius wrote:Assert Dominance wrote:Maximus Mobius wrote:Try biomassing your character, selling your PS3 and use the money to buy some condoms and a hookers services. was this an attempt at being funny? If that's your wayside interpretation, then call it me being funny.If I have a problem with my PS3, I spend the day with my family or just relax and enjoy life. Life is good, enjoy it i only play when theres a pc, or late at night when everyones sleep. dont retend everyone here has a neckbeard. You yet again misinterpreted me. I never said everyone here has a neckbeard, you assumed its what I meant. I said it in a wave of euphoria and optimism. Be a bastard to me, I couldn't care less. But don't attack me. This is the war room, you can't fight in here!!
"You got lives in you, hard to kill. Storm, bullets, sand and wind, yet you still walk. For now. -Ulysses F:NV
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
5362
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Posted - 2015.03.19 08:16:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:thats so redundant. I could buy a new ps3 and dust will still be dust. no point. And honestly, this game isnt worth the effort lol.
Some players, sockets, and tactics increase lag substantially. Try 480p for some fights I know will be bullshit. Use 720p for pubs.
Always turn down textures and effects to low. Close chat channels. Etc, etc, etc.
Usually banned for being too awesome.
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norttheantiv
Negative-Feedback.
178
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Posted - 2015.03.19 09:01:00 -
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1. Clear out some memory on the PS3- Delete all the stuff you don't play 2. Delete mail- PS3 and Dust 3. Clear out as many assets as you can- sell them all 4. Rebuild database https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wxwwt97_8c 5. Fresh install of Dust 6.Keep chats down to 2-3 7. When you restart for PC, do not open mail, assets or fits, make sure that this is done as close as possible to the deploy. 8. Graphics set to 'low' 9. Post regularly on the forums demanding a PS4/PC port
I did this recently and it massively improved. It is still not good but PC now feels like playing on a different server rather than the slideshow it regularly became in the second half of most PCs.
Of course, the lag facility will no longer be an issue so that should improve things too.
Anyone got anything else?
Winner EU Squad Cup
Go Go Power Rangers!
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
2304
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Posted - 2015.03.19 11:30:00 -
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this is all nonsense you shouldn't have to sacrifice 4 chicken and a goat just to make the lag halfway playable in a video game. Dust is a poorly optimized pile of dog doo. i see not much reason to play if its painfuly clear their never going to fix the lag.
KEQ diplomat. CBM
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Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
1087
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Posted - 2015.03.19 11:39:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:this is all nonsense you shouldn't have to sacrifice 4 chicken and a goat just to make the lag halfway playable in a video game. Dust is a poorly optimized pile of dog doo. i see not much reason to play if its painfuly clear their never going to fix the lag. thats what im saying lol. Not even worth all that effort.
blue dot, shoot him!!!
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Kalante Schiffer
Ancient Exiles.
1024
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Posted - 2015.03.19 12:01:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:this is all nonsense you shouldn't have to sacrifice 4 chicken and a goat just to make the lag halfway playable in a video game. Dust is a poorly optimized pile of dog doo. i see not much reason to play if its painfuly clear their never going to fix the lag. thats what im saying lol. Not even worth all that effort. not now anymore, but back then yeah it was.
framerate>everything else
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norttheantiv
Negative-Feedback.
179
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Posted - 2015.03.19 12:56:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:this is all nonsense you shouldn't have to sacrifice 4 chicken and a goat just to make the lag halfway playable in a video game. Dust is a poorly optimized pile of dog doo. i see not much reason to play if its painfuly clear their never going to fix the lag. thats what im saying lol. Not even worth all that effort.
Agreed, but I am not here for the game, I am here for the people I have met and play with.
Winner EU Squad Cup
Go Go Power Rangers!
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
1974
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Posted - 2015.03.19 15:36:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:The last 3 PC's ive played have been the laggiest its ever been for me. Maybe its only me, but i cannot tolerate it anymore. I reset right before every match and start the match with about 15 fps at best. I freeze in gunfights and end up dead 2 seconds later... idk what to do anymore, its a big waste of time, taking time out of the day to do this. When (if) PC is optimized to perform at minimum 30 fps, i will participate again. Fun matches with u guys. o7
Basically: Dust is unplayable Dust running at 30 fps? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!
"The Boss NC Max" Destroying armour Ninja style, Mattocks=infantry tears, Flak Armor, nuff said.
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robin williams' ghost
whisky tango foxtrot sir
1063
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Posted - 2015.03.19 15:45:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:this is all nonsense you shouldn't have to sacrifice 4 chicken and a goat just to make the lag halfway playable in a video game. Dust is a poorly optimized pile of dog doo. i see not much reason to play if its painfuly clear their never going to fix the lag. Bye Can I have your isk?
Robin Williams endorses this corp
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
1974
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Posted - 2015.03.19 15:47:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:this is all nonsense you shouldn't have to sacrifice 4 chicken and a goat just to make the lag halfway playable in a video game. Dust is a poorly optimized pile of dog doo. i see not much reason to play if its painfuly clear their never going to fix the lag. thats what im saying lol. Not even worth all that effort. Ok, Trade in PS3 for PS4, game stop runs specials every now and then for 100-150 bucks trade in towards PS4. If you put in for PS2 beta code, a lot are going out tues 24th, if not, open beta should be soon. Find some other games to occupy your time, Dust is not worth the frustration.
The lag has been there in PC and Pubs since the beginning and is not going away, no matter what fixes you try, no matter what.
3000-4000 Dust vets that left a year ago can't be wrong. We're smashing each others crap in nightly in PS2 beta and loving it.
"The Boss NC Max" Destroying armour Ninja style, Mattocks=infantry tears, Flak Armor, nuff said.
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
2306
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Posted - 2015.03.19 17:23:00 -
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CYRAX SERVIUS wrote:Assert Dominance wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:this is all nonsense you shouldn't have to sacrifice 4 chicken and a goat just to make the lag halfway playable in a video game. Dust is a poorly optimized pile of dog doo. i see not much reason to play if its painfuly clear their never going to fix the lag. thats what im saying lol. Not even worth all that effort. Ok, Trade in PS3 for PS4, game stop runs specials every now and then for 100-150 bucks trade in towards PS4. If you put in for PS2 beta code, a lot are going out tues 24th, if not, open beta should be soon. Find some other games to occupy your time, Dust is not worth the frustration. The lag has been there in PC and Pubs since the beginning and is not going away, no matter what fixes you try, no matter what. 3000-4000 Dust vets that left a year ago can't be wrong. We're smashing each others crap in nightly in PS2 beta and loving it. maybe you are right cause all the Dust slayers on PS2 sounds fun stomping.
KEQ diplomat. CBM
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DJINN Rampage
Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention
1765
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Posted - 2015.03.19 17:25:00 -
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I kinda wanna be the Fidel Castro to this whole thing but, as user would put it, boobs.
Dust 514 Playboy Of The Year 2015
True Ancient Exile.
LoL>DUST514
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BLUNT SMKR
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
224
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Posted - 2015.03.19 18:19:00 -
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Ps2 ain't that great its alright but nothing special. Still isn't much to play on ps4 yet its sad
TeamWork>KDR
Jump Off a Cliff An Hit The Sky With Me
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
4965
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Posted - 2015.03.19 18:23:00 -
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I've got 4 halo games, Hardline, dying light all on Xbox one.. I have no intentions of coming back to dust other than my daily login bonus. If I get bored with all of those then I'll play scarlet blade or Runescape(need a different game)
Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
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el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention
931
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Posted - 2015.03.19 18:28:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:I kinda wanna be the Fidel Castro to this whole thing but, as user would put it, boobs.
Agreed. Boobs.
Open-Beta Vet.
Drunk Night Tree Burner.
This is my Main and Original.
DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
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8213
Blauhelme E.B.O.L.A.
2155
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Posted - 2015.03.20 02:52:00 -
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What about the part where you sacrifice a large chicken? If you need to jump through that many hoops to get PC playable, just take a break. It seems the more PC you play, the worse it will become over time. Try not playing for a week, than play a few,. Rinse & repeat.
Always worked for me. But usually PC is bad everywhere for whatever reason. Certainly "echo' has probably helped make it intolerable at this time as well. Never play PC the week of an update.
Pubs are those pesky things that we need to get our SP.
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
1975
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Posted - 2015.03.20 12:49:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:CYRAX SERVIUS wrote:Assert Dominance wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:this is all nonsense you shouldn't have to sacrifice 4 chicken and a goat just to make the lag halfway playable in a video game. Dust is a poorly optimized pile of dog doo. i see not much reason to play if its painfuly clear their never going to fix the lag. thats what im saying lol. Not even worth all that effort. Ok, Trade in PS3 for PS4, game stop runs specials every now and then for 100-150 bucks trade in towards PS4. If you put in for PS2 beta code, a lot are going out tues 24th, if not, open beta should be soon. Find some other games to occupy your time, Dust is not worth the frustration. The lag has been there in PC and Pubs since the beginning and is not going away, no matter what fixes you try, no matter what. 3000-4000 Dust vets that left a year ago can't be wrong. We're smashing each others crap in nightly in PS2 beta and loving it. maybe you are right cause all the Dust slayers on PS2 sounds fun stomping. Quite a few in there now, hopefully more wit Tuesdays update and huge release of codes, it's pretty cool.
"The Boss NC Max" Destroying armour Ninja style, Mattocks=infantry tears, Flak Armor, nuff said.
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axis alpha
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
691
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Posted - 2015.03.22 15:53:00 -
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No point in doing any tips and tricks. I just bought a brand new ps3 only thing installed is dust. Still **** lag in PC.
I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
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Stan Dan
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
39
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Posted - 2015.03.23 16:21:00 -
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Atleast you get into pc, the last one i qued for dropped both teams and disappeared.i guess thats ccps fix, you cant lag in pc if you cant play pc.
I can so I will
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Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
6306
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Posted - 2015.03.24 15:58:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:I've got 4 halo games, Hardline, dying light all on Xbox one.. I have no intentions of coming back to dust other than my daily login bonus. If I get bored with all of those then I'll play scarlet blade or Runescape(need a different game)
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Riptalis
Horizons' Edge
243
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Posted - 2015.03.24 21:44:00 -
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Is it really this bad still? Does everyone get massive lag because some people still do pretty good, I don't know how they do it :(
Python pilot, Logistics mk.0, Assault mk.0, Sentinel mk.0
Minmatar Loyalist
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
3830
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Posted - 2015.03.26 06:43:00 -
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BLUNT SMKR wrote:U should try reformating ur ps3 assert.
I reformatted my ps3...and dust is the only game that is currently on it. I've resetted right before matches and this still happens. Sadly, I have to agree with Assert on this...I don't think that I can take it anymore either.
Shield tanking is hard mode /period.
> Check RND out here
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Kalante Schiffer
Ancient Exiles.
1034
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Posted - 2015.03.26 09:36:00 -
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Back when uprising launched along with PC i thought to myself. Man i gotta do something about this terrible frame rate and horrible aiming mechanics i can not take it anymore. I tried many things. Different ps3, different tv/monitor. ps3 and in game settings. This was all the work trough out that one year 2013 that i did to make this game run better.
Everyone remembers how freaking terrible the aiming mechanics where back in the beginning of uprising?. So i switched to 480p and that worked wonders not as much as today but that really seemed to alleviate the problem. Aiming became smoother along with aim assist turned off and frame rate also became much better but at the trade off terrible rendering from far away objects. Still it would drop to below 10 frames after one game which meant it was time to reset the ps3. To fix this i went to frys and got a sandisk 64gb ssd. I no longer had to constantly do a full reset every game. Now it was every 3 or 5 games before everything went to poop again. But that was during full on tryhard wars like vs tp, fa, oh. Today i dont really find the need to reset.... I had constant 20 fps on every PC. Pubs ran relatively smoother no hiccups no nothing. Which was good. The ssd helped its purpose.
Then i went and bought this monitor rl2455hm. The amount of options that this monitor offers is scary. Let me tell you that this thing changed how dust felt compared when playing on a tv or my dell monitor which is what i used in chromosome and the beginning of uprising.
This benq monitor once you put RTS 2 or game 1 options with over scan turned on. Movement and aiming mechanics felt and still to this day as if there aren't any problems at all. It also feels like dust is running at 30fps in pubs and above 20 fps in PC. Today i would still recommend playing at 480p if you can get past the ugliness and the bad rendering but you will get smoother aiming. I already got used to it and barely notice.
Now that i got the superficial stuff out of the way there is something wrong with the detail and graphics settings on the in game options. They are bugged or at least to me they feel like they are bugged. If you set them both at high you actually get smoother aiming than if you set it at low.
i haven't really gotten any problems while playing planetary conquest except the usual bad frame rate in lag city when it was in PC. Other maps nothing too crazy. Maybe the extreme rare case of 5 frames per second. Last time it happened was about a month ago during the mushroom map.... Public matches are no problem at all. The only problems i ever encounter is when i DC and that is CCP's fault not mine because i have over 100mbps and the router is wired to my ps3. Though it doesn't really matter if you have really good internet because the ps3 only takes 29mbps.
I experiment and tried many different things during that year to make this game it work better and it paid off. As far as this goes.. this is the most performance you could suck out of this game. Would i spend the money as i did back then? no. Back then i had no idea this game would be canned at ff14. On the bright side i now have a decent monitor still nothing compared to those 144hz's ones but a 60hz with a 1ms imput lag is good enough for a console to handle.
CCP needs to fix hit detection.
AE
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Maximus Mobius
Fatal Absolution
124
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Posted - 2015.03.27 02:13:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:Back when uprising launched along with PC i thought to myself. Man i gotta do something about this terrible frame rate and horrible aiming mechanics i can not take it anymore. I tried many things. Different ps3, different tv/monitor. ps3 and in game settings. This was all the work trough out that one year 2013 that i did to make this game run better. Anyone remembers how freaking terrible the aiming mechanics where back in the beginning of uprising?. So i switched to 480p and that worked wonders not as much as today but that really seemed to alleviate the problem. Aiming became smoother along with aim assist turned off and frame rate also became much better but at the trade off terrible rendering from far away objects. Still it would drop to below 10 frames after one game which meant it was time to reset the ps3. To fix this i went to frys and got a sandisk 64gb ssd. Not all but most PC maps now became playable with a stable 15-20 fps. Pubs ran relatively smoother around above 20 fps all the time with no hiccups no nothing except lag facility like always. Which was good. The ssd helped its purpose.I no longer had to constantly do a full reset every PC game. Now it was every 3 or 5 games before everything went to poop again. But that was during full on tryhard wars like vs tp, fa, oh. Today i dont really find the need to reset... Then i went and bought this monitor rl2455hm. The amount of options that this monitor offers is scary. Let me tell you that this thing changed how dust felt compared when playing on a tv or my dell monitor which is what i used in chromosome and the beginning of uprising. This benq monitor once you put RTS 2 mode or game mode with over scan turned on. Aiming mechanics feel so responsive and smooth as if there aren't any problems at all. Public matches feel like they are running at 30 fps and 20 fps for PC. Today i would still recommend playing at 480p if you can get past the ugliness and the bad rendering but you will get smoother aiming. I already got used to it and barely notice. Now that i got the superficial stuff out of the way there is something wrong with the detail and texture settings on the in game options. They are bugged or at least to me they feel like they are bugged. If you set them both at high you actually get smoother aiming than if you set it at low. i haven't really gotten any problems while playing planetary conquest except the usual bad frame rate in lag city when it was in PC. Other maps nothing too crazy. Maybe the extreme rare case of 5 frames per second. Last time it happened was about a month ago during the mushroom map.... Public matches are no problem at all. The only problems i ever encounter is when i DC and that is CCP's fault not mine because i have over 100mbps and the router is wired to my ps3. Though it doesn't really matter if you have really good internet because the ps3 only takes 29mbps. My ps3 is the super slim. Supposedly the "worst" performing ps3 out of the three. The rest has been spoken already. Reformatting, re installing the client, less chat channels, deleting contacts/messages, you know the usual stuff. Also helps your ps3 for better performance. I experimented and tried many different things during that year to make this game work. As far as this goes.. this is the most performance you could suck out of this game. Would i spend the money as i did back then? no. Back then i had no idea this game would be canned at ff14. On the bright side i now have a decent monitor still nothing compared to those 144hz's ones but a 60hz with a 1ms imput lag is good enough for a console to handle. There is many more stuff to talk about that i did not wrote. Dust is such a strange game i tell ya. You do one thing and affects another. Words are hard
"You got lives in you, hard to kill. Storm, bullets, sand and wind, yet you still walk. For now. -Ulysses F:NV
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Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
1096
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Posted - 2015.03.27 04:48:00 -
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@kalente the problem im having has potential to be fixed. before hotfix echo, if i reset before a PC match, i generally wouldnt have any problems. of course, that should never be something id have to do to play a game. recently, i drop from 20 to 10 frames as soon as i step foot in the city.
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