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Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 2990	Posted - 2015.03.15 13:26:00 - [1] - Quote Ive been killing proto tanks all day long in my 500k tank :P poor guys wernt around in chrome where position was everything and you died in 3 hits :P ill give you a hint position + sica + dmg mods = dead proto tanks everywhere.... just flank and spank Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4217	Posted - 2015.03.15 13:35:00 - [2] - Quote They are not prototype tanks, you are killing basic++ Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 2990	Posted - 2015.03.15 13:38:00 - [3] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: They are not prototype tanks, you are killing basic++ Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 they ARE proto tanks :P they have the icon and naming scheme CK.0 / GK.0 for once they arnt specialised tanks and are actual proto tanks Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1872	Posted - 2015.03.15 13:44:00 - [4] - Quote Just because you see one and someone spent SP's to acquire one doesn't mean that they are a tanker , know how to set up their fits where they get the most from their mods , understand how to drive and know the terrain in case of trouble and just basically know what their doing . A lot of people went that route because it's something new and people flock to what's new until that newness wears off . I wouldn't brag about killing tanks because you have a lot of inexperienced drivers out there so it's no big whoop . Give it 4 to 5 months and then begin to talk . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 2990	Posted - 2015.03.15 13:52:00 - [5] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Just because you see one and someone spent SP's to acquire one doesn't mean that they are a tanker , know how to set up their fits where they get the most from their mods , understand how to drive and know the terrain in case of trouble and just basically know what their doing . A lot of people went that route because it's something new and people flock to what's new until that newness wears off . I wouldn't brag about killing tanks because you have a lot of inexperienced drivers out there so it's no big whoop . Give it 4 to 5 months and then begin to talk . Flank and spank works on anyone who doesnt have a dedicated navigator :P theres really nothing that can be done if i gain position on someone :P let the rain of the Chrome tankers begin again! Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1872	Posted - 2015.03.15 14:12:00 - [6] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Flank and spank works on anyone who doesnt have a dedicated navigator :P theres really nothing that can be done if i gain position on someone :P This could be said about anyone in-game , if your infantry or in a vehicle . Basics ... Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
Shley Ashes And the ButtPirates 191	Posted - 2015.03.15 14:29:00 - [7] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 OMG that disclaimer is going on a majority of my posts from now on ! For 21 day EveOnline trial https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=0f1324bf-679c-420a-b7ed-c181423c1369&action=buddy
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 2990	Posted - 2015.03.15 14:51:00 - [8] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Flank and spank works on anyone who doesnt have a dedicated navigator :P theres really nothing that can be done if i gain position on someone :P This could be said about anyone in-game , if your infantry or in a vehicle . Basics ... what i meant is that i usually have a gunner in my tank sitting in the map marking targets and watching for threats/killing AV any tanker who does not have such a helper is going to get instaganked. im just rolling around teaching the next generation of tankers the ways of Chromosome. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 1053	Posted - 2015.03.15 14:57:00 - [9] - Quote It's funny how madrugar can out rep railgun dps Caldari Hero Loyal To The State Mejt0 Sale List
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1774	Posted - 2015.03.15 15:00:00 - [10] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Flank and spank works on anyone who doesnt have a dedicated navigator :P theres really nothing that can be done if i gain position on someone :P This could be said about anyone in-game , if your infantry or in a vehicle . Basics ... what i meant is that i usually have a gunner in my tank sitting in the map marking targets and watching for threats/killing AV any tanker who does not have such a helper is going to get instaganked. im just rolling around teaching the next generation of tankers the ways of Chromosome. I look forward to engaging tou with my forge gun, and/or actual tanks. Carry on good sir. o7 Best Bombing platform:Cal-logi. 5x myos, red/green, fero, cpu-up, ishhives, REs REs, Freedom MD, AUR Thukkers from 1.2

Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 1054	Posted - 2015.03.15 15:02:00 - [11] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Flank and spank works on anyone who doesnt have a dedicated navigator :P theres really nothing that can be done if i gain position on someone :P This could be said about anyone in-game , if your infantry or in a vehicle . Basics ... what i meant is that i usually have a gunner in my tank sitting in the map marking targets and watching for threats/killing AV any tanker who does not have such a helper is going to get instaganked. im just rolling around teaching the next generation of tankers the ways of Chromosome. 2 tanks > tank + gunner. Caldari Hero Loyal To The State Mejt0 Sale List
Forced Death Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 143	Posted - 2015.03.15 15:04:00 - [12] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Ive been killing proto tanks all day long in my 500k tank :P poor guys wernt around in chrome where position was everything and you died in 3 hits :P ill give you a hint position + sica + dmg mods = dead proto tanks everywhere.... just flank and spank Are you one of those guys who were camping in the hills firing railguns all over the map TritusX
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 2993	Posted - 2015.03.15 15:10:00 - [13] - Quote Forced Death wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Ive been killing proto tanks all day long in my 500k tank :P poor guys wernt around in chrome where position was everything and you died in 3 hits :P ill give you a hint position + sica + dmg mods = dead proto tanks everywhere.... just flank and spank Are you one of those guys who were camping in the hills firing railguns all over the map im an old school tanker, hills, mountains, towers, and awkward positions ontop of buildings you diddnt know a tank could get to are where i was born :P my ideal fight is staying out of LOS while flanking the LONG way around and putting 3 shots into someone who diddnt even know there was another tank on the field. then quickly setting up for a position on their redline to wait for the inevitable tank #2 Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 2993	Posted - 2015.03.15 15:21:00 - [14] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Flank and spank works on anyone who doesnt have a dedicated navigator :P theres really nothing that can be done if i gain position on someone :P This could be said about anyone in-game , if your infantry or in a vehicle . Basics ... what i meant is that i usually have a gunner in my tank sitting in the map marking targets and watching for threats/killing AV any tanker who does not have such a helper is going to get instaganked. im just rolling around teaching the next generation of tankers the ways of Chromosome. 2 tanks > tank + gunner. a navi prevents you from being snuck up on, and 2 tanks is conspicuous. i go for strait ganks, not brawls. im likly to engage the rear tank and pop it and burn away, to hide and recall in the chaos. i engage when i see that the lead tank is in a position where he cant eassily do a 180 and just gun it at me, blaster tankers get greedy and are usually the lead tank so their partners make easy marks. in a situation like that though the followup is alot more risky, as once they know your there it gets ALOT more dangerous against a pair so i usually cut my losses and leave them wandering the map looking for me for half the game. This way they relax a little and i can squeeze a second gank in before the end of the match. Nothing infuriates tankers more than not being able to even the score. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
duster 35000 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 403	Posted - 2015.03.15 15:28:00 - [15] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Flank and spank works on anyone who doesnt have a dedicated navigator :P theres really nothing that can be done if i gain position on someone :P This could be said about anyone in-game , if your infantry or in a vehicle . Basics ... what i meant is that i usually have a gunner in my tank sitting in the map marking targets and watching for threats/killing AV any tanker who does not have such a helper is going to get instaganked. im just rolling around teaching the next generation of tankers the ways of Chromosome. 2 tanks > tank + gunner. a navi prevents you from being snuck up on, and 2 tanks is conspicuous. i go for strait ganks, not brawls. im likly to engage the rear tank and pop it and burn away, to hide and recall in the chaos. i engage when i see that the lead tank is in a position where he cant eassily do a 180 and just gun it at me, blaster tankers get greedy and are usually the lead tank so their partners make easy marks. in a situation like that though the followup is alot more risky, as once they know your there it gets ALOT more dangerous against a pair so i usually cut my losses and leave them wandering the map looking for me for half the game. This way they relax a little and i can squeeze a second gank in before the end of the match. Nothing infuriates tankers more than not being able to even the score. FTFY Molestia approved
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 2994	Posted - 2015.03.15 15:29:00 - [16] - Quote duster 35000 wrote: FTFY way to bring back my PTSD dude Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
duster 35000 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 403	Posted - 2015.03.15 15:33:00 - [17] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: duster 35000 wrote: FTFY way to bring back my PTSD dude HEY! LISTEN! I don't care. Molestia approved
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood RISE of LEGION 176	Posted - 2015.03.15 16:25:00 - [18] - Quote LOL tanks. When I run into the Occasional skilled one, i know I'm fighting a good fight. Prefer dropship on dropship... Far more interesting because good pilots are all that's left. Soon, there'll be good tank pilots roaming all over. Entering the void and becoming wind. Message for 1v1 air to air
Racro 01 Arifistan Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 516	Posted - 2015.03.15 16:30:00 - [19] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Flank and spank works on anyone who doesnt have a dedicated navigator :P theres really nothing that can be done if i gain position on someone :P This could be said about anyone in-game , if your infantry or in a vehicle . Basics ... what i meant is that i usually have a gunner in my tank sitting in the map marking targets and watching for threats/killing AV any tanker who does not have such a helper is going to get instaganked. im just rolling around teaching the next generation of tankers the ways of Chromosome. the downside to rail tanks...........your screwed once the blaster is up your ass.....literally 20% extra damage for shooting the rear befor my complex blaster mod...with that on theres 40% then add the fact the blaster gets +10 for hitting shields there's 50%..........pretty sure you sica will get spanked. also. theres this thing called tanking befor/since beta. having situational awerness and spoting threats/assuming where said threat is sitting. tankers don't need gunners to know where targets are. experience beats everything....... *Elite Gallenten Soldier*
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 2994	Posted - 2015.03.15 16:39:00 - [20] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Flank and spank works on anyone who doesnt have a dedicated navigator :P theres really nothing that can be done if i gain position on someone :P This could be said about anyone in-game , if your infantry or in a vehicle . Basics ... what i meant is that i usually have a gunner in my tank sitting in the map marking targets and watching for threats/killing AV any tanker who does not have such a helper is going to get instaganked. im just rolling around teaching the next generation of tankers the ways of Chromosome. the downside to rail tanks...........your screwed once the blaster is up your ass.....literally 20% extra damage for shooting the rear befor my complex blaster mod...with that on theres 40% then add the fact the blaster gets +10 for hitting shields there's 50%..........pretty sure you sica will get spanked. also. theres this thing called tanking befor/since beta. having situational awerness and spoting threats/assuming where said threat is sitting. tankers don't need gunners to know where targets are. experience beats everything....... the sica doesnt get shot.... neither does the super soma :P (need that one for tower ganks as it has a lower gun depression :P) my favorite targets are tripple rep maddys as they get 2 shotted Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost

Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9901	Posted - 2015.03.15 16:39:00 - [21] - Quote A Heatsink will do you much better on a blaster tank than a damage mod. It only increases it by about 20 damage per shot while a sink allows you to make up more than the damage before overheat kicks in. With blaster tanks your main ally is you being, agile and keeping the pressure on them. When engaging a tank you will overheat before you can finish him, the sink eliminates that problem. *As long as 5/6 (83%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
Lupus Wolf Minmatar Republic 162	Posted - 2015.03.15 17:37:00 - [22] - Quote Shamarskii Simon wrote: LOL tanks. When I run into the Occasional skilled one, i know I'm fighting a good fight. Prefer dropship on dropship... Far more interesting because good pilots are all that's left. Soon, there'll be good tank pilots roaming all over. HEY!! I'm not good and I still fly! Redundant Usernames FTW Neigh! Incubi RULE! Pythons suck. 30% Logi, 30% Tanker, 40% Pilot
DUST Fiend 16073	Posted - 2015.03.15 17:39:00 - [23] - Quote Lupus Wolf wrote: Shamarskii Simon wrote: LOL tanks. When I run into the Occasional skilled one, i know I'm fighting a good fight. Prefer dropship on dropship... Far more interesting because good pilots are all that's left. Soon, there'll be good tank pilots roaming all over. HEY!! I'm not good and I still fly! I'm not bothering to fly till Dropships get the vehicle pass. Till then, I'll troll around on the ground as a teribad tanker. Contests, Sales, Writing etc Fly Safe
Alena Ventrallis Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 2713	Posted - 2015.03.15 17:43:00 - [24] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: It's funny how madrugar can out rep railgun dps Some math. Proto railgun has a refire rate of 2.1 seconds and 1885 damage. with 109% damage bonus on armor (taken from in-game observations) that damage rises to 2054.65 damage per hit. divided by the refire rate of 2.1, we get 978.4 DPS on armor before damage mods. Please build me a Maddie in protofits with over 978 ehp/s recovery. Listen to my muscle memory Contemplate what I've been clinging to Forty-six and two ahead of me
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 1049	Posted - 2015.03.15 17:49:00 - [25] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Mejt0 wrote: It's funny how madrugar can out rep railgun dps Some math. Proto railgun has a refire rate of 2.1 seconds and 1885 damage. with 109% damage bonus on armor (taken from in-game observations) that damage rises to 2054.65 damage per hit. divided by the refire rate of 2.1, we get 978.4 DPS on armor before damage mods. Please build me a Maddie in protofits with over 978 ehp/s recovery. Hardeners reduce damage by 25% so that becomes 730 hp/s... GimmeDatSuhWeet isk We found a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank, all hail pope redblood the 6th
duster 35000 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 406	Posted - 2015.03.15 18:53:00 - [26] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Mejt0 wrote: It's funny how madrugar can out rep railgun dps Some math. Proto railgun has a refire rate of 2.1 seconds and 1885 damage. with 109% damage bonus on armor (taken from in-game observations) that damage rises to 2054.65 damage per hit. divided by the refire rate of 2.1, we get 978.4 DPS on armor before damage mods. Please build me a Maddie in protofits with over 978 ehp/s recovery. Hardeners reduce damage by 25% so that becomes 730 hp/s... Actually, it's 40%, plus reps... Molestia approved
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17666	Posted - 2015.03.15 20:13:00 - [27] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Just because you see one and someone spent SP's to acquire one doesn't mean that they are a tanker , know how to set up their fits where they get the most from their mods , understand how to drive and know the terrain in case of trouble and just basically know what their doing . A lot of people went that route because it's something new and people flock to what's new until that newness wears off . I wouldn't brag about killing tanks because you have a lot of inexperienced drivers out there so it's no big whoop . Give it 4 to 5 months and then begin to talk . Flank and spank works on anyone who doesnt have a dedicated navigator :P theres really nothing that can be done if i gain position on someone :P let the rain of the Chrome tankers begin again! That's true the Navigator passenger is a beautiful role that basically ensures any fight against a greater number of tanks is almost certainly your victory. However I have to admit that even my Proto HAV don't really feel all that Proto..... I'm more a fan of using the Eco-Tanks fits and have and winning fights always comes down to smarts instead of pressing into a direct fight. Now I don't know about Shield Tankers but either they must all be fitting their HAV wrong or they are simply new and not very confident but I am seeing some weird fits that never hold up well in a fight. I'll be skilling into them this evening to complete the HAV skill tree to provide some feed back for Rattati. However point is Flank and Gank doesn't all ways work, especially with cheap tanks like the Sica Kaisar....especially if your opponent is looking to do the same thing. Raphael: I'm warning you. Do not leave me here. I will find you. Castiel: Maybe one day. Today you're my little bitch
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1152	Posted - 2015.03.15 20:24:00 - [28] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Flank and spank works on anyone who doesnt have a dedicated navigator :P theres really nothing that can be done if i gain position on someone :P This could be said about anyone in-game , if your infantry or in a vehicle . Basics ... what i meant is that i usually have a gunner in my tank sitting in the map marking targets and watching for threats/killing AV any tanker who does not have such a helper is going to get instaganked. im just rolling around teaching the next generation of tankers the ways of Chromosome. 2 tanks > tank + gunner. a navi prevents you from being snuck up on, and 2 tanks is conspicuous. i go for strait ganks, not brawls. im likly to engage the rear tank and pop it and burn away, to hide and recall in the chaos. i engage when i see that the lead tank is in a position where he cant eassily do a 180 and just gun it at me, blaster tankers get greedy and are usually the lead tank so their partners make easy marks. in a situation like that though the followup is alot more risky, as once they know your there it gets ALOT more dangerous against a pair so i usually cut my losses and leave them wandering the map looking for me for half the game. This way they relax a little and i can squeeze a second gank in before the end of the match. Nothing infuriates tankers more than not being able to even the score. Glad to see my tactics are in line with someone else's. though I typically use armor tanks so I at least was limited in my DPS. That and the fact that I run solo make me not nearly as successful as I could be. I found out today that I am rather rusty at tanking though as armor tanks have been swarm food the last few months. My vehicle alt will be getting a lot of work the next few months I am sure. /Faceplam
xavier zor 0uter.Heaven 884	Posted - 2015.03.15 23:04:00 - [29] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: It's funny how madrugar can out rep railgun dps with the new proto tanks? retired stabbed musturd, duna, radar, tibs returning December 2015 yay
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 4162	Posted - 2015.03.15 23:22:00 - [30] - Quote Can't deny the existence of PRO tanks, but can't even say they are so much better than standard or advanced ones. Pimp my Barge

shaman oga Dead Man's Game 4162	Posted - 2015.03.15 23:28:00 - [31] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: 2 tanks > tank + gunner. False, i have killed twin tanks before (i don't play with my alt a lot, few encounters). But in current state of things is much more difficult, tanks scan other tanks at 50 meters, you can't even set up a good ambush. Pimp my Barge
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17670	Posted - 2015.03.15 23:32:00 - [32] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Mejt0 wrote: 2 tanks > tank + gunner. False, i have killed twin tanks before (i don't play with my alt a lot, few encounters). But in current state of things is much more difficult, tanks scan other tanks at 50 meters, you can't even set up a good ambush. Agreed with shaman on this one. Raphael: I'm warning you. Do not leave me here. I will find you. Castiel: Maybe one day. Today you're my little bitch
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3613	Posted - 2015.03.16 00:32:00 - [33] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Ive been killing proto tanks all day long in my 500k tank :P ...position + sica + dmg mods = dead proto tanks everywhere.... How is that possibly costing 500k unless you're using a proto turret? This is akin to using a thale on a starter fit, or a militia suit with a six kin. Anywho, I approve, you're using good tactics and have created a WWII Tank Destroyer, but for only 100K more your survivability would go through the roof compared to now. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 1059	Posted - 2015.03.16 01:26:00 - [34] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: theres this thing called tanking befor/since beta. having situational awerness and spoting threats/assuming where said threat is sitting. tankers don't need gunners to know where targets are. experience beats everything....... my favorite targets are tripple rep maddys as they get 2 shotted Have to agree. Experience > everything [eg. gunner using a map] About maddys. Tripple rep madrugars also have a hardener, dmg mod and nitro. 400+ reps and more. Caldari Hero Loyal To The State Mejt0 Sale List
Raiden246 Raven Industries GmbH 60	Posted - 2015.03.16 01:28:00 - [35] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: They are not prototype tanks, you are killing basic++ Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 they ARE proto tanks :P they have the icon and naming scheme CK.0 / GK.0 for once they arnt specialised tanks and are actual proto tanks I believe you mean Cv.0* and Gv.0* good sir Started playing 1/26/13 -Quafe Ambassador
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 1060	Posted - 2015.03.16 01:39:00 - [36] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: A Heatsink will do you much better on a blaster tank than a damage mod. It only increases it by about 20 damage per shot while a sink allows you to make up more than the damage before overheat kicks in. With blaster tanks your main ally is you being, agile and keeping the pressure on them. When engaging a tank you will overheat before you can finish him, the sink eliminates that problem. Wrong. Dmg mod > heat sink on blaster Without heat sink you can shoot 31 bullets for 5 seconds. Blaster dps with dmg mod : 178 * 1.2 = 213.6 213.6 * 31 = 6621.6 6621.6 / 5 = 1324.32 dps Now with heat sink. You can shoot 52 bullets for 8.3 seconds. 178 * 52 = 9256 9256 / 8.3 = 1115.18 Not only dmg mod is easier to fit but you'll also have higher dps and more dmg within one clip. Even more. Blaster has only 75 ammo in one clip so using a heat sink is even more pointless. Caldari Hero Loyal To The State Mejt0 Sale List
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17673	Posted - 2015.03.16 01:48:00 - [37] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: A Heatsink will do you much better on a blaster tank than a damage mod. It only increases it by about 20 damage per shot while a sink allows you to make up more than the damage before overheat kicks in. With blaster tanks your main ally is you being, agile and keeping the pressure on them. When engaging a tank you will overheat before you can finish him, the sink eliminates that problem. Wrong. Dmg mod > heat sink on blaster Without heat sink you can shoot 31 bullets for 5 seconds. Blaster dps with dmg mod : 178 * 1.2 = 213.6 213.6 * 31 = 6621.6 6621.6 / 5 = 1324.32 dps Now with heat sink. You can shoot 52 bullets for 8.3 seconds. 178 * 52 = 9256 9256 / 8.3 = 1115.18 Not only dmg mod is easier to fit but you'll also have higher dps and more dmg within one clip. Even more. Blaster has only 75 ammo in one clip so using a heat sink is even more pointless. DPS isn't the issue being able to fire longer, apply more damage total, and better control your shots and heat is a significant advantage over an additional 210 DPS. Regardless......while having one is good having both is simply better, drop those scans and go to town of those poor suckers. Raphael: I'm warning you. Do not leave me here. I will find you. Castiel: Maybe one day. Today you're my little bitch
duster 35000 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 406	Posted - 2015.03.16 01:51:00 - [38] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: theres this thing called tanking befor/since beta. having situational awerness and spoting threats/assuming where said threat is sitting. tankers don't need gunners to know where targets are. experience beats everything....... my favorite targets are tripple rep maddys as they get 2 shotted Have to agree. Experience > everything [eg. gunner using a map] About maddys. Tripple rep madrugars also have a hardener, dmg mod and nitro. 400+ reps and more. Or, double rep, plate, hardener. Molestia approved
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 1060	Posted - 2015.03.16 01:54:00 - [39] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Mejt0 wrote: It's funny how madrugar can out rep railgun dps Some math. Proto railgun has a refire rate of 2.1 seconds and 1885 damage. with 109% damage bonus on armor (taken from in-game observations) that damage rises to 2054.65 damage per hit. divided by the refire rate of 2.1, we get 978.4 DPS on armor before damage mods. Please build me a Maddie in protofits with over 978 ehp/s recovery. I'll do math later cuz i don't remember exact numbers on railgun. But i'll comment your post. Using your numbers : 978 * 0.6 [hardener] = 586.8 586.8 - 400 [1 second of reps] = 186.8 dps But that's not it. Your numbers are wrong. Dmg is incorrect. First shot has charge time of 1.95s, every other after that has 1.6. Currently you have to stack dmg mods. You also can't miss, cuz missing a shot = enemy will recover too much armor. Caldari Hero Loyal To The State Mejt0 Sale List
danthrax martin Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 320	Posted - 2015.03.16 02:08:00 - [40] - Quote I have yet to take on a pro tank. Every time I've tried this week, dust fiend seems to be overhead trying to blow my @ss up.I Suicidal A/V Moron Future Corporate Raider 80+mil SP

Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 2999	Posted - 2015.03.16 10:11:00 - [41] - Quote danthrax martin wrote: I have yet to take on a pro tank. Every time I've tried this week, dust fiend seems to be overhead trying to blow my @ss up.I just stand in the middle of the map with a becons :P theres a vid he posted of me nuking his dropship 3 times in a game with it :P (due to a bug it shows as "large blaster instalation" in the killfeed" for extra lulz as he cant figure out how a large blaster is killing him) Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 1309	Posted - 2015.03.16 10:28:00 - [42] - Quote I have a tanker with 26 mil. I cant tank to save my life lol Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 2999	Posted - 2015.03.16 10:55:00 - [43] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: I have a tanker with 26 mil. I cant tank to save my life lol just dont use proto tanks :P or your likely to get eaten by the super sica Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4228	Posted - 2015.03.16 12:55:00 - [44] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: They are not prototype tanks, you are killing basic++ Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 they ARE proto tanks :P they have the icon and naming scheme CK.0 / GK.0 for once they arnt specialised tanks and are actual proto tanks Compare them to basic and advanaced and prototype basic dropsuits. Do they both increase in PG/CPU? Yes Do they both get a increase in slot layout? No, vehicles do not Why does the basic HAV skill cost a x8 when basic dropsuits are a x4? Just because it is called CK.0 does not make it proto If a dog is born in a stable does that make it a horse? Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3002	Posted - 2015.03.16 13:10:00 - [45] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: They are not prototype tanks, you are killing basic++ Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 they ARE proto tanks :P they have the icon and naming scheme CK.0 / GK.0 for once they arnt specialised tanks and are actual proto tanks Compare them to basic and advanaced and prototype basic dropsuits. Do they both increase in PG/CPU? Yes Do they both get a increase in slot layout? No, vehicles do not Why does the basic HAV skill cost a x8 when basic dropsuits are a x4? Just because it is called CK.0 does not make it proto If a dog is born in a stable does that make it a horse? Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 Idealy dropsuits would conform to the new standard set by tanks, not the other way around. also that was a terrible argument. the name scheme and the gold market marking DO in fact make it proto reguardless of where the tank was born. a CV.0 gunnlogi is a standard++ tank in the same way a CK.0 assault is a standard ++ dropsuit. as to the reason your argument was terrible, think of dog as a proto tank and the stable as slot loadout. Any argument that can be fliped like that and carry the same amount of argumenative weight is a terrible argument. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4228	Posted - 2015.03.16 13:15:00 - [46] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: They are not prototype tanks, you are killing basic++ Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 they ARE proto tanks :P they have the icon and naming scheme CK.0 / GK.0 for once they arnt specialised tanks and are actual proto tanks Compare them to basic and advanaced and prototype basic dropsuits. Do they both increase in PG/CPU? Yes Do they both get a increase in slot layout? No, vehicles do not Why does the basic HAV skill cost a x8 when basic dropsuits are a x4? Just because it is called CK.0 does not make it proto If a dog is born in a stable does that make it a horse? Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 Idealy dropsuits would conform to the new standard set by tanks, not the other way around. also that was a terrible argument. the name scheme and the gold market marking DO in fact make it proto reguardless of where the tank was born. a CV.0 gunnlogi is a standard++ tank in the same way a CK.0 assault is a standard ++ dropsuit. Wrong Dropsuits havn't changed one bit, vehicles have been classed as 'tiercided' all this time yet dropsuits havn't changed once. A CV.0 Gunnlogi is basic++ but a CK.0 Assault is a specialized class plus for an x8 skill the assault class has bonuses attached to it. The basic++ Gunnlogi does not improve in slot layout and all other prototype dropsuits in the game do. Once again a dog born in a stable does not make it a horse no matter how hard you try, just because a HAV has a 0 at the end of it name does not make it a prototype. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3002	Posted - 2015.03.16 13:24:00 - [47] - Quote Once again a dog (proto tank) born in a stable(with the same slot layout as standard) does not make it a horse (standard tank) no matter how hard you try. change to a different argument. you also literally picked the ONE difference out of the MANY similarities to base your entire argument around. if we are going by weight we have for proto: same name scheme as per regular STD/ADV/PRO pattern same market icons as per regular STD/ADV/PRO pattern increase in CPU/PG as per regular STD/ADV/PRO pattern CCP named it as prototype gear for standard++ no increase in slot layout past militia by that argument the minmatar basic medium frame MK.0 proto suit isnt prototype as well due to it having less fitting slots than the MK.0 assault and also falls into the catagory of standard ++ Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4228	Posted - 2015.03.16 13:30:00 - [48] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Once again a dog (proto tank) born in a stable(with the same slot layout as standard) does not make it a horse (standard tank) no matter how hard you try. change to a different argument. you also literally picked the ONE difference out of the MANY similarities to base your entire argument around. if we are going by weight we have for proto: same name scheme as per regular STD/ADV/PRO pattern same market icons as per regular STD/ADV/PRO pattern increase in CPU/PG as per regular STD/ADV/PRO pattern CCP named it as prototype gear for standard++ no increase in slot layout past militia by that argument the minmatar basic medium frame MK.0 proto suit isnt prototype as well due to it having less fitting slots than the MK.0 assault and also falls into the catagory of standard ++ (or at least is closer to standard++ than prototype in a world where you are correct) MK.0 basic frame prototype suit increases in PG/CPU and slot layout when compared to the standard basic frame so it is prototype. The HAV does not increase in slot layout other suits do. It is not prototype. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3002	Posted - 2015.03.16 13:36:00 - [49] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Once again a dog (proto tank) born in a stable(with the same slot layout as standard) does not make it a horse (standard tank) no matter how hard you try. change to a different argument. you also literally picked the ONE difference out of the MANY similarities to base your entire argument around. if we are going by weight we have for proto: same name scheme as per regular STD/ADV/PRO pattern same market icons as per regular STD/ADV/PRO pattern increase in CPU/PG as per regular STD/ADV/PRO pattern CCP named it as prototype gear for standard++ no increase in slot layout past militia by that argument the minmatar basic medium frame MK.0 proto suit isnt prototype as well due to it having less fitting slots than the MK.0 assault and also falls into the catagory of standard ++ (or at least is closer to standard++ than prototype in a world where you are correct) MK.0 basic frame prototype suit increases in PG/CPU and slot layout when compared to the standard basic frame so it is prototype. The HAV does not increase in slot layout same as any other suit. It is not prototype. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 Its reached the point where you are not expanding your explanation of your position not countering my arguments not even referancing my arguments on anything but a superficial level now your just simply repeating your position endlessly like a mantra, not expanding, explaining, or reinforcing your position in any way, while at the same time not even attempting to adress my positions. Simply stating something over and over again does not make it true, one must actually provide evidence to suppport said argument and act to defend it when said argument and evidence is challenged. this debate has reached its final resting place, as it apears that you no longer have anything additional to add to the discussion. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4230	Posted - 2015.03.16 13:43:00 - [50] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Once again a dog (proto tank) born in a stable(with the same slot layout as standard) does not make it a horse (standard tank) no matter how hard you try. change to a different argument. you also literally picked the ONE difference out of the MANY similarities to base your entire argument around. if we are going by weight we have for proto: same name scheme as per regular STD/ADV/PRO pattern same market icons as per regular STD/ADV/PRO pattern increase in CPU/PG as per regular STD/ADV/PRO pattern CCP named it as prototype gear for standard++ no increase in slot layout past militia by that argument the minmatar basic medium frame MK.0 proto suit isnt prototype as well due to it having less fitting slots than the MK.0 assault and also falls into the catagory of standard ++ (or at least is closer to standard++ than prototype in a world where you are correct) MK.0 basic frame prototype suit increases in PG/CPU and slot layout when compared to the standard basic frame so it is prototype. The HAV does not increase in slot layout same as any other suit. It is not prototype. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 Its reached the point where you are not expanding your explanation of your position not countering my arguments not even referancing my arguments on anything but a superficial level now your just simply repeating your position endlessly like a mantra, not expanding, explaining, or reinforcing your position in any way, while at the same time not even attempting to adress my positions. Simply stating something over and over again does not make it true, one must actually provide evidence to suppport said argument and act to defend it when said argument and evidence is challenged. this debate has reached its final resting place, as it apears that you no longer have anything additional to add to the discussion. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is a well reasoned argument and is related to DUST514 I countered your tiercide argument. I countered your MK.0 assault and basic suit argument. Just because something has the same icon does not make it prototype when the actual stats of the hull does not follow the prototype standard which is more PG/CPU and an increased slot layout for ever tier you go up. Prototype increase in PG/CPU and slot layout, that defines if it is prototype or not, it needs to have the whole package not bits and pieces. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''

Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3002	Posted - 2015.03.16 13:45:00 - [51] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: it needs to have the whole package not bits and pieces. please provide evidence to support that the above claim is true Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4231	Posted - 2015.03.16 13:50:00 - [52] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: it needs to have the whole package not bits and pieces. please provide evidence to support that the above claim is true Do HAVs increase in slot layout as you go up tiers? Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3002	Posted - 2015.03.16 13:52:00 - [53] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: it needs to have the whole package not bits and pieces. please provide evidence to support that the above claim is true Do HAVs increase in slot layout as you go up tiers? you may not use your argument as evidence that your argument is true, its like deviding by zero without using calculas, it just doesnt work. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4231	Posted - 2015.03.16 14:17:00 - [54] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: it needs to have the whole package not bits and pieces. please provide evidence to support that the above claim is true Do HAVs increase in slot layout as you go up tiers? you may not use your argument as evidence that your argument is true, its like deviding by zero without using calculas, it just doesnt work. its also the same as saying "unicorns exsist because a unicorn told me so" Dropsuits from basic to advanced to prototype increase in slot layout. Now do vehicles increase in slot layout as you go up tiers? It is a simple question, yes or no. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3002	Posted - 2015.03.16 14:20:00 - [55] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: it needs to have the whole package not bits and pieces. please provide evidence to support that the above claim is true Do HAVs increase in slot layout as you go up tiers? you may not use your argument as evidence that your argument is true, its like deviding by zero without using calculas, it just doesnt work. its also the same as saying "unicorns exsist because a unicorn told me so" Dropsuits from basic to advanced to prototype increase in slot layout. Now do vehicles increase in slot layout as you go up tiers? It is a simple question, yes or no. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 what does the tank having the same slot layout from STD to PRO have to do with anything. im asking you to prove that that means its not proto. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
General Mosquito Kinsho Swords Caldari State 41	Posted - 2015.03.16 14:21:00 - [56] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Now do vehicles increase in slot layout as you go up tiers? It is a simple question, yes or no. Do dropsuits come with three turrets? Apples to oranges. General Butt Naked - Biomassed The Attorney General - Biomassed when unbanned Only 9 more alts to go.
DarthJT5 Random Gunz 326	Posted - 2015.03.16 14:25:00 - [57] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: it needs to have the whole package not bits and pieces. please provide evidence to support that the above claim is true Do HAVs increase in slot layout as you go up tiers? you may not use your argument as evidence that your argument is true, its like deviding by zero without using calculas, it just doesnt work. its also the same as saying "unicorns exsist because a unicorn told me so" Dropsuits from basic to advanced to prototype increase in slot layout. Now do vehicles increase in slot layout as you go up tiers? It is a simple question, yes or no. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 Why does it matter? 5/2 is probably the best your going to get for a slot layout on a Gunny, which is what it has. If there was slot progression, the only thing that would happen is that ADV and STD would LOSE slots, while Proto would remain unchanged. Why would you want that? Please, explain. On the skill thing, Rattati has already talked about that and we will be getting racial skills, sooooo..... Point is invalid. Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta. Veteran Python Pilot for 1 year. The awnser is always XT missiles....
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3002	Posted - 2015.03.16 14:40:00 - [58] - Quote in short please PROVE that not having an increasing number of slots from basic to pro means that it isnt proto. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4231	Posted - 2015.03.16 14:54:00 - [59] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: in short please PROVE that not having an increasing number of slots from basic to pro means that it isnt proto. Already proved it. Dropsuits from basic to advanced to prototype increase in slots, vehicles do not. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3002	Posted - 2015.03.16 14:56:00 - [60] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: in short please PROVE that not having an increasing number of slots from basic to pro means that it isnt proto. Already proved it. Dropsuits from basic to advanced to prototype increase in slots, vehicles do not. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 that just proves dropsuits have different slot layouts per tier, it does NOT mean that the proto tank isnt a proto tank becuase it doesnt follow that pattern. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost

Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4231	Posted - 2015.03.16 15:08:00 - [61] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: in short please PROVE that not having an increasing number of slots from basic to pro means that it isnt proto. Already proved it. Dropsuits from basic to advanced to prototype increase in slots, vehicles do not. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 that just proves dropsuits have different slot layouts per tier, it does NOT mean that the proto tank isnt a proto tank becuase it doesnt follow that pattern. Nope All suits increase in slots from tier to tier. Prototype has followed this method for years now with dropsuits. Vehicles have always been left behind, only the Sagaris and Surya could be called advanced but they required the Marauder skill to be trained and had an extra slot and HP over the standard HAV since they were specalized so really would they be a standard level vehicle in a specalized class? Vehicles are tiercided and with tiercide there is no basic/advanced and prototype supposedly yet they keep tiercide and just duplicate a vehicle another 2 times with more PG/CPU and slap on adv/pro on the hulls with a gold X and 0 at the end. When i deploy a Madrugar GA.0 i know it is not prototype. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3002	Posted - 2015.03.16 15:11:00 - [62] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: in short please PROVE that not having an increasing number of slots from basic to pro means that it isnt proto. Already proved it. Dropsuits from basic to advanced to prototype increase in slots, vehicles do not. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 that just proves dropsuits have different slot layouts per tier, it does NOT mean that the proto tank isnt a proto tank becuase it doesnt follow that pattern. Nope All suits increase in slots from tier to tier. Prototype has followed this method for years now with dropsuits. Vehicles have always been left behind, only the Sagaris and Surya could be called advanced but they required the Marauder skill to be trained and had an extra slot and HP over the standard HAV since they were specalized so really would they be a standard level vehicle in a specalized class? Vehicles are tiercided and with tiercide there is no basic/advanced and prototype supposedly yet they keep tiercide and just duplicate a vehicle another 2 times with more PG/CPU and slap on adv/pro on the hulls with a gold X and 0 at the end. When i deploy a Madrugar GA.0 i know it is not prototype. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 ASSUMING YOU ARE CORRECT (wich you have not proven....) that makes the gunnlogi Cv-1 a prototype - - tank due to slot layout rather than the gunnlogi Cv.0 a standard++ Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 4231	Posted - 2015.03.16 15:13:00 - [63] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: in short please PROVE that not having an increasing number of slots from basic to pro means that it isnt proto. Already proved it. Dropsuits from basic to advanced to prototype increase in slots, vehicles do not. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 that just proves dropsuits have different slot layouts per tier, it does NOT mean that the proto tank isnt a proto tank becuase it doesnt follow that pattern. Nope All suits increase in slots from tier to tier. Prototype has followed this method for years now with dropsuits. Vehicles have always been left behind, only the Sagaris and Surya could be called advanced but they required the Marauder skill to be trained and had an extra slot and HP over the standard HAV since they were specalized so really would they be a standard level vehicle in a specalized class? Vehicles are tiercided and with tiercide there is no basic/advanced and prototype supposedly yet they keep tiercide and just duplicate a vehicle another 2 times with more PG/CPU and slap on adv/pro on the hulls with a gold X and 0 at the end. When i deploy a Madrugar GA.0 i know it is not prototype. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 ASSUMING YOU ARE CORRECT (wich you have not proven....) that makes the gunnlogi Cv-1 a prototype - - tank due to slot layout rather than the gunnlogi Cv.0 a standard++ Prototype has the best slot layout of all suits. Vehicles do not follow this rule. But if you want to keep calling a dog a horse keep going. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3002	Posted - 2015.03.16 15:15:00 - [64] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Prototype has the best slot layout of all suits. Vehicles do not follow this rule. But if you want to keep calling a dog a horse keep going. Disclaimer: The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 AAAAND where done here, i made my case to the masses ill leave it for them to decide. im calling the proto tank a proto tank.... yoru the one insisting that the proto tank labled proto, with the shiney gold proto logo is a horse. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Aidualc LATINOS KILLERS CORP Dark Taboo 106	Posted - 2015.03.16 15:39:00 - [65] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: ill give you a hint position + sica + dmg mods = dead proto tanks everywhere.... Redline tanker... lol -- LKC -- Tomate Pote --
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3003	Posted - 2015.03.16 15:40:00 - [66] - Quote Aidualc wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: ill give you a hint position + sica + dmg mods = dead proto tanks everywhere.... Redline tanker... lol only if you mean THEIR redline :P its a gank tank, i dont sit in it all game, i pulll it out and ambush then put it away Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 3071	Posted - 2015.03.16 16:35:00 - [67] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Ive been killing proto tanks all day long in my 500k tank :P poor guys wernt around in chrome where position was everything and you died in 3 hits :P ill give you a hint position + sica + dmg mods = dead proto tanks everywhere.... just flank and spank Good luck Nope. Confirming that pilot input is not, and never was, valued. - Breakin Stuff
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 515	Posted - 2015.03.17 06:41:00 - [68] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Flank and spank works on anyone who doesnt have a dedicated navigator :P theres really nothing that can be done if i gain position on someone :P This could be said about anyone in-game , if your infantry or in a vehicle . Basics ... what i meant is that i usually have a gunner in my tank sitting in the map marking targets and watching for threats/killing AV any tanker who does not have such a helper is going to get instaganked. im just rolling around teaching the next generation of tankers the ways of Chromosome. I for one am looking for folks to tank with. I'd like to tank with you. I decided last week it's time to team up for tanking. Death is a serious business. So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17717	Posted - 2015.03.17 06:48:00 - [69] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Flank and spank works on anyone who doesnt have a dedicated navigator :P theres really nothing that can be done if i gain position on someone :P This could be said about anyone in-game , if your infantry or in a vehicle . Basics ... what i meant is that i usually have a gunner in my tank sitting in the map marking targets and watching for threats/killing AV any tanker who does not have such a helper is going to get instaganked. im just rolling around teaching the next generation of tankers the ways of Chromosome. I for one am looking for folks to tank with. I'd like to tank with you. I decided last week it's time to team up for tanking. Were rolling 3 tanks in a squad right now. Raphael: I'm warning you. Do not leave me here. I will find you. Castiel: Maybe one day. Today you're my little bitch


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