DUST Search - Buff the Cloak

Georgia Xavier wrote:

Timtron Victory wrote:

Georgia Xavier wrote:

Timtron Victory wrote:

Georgia Xavier wrote:

think of it lore-wise. Cloaking allows the refraction of light making you "invisible". Now if you move,light refracts in all kinds of directions making you blue!

In all seriousness though you can't be fully invisible. Yes yes I know we're in a space age shooter that allows us to fire plasma and lasers but its physically impossible to be fully invisible

Its "physically" impossible to die and respawn a few seconds later Shocked

Well it is your clone remember? when you die there is a countdown "clone termination imminent". so when you spawn,its a new clone! or so I think how it goes

I was trying to point to the fact that you immortal in this game. Being invisible should not be impossible.

I personally will prefer if the HUD or whatever its called doesnt turn red when you have it on a cloaked clone.
Some maps make cloaking useless

or have a red arrow on your head? I'll admit it does give off cloakers sometimes, you have a point.Huge open maps will not hide anyone though

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SILENTSAM 69 SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION 764	Posted - 2015.03.14 21:55:00 - [1] - Quote The cloak makes you shine bright and blue on the screen. Not sure why the cloak makes you stand out so much. Then to top it off it takes a stupid amount of time to pull out anything else. The nerf was way too much. You are essentially dead when someone sees your bright blue body running around and kills you before you can even try to pull out your weapon. Everyone who wanted it nerfed only wanted it because they can not be bothered to pay attention to the screen, or were just upset because they died a couple times and freaked out about their KDR. The Scout has very little reason to use the Cloak since it doesn't even cloak you. People have learned to look for that obvious bright blue shimmer and kill you quickly knowing you can not shoot back. At the very least get rid of the blue lights that shine so bright while you move.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 3808	Posted - 2015.03.14 22:02:00 - [2] - Quote Sorry to disagree...cloak is in the best place that it's ever been. People are actually using them for what tthey're supposed to be and it's effective at that. Players still cloak and disappear right in front of you and then around a cover. So, it still works. Shield tanking is hard mode /period. > Check RND out here
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 1455	Posted - 2015.03.14 22:21:00 - [3] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Sorry to disagree...cloak is in the best place that it's ever been. People are actually using them for what tthey're supposed to be and it's effective at that. Players still cloak and disappear right in front of you and then around a cover. So, it still works. Can you please share the link where it says what they are supposed to be? Thanks "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 961	Posted - 2015.03.14 22:26:00 - [4] - Quote There's just one thing about the cloak that needs to be tweaked: Remove the switching delay when not cloaked, there is no reason for it on that occasion. Found my favorite DJ - ATB
Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 438	Posted - 2015.03.14 22:32:00 - [5] - Quote The delay is the most clumsy/frustrating mechanic in the game the amount of times i've used the weapon wheel to select nova knives only to not actually switch to them yet still decloak is far too high ADS Ramming Revenge! Plasma Cannon Rampage
Foo Fighting Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 207	Posted - 2015.03.14 22:34:00 - [6] - Quote The only issue, I believe, is that the decloak delay also applies to equipment which is a slight pain when deploying uplinks - having said that I think it should apply to remotes but only because the remote activation delay is broke.
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 77	Posted - 2015.03.14 22:34:00 - [7] - Quote think of it lore-wise. Cloaking allows the refraction of light making you "invisible". Now if you move,light refracts in all kinds of directions making you blue! In all seriousness though you can't be fully invisible. Yes yes I know we're in a space age shooter that allows us to fire plasma and lasers but its physically impossible to be fully invisible How many amarr does it take to change a light bulb? none. The minmatar do it for them
Timtron Victory Horizons' Edge 436	Posted - 2015.03.14 22:45:00 - [8] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: think of it lore-wise. Cloaking allows the refraction of light making you "invisible". Now if you move,light refracts in all kinds of directions making you blue! In all seriousness though you can't be fully invisible. Yes yes I know we're in a space age shooter that allows us to fire plasma and lasers but its physically impossible to be fully invisible Its "physically" impossible to die and respawn a few seconds later RATATATAGäó CCP WhoeverGäó Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 3809	Posted - 2015.03.14 22:50:00 - [9] - Quote I have no problems with the delay. You just have to time it right. Shield tanking is hard mode /period. > Check RND out here
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 77	Posted - 2015.03.14 23:02:00 - [10] - Quote Timtron Victory wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: think of it lore-wise. Cloaking allows the refraction of light making you "invisible". Now if you move,light refracts in all kinds of directions making you blue! In all seriousness though you can't be fully invisible. Yes yes I know we're in a space age shooter that allows us to fire plasma and lasers but its physically impossible to be fully invisible Its "physically" impossible to die and respawn a few seconds later Well it is your clone remember? when you die there is a countdown "clone termination imminent". so when you spawn,its a new clone! or so I think how it goes How many amarr does it take to change a light bulb? none. The minmatar do it for them
Timtron Victory Horizons' Edge 436	Posted - 2015.03.14 23:05:00 - [11] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: Timtron Victory wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: think of it lore-wise. Cloaking allows the refraction of light making you "invisible". Now if you move,light refracts in all kinds of directions making you blue! In all seriousness though you can't be fully invisible. Yes yes I know we're in a space age shooter that allows us to fire plasma and lasers but its physically impossible to be fully invisible Its "physically" impossible to die and respawn a few seconds later Well it is your clone remember? when you die there is a countdown "clone termination imminent". so when you spawn,its a new clone! or so I think how it goes I was trying to point to the fact that you immortal in this game. Being invisible should not be impossible. I personally will prefer if the HUD or whatever its called doesnt turn red when you have it on a cloaked clone. Some maps make cloaking useless RATATATAGäó CCP WhoeverGäó Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 77	Posted - 2015.03.14 23:09:00 - [12] - Quote Timtron Victory wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: Timtron Victory wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: think of it lore-wise. Cloaking allows the refraction of light making you "invisible". Now if you move,light refracts in all kinds of directions making you blue! In all seriousness though you can't be fully invisible. Yes yes I know we're in a space age shooter that allows us to fire plasma and lasers but its physically impossible to be fully invisible Its "physically" impossible to die and respawn a few seconds later Well it is your clone remember? when you die there is a countdown "clone termination imminent". so when you spawn,its a new clone! or so I think how it goes I was trying to point to the fact that you immortal in this game. Being invisible should not be impossible. I personally will prefer if the HUD or whatever its called doesnt turn red when you have it on a cloaked clone. Some maps make cloaking useless or have a red arrow on your head? I'll admit it does give off cloakers sometimes, you have a point.Huge open maps will not hide anyone though How many amarr does it take to change a light bulb? none. The minmatar do it for them
Forced Death Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 141	Posted - 2015.03.14 23:19:00 - [13] - Quote SILENTSAM 69 wrote: The cloak makes you shine bright and blue on the screen. Not sure why the cloak makes you stand out so much. Then to top it off it takes a stupid amount of time to pull out anything else. The nerf was way too much. You are essentially dead when someone sees your bright blue body running around and kills you before you can even try to pull out your weapon. Everyone who wanted it nerfed only wanted it because they can not be bothered to pay attention to the screen, or were just upset because they died a couple times and freaked out about their KDR. The Scout has very little reason to use the Cloak since it doesn't even cloak you. People have learned to look for that obvious bright blue shimmer and kill you quickly knowing you can not shoot back. At the very least get rid of the blue lights that shine so bright while you move. People wanted it nerfed because you could literally have a shotgun with a cloak on, and run up behind someone, with them ever seeing you, and bam, dead. And they still look cloaked while they shoot. TritusX
Summa Militum Hidd3n Dragon 272	Posted - 2015.03.14 23:39:00 - [14] - Quote Timtron Victory wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: think of it lore-wise. Cloaking allows the refraction of light making you "invisible". Now if you move,light refracts in all kinds of directions making you blue! In all seriousness though you can't be fully invisible. Yes yes I know we're in a space age shooter that allows us to fire plasma and lasers but its physically impossible to be fully invisible Its "physically" impossible to die and respawn a few seconds later Theoretically that is not true though it is impossible to duplicate a mercs personality, memories, knowledge, etc. into a new clone. Technically all spawned clones should have the mentality of an infant.
CoochMaster Flex Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 63	Posted - 2015.03.14 23:44:00 - [15] - Quote They only needed it because people weren't using it as it's suppose to. People would rather run around skip letters just to kill dudes. Before the nerf, I saw heavies hacking letters while cloaked scouts slayed. Now that it's nerfed, I act see scouts hacking **** while assault suits and heavies do the dirty work. The nerf was the right thing to do. CONHU still lives on.
Zindorak Nyain Chan 1722	Posted - 2015.03.14 23:45:00 - [16] - Quote I wouldn't mind a cloak buff Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Give me da iskiez Gk0 Scout yay :)
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1145	Posted - 2015.03.15 00:04:00 - [17] - Quote Timtron Victory wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: Timtron Victory wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: think of it lore-wise. Cloaking allows the refraction of light making you "invisible". Now if you move,light refracts in all kinds of directions making you blue! In all seriousness though you can't be fully invisible. Yes yes I know we're in a space age shooter that allows us to fire plasma and lasers but its physically impossible to be fully invisible Its "physically" impossible to die and respawn a few seconds later Well it is your clone remember? when you die there is a countdown "clone termination imminent". so when you spawn,its a new clone! or so I think how it goes I was trying to point to the fact that you immortal in this game. Being invisible should not be impossible. I personally will prefer if the HUD or whatever its called doesnt turn red when you have it on a cloaked clone. Some maps make cloaking useless We're not immortal, we die left and right, we die and wake up in a new clone of our original body. Immortals never die. /Faceplam
Big Daigo Caldari State 48	Posted - 2015.03.15 00:07:00 - [18] - Quote No. Even castles made of sand fall into the sea eventually. *For the State.*
hold that Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 708	Posted - 2015.03.15 00:10:00 - [19] - Quote and yet the majority of the player base runs cloaked scouts
Timtron Victory Horizons' Edge 437	Posted - 2015.03.15 00:35:00 - [20] - Quote Guys and ladies thats why its a SyFy cough Sci fi shooter. Anything is possible EDIT: I should have said ladies and guys, I am not sexist, honest RATATATAGäó CCP WhoeverGäó Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
Raptor Princess ALLOTEC INC 167	Posted - 2015.03.15 00:36:00 - [21] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: Timtron Victory wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: Timtron Victory wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: think of it lore-wise. Cloaking allows the refraction of light making you "invisible". Now if you move,light refracts in all kinds of directions making you blue! In all seriousness though you can't be fully invisible. Yes yes I know we're in a space age shooter that allows us to fire plasma and lasers but its physically impossible to be fully invisible Its "physically" impossible to die and respawn a few seconds later Well it is your clone remember? when you die there is a countdown "clone termination imminent". so when you spawn,its a new clone! or so I think how it goes I was trying to point to the fact that you immortal in this game. Being invisible should not be impossible. I personally will prefer if the HUD or whatever its called doesnt turn red when you have it on a cloaked clone. Some maps make cloaking useless or have a red arrow on your head? I'll admit it does give off cloakers sometimes, you have a point.Huge open maps will not hide anyone though If a scout is using their slots for armour rather than dampeners, then they should definitely have a red arrow above their head. You need to use sp and slots wisely to make suits viable. And as for maps, some are no good for heavies, loads suck for snipers, some are better than others for Logis. You can't have one suit that's perfect in every situation, that's silly.
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 1420	Posted - 2015.03.15 00:38:00 - [22] - Quote Harry Potters requires no buff. Please support fair play!
Timtron Victory Horizons' Edge 438	Posted - 2015.03.15 01:01:00 - [23] - Quote You are wrong, even with dampners, the indicator goes red if you target correctly. Anyways its human nature to argue even if the truth is staring them in the face. And you are just repeating what I said: some maps dont make other equipment useless why should the cloak be? Anyways even if he moon fell and landed in front of someone who doesnt believe the moon exists, they will still refuse to believe. PS Giving you the benefit of doubt, I was talking about turning red when you point your weapon at the enemy. I was not talking about tacnet or whatever the scan display is called. It has nothing to do with dampners RATATATAGäó CCP WhoeverGäó Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
VALCORE72 Dead Man's Game RUST415 244	Posted - 2015.03.15 02:03:00 - [24] - Quote umm 2 words ..... here we go ......HELL NOOOOO ____ there we go. 6 months of scouts was eough . there good where there at
Leither Yiltron Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1108	Posted - 2015.03.15 02:53:00 - [25] - Quote SILENTSAM 69 wrote: Everyone who wanted it nerfed only wanted it because they can not be bothered to pay attention to the screen This particular point is fairly controversial from the feedback that I've gathered, Sam. One recurrent idea is that the scout effect reportedly turns up very differently depending on your television, and of course your distance from the screen. I play a few feet away from a computer monitor myself. My experience in the past has been that seeing a cloaked person, and seeing them well enough to kill them, are wildly different metrics. During the bad ole' days without the cloak delay I would often see a cloaked scout's "shimmer", but the visual distortion was enough to make it pretty darn difficult to kill that guy if he just zig-zagged while running away. This part of the experience fueled my frustration, really, since I had essentially out-maneuvered the scout player by identifying his location before he had killed me. My cloak advocacy reached its peak when the mechanism got touted as an alternative for covering open ground unnoticed by tanks and semi-distant enemies. The predator-style play it inspired before the nerf was terrible. Long term roadmap by Aeon Amadi Have a pony
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 8509	Posted - 2015.03.15 02:58:00 - [26] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Sorry to disagree...cloak is in the best place that it's ever been. People are actually using them for what tthey're supposed to be and it's effective at that. Players still cloak and disappear right in front of you and then around a cover. So, it still works. Except that they don't disappear. If we disappeared, I could care less. I become a little blurry in see through, but am still visible. On night time maps, I look like a little bright shiny guy running across a field. It gives me no protection, and when I am shot at, I have an incredibly awkward clunky delay to try and even begin to defend myself. If you really think we "disappear" you should have no problem with them toning down the shimmer since you can't see it anyway apparently. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood RISE of LEGION 171	Posted - 2015.03.15 03:00:00 - [27] - Quote Hell yeah buff the cloak! Make it redshift and blueshift since it's reflecting/refracting light. Entering the void and becoming wind. Message for 1v1 air to air
xavier zor 0uter.Heaven 861	Posted - 2015.03.15 03:13:00 - [28] - Quote the uncloaking animation needs to be slower, not the switching animation that would make more sense retired stabbed musturd, duna, radar, tibs returning December 2015 yay
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 182	Posted - 2015.03.15 03:14:00 - [29] - Quote Juno Tristan wrote: The delay is the most clumsy/frustrating mechanic in the game the amount of times i've used the weapon wheel to select nova knives only to not actually switch to them yet still decloak is far too high Not to mention ******* stupid
xavier zor 0uter.Heaven 861	Posted - 2015.03.15 03:18:00 - [30] - Quote Timtron Victory wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: think of it lore-wise. Cloaking allows the refraction of light making you "invisible". Now if you move,light refracts in all kinds of directions making you blue! In all seriousness though you can't be fully invisible. Yes yes I know we're in a space age shooter that allows us to fire plasma and lasers but its physically impossible to be fully invisible Its "physically" impossible to die and respawn a few seconds later our conscience is transferred from our dead clone to a brand new clone retired stabbed musturd, duna, radar, tibs returning December 2015 yay

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