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SILENTSAM 69
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.14 21:55:00 -
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The cloak makes you shine bright and blue on the screen. Not sure why the cloak makes you stand out so much.
Then to top it off it takes a stupid amount of time to pull out anything else. The nerf was way too much. You are essentially dead when someone sees your bright blue body running around and kills you before you can even try to pull out your weapon.
Everyone who wanted it nerfed only wanted it because they can not be bothered to pay attention to the screen, or were just upset because they died a couple times and freaked out about their KDR.
The Scout has very little reason to use the Cloak since it doesn't even cloak you. People have learned to look for that obvious bright blue shimmer and kill you quickly knowing you can not shoot back.
At the very least get rid of the blue lights that shine so bright while you move. |
SILENTSAM 69
SONS of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.30 03:56:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:think of it lore-wise. Cloaking allows the refraction of light making you "invisible". Now if you move,light refracts in all kinds of directions making you blue!
In all seriousness though you can't be fully invisible. Yes yes I know we're in a space age shooter that allows us to fire plasma and lasers but its physically impossible to be fully invisible I agree that movement should cause a blur. Currently through it causes much more than a blur. It causes you to actually glow and light up. Depending on your screen it is very obvious. |
SILENTSAM 69
SONS of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.30 03:59:00 -
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CoochMaster Flex wrote:They only needed it because people weren't using it as it's suppose to. People would rather run around skip letters just to kill dudes. Before the nerf, I saw heavies hacking letters while cloaked scouts slayed. Now that it's nerfed, I act see scouts hacking **** while assault suits and heavies do the dirty work. The nerf was the right thing to do. Every time someone says an item was not being used as it was supposed to you are wrong. There is no one way things are supposed to be used.
The goal is freedom to use things as you like. Not making things that put you in one role type. |
SILENTSAM 69
SONS of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.30 04:00:00 -
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hold that wrote:and yet the majority of the player base runs cloaked scouts You sure you do not mean most of the player base runs Sentinels with HMG's? |
SILENTSAM 69
SONS of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.30 04:04:00 -
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Leither Yiltron wrote:SILENTSAM 69 wrote: Everyone who wanted it nerfed only wanted it because they can not be bothered to pay attention to the screen
This particular point is fairly controversial from the feedback that I've gathered, Sam. One recurrent idea is that the scout effect reportedly turns up very differently depending on your television, and of course your distance from the screen. I play a few feet away from a computer monitor myself. My experience in the past has been that seeing a cloaked person, and seeing them well enough to kill them, are wildly different metrics. During the bad ole' days without the cloak delay I would often see a cloaked scout's "shimmer", but the visual distortion was enough to make it pretty darn difficult to kill that guy if he just zig-zagged while running away. This part of the experience fueled my frustration, really, since I had essentially out-maneuvered the scout player by identifying his location before he had killed me. My cloak advocacy reached its peak when the mechanism got touted as an alternative for covering open ground unnoticed by tanks and semi-distant enemies. The predator-style play it inspired before the nerf was terrible. Maybe it is the great contrast and colour of my plasma screen, but I see them as bright shining blue people. They are pretty obvious. Then again I am coupling that with better than 20/20 vision. Maybe it isn't equally obvious to anyone.
I wonder if there i a way to change the tint and other setting on the screen to maximize the visibility of a moving cloaked scout. |
SILENTSAM 69
SONS of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.30 18:01:00 -
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Michael Epic wrote:Your entire point revolves around the fact that you can't be invisible and sneak up on people to kill them, which is a b!tch move in the first place!
Boo hoo dude, do you hear that? It's the whambulance and its coming for your crybaby emergency!
(P.S. Everyone cries about remote explosives being too op but they've been nerfed to hell and back but all the cloaks scouts cry they can't sneak up on you invisible and kill you which is worse than RE's) My idea has nothing to do with not being able to sneak up on people. It has to do with the shimmer effect being far too obvious. It actually lights you up on the screen. Even at long range. I watch snipers easily follow and take out cloaked scouts. |
SILENTSAM 69
SONS of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.30 18:09:00 -
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Raptor Princess wrote:SILENTSAM 69 wrote:Michael Epic wrote:Your entire point revolves around the fact that you can't be invisible and sneak up on people to kill them, which is a b!tch move in the first place!
Boo hoo dude, do you hear that? It's the whambulance and its coming for your crybaby emergency!
(P.S. Everyone cries about remote explosives being too op but they've been nerfed to hell and back but all the cloaks scouts cry they can't sneak up on you invisible and kill you which is worse than RE's) My idea has nothing to do with not being able to sneak up on people. It has to do with the shimmer effect being far too obvious. It actually lights you up on the screen. Even at long range. I watch snipers easily follow and take out cloaked scouts. It's not always obvious. I've had scouts running up to me wearing a cloak, started shooting at them, they strafe and then they're gone! Then splat, I'm dead. Nobody should be able to hide in a shadow and then splat mercs. Funny thing is I find them the most obvious to see in the shadows. The glowing blue light seem more obvious on a dark background. |
SILENTSAM 69
SONS of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.30 18:29:00 -
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Raptor Princess wrote:SILENTSAM 69 wrote:Raptor Princess wrote:SILENTSAM 69 wrote:Michael Epic wrote:Your entire point revolves around the fact that you can't be invisible and sneak up on people to kill them, which is a b!tch move in the first place!
Boo hoo dude, do you hear that? It's the whambulance and its coming for your crybaby emergency!
(P.S. Everyone cries about remote explosives being too op but they've been nerfed to hell and back but all the cloaks scouts cry they can't sneak up on you invisible and kill you which is worse than RE's) My idea has nothing to do with not being able to sneak up on people. It has to do with the shimmer effect being far too obvious. It actually lights you up on the screen. Even at long range. I watch snipers easily follow and take out cloaked scouts. It's not always obvious. I've had scouts running up to me wearing a cloak, started shooting at them, they strafe and then they're gone! Then splat, I'm dead. Nobody should be able to hide in a shadow and then splat mercs. Funny thing is I find them the most obvious to see in the shadows. The glowing blue light seem more obvious on a dark background. It depends on your tv and your eyes. I see things differently depending on the size of my tv (and if it's hd) and find it harder to spot scouts if I'm sat more than 1m away from it (which I rarely do). If the scout is running in bright light, it's more obvious to me. But even then I struggle. Most of the time when I snipe a cloaked scout it's because they've been shield/armour tanking and not profile dampening at all, so still have a red chevron above their head, which makes them much less sneaky! I like the shimmer effect. I think it is more equal across TV's, but the blue light seems to differ so much that people with the right TV's get a huge bonus. |
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