DUST Search - Laser Rifles are now trash. Again.

Fizzer XCIV wrote:

Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:

Fizzer XCIV wrote:

Bright Cloud wrote:

If you needed a rooftop to be good with a laser rifle then you shouldnt had used it to begin with. It basically is a long range supression weapon. Every 1 knows how devestating a laser beam is and when they see one every 1 runs to cover that then in return allows your squad to advance and flank the enemy.

Precisely. It is a long range area suppression weapon. It makes people run to cover.
Do you know where weapons like that perform best? Elevated positions where they can have visual coverage over a lot of space and force people to cover over a wide area. Its like the Eye of Sauron.

Let's not pretend that the LR is best used on the ground guys. If its decreased damage at <60m wasn't enough of a hint of that...
...lets just say it's getting rediculous seeing people saying this over and over again like there is even a scrap of thruth to it.

So in your opinion elevated terrain means hiding on a building

people who use lr on the ground use terrain we just don't need to be sitting on top of a roof hey see that hill over there kill kill kill runs to next hill kill kill ..climbs ona table top kill kill hops down kill kill ..jumped by scout swaps to smg kill lol ..ground pounding is 100 % viable i am a mobile lr I got the 60+kill board pics to show its viable on the ground and i run mlt gg

What I'm saying is that LRs work best in places where the enemy can't easily get close to you. This generally is elevated positions. Rooftops especially.
But Myos can completely negates the advantage that most rooftops grant, on top of making it very difficult to track them with a LR.

Not that I even care anymore. Myos completely killed my passion for this game, becuase it's just not the kind of shooter I like anymore.

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Greiv Rabbah M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command 258	Posted - 2015.03.15 17:54:00 - [61] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: The role of LRs was rooftop camping. Rooftops are the opposite of safe now. And good luck tracking jumpers through the air with a LR... Just remove the jumps. The balance that has been worked for for years has been thrown out the window in favor of GoatSimulator514. "Its funny because he jumps high!" Haha haha hahaha haha. That's right, I'm laughing at you. I'm laughing at the person who has obviously never seen the intro for this game. Google "dust 514 trailer" or "fanfest 2012 trailer" or better yet, go in dust to neocomGåÆhelpGåÆvideosGåÆImmortal. The role of LRs has not been rooftop camping since before tye weapon was added to the game. Your whiny point is grossly invalid Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
Greiv Rabbah M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command 258	Posted - 2015.03.15 18:05:00 - [62] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: "This is so fun and funny even though it's completely altered the entire game and ruined gunfights" =/= balanced. If CCP's new vision is to have this stupidity as a part of combat, do not leave it on a module. Jumping shouldn't be something you fit for, it's a necessity to the game. If you want it to be this new craziness then build the gunplay around it and make it a skill that you level up, holding x takes you to the height you want or to the peak of your jump arc. But ffs, don't throw a mechanic into a game where only a few weapons are really going to work in a balanced way with it. Baal come on, don't be like that now. Moonboots make easy targets- aiming is difficult while flying- knife v knife midair is epic(until a sniper picks you off for floating through the air after disemboweling someone) Cqlm down a bit. These super jumps are something you have to skill into. And nobody will use them before long. forget all about it and just use your breach ar. I know yiu love your breach ar. Everytime you see someone drifting through the air(lets call them... Drifters) so every time you see a drifter, just imagine them as a clay pigeon. Or just dont and instead watch their shields droo when they hit the ground, its hil-fkin-larious! Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
Greiv Rabbah M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command 258	Posted - 2015.03.15 18:10:00 - [63] - Quote byte modal wrote: trollin. Trollin long and trollin hard I don't always +1 trolls, but your post made me lol. +1 Troll on trolli Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2713	Posted - 2015.03.15 18:36:00 - [64] - Quote Greiv Rabbah wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: The role of LRs was rooftop camping. Rooftops are the opposite of safe now. And good luck tracking jumpers through the air with a LR... Just remove the jumps. The balance that has been worked for for years has been thrown out the window in favor of GoatSimulator514. "Its funny because he jumps high!" Haha haha hahaha haha. That's right, I'm laughing at you. I'm laughing at the person who has obviously never seen the intro for this game. Google "dust 514 trailer" or "fanfest 2012 trailer" or better yet, go in dust to neocomGåÆhelpGåÆvideosGåÆImmortal. The role of LRs has not been rooftop camping since before tye weapon was added to the game. Your whiny point is grossly invalid That is terribad logic. Early videos showed ARs being used against HAVs. "Make ARs AV weapons! The videos for told it!" Smh... Home at Last <3
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1861	Posted - 2015.03.15 19:05:00 - [65] - Quote Event though OP is semitrolling, Laser is not trash. It's very enjoyable as squad support weapon. Looking at both sides of the coin. Even Aurum one.
nelo kazuma Da Short Buss Driving School 42	Posted - 2015.03.15 20:49:00 - [66] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: The role of LRs was rooftop camping. Rooftops are the opposite of safe now. And good luck tracking jumpers through the air with a LR... Just remove the jumps. The balance that has been worked for for years has been thrown out the window in favor of GoatSimulator514. "Its funny because he jumps high!" This post is ridiculous just like your arguement in a wide open field laser is still king sidearms or secondary weapons are meant to assist u as well. If u wanna rooftop campers have allways been an issue and the game is more blanced now than ever everything has a counter to it now. Jumping modsmake u have less hp meaning more vulnerable so unless ur aim just sucks that bad or youve relied on ohh there coming from this specific direction only so I dont have to pay attention a ywhere else ur fps skills suck.
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 742	Posted - 2015.03.15 23:39:00 - [67] - Quote Myofibs have not hindered my ability to laser so far. But then again I don't rooftop laser -- I run it on the ground.
Hysanryu Brave Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 35	Posted - 2015.03.16 00:38:00 - [68] - Quote tal mrak-thanl wrote: I got melted w/ a LR while airborne several times last night. Those guys sure didn't have trouble aiming at my beautiful, soaring scout. Hey i think i got you once! and i run laser not as a camping weapon but as a flanking weapon. if you have to stay in a secluded place to use a gun effectively than it better be a sniper. lasers are fantastic for open field and require no rooftop at all. the point is, if you have to camp a rooftop to use the laser then you got no game. that is what MD/PLC/RE's are for. "NAH" - Quote Rosa Parks, 1955
Patrick57 9836	Posted - 2015.03.16 01:00:00 - [69] - Quote are myofibs really so powerful that rooftop camping isn't a thing anymore?
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 8542	Posted - 2015.03.16 01:05:00 - [70] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: are myofibs really so powerful that rooftop camping isn't a thing anymore? In certain areas they really do help. With 3 Myos my Minja jump on some crates and the lower portion of the 2 buildings on Line Harvest, and I have heard of some people on the new map with Alpha in the hanger using 5 Myos on a Basic Medium Frame and jumping on top of the buildings behind Alpha. I would bet there are other areas like the saucer shaped buildings in some of the cities that can now be reached with Myo stacking that couldn't have been accessible without a DS before. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.

Patrick57 9837	Posted - 2015.03.16 01:32:00 - [71] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Patrick57 wrote: are myofibs really so powerful that rooftop camping isn't a thing anymore? In certain areas they really do help. With 3 Myos my Minja jump on some crates and the lower portion of the 2 buildings on Line Harvest, and I have heard of some people on the new map with Alpha in the hanger using 5 Myos on a Basic Medium Frame and jumping on top of the buildings behind Alpha. I would bet there are other areas like the saucer shaped buildings in some of the cities that can now be reached with Myo stacking that couldn't have been accessible without a DS before. ****. I haven't played enough this week to see anything like that. now I know what I'm skilling into :p
Most Sneakiest F0RSAKEN EMPIRE. 36	Posted - 2015.03.16 02:25:00 - [72] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Tonka Legacy wrote: I sure have been hearing lots of this jumping stuff, I have only been off for like 4 days, what am I missing? Like I said. GoatSimulator514. Myofibrils make you jump like Master Cheif on bath salts. The vast majority of this moronic community is just laughing and drooling at how "cool" or "funny" it is. But in reality, its ***** stupid, and only morons would think it is in any way good for the game. 1 or 2 are fantastic for increased mobility. 3+ are silly, and trash fits that won't last a few weeks. So does that mean you're fixing the stacking within the next few weeks? Noob [Kaalakiota Sniper Rifle] Most Sneakiest A few kills later... Most Sneakiest [Militia Sniper Rifle**] Noob
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 889	Posted - 2015.03.16 03:10:00 - [73] - Quote If you needed a rooftop to be good with a laser rifle then you shouldnt had used it to begin with. It basically is a long range supression weapon. Every 1 knows how devestating a laser beam is and when they see one every 1 runs to cover that then in return allows your squad to advance and flank the enemy. Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
Nevyn Tazinas Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 62	Posted - 2015.03.16 03:20:00 - [74] - Quote Ignoring that LR is still fine, Jumping isn't fine if you aren't one of those people with aim assist. It just shows how powerful aim assist is for those who do have/use it, but without it things are silly. Want to show it, remove aim assist, and then watch everyone go mental about jumpers. Also Bolt pistol ceases to be OP as well.
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 386	Posted - 2015.03.16 05:07:00 - [75] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Tonka Legacy wrote: I sure have been hearing lots of this jumping stuff, I have only been off for like 4 days, what am I missing? Like I said. GoatSimulator514. Myofibrils make you jump like Master Cheif on bath salts. The vast majority of this moronic community is just laughing and drooling at how "cool" or "funny" it is. But in reality, its ******* stupid, and only morons would think it is in any way good for the game. 1 or 2 are fantastic for increased mobility. 3+ are silly, and trash fits that won't last a few weeks. if by increased mobility you mean moving vertically faster than a minscout so that your 500ms latency prevents you from being shot, then yes. One cannot carry hatred without having once loved. NKing the forums one thread at a time
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 386	Posted - 2015.03.16 05:09:00 - [76] - Quote Greiv Rabbah wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: The role of LRs was rooftop camping. Rooftops are the opposite of safe now. And good luck tracking jumpers through the air with a LR... Just remove the jumps. The balance that has been worked for for years has been thrown out the window in favor of GoatSimulator514. "Its funny because he jumps high!" Haha haha hahaha haha. That's right, I'm laughing at you. I'm laughing at the person who has obviously never seen the intro for this game. Google "dust 514 trailer" or "fanfest 2012 trailer" or better yet, go in dust to neocomGåÆhelpGåÆvideosGåÆImmortal. The role of LRs has not been rooftop camping since before tye weapon was added to the game. Your whiny point is grossly invalid you people enjoy pulling lore out only when it is convenient. stop it if you really want to go that route, caldari should be as fast as minmatar due to lack of armor. One cannot carry hatred without having once loved. NKing the forums one thread at a time
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2720	Posted - 2015.03.16 05:31:00 - [77] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: If you needed a rooftop to be good with a laser rifle then you shouldnt had used it to begin with. It basically is a long range supression weapon. Every 1 knows how devestating a laser beam is and when they see one every 1 runs to cover that then in return allows your squad to advance and flank the enemy. Precisely. It is a long range area suppression weapon. It makes people run to cover. Do you know where weapons like that perform best? Elevated positions where they can have visual coverage over a lot of space and force people to cover. Let's not pretend that the LR is best used on the ground guys. Its getting rediculous seeing people saying this over and over again like there is even a scrap of thruth to it. Home at Last <3
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1642	Posted - 2015.03.16 06:20:00 - [78] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: 1 or 2 are fantastic for increased mobility. 3+ are silly, and trash fits that won't last a few weeks. I love you. Do you love me back? Mace yourself, blame someone else itGÇÖs okay, no one will believe you AIV member.
iBONG Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 6	Posted - 2015.03.23 20:32:00 - [79] - Quote Denchlad 7 wrote: If I, a person not great with the LR, can get 32/4 in an Ambush with it on a full BPO Templar fit, you're doing it wrong. Some of the Myofibs fits ive been testing are scarily good, was in the 50 Kills region with them on a Cal Assault. Something wrong when amarr assault suit &laser rifle out shoots ammar commando what's the point? Near identical armor HP bonuses not registering assault wins 9/10 engagements even preheat not working, its as if assault suit getting the commando bonus, never mind a maxed out warbarge added into equation. Need a mass driver just to finish off that cult strafe assault since even when assaults stop firing his laser doing twice the damage amarr man do does when I strafe preheated and he's standing in open waiting for me to pop out. Some of this would seem to hit on the CCP team lag, some matches seem predetermined which side will win. Identical load out opponents dealing twice as much damage resulting in my clones death. People are noticing this version of lag, not lag switching. Constantly hearing my squadmates state, "he's not taking any damage" and often it's a player, who has admitted to having another system on his router playing in same match. The invincibility glitch I'll call that one. It took all my concentration aiming down sights chest up shooting w armor weaponry mimnmando to win 1v1 but half my damage registered all at once while he reduced me to34 HP. I'm tempted to report these players, however do not feel like receiving any undue backlash for exposing truth.
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 372	Posted - 2015.03.23 21:08:00 - [80] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Bright Cloud wrote: If you needed a rooftop to be good with a laser rifle then you shouldnt had used it to begin with. It basically is a long range supression weapon. Every 1 knows how devestating a laser beam is and when they see one every 1 runs to cover that then in return allows your squad to advance and flank the enemy. Precisely. It is a long range area suppression weapon. It makes people run to cover. Do you know where weapons like that perform best? Elevated positions where they can have visual coverage over a lot of space and force people to cover over a wide area. Its like the Eye of Sauron. Let's not pretend that the LR is best used on the ground guys. If its decreased damage at <60m wasn't enough of a hint of that... ...lets just say it's getting rediculous seeing people saying this over and over again like there is even a scrap of thruth to it. So in your opinion elevated terrain means hiding on a building people who use lr on the ground use terrain we just don't need to be sitting on top of a roof hey see that hill over there kill kill kill runs to next hill kill kill ..climbs ona table top kill kill hops down kill kill ..jumped by scout swaps to smg kill lol ..ground pounding is 100 % viable i am a mobile lr I got the 60+kill board pics to show its viable on the ground and i run mlt gg no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil

Victor889 WarRavens 231	Posted - 2015.03.23 21:12:00 - [81] - Quote Hipfire LR OP Part time Logi, Full time heavy.
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2794	Posted - 2015.03.23 21:39:00 - [82] - Quote Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Bright Cloud wrote: If you needed a rooftop to be good with a laser rifle then you shouldnt had used it to begin with. It basically is a long range supression weapon. Every 1 knows how devestating a laser beam is and when they see one every 1 runs to cover that then in return allows your squad to advance and flank the enemy. Precisely. It is a long range area suppression weapon. It makes people run to cover. Do you know where weapons like that perform best? Elevated positions where they can have visual coverage over a lot of space and force people to cover over a wide area. Its like the Eye of Sauron. Let's not pretend that the LR is best used on the ground guys. If its decreased damage at <60m wasn't enough of a hint of that... ...lets just say it's getting rediculous seeing people saying this over and over again like there is even a scrap of thruth to it. So in your opinion elevated terrain means hiding on a building people who use lr on the ground use terrain we just don't need to be sitting on top of a roof hey see that hill over there kill kill kill runs to next hill kill kill ..climbs ona table top kill kill hops down kill kill ..jumped by scout swaps to smg kill lol ..ground pounding is 100 % viable i am a mobile lr I got the 60+kill board pics to show its viable on the ground and i run mlt gg What I'm saying is that LRs work best in places where the enemy can't easily get close to you. This generally is elevated positions. Rooftops especially. But Myos can completely negates the advantage that most rooftops grant, on top of making it very difficult to track them with a LR. Not that I even care anymore. Myos completely killed my passion for this game, becuase it's just not the kind of shooter I like anymore. Home at Last <3
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17809	Posted - 2015.03.23 21:42:00 - [83] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Bright Cloud wrote: If you needed a rooftop to be good with a laser rifle then you shouldnt had used it to begin with. It basically is a long range supression weapon. Every 1 knows how devestating a laser beam is and when they see one every 1 runs to cover that then in return allows your squad to advance and flank the enemy. Precisely. It is a long range area suppression weapon. It makes people run to cover. Do you know where weapons like that perform best? Elevated positions where they can have visual coverage over a lot of space and force people to cover over a wide area. Its like the Eye of Sauron. Let's not pretend that the LR is best used on the ground guys. If its decreased damage at <60m wasn't enough of a hint of that... ...lets just say it's getting rediculous seeing people saying this over and over again like there is even a scrap of thruth to it. So in your opinion elevated terrain means hiding on a building people who use lr on the ground use terrain we just don't need to be sitting on top of a roof hey see that hill over there kill kill kill runs to next hill kill kill ..climbs ona table top kill kill hops down kill kill ..jumped by scout swaps to smg kill lol ..ground pounding is 100 % viable i am a mobile lr I got the 60+kill board pics to show its viable on the ground and i run mlt gg What I'm saying is that LRs work best in places where the enemy can't easily get close to you. This generally is elevated positions. Rooftops especially. But Myos can completely negates the advantage that most rooftops grant, on top of making it very difficult to track them with a LR. Not that I even care anymore. Myos completely killed my passion for this game, becuase it's just not the kind of shooter I like anymore. It's more anywhere with exploitable open tracts of land. Raphael: I'm warning you. Do not leave me here. I will find you. Castiel: Maybe one day. Today you're my little bitch


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