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Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 336	Posted - 2015.03.13 18:44:00 - [31] - Quote Get good ..LR's still the boss no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3517	Posted - 2015.03.13 18:51:00 - [32] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Tonka Legacy wrote: I sure have been hearing lots of this jumping stuff, I have only been off for like 4 days, what am I missing? Like I said. GoatSimulator514. Myofibrils make you jump like Master Cheif on bath salts. The vast majority of this moronic community is just laughing and drooling at how "cool" or "funny" it is. But in reality, its ******* stupid, and only morons would think it is in any way good for the game. 1 or 2 are fantastic for increased mobility. 3+ are silly, and trash fits that won't last a few weeks. Would you like to wager on that? 4+ will become required for every single competitive match. Placing uplinks and removing people from overwatch. Count on it. Why ADS when you can jump? A stacking penalty should be considered/implemented, IMO, to rein it back a bit.
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 652	Posted - 2015.03.13 18:56:00 - [33] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Tonka Legacy wrote: I sure have been hearing lots of this jumping stuff, I have only been off for like 4 days, what am I missing? Like I said. GoatSimulator514. Myofibrils make you jump like Master Cheif on bath salts. The vast majority of this moronic community is just laughing and drooling at how "cool" or "funny" it is. But in reality, its ***** stupid, and only morons would think it is in any way good for the game. 1 or 2 are fantastic for increased mobility. 3+ are silly, and trash fits that won't last a few weeks. seems like a properly applied stacking penalty would prevent this nonsense. Why add an artificial barrier when there's already fall damage and the fact that high slots are occupied? We have two natural** barriers. Artificial barriers should be a last ditch method. Seriously, you sound worse than the EU. Some things don't need direct regulation because they already regulate themselves. Let the meta develop for a few months before talking about a nerf.
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 337	Posted - 2015.03.13 19:19:00 - [34] - Quote Op meant to say the role of lr in the hands of scrubs with no gungame is to sit on a roof ..like most things ..and sitting in certain areas can be more easily countered now oh no sobs I can't camp and i have no gungame so I can't run lr Meanwhile the rest of us are enjoying incinerating people mid air ironically My headshot ratio went up with echo no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game RUST415 381	Posted - 2015.03.13 19:31:00 - [35] - Quote Lahut K'mar wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Tonka Legacy wrote: I sure have been hearing lots of this jumping stuff, I have only been off for like 4 days, what am I missing? Like I said. GoatSimulator514. Myofibrils make you jump like Master Cheif on bath salts. The vast majority of this moronic community is just laughing and drooling at how "cool" or "funny" it is. But in reality, its ***** stupid, and only morons would think it is in any way good for the game. WARNING: NEW EDEN IS A FUN-FREE ZONE. FUN IS STRICTLY PROHOBITED.** People like you are just so stupid.. There already were fun ways to play Dust, and being serious is also fun in case you forgot that. These jumps are fun yes, but they are game breaking. They break all the immersion and drastically change tactics and gungame to a point that it's not even "funny" anymore. It's just bullsh*t jumping and bugged hit detection exploit. Stop this madness, and bring back Dust. If you think people will stop "flying" in a few weeks, you've never been so wrong in your life. Rise? That's what they used to call me. Sequal Rise. That was my name. Now I come Back to you, at the turn of the tide.
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 71	Posted - 2015.03.13 19:44:00 - [36] - Quote I beg to differ! You just need to preheat your laser rifle just a bit more than usual then aim for the head! Gets them every time,even min assault on ocasion. I'very been using the laser rifle for as long as I can remember an I will not let go of it just because of moon jumpers and you shouldn't too! Come on man, let's melt jumper faces until they get tired of it How many amarr does it take to change a light bulb? none. The minmatar do it for them
FLAYLOCK Steve Kinsho Swords Caldari State 483	Posted - 2015.03.13 19:47:00 - [37] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Tonka Legacy wrote: I sure have been hearing lots of this jumping stuff, I have only been off for like 4 days, what am I missing? Like I said. GoatSimulator514. Myofibrils make you jump like Master Cheif on bath salts. The vast majority of this moronic community is just laughing and drooling at how "cool" or "funny" it is. But in reality, its ******* stupid, and only morons would think it is in any way good for the game. 1 or 2 are fantastic for increased mobility. 3+ are silly, and trash fits that won't last a few weeks. They ain't trash fits, it isn't hard to track them in the air. Just aim, but don't aim ddirectly at them "lead" your shots. Years of playing other games which requires you to basically lead every shot because of lag and other reasons make this jumping thing just target practice and absolutely fun.
JIMvc2 Consolidated Dust 798	Posted - 2015.03.13 19:51:00 - [38] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Tonka Legacy wrote: I sure have been hearing lots of this jumping stuff, I have only been off for like 4 days, what am I missing? Like I said. GoatSimulator514. Myofibrils make you jump like Master Cheif on bath salts. The vast majority of this moronic community is just laughing and drooling at how "cool" or "funny" it is. But in reality, its ******* stupid, and only morons would think it is in any way good for the game. I will find you in a match and I will jump jump jump until you die. >:) You won't even expect it so pay attention of your surroundings lol (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Die YOU SHADOW BEING IN THE DARK!!!
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 9057	Posted - 2015.03.13 19:57:00 - [39] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Tonka Legacy wrote: I sure have been hearing lots of this jumping stuff, I have only been off for like 4 days, what am I missing? Like I said. GoatSimulator514. Myofibrils make you jump like Master Cheif on bath salts. The vast majority of this moronic community is just laughing and drooling at how "cool" or "funny" it is. But in reality, its ***** stupid, and only morons would think it is in any way good for the game. At least you're honest in that you're completely bias and have no respect for the opinions of others when it comes to something you disagree with. Remind me never to take you seriously again. Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? Founder of AIV**
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 2289	Posted - 2015.03.13 20:04:00 - [40] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Tonka Legacy wrote: I sure have been hearing lots of this jumping stuff, I have only been off for like 4 days, what am I missing? Like I said. GoatSimulator514. Myofibrils make you jump like Master Cheif on bath salts. The vast majority of this moronic community is just laughing and drooling at how "cool" or "funny" it is. But in reality, its ******* stupid, and only morons would think it is in any way good for the game. 1 or 2 are fantastic for increased mobility. 3+ are silly, and trash fits that won't last a few weeks. You callin me silly m8 XD No Safety Net. TLDR : XD

Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2197	Posted - 2015.03.13 20:04:00 - [41] - Quote "This is so fun and funny even though it's completely altered the entire game and ruined gunfights" =/= balanced. If CCP's new vision is to have this stupidity as a part of combat, do not leave it on a module. Jumping shouldn't be something you fit for, it's a necessity to the game. If you want it to be this new craziness then build the gunplay around it and make it a skill that you level up, holding x takes you to the height you want or to the peak of your jump arc. But ffs, don't throw a mechanic into a game where only a few weapons are really going to work in a balanced way with it. Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0 I GÖú Puppies (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.*pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 266	Posted - 2015.03.13 20:07:00 - [42] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Tonka Legacy wrote: I sure have been hearing lots of this jumping stuff, I have only been off for like 4 days, what am I missing? Like I said. GoatSimulator514. Myofibrils make you jump like Master Cheif on bath salts. The vast majority of this moronic community is just laughing and drooling at how "cool" or "funny" it is. But in reality, its ******* stupid, and only morons would think it is in any way good for the game. 1 or 2 are fantastic for increased mobility. 3+ are silly, and trash fits that won't last a few weeks. 5 "Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever 07-28-12 ~Deal with it~
GLOBAL RAGE Consolidated Dust 131	Posted - 2015.03.13 20:32:00 - [43] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Tonka Legacy wrote: I sure have been hearing lots of this jumping stuff, I have only been off for like 4 days, what am I missing? Like I said. GoatSimulator514. Myofibrils make you jump like Master Cheif on bath salts. The vast majority of this moronic community is just laughing and drooling at how "cool" or "funny" it is. But in reality, its ******* stupid, and only morons would think it is in any way good for the game. 1 or 2 are fantastic for increased mobility. 3+ are silly, and trash fits that won't last a few weeks. I beg to differ, uplink placement and the need to destroy said uplink will guarantee their survival. You have added a third dimension, but have destabilized map design and squad packages. I enjoyed DUST because it was inherently unbalanced, and "omni" was the true sollution to being effective. Now chasing down uplinks, and not the gun fight will dictate outcomes; because being in chaos is not a "thinking" mans game. "CHARLIE-FRIDAY 514" If you want to keep jumping, then you NEED to auto generate terrain focused maps for ALL game modes. You cannot dominate ground you do not know.
byte modal 119	Posted - 2015.03.13 20:42:00 - [44] - Quote If I am reading the OP correctly---and I may very well not be--- but if I am? LR gameplay from upper levels or overlook points is ruined by the improved accessibility now available to those who stack stims. In allowing scouts to flush out the nests more efficiently, then I think my sniper game is too so ruined. As is my TAC AR. Hm. So is my bpo AR for that matter. And any other weapon capable of... aiming down a railing, wall, or flight of stairs: Forge, MD, PLC, ....swarms (?), ScrR (!?), RR, CR, HMG (??!?), sidearms, and shot.... ...wait a minute. SGs .... hm. ... .. . . . BOOST SHOTGUN THREAD! (and nova knives, by association) ...clever, op. clever indeed. - me(ow). p.s. in consideration of the possibility that I may have totally misread the OP, it could be a NERF shotgun thread too. I dunno. <3 kitten bacon taco (nom)
iBONG Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 2	Posted - 2015.03.14 11:42:00 - [45] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: "This is so fun and funny even though it's completely altered the entire game and ruined gunfights" =/= balanced. If CCP's new vision is to have this stupidity as a part of combat, do not leave it on a module. Jumping shouldn't be something you fit for, it's a necessity to the game. If you want it to be this new craziness then build the gunplay around it and make it a skill that you level up, holding x takes you to the height you want or to the peak of your jump arc. But ffs, don't throw a mechanic into a game where only a few weapons are really going to work in a balanced way with it. Do his idea to encourage more alias scripting for m&k users, it does make my ads look kinda lame, just make jump height require more stamina so half as many jumps in fast succession. unless they add green juice to the equation, I guess.... Then even more starter fit take down feel to your op jumpstars that pop well placed often costly link placements.
Racro 01 Arifistan Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 515	Posted - 2015.03.14 11:44:00 - [46] - Quote if the LR was usless I wouldn't be killing proto heavies with my MLT LR. my vizam with prof 5 and 3 complex lights on a gal assault is a force to be reckoned with. amarr assult isn't required to make LR or scr to work properly. *Elite Gallenten Soldier*
Racro 01 Arifistan Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 515	Posted - 2015.03.14 11:47:00 - [47] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Mejt0 wrote: 1. Only noobs are camping with LR 2. LR is just as good as before hotfix echo. 3. When someone's jumping it doesn't make him untrackable. Just aim people. Just aim. 1.)Yeah, I'll just go and hunt people down with my LR. Get real. The LR is a long range area denial weapon. You camp roofs and high points with it. That was its role. Saying it wasn't doesn't change the fact that it was. 2.) No it isn't. Not with these retards jumping around. 3.) Prove it. Go get a ton of kills with a LR with the game in this state. I guarantee that as son as you start burning someone, they will just jump away. No amount of aiming skill can track that **. And its a broken skill:power anyway. "Press X to get away with no consequences!" Sounds balanced. I have a bpo gall assult with bpo mlt laser. went 16/5 assault gk.o with vizam laser +3 Complex lights and prof 5 24/2 LR is working as intended. able to kill at both close/long range is fun. all you need is to maange heat/how long you fire for. Elite Gallenten Soldier**
xavier zor 0uter.Heaven 835	Posted - 2015.03.14 11:56:00 - [48] - Quote you are using the laser rifle wrong it is intended for CQC engagements hence the large hipfire radius retired stabbed musturd, duna, radar, tibs replying -í° -£-û -í°
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 73	Posted - 2015.03.14 11:58:00 - [49] - Quote xavier zor wrote: you are using the laser rifle wrong it is intended for CQC engagements hence the large hipfire radius You're also supposed to use nova knives as throwing knives,not run around stabbing people How many amarr does it take to change a light bulb? none. The minmatar do it for them
Victor889 WarRavens 216	Posted - 2015.03.14 12:51:00 - [50] - Quote I'm surprised you still can't hipfire em down like you used to - I've not used LR in a long time but does the hipfire magnet still work? (Hipfire in the general vicinity of the enemy and the auto aim does the rest.... until they start bunnyhopping like mad..) Part time Logi, Full time heavy.

Nirwanda Vaughns 1545	Posted - 2015.03.14 13:26:00 - [51] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: 1. Only noobs are camping with LR. as a mid-long range weapon the LR is supposed to be a rooftop camp supression weapon. on topic i did fine with mine earlier. i'm not really a laser user but pulled out my bpo fit templar and fabulous pink quafe LR and killed a sniper camp. it was pretty funny. they scattered like ants running from a magnifing glass/sunbeam Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
Kuruld Sengar Demonite's Legion 264	Posted - 2015.03.14 13:28:00 - [52] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Tonka Legacy wrote: I sure have been hearing lots of this jumping stuff, I have only been off for like 4 days, what am I missing? Like I said. GoatSimulator514. Myofibrils make you jump like Master Cheif on bath salts. The vast majority of this moronic community is just laughing and drooling at how "cool" or "funny" it is. But in reality, its ******* stupid, and only morons would think it is in any way good for the game. 1 or 2 are fantastic for increased mobility. 3+ are silly, and trash fits that won't last a few weeks. Rattati, I know you did NOT just dis melee fits... If I ever find your clone in game, I'm punching that sexy green dropsuit of yours! I'll show you a trash fit! He seems to be referring to the jump portion, not the melee portion. My guess is he is not calling the fitting completely useless, but not nearly good enough to become the meta like many doom callers are making it seem.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 3217	Posted - 2015.03.14 13:53:00 - [53] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Mejt0 wrote: 1. Only noobs are camping with LR 2. LR is just as good as before hotfix echo. 3. When someone's jumping it doesn't make him untrackable. Just aim people. Just aim. 1.)Yeah, I'll just go and hunt people down with my LR. Get real. The LR is a long range area denial weapon. You camp roofs and high points with it. That was its role. Saying it wasn't doesn't change the fact that it was. 2.) No it isn't. Not with these retards jumping around. 3.) Prove it. Go get a ton of kills with a LR with the game in this state. I guarantee that as son as you start burning someone, they will just jump away. No amount of aiming skill can track that ****. And its a broken skill:power anyway. "Press X to get away with no consequences!" Sounds balanced. Dude people can say what they like but the LR has been all manner of suckage since we left Chromosome. Yea sure you can get kills with it, I quite like it on that old domination map with one team spawning on the hillside facing the other team who spawn much lover down. That being said you seem to have a real issue with people jumping at the minute. It almost seems as if you are looking for any hole that you can pick away at. Get yourself a suit with lots of high slots and start stacking those complex myo`s in there. Enjoy your time, enjoy the fun. Then come back and tell us how you feel, ok? Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? SCV Ready!
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 3217	Posted - 2015.03.14 13:59:00 - [54] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Tonka Legacy wrote: I sure have been hearing lots of this jumping stuff, I have only been off for like 4 days, what am I missing? Like I said. GoatSimulator514. Myofibrils make you jump like Master Cheif on bath salts. The vast majority of this moronic community is just laughing and drooling at how "cool" or "funny" it is. But in reality, its ******* stupid, and only morons would think it is in any way good for the game. 1 or 2 are fantastic for increased mobility. 3+ are silly, and trash fits that won't last a few weeks. I have to respectfully disagree, it isn't until you start getting up to 3-4+ that the extra mobility really makes an impact. However I agree they are pretty trash fits when going up against anyone who can aim worth a damn. Personally I have lost about 15m in proto jumping suits already! I just play for fun I dont care what the outcome is otherwise at the moment :) . Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? SCV Ready!
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game RUST415 1852	Posted - 2015.03.14 14:05:00 - [55] - Quote I'm testing myrofib fittings, my wallet is losing ISK so fast it is scary lol hearing Rattati note that, 1/2 are enough, I have to disagree with this completely 4/5 actually cause your suit to vault, clearing cover and gaining access to new areas 3 on the MinScout is ok, but compared to the Caldari fits or the Min Assault it's not good trying 1 on a Min Scout made very little difference to my movement and was a wasted module And I have been grass-hopping about in front of LR, if you think a biotic tanked suit can survive that.. LOL stacking myrofibs gives you some crazy ability, but in most case requires a L5 suit with no survivability So we have a new way to die and burn ISK, whats not to love so changing stacking penalties will remove the jump effect for the most part, we'll have a bit higher jumps but we will lose out on the stupidly unique ability to go to new heights where no merc has dared to leap before
Denchlad 7 Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 1817	Posted - 2015.03.14 14:19:00 - [56] - Quote If I, a person not great with the LR, can get 32/4 in an Ambush with it on a full BPO Templar fit, you're doing it wrong. Some of the Myofibs fits ive been testing are scarily good, was in the 50 Kills region with them on a Cal Assault. "Why build ontop of foundations that aren't solid?" Currently on Dust hiatus.
Ace Boone Capital Acquisitions LLC 694	Posted - 2015.03.14 14:40:00 - [57] - Quote lol all these scrubs coming at Fizzer calling him a scrub. It was already hard to aim with the over-sensitive LR, now they can jerk up 40 feet in the air? LOL. Rattati is a joke, no wonder he works on a skeleton crew. Only loyal to the republic. PSN: TerrifiedPotato I'm nothing more than bittervet without a PS3.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6683	Posted - 2015.03.14 15:03:00 - [58] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: 1. Only noobs are camping with LR 2. LR is just as good as before hotfix echo. 3. When someone's jumping it doesn't make him untrackable. Just aim people. Just aim. Agreed.
DRT 99 Commando Perkone Caldari State 268	Posted - 2015.03.14 18:30:00 - [59] - Quote Im just happy thos horrible catwalks in the train map are acessible from below now.
Thumb Green The Valyrian Mercenary Army 2133	Posted - 2015.03.14 18:53:00 - [60] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Tonka Legacy wrote: I sure have been hearing lots of this jumping stuff, I have only been off for like 4 days, what am I missing? Like I said. GoatSimulator514. Myofibrils make you jump like Master Cheif on bath salts. The vast majority of this moronic community is just laughing and drooling at how "cool" or "funny" it is. But in reality, its ******* stupid, and only morons would think it is in any way good for the game. 1 or 2 are fantastic for increased mobility. 3+ are silly, and trash fits that won't last a few weeks. I use 3 on my throw away uplink fit and that'll last forever. You underestimate the importance of getting an uplink in a normally hard or impossible to reach place that also isn't too good of a spot that your team wants to camp it; Myo's are the perfect for this and the more the merrier. Edit: I'm not for or against any changes to Myo jumps. Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty hipster! Rated [TV-MA]



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