With more bias on "my acr" than logi work, ah I see. Might as well run an assault mk.0. Seems cover and tactics have gone the way of run and gun madness. Have fun standing around cru's and tight doorways only to get nuked by shotgun/re's. Boing boing boing.

I'm going to spec out of logi and take my protection into my own assault/scout hands.

I'm not trolling only saying that my survival and my teams needs are at odds right now.

Soooo... another day at the office in the life of a Logi?

I wouldn't be saying anything if things haven't obviously changed on the tactics front. Wouldn't call these last two days typical of logi work.

My question is -- why are there always a healthy supply of logis if logis suck?

Logis don't need a buff and echo affects nothing in terms of logi survivability.

Logis don't need a buff and echo affects nothing in terms of logi survivability.

I'm tending that way. No reason to run a proto hive, when advanced hives carry just as many clusters for less isk. No reason to run a repper, when wildly increased mobility makes it that much harder to keep anyone in rep range. No reason to run a logi suit, when they're underpowered and overpriced, and CCP does nothing with the feedback in a 70+ page thread on the subject.

Anyone running a logi should consider stopping/cutting back. CCP won't do anything to fix logis as long as players persist trying to use a broken class instead of abandoning it. I'm deleting most of my fits for all four race's proto logis. I'll keep a couple fits, in case I get a good squad with at least three heavies that need support.

I'm tending towards a plasma cannon scout. Its wildly better at deploying links, carries more than enough ammo to never need logi support, and one-hit-kills most infantry, while being much more useful against the newly buffed tanks. It costs a fraction as much, and improves my K/D ratio insanely. So I'll probably be running uplinks/hives or REs/hives for the foreseeable future.

With more bias on "my acr" than logi work, ah I see. Might as well run an assault mk.0. Seems cover and tactics have gone the way of run and gun madness. Have fun standing around cru's and tight doorways only to get nuked by shotgun/re's. Boing boing boing.

I'm going to spec out of logi and take my protection into my own assault/scout hands.

Buff logis? This is definitely not the only way to go about it. If you're playing logis as the force multipliers they are meant to be, why not buff the force we're meant to be multiplying?

My standard Minmatar logi runs advanced up links, hives and a rep tool, and I can easily dictate where a fight is going to get drawn out. Perhaps this will change as people discover the "wisdom" of myofibrils but I highly doubt it. My equipment camps have time and time again been slowly destroyed by a force that is simply stronger than ours, not instantly popped by a few bunny hoppers. I have yet to see these grasshoppers single-handedly do the work the whole enemy team usually has to do.

Perhaps a squad of 6 bounding into the fray as if sent by divine providence could disrupt my work but if me dropping 6 guys from a dropship into the middle of a gunfight doesn't work out as well as I hoped I don't see why this will be any different.

May change in future as more people spec into grasshopper fits as I like to call them, but then once again it's being overwhelmed by sheer force not the fact they can jump higher.

Buff logis? This is definitely not the only way to go about it. If you're playing logis as the force multipliers they are meant to be, why not buff the force we're meant to be multiplying?

Logistics has 300 eHP max on amarr.
240 Minimal on Minmatar.

Are less tanked than basics yet are slower than basics.

Assaults have 160 eHP extra which,according to armor plates,should make them slower than logistics.
Yet logistics are slower than even heavier tanked assaults.

If 240 sounds familiar,it's because that's the same as the AM scout.

That's right,Min logistics has as much eHP as a scout,yet is almost as slow as a commando.

If that's not broken IDK what is.

So yes,buff logistics.

P.S. To add salt to the wound,they even cost more.

youre ignoring the dive bombing shotty / RE scouts that can clearly make out the bright yellow suits from 3 storeys up in mid flight.

No I'm sorry, I'm not. A good logi in a good squad can dominate a fight. I die a lot less in my logi suit than anything else because I treat is as it's supposed to be used and surround myself with other players. I pulled out my logi mk.o on the release of echo and went like 8/2, scored 5000 WP, and made 900k isk. I just can't fathom buffing the suit more when it can do that.

One thing I've noticed about a lot of logis that I kill is that they have no spacial awareness. I'm not sure if the role attracts less gun game oriented people but I do know for a fact that a lot of them ignore precision enhancers. I always put two on my logi and keep one eye on the mini map. In fact I usually use a dampener as well. A good logi doesn't need a lot of HP.

Buff logis? This is definitely not the only way to go about it. If you're playing logis as the force multipliers they are meant to be, why not buff the force we're meant to be multiplying?