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![Captain Africa Clone1 Captain Africa Clone1](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Captain Africa Clone1
GRIM MERCS
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Posted - 2015.03.11 12:53:00 -
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I never ***** on the forums ...but really this **** is getting to me .
Join the March ,see the universe , meet interesting people and kill them
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robin williams' ghost
whisky tango foxtrot sir
1010
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Posted - 2015.03.11 12:54:00 -
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So you're an amarr complaining about scrambler rifles? Ironic...
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
1309
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Posted - 2015.03.11 12:54:00 -
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Quit running caldari, problem solved.
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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Francois Sanchez
Prima Gallicus
312
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Posted - 2015.03.11 12:57:00 -
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Of course it's OP, but people keep thinking the heat mechanic compensates. Heat doesn't matter because the target is dead before the weapon overheats or you can switch to your SMG to finish the work. Even with the weapon switching you get the kill faster than anyone else would do with another rifle |
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Captain Africa Clone1
GRIM MERCS
189
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Posted - 2015.03.11 12:58:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Quit running caldari, problem solved.
Yea tell me about it ..so sad ..I really like the look of it !
Make a plan Rati!
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
Warpoint Sharx
161
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Posted - 2015.03.11 13:02:00 -
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Don't get shot. Guaranteed to extend the life of your clone. |
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Captain Africa Clone1
GRIM MERCS
189
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Posted - 2015.03.11 13:20:00 -
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Don't get shot. Guaranteed to extend the life of your clone.
Don't be a smart ass , guarantees friendly replies !
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
5824
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Posted - 2015.03.11 13:28:00 -
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No actual math or in game footage of said Op'ness?
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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Vapor Forseti
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1833
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Posted - 2015.03.11 13:31:00 -
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Captain Africa Clone1 wrote:LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Don't get shot. Guaranteed to extend the life of your clone. Don't be a smart ass , guarantees friendly replies ! Don't exactly see how this warrants a "smart ass", but whatever. Calm your ****.
Alsoooo
Nocturnal Soul wrote:No actual math or in game footage of said Op'ness?
So sexy, she'll pass out.
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Captain Africa Clone1
GRIM MERCS
191
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Posted - 2015.03.11 13:33:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:No actual math or in game footage of said Op'ness?
No just going on over two years dust experience ...Like I said initially, I'm the last one shouting about op weapons but scramble rifle is starting to get under my skin...
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STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
460
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Posted - 2015.03.11 13:34:00 -
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Captain Africa Clone1 wrote:I never ***** on the forums ...but really this **** is getting to me .
Rattati has noticed. Here is his post admitting it is the most "efficient" rifle of them all:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2587693#post2587693
Basically, he states that he won't nerf it until he sees more people using it.
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Raptor Princess
ALLOTEC INC
165
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Posted - 2015.03.11 13:36:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Quit running caldari, problem solved.
I never run Caldari but can get taken out in 1-3 shots by the scr in my min or gal suits. |
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2562
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Posted - 2015.03.11 13:43:00 -
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Q.Q
"I will not nerf the Scrambler Rifle..." -CCP Rattati
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9334
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Posted - 2015.03.11 14:10:00 -
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Came in expecting maths. Such disappoint.
Amarr are the good guys
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
3800
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Posted - 2015.03.11 14:36:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Quit running caldari, problem solved.
Seriously?
Shield tanking is hard mode /period.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
3800
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Posted - 2015.03.11 14:38:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Q.Q
"I will not nerf the Scrambler Rifle..." -CCP Rattati
I bet if there was an armor-based equivalent, it would be nerfed. Doesn't matter to him when he's running around with an officer gallente assault blueprint.
Shield tanking is hard mode /period.
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Jade Dragonis
GRIM MERCS
419
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Posted - 2015.03.11 14:41:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Q.Q
"I will not nerf the Scrambler Rifle..." -CCP Rattati I bet if there was an armor-based equivalent, it would be nerfed. Doesn't matter to him when he's running around with an officer gallente assault blueprint.
Havent you heard they nerfing the HMG? lol.
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Francois Sanchez
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2015.03.11 14:47:00 -
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Jade Dragonis wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Q.Q
"I will not nerf the Scrambler Rifle..." -CCP Rattati I bet if there was an armor-based equivalent, it would be nerfed. Doesn't matter to him when he's running around with an officer gallente assault blueprint. Havent you heard they nerfing the HMG? lol.
Yup, now the scamrbler rifle will have a higher DPS than the HMG, just lol. |
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DozersMouse XIII
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
988
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Posted - 2015.03.11 14:49:00 -
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I will still slay you with my scr even if it gets nerfed again.
Shotgun me once, shame on me
Shotgun me twice, scans on you
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UlyssesWrath
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.03.11 14:50:00 -
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Francois Sanchez wrote:Of course it's OP, but people keep thinking the heat mechanic compensates. Heat doesn't matter because the target is dead before the weapon overheats or you can switch to your SMG to finish the work. Even with the weapon switching you get the kill faster than anyone else would do with another rifle
i 1 shot-ed a heavy with the scrambler rifle once it was glorious. |
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
1311
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Posted - 2015.03.11 14:57:00 -
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UlyssesWrath wrote:Francois Sanchez wrote:Of course it's OP, but people keep thinking the heat mechanic compensates. Heat doesn't matter because the target is dead before the weapon overheats or you can switch to your SMG to finish the work. Even with the weapon switching you get the kill faster than anyone else would do with another rifle i 1 shot-ed a heavy with the scrambler rifle once it was glorious. Math says otherwise..
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Genral69 death
Random Gunz RISE of LEGION
100
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Posted - 2015.03.11 15:02:00 -
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Captain Africa Clone1 wrote:I never ***** on the forums ...but really this **** is getting to me . 4 fuc sake stop bitching about needing guns that your choose of suit is weak about . Have u tryed the scrambler? What's next you gona ***** about lasers being op |
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
2951
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Posted - 2015.03.11 15:14:00 -
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The Scrambler Rifle is a MLT/STD pwner because of its very high alpha-damage charged shot. It scares the hell out of people, but you will probably overheat before killing any decent armor tanked suit. In that sense, the ttk is very low toward any low tank suit, but becomes significantly much higher against well-tanked suit. After all, the Tac AR has a much higher Dps both because of its more covenient damage profile and its higher base damage. I'm pretty certain that any kind of nerf would destroy the weapon, but maybe a charged shot damage nerf ( and relative buff to heat buildup and charge time) would be accepted by both scrambler users and the others.
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
2272
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Posted - 2015.03.11 15:23:00 -
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Captain Africa Clone1 wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Quit running caldari, problem solved. Yea tell me about it ..so sad ..I really like the look of it ! Make a plan Rati! are REs OP to heavys? are missile tanks OP to madrugers? are swarms OP to dropships? are nova knives OP to heavys? are mass drivers OP to gallente scouts? are gallente scouts with shotguns OP to min scouts? or is the scrambler rifle the counter to caldari suits?
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
8237
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Posted - 2015.03.11 15:27:00 -
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+20% damage vs. shields -20% damage vs. armor
It shouldn't surprise anyone when a ScR completely annihilates a shield tanking dropsuit. That is working as intended. I run armor dropsuits and I literally could give less than two ***** if someone is aiming a ScR at me... which is also working as intended.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2562
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Posted - 2015.03.11 15:36:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Came in expecting maths. Such disappoint. The problem is that they don't have any maths other than, "Luk at de paper Dps! It so hi!"
It never crosses their small minds that the ScRs DPS barely outdoes the DPS of Standard ARs in practice. I've said it about 75836574 times now. The real DPS of an SCR almost never goes above 475-525, and never above that accurately. CRs can handily outDPS it in practice.
Or that it has the single highest fitting costs amongst all light weapons. Or that it is one of the 4 light weapons that overheats, and is the fastest to do so at that. Or that, amongst the racial rifles, it requires the most player skill.
Nope. None of those things. Just "it duz so muh damage to my sheelds". plz nerf rat!"
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BEAST ESD1
Y.A.M.A.H
74
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Posted - 2015.03.11 15:41:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:Captain Africa Clone1 wrote:I never ***** on the forums ...but really this **** is getting to me . 4 fuc sake stop bitching about needing guns that your choose of suit is weak about . Have u tryed the scrambler? What's next you gona ***** about lasers being op
7. Use of profanity is prohibited. The use of profanity is prohibited on the DUST 514 forums. This includes the partial masking of letters using numbers or alternate symbols, and any attempts at bypassing the profanity filter.
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Francois Sanchez
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2015.03.11 15:50:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Came in expecting maths. Such disappoint. The problem is that they don't have any maths other than, "Luk at de paper Dps! It so hi!" It never crosses their small minds that the ScRs DPS barely outdoes the DPS of Standard ARs in practice. I've said it about 75836574 times now. The real DPS of an SCR almost never goes above 475-525, and never above that accurately. CRs can handily outDPS it in practice. Or that it has the single highest fitting costs amongst all light weapons, while CRs, which rival it, have the least... Or that it is one of the 4 light weapons that overheats, and is the fastest to do so at that. Or that, amongst the racial rifles, it requires the most player skill. Nope. None of those things. Just "it duz so muh damage to my sheelds". plz nerf rat!"
The max DPS of a CR is below 430... And any good scrambler rifle user easily gets above the 500 DPS. And even if it was 475DPS, it's still above any other rifle in the game while having a long range. To me that's the problem. The ScR completely breaks the range vs DPS chart and it has nearly no kick and dispersion (which is perfectly normal for a laser weapon, but added to all the other advantages it's too much).
Anyway, if as you say the ScR can't get above 6 shots per second, you shouldn't mind if the RoF is dropped down to 420RPM (7 shots per second)
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Genral69 death
Random Gunz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.11 15:50:00 -
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BEAST ESD1 wrote:Genral69 death wrote:Captain Africa Clone1 wrote:I never ***** on the forums ...but really this **** is getting to me . 4 fuc sake stop bitching about needing guns that your choose of suit is weak about . Have u tryed the scrambler? What's next you gona ***** about lasers being op 7. Use of profanity is prohibited. The use of profanity is prohibited on the DUST 514 forums. This includes the partial masking of letters using numbers or alternate symbols, and any attempts at bypassing the profanity filter. rule braking is strong with this one ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png) Lol. Naaa slag combined with really fast typing nprmaly does it =ƒÿâ |
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game RUST415
1003
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Posted - 2015.03.11 15:57:00 -
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Prove it.
*whispers : it's time to destroy all the evidences*
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