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Rinzler XVII
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.10 20:49:00 -
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when you getting scanned in your own redline after spawning in with a min scout with the complex damps N you get scanned you know there broken
Proto scout with 3 complex damps *
How can 1 piece of equipment require so much to counter it when the scanner has no drawbacks?
I Fight for the User
It's a shame that my user sucks at DUST
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
3134
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Posted - 2015.03.10 20:50:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote:when you getting scanned in your own redline after spawning in with a min scout with the complex damps N you get scanned you know there broken
tonite I'm gona rock you tonite
KDR matchmaking fixes everything but the stupid purple Quafe stuff.
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
1379
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Posted - 2015.03.10 21:12:00 -
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Dear op, can u change "scanners" in thread subj to "scouts"? Thank you.
Please support fair play!
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Jaran Vilktar
CORP SIX KING Smart Deploy
150
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Posted - 2015.03.10 21:19:00 -
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"You Have Been Scanned"
I can't believe I did it. 514 Logins
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8360
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Posted - 2015.03.10 21:23:00 -
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John Psi wrote:Dear op, can u change "scanners" in thread subj to "scouts"? Thank you. He could, if scouts weren't already nerfed several times while scanners have not been touched since.
The scan numbers you see now were based on a completely different meta where scout sacrifice was less significant, and where it was competing with shared passive scans.
Now that EWAR circles, Medium Frame EWAR change, and Cloaked Range Reduction have all significantly reduced Assault Scout viability AND Shared Passive Scans, its time to retool the Active Scanners.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
115
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Posted - 2015.03.10 21:29:00 -
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GALOGI & active scanner = just another example of CCP not listening to the community, they were warned. |
Assert Dominance
Negative-Feedback
979
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Posted - 2015.03.10 21:37:00 -
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f*ck scanners
6 man proto squad errday.
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Assert Dominance
Negative-Feedback
979
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Posted - 2015.03.10 21:39:00 -
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gal logi has no sacrifice to superscan, there needs to be a scout that can counter it without sacrifice.
6 man proto squad errday.
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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx
471
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Posted - 2015.03.10 21:44:00 -
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Scanning is the cornerstone of pubstomping. They should have been dealt with a long time ago but then scout scans became op and active scanning died for a while until scouts got nerfed and active scanning came roaring back. Scanners are lame. To hell with reworking them, they should be nerfed into obscurity. When that happens there might be other viable tactics besides the blob running at the scans. At most active scanners should give you a quick snapshot of the enemy's position.
"In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane"
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Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
1564
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Posted - 2015.03.10 21:48:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:gal logi has no sacrifice to superscan, there needs to be a scout that can counter it without sacrifice. >Less than 300 eHP >Slower than heavier tanked basics >1 weapon
>No sacrifice
Lol,you obviously know what you're talking about.
Official Blueberry of the Forums.
Title given by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
1379
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Posted - 2015.03.10 21:51:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:John Psi wrote:Dear op, can u change "scanners" in thread subj to "scouts"? Thank you. He could, if scouts weren't already nerfed several times while scanners have not been touched since. The scan numbers you see now were based on a completely different meta where scout sacrifice was less significant, and where it was competing with shared passive scans. Now that EWAR circles, Medium Frame EWAR change, and Cloaked Range Reduction have all significantly reduced Assault Scout viability AND Shared Passive Scans, its time to retool the Active Scanners.
Scouts must be:
1. Ewar superiority. 2. NOTHING more.
Must be used for:
1. Espionage behind enemy line (hacking and bring uplinks). 2. NOTHING more.
Please support fair play!
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
1841
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Posted - 2015.03.10 21:53:00 -
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JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:Scanning is the cornerstone of pubstomping. I believe that scouts are the cornerstones of pubstomping and anyone knows that .
You can have three scouts that are scouts and not these posers who whine in the forums , the one's that know how to be a ninja in a Amarr scout even .... and they will always guarantee victory , scouts win matches , scouts are bridges to pubstomping , scouts can control the field better then anything in this game , even vehicles .
Good scouts ensure victory and are key in PC's .
Has zero to do with scanners .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
116
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Posted - 2015.03.10 21:55:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Assert Dominance wrote:gal logi has no sacrifice to superscan, there needs to be a scout that can counter it without sacrifice. >Less than 300 eHP >Slower than heavier tanked basics >1 weapon >No sacrifice Lol,you obviously know what you're talking about.
WALL HACKS in any game are game breakers, no different in DUST.
In RL it's easier to hide than seek. |
One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8360
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Posted - 2015.03.10 21:57:00 -
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John Psi wrote:One Eyed King wrote:John Psi wrote:Dear op, can u change "scanners" in thread subj to "scouts"? Thank you. He could, if scouts weren't already nerfed several times while scanners have not been touched since. The scan numbers you see now were based on a completely different meta where scout sacrifice was less significant, and where it was competing with shared passive scans. Now that EWAR circles, Medium Frame EWAR change, and Cloaked Range Reduction have all significantly reduced Assault Scout viability AND Shared Passive Scans, its time to retool the Active Scanners. Scouts must be: 1. Ewar superiority. 2. NOTHING more. Must be used for: 1. Espionage behind enemy line (hacking and bring uplinks). 2. NOTHING more. Says who?
CCP says they are Assassins, that is something more and not up to you. This is an FPS, all characters need to have some capacity to kill.
What they SHOULDN'T be, is better Logis than a Logi (fixed with BW), and better Assaults than an Assault ("fixed" my making Assaults better Scouts).
Now that they are better balanced, Active Scanners need looked at.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
1379
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Posted - 2015.03.10 22:02:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:they will always guarantee victory , scouts win matches , scouts are bridges to pubstomping , scouts can control the field better then anything in this game , even vehicles . facepalm.jpg
Please support fair play!
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
1842
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Posted - 2015.03.10 22:02:00 -
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:
WALL HACKS in any game are game breakers, no different in DUST.
In RL it's easier to hide than seek.
While scouts can and do both better then any role in-game .
Why do you whine .?. is it because you have a DEFINED counter , while you can switch between the HP's of a light assault and commando , still have the best movement , scan , damp , OKH weapons , CQC weapons with bonus and still can fit scanners , RE's , all bio mods with e-war and a cloak for extra dampening ?
The only players who whine about scanners are these poser scouts , who can't scout like the big boys and girls well it's time to put on your big boy / girl pants and stop complaining .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
1842
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Posted - 2015.03.10 22:04:00 -
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John Psi wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:they will always guarantee victory , scouts win matches , scouts are bridges to pubstomping , scouts can control the field better then anything in this game , even vehicles . facepalm.jpg So it's not true , can you really deny this ?
It's Dust Basic 101 .
As much as I dislike these poser scouts , even I can admit this .... stop lying to these people because you know the truth .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Forlorn Destrier
Incorruptibles
3306
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Posted - 2015.03.10 22:07:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote:when you getting scanned in your own redline after spawning in with a min scout with the complex damps N you get scanned you know there broken
Proto scout with 3 complex damps *
How can 1 piece of equipment require so much to counter it when the scanner has no drawbacks?
Proto scanner on a GalLogi. Done and done.
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning
I am Havok, Incorruptible
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
1379
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Posted - 2015.03.10 22:13:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: So it's not true , can you really deny this?
It's true. And this is mistake. Heavy, logi and scouts - highly specialized class that should not be applied to solve all problems in a row.
Please support fair play!
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game RUST415
494
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Posted - 2015.03.10 22:21:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Assert Dominance wrote:gal logi has no sacrifice to superscan, there needs to be a scout that can counter it without sacrifice. >Less than 300 eHP >Slower than heavier tanked basics >1 weapon >No sacrifice Lol,you obviously know what you're talking about.
You just described a logi's sacrifice not a gal logi scanning. Try again
Caldari Loyalist
Why should infrantry that don't own vehicles, that can't balance their own mechanics, balance vehicles
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
1308
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Posted - 2015.03.10 22:25:00 -
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7 secs scans sure are OP
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
6622
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Posted - 2015.03.10 22:25:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:gal logi has no sacrifice to superscan, there needs to be a scout that can counter it without sacrifice. That would be OP, like the community agreed to when Gallente Scouts only needed 1 complex and 1 enhanced to dodge all scans. Now, we need 2 complex and 1 basic, but I'm still not complaining. |
JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game RUST415
494
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Posted - 2015.03.10 22:25:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:
WALL HACKS in any game are game breakers, no different in DUST.
In RL it's easier to hide than seek.
While scouts can and do both better then any role in-game . Why do you whine .?. is it because you have a DEFINED counter , while you can switch between the HP's of a light assault and commando , still have the best movement , scan , damp , OKH weapons , CQC weapons with bonus and still can fit scanners , RE's , all bio mods with e-war and a cloak for extra dampening ? The only players who whine about scanners are these poser scouts , who can't scout like the big boys and girls well it's time to put on your big boy / girl pants and stop complaining . What scouts are you running with all these slots
Caldari Loyalist
Why should infrantry that don't own vehicles, that can't balance their own mechanics, balance vehicles
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Vicious Minotaur
2100
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Posted - 2015.03.10 22:27:00 -
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Reworking?
How about NO.
Removal. That's what scanners need.
I am a minotaur.
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game RUST415
494
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Posted - 2015.03.10 22:29:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Assert Dominance wrote:gal logi has no sacrifice to superscan, there needs to be a scout that can counter it without sacrifice. That would be OP, like the community agreed to when Gallente Scouts only needed 1 complex and 1 enhanced to dodge all scans. Now, we need 2 complex and 1 basic, but I'm still not complaining. But they still need a draw back scouts use up slots for damps which could've been used for CB's or bio mods, but the scanner can scan them if they would like to run something else without any consequences. And besides, thats only 1 scout of 4
Caldari Loyalist
Why should infrantry that don't own vehicles, that can't balance their own mechanics, balance vehicles
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game RUST415
494
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Posted - 2015.03.10 22:32:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:Joel II X wrote:Assert Dominance wrote:gal logi has no sacrifice to superscan, there needs to be a scout that can counter it without sacrifice. That would be OP, like the community agreed to when Gallente Scouts only needed 1 complex and 1 enhanced to dodge all scans. Now, we need 2 complex and 1 basic, but I'm still not complaining. But they still need a draw back scouts, use up slots for damps which could've been used for CB's or bio mods, but the scanner can scan them if they would like to run something else without any consequences. And besides, thats only 1 scout of 4
Caldari Loyalist
Why should infrantry that don't own vehicles, that can't balance their own mechanics, balance vehicles
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
1380
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Posted - 2015.03.10 22:38:00 -
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Let me explain the problem: all classes of fighters in this game - the goods on the shelf, quality and purpose should be constant. Unfortunately, this is not the case and everything is constantly crying that screwdriver, which they wanted to use as a hammer, began to work only as a screwdriver.
...remember - the one who wants to sell you a screwdriver, call her at least helicopter, if only you buy it.
Please support fair play!
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Foo Fighting
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
199
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Posted - 2015.03.10 22:50:00 -
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The 90 degree 200m scanner is op, the rest would be ok if limited to squad share only. Plus chevrons on my screen for reds on the other side of the map annoy me no end. |
John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
1380
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Posted - 2015.03.10 22:58:00 -
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Foo Fighting wrote:...chevrons on my screen for reds on the other side of the map annoy me no end. it's just a mess. commander specifically disclaims insignia and the soldiers do not take the salute at the sight of the enemy. here on the contrary, the commander holds over a banner with big letters "I am the commander, kill me, depriving my squad coordination"
Please support fair play!
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
1844
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Posted - 2015.03.10 23:12:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:
WALL HACKS in any game are game breakers, no different in DUST.
In RL it's easier to hide than seek.
While scouts can and do both better then any role in-game . Why do you whine .?. is it because you have a DEFINED counter , while you can switch between the HP's of a light assault and commando , still have the best movement , scan , damp , OKH weapons , CQC weapons with bonus and still can fit scanners , RE's , all bio mods with e-war and a cloak for extra dampening ? The only players who whine about scanners are these poser scouts , who can't scout like the big boys and girls well it's time to put on your big boy / girl pants and stop complaining . What scouts are you running with all these slots LOL
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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