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SOGGY GRANDMA
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.07 20:32:00 -
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They are fast, they are hard to detect even without cloaks, they can 1 hit or 1 shot just about anything, and they are hard to hit.
Ok so maybe they can get a few rounds of a shotgun in ur back but by the time the first shot hits you, it's a 75% chance your going down.
With RE's, Kin Kats, Damp's, and Strafe, the scout is considered a frontline assault.
My opinion is that scouts need to be more like scouts. Instead of 2 weapon slots they should just have a sidearm slot for knives, or smg, or pistols. They should also have 1 equipment slot to better their roll in the game. Min scouts have hacking bonus so use a cloak, gal scouts are hardest to detect and can be very fast with kin kats so they can place links. Cal scout see everything and are best for intel so why not a scanner. Amarr scouts idk what they are special for but im sure they can be used for something. Meat shield can be an oprion.
I believe this will try to force them to pick their battles instead of going in head first with guns pointed at them throwing RE's and killing 6 people in one shot. (Side note: if you throw an RE and die before detonating the RE then the RE should not be able to blow up because the source of the threat was eliminated regardless of respawn.) Scouts before abusing the RE's and using cloak were deadly because they were hard to detect. The shotgun was their best friend and if you sniped the knives were in your back if you were not paying attention.
Maybe no one cares and thats probably why its unbalanced. Why ruin a good thing right? |
Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance
568
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Posted - 2015.03.07 20:33:00 -
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.... I would respect your post more if you did it on your main account >.>
The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y,
I'm that Heavy you warn your team about <3
-Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
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SOGGY GRANDMA
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2015.03.07 20:36:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:.... I would respect your post more if you did it on your main account >.> Sorry I have not had the chance to get on today to switch to my main. |
CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
3184
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Posted - 2015.03.07 20:45:00 -
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Meat shield Amarr scout...... hahaha dude gtfo
Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa?
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
5728
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Posted - 2015.03.07 20:47:00 -
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The sidearm only thing needs to die in a fire
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
5728
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Posted - 2015.03.07 20:48:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Meat shield Amarr scout...... hahaha dude gtfo He's right you know.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance
570
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Posted - 2015.03.07 20:49:00 -
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SOGGY GRANDMA wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:.... I would respect your post more if you did it on your main account >.> Sorry I have not had the chance to get on today to switch to my main. But.... It's right up there where you signed in at to the forums o.o
Why didn't you just sign in as your main? You can technically do that right now as you are reading this D:
The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y,
I'm that Heavy you warn your team about <3
-Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
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SOGGY GRANDMA
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2015.03.07 20:51:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:SOGGY GRANDMA wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:.... I would respect your post more if you did it on your main account >.> Sorry I have not had the chance to get on today to switch to my main. But.... It's right up there where you signed in at to the forums o.o Why didn't you just sign in as your main? You can technically do that right now as you are reading this D: It does not work. Maybe cuz I only use my pre paid android to use the forums. |
Varoth Drac
Dead Man's Game RUST415
645
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Posted - 2015.03.07 20:51:00 -
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Scouts are not considered a frontline assault. They are not as effective as assaults at this and are better played as scouts.
The term 'scout' refers to the action of moving ahead of the frontline. This allows a scout to perform actions behind enemy lines and attack from unexpected directions or advantageous positions, i.e. 5m from your arse with a shotgun. It also allows them to reach locations and react to situations sooner than other roles.
I rarely see effective deviation from this behaviour, which leads me to believe scouts are fitting their role nicely. |
Crimson ShieId
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
2054
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Posted - 2015.03.07 20:51:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:.... I would respect your post more if you did it on your main account >.>
I'd respect the complaint a bit more if it happened a few months ago. As is, scouts are quite balanced at this point. The recent nerfs have put them into a reasonable area in comparison with other suits. Yes, shotgun scouts are still annoying and the cloak can still tick people off when the cloaker manages to escape situations that should have resulted in death, but Ewar has been nerfed into the ground for scouts and the cloak has taken several hits as well.
RE's are not scout only weapons, assaults, logis and even commandos can utilize them, so if you're going for a scout nerf, leave the RE's out of it.
If you want to actually play as a scout at this point, you're at a severe disadvantage in terms of health. Ewar is no longer what it used to be, and when you stack enough Ewar modules to actually see your targets at a safe distance to react accordingly, you're generally going to have both very low HP and be very easy to scan.
I want to punch.
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Union118
Heaven's Lost Property
410
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Posted - 2015.03.07 20:55:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Meat shield Amarr scout...... hahaha dude gtfo Idk dude I was tring to think what they are best at.
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
5729
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Posted - 2015.03.07 20:56:00 -
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Union118 wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Meat shield Amarr scout...... hahaha dude gtfo Idk dude I was tring to think what they are best at. Nothing Mk.0 and gal logi do its roles better without as much sp investment.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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Union118
Heaven's Lost Property
410
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Posted - 2015.03.07 20:57:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:This sidearm only thing needs to die in a fire Why I think if a logi has only main weapon scouts should only have side weapon. Scouts should rarely be fighting gun battles. They are scouts and should be every essence of the word.
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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Infine Sentinel
Better Hide R Die
820
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Posted - 2015.03.07 20:57:00 -
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Reserved for when I can think of a witty comment.
Local forum Cannibal.
Creator Of The Lego Shoe Idea.
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Union118
Heaven's Lost Property
410
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Posted - 2015.03.07 20:58:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:SOGGY GRANDMA wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:.... I would respect your post more if you did it on your main account >.> Sorry I have not had the chance to get on today to switch to my main. But.... It's right up there where you signed in at to the forums o.o Why didn't you just sign in as your main? You can technically do that right now as you are reading this D: Omg it finally worked. THANKS
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
5730
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Posted - 2015.03.07 21:02:00 -
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Union118 wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:This sidearm only thing needs to die in a fire Why I think if a logi has only main weapon scouts should only have side weapon. Scouts should rarely be fighting gun battles. They are scouts and should be every essence of the word. Guess you haven't heard of an Amarr logi
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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Union118
Heaven's Lost Property
410
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Posted - 2015.03.07 21:20:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Union118 wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:This sidearm only thing needs to die in a fire Why I think if a logi has only main weapon scouts should only have side weapon. Scouts should rarely be fighting gun battles. They are scouts and should be every essence of the word. Guess you haven't heard of an Amarr logi Never used on so no I have not.
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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Archduke Ferd1nand
Nos Nothi
149
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Posted - 2015.03.07 21:23:00 -
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Oh look, its the same person who made 7 different alts to spam GD with anti scout threads until the sheep's opinions were turned, and the scout got nerfed.
STFU, HTFU, and git gud scrub.
BRB, looking for socks
Asslut Rifles OP, anal now
I shit shotgun shells and piss Remote Explosives
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8281
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Posted - 2015.03.07 21:28:00 -
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This is what we tried to make happen before the EWAR and other changes, to make Scouts less like Assaults.
However, since Assaults were made to be more like Scouts, simply changing the Scout side of the equation will only reduce their numbers much more significantly.
I am hoping this is a troll, because I can't believe that with some of the numbers of suit usage you would somehow believe Scouts are still competing with Assaults on front lines. It is a preposterous conclusion.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Cody Sietz
Random Gunz RISE of LEGION
4416
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Posted - 2015.03.07 21:31:00 -
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So Minmatar get to keep there main weapon(Nova Knives) but Gallente lose the shotgun?
Yeah, no.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Ghost Kaisar
Negative-Feedback
10385
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Posted - 2015.03.07 21:38:00 -
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Union118 wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:This sidearm only thing needs to die in a fire Why I think if a logi has only main weapon scouts should only have side weapon. Scouts should rarely be fighting gun battles. They are scouts and should be every essence of the word.
In exchange, I want a full shroud cloak that makes me damn near impossible to see while moving.
I should never be scanned with 2x damps, not even by Gal Logi Focused
2x Precision will light up everything within 30m (Barring scouts)
Intel Kill assists for passive scans.
If you want me to run around without killing people, I better be damn well able to avoid engagements. Scouts are definitely not able to dodge all engagements and still have a viable role.
Until then, I will be packing a Six Kin ACR and I WILL kill you if you get in the way of my job.
Currently listening to: Max Anarchy OST
Old School Scout, watch out for the knives
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BLOOD Ruler
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
1116
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Posted - 2015.03.07 22:07:00 -
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Only one sidearm slot,NO I need knives and pistol... 2 sidearm slots.
Feel The Burning Pain Of My Knives While Your Skull And Mind Is Wrecked By My Pistol. I am the Assassin.
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge VP Gaming Alliance
3132
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Posted - 2015.03.07 22:12:00 -
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SOGGY GRANDMA wrote:They are fast, they are hard to detect even without cloaks, they can 1 hit or 1 shot just about anything, and they are hard to hit.
Ok so maybe they can get a few rounds of a shotgun in ur back but by the time the first shot hits you, it's a 75% chance your going down.
With RE's, Kin Kats, Damp's, and Strafe, the scout is considered a frontline assault.
My opinion is that scouts need to be more like scouts. Instead of 2 weapon slots they should just have a sidearm slot for knives, or smg, or pistols. They should also have 1 equipment slot to better their roll in the game. Min scouts have hacking bonus so use a cloak, gal scouts are hardest to detect and can be very fast with kin kats so they can place links. Cal scout see everything and are best for intel so why not a scanner. Amarr scouts idk what they are special for but im sure they can be used for something. Meat shield can be an oprion.
I believe this will try to force them to pick their battles instead of going in head first with guns pointed at them throwing RE's and killing 6 people in one shot. (Side note: if you throw an RE and die before detonating the RE then the RE should not be able to blow up because the source of the threat was eliminated regardless of respawn.) Scouts before abusing the RE's and using cloak were deadly because they were hard to detect. The shotgun was their best friend and if you sniped the knives were in your back if you were not paying attention.
Maybe no one cares and thats probably why its unbalanced. Why ruin a good thing right? You are late. Scouts were OP in 1.8, not now.
I would say they are UP now. As scouts they are outdone by assaults, which also cover the assault role.
No, it will force them into extinction. Yes, exactly why scouts are unbalanced. Not enough people care to look into how weak we actually are.
Fuck the silver, let's go for the gold
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I am what haunts your dreams at night.
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
1285
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Posted - 2015.03.07 22:31:00 -
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Scout - a person(s) or equipment (drone, airplane, robotic camera, ect.) used to collect information, usually without being seen or detected.
Assault - a sudden, violent attack.
Which definition better fits scouts in the current meta?
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge VP Gaming Alliance
3132
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Posted - 2015.03.07 22:36:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:So Minmatar get to keep there main weapon(Nova Knives) but Gallente lose the shotgun?
Yeah, no. Nova Knives are Caldari...
Fuck the silver, let's go for the gold
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I am what haunts your dreams at night.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8288
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Posted - 2015.03.07 22:37:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Scout - a person(s) or equipment (drone, airplane, robotic camera, ect.) used to collect information, usually without being seen or detected.
Assault - a sudden, violent attack.
Which definition better fits scouts in the current meta? Your own bias definitions without any citations don't hold any weight here I am afraid.
CCP gets to decide what Scouts and Assaults are meant to be.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge VP Gaming Alliance
3132
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Posted - 2015.03.07 22:39:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Scout - a person(s) or equipment (drone, airplane, robotic camera, ect.) used to collect information, usually without being seen or detected.
Assault - a sudden, violent attack.
Which definition better fits scouts in the current meta? Scout.
Actually I believe 'Suicide' would be a better term.
Speaking of suicide, you can actually kill people by suicide now!
Fuck the silver, let's go for the gold
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I am what haunts your dreams at night.
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
1286
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Posted - 2015.03.07 22:41:00 -
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/scout http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/assault
Dictionary.coms definition, not mine
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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Cypher Nil
Fireteam Tempest
3
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Posted - 2015.03.07 22:43:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:This sidearm only thing needs to die in a fire
Could not agree more, for one the shotgun is only useful at really close range, who else but a fast moving scout that can cloak is going to close that distance in what is mostly a large open map game? |
sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge VP Gaming Alliance
3132
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Posted - 2015.03.07 22:46:00 -
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Check my post.
Fuck the silver, let's go for the gold
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I am what haunts your dreams at night.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8289
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Posted - 2015.03.07 22:46:00 -
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At least you used citations.
However, I don't recall Dictionary.com developing Dust...
FYI, scouts were used in battle historically. Just look at Gettysburg for example. Lee's scouts (who were notoriously out of touch in the days prior), were used to try to flank the fish hook and try to take Little Round Top. They were stopped before they could really do anything, but they still fought.
Again, your bias is showing and holds no weight.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
7865
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Posted - 2015.03.07 22:47:00 -
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Union118 wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:This sidearm only thing needs to die in a fire Why I think if a logi has only main weapon scouts should only have side weapon. Scouts should rarely be fighting gun battles. They are scouts and should be every essence of the word. Scout is a misnomer. It would be better to change their name than their attributes.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
1286
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Posted - 2015.03.07 22:51:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:At least you used citations. However, I don't recall Dictionary.com developing Dust... FYI, scouts were used in battle historically. Just look at Gettysburg for example. Lee's scouts (who were notoriously out of touch in the days prior), were used to try to flank the fish hook and try to take Little Round Top. They were stopped before they could really do anything, but they still fought. Again, your bias is showing and holds no weight. How am I being biased when I simply quoted the definition and asked if it accurately represented the class? If anything you are being clouded by your bias towards scouts.
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
1286
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Posted - 2015.03.07 22:53:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Union118 wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:This sidearm only thing needs to die in a fire Why I think if a logi has only main weapon scouts should only have side weapon. Scouts should rarely be fighting gun battles. They are scouts and should be every essence of the word. Scout is a misnomer. It would be better to change their name than their attributes. Exactly. Scouts in this game are not "scouts" by definition. They should simply called ninjas or maybe even "Surprise! Buttsex!"
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8289
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Posted - 2015.03.07 23:00:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:One Eyed King wrote:At least you used citations. However, I don't recall Dictionary.com developing Dust... FYI, scouts were used in battle historically. Just look at Gettysburg for example. Lee's scouts (who were notoriously out of touch in the days prior), were used to try to flank the fish hook and try to take Little Round Top. They were stopped before they could really do anything, but they still fought. Again, your bias is showing and holds no weight. How am I being biased when I simply quoted the definition and asked if it accurately represented the class? If anything you are being clouded by your bias towards scouts. As a whole, those who have been using such definitions wish to limit Scouts to doing nothing a conventional FPS requires.
I think all classes should have a role, including Scouts.
When Assaults were UP, I offered suggestions and support to bring them up to par.
I am certainly bias towards Scouts, but I neither want them OP nor UP, anymore than any other role.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Sinboto Simmons
Dead Man's Game RUST415
7912
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Posted - 2015.03.07 23:06:00 -
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I want you to look up the meaning to these: Commando, logistic, scout, light attack vehicle, deployment vehicle.
Come bacback, then say every one of them performs as they should ingame.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2
Born of the Brutor tribe
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
1289
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Posted - 2015.03.07 23:08:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:P14GU3 wrote:One Eyed King wrote:At least you used citations. However, I don't recall Dictionary.com developing Dust... FYI, scouts were used in battle historically. Just look at Gettysburg for example. Lee's scouts (who were notoriously out of touch in the days prior), were used to try to flank the fish hook and try to take Little Round Top. They were stopped before they could really do anything, but they still fought. Again, your bias is showing and holds no weight. How am I being biased when I simply quoted the definition and asked if it accurately represented the class? If anything you are being clouded by your bias towards scouts. As a whole, those who have been using such definitions wish to limit Scouts to doing nothing a conventional FPS requires. I think all classes should have a role, including Scouts. When Assaults were UP, I offered suggestions and support to bring them up to par. I am certainly bias towards Scouts, but I neither want them OP nor UP, anymore than any other role. You assume the worst of me. I neither want OP nor UP scouts either. In fact, I have always wanted nothing but balance and roles amongst all classes. Right now, I dont see a role for scout other than sneaky assault. Scouts should be hacking, scanning, relaying intel, dropping links, ect. IMO. The fact that I choose my scout 4/5 times over my assault for ASSAULT-like duties, says the something is wrong with the scout class. And I run supposedly the best Assault in the game..
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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Zindorak
Nyain Chan
1722
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Posted - 2015.03.07 23:12:00 -
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Scouts are fine
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Give me da iskiez
Gk0 Scout yay :)
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
1289
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Posted - 2015.03.07 23:17:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:I want you to look up the meaning to these: Commando, logistic, scout, light attack vehicle, deployment vehicle.
Come bacback, then say every one of them performs as they should ingame. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/logistics - sounds pretty spot on to me http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/commando - pretty generic definition.. Couldnt find a real definition for LAV or deployment vehicle..
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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Cypher Nil
Fireteam Tempest
5
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Posted - 2015.03.07 23:19:00 -
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Scouts in games are not considered the same as scouts in a real life military. A scout in a video game just means a fast moving, often less health game character who can navigate around the map quickly and strike enemy's hard with flanking manoeuvre or evade with superior movement speed.
The same way clips of ammo in video games are not the same as clips of ammo in a real life military. what we call a clip in a game is actually referred to as a magazine.
Scouts fit the gameplay role they are designed for, so do heavy's. presently its medium frames that need some work as they don't seem to excel at a unique role on the field.
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Cody Sietz
Random Gunz RISE of LEGION
4419
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Posted - 2015.03.07 23:27:00 -
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So is the Searm but the Minmatar get a bonus to that weapon as well.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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FLAYLOCK Steve
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
448
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Posted - 2015.03.07 23:30:00 -
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The most stupidest post I've ever ever read. Scouts are so weak now, just sneezing on us will kill us. I'm a main min scout, and everyone and their blind grandma can see us. Don't try to talk about scouts if you haven't even used tthem as a main. Milita assault suits can own us no problem. |
P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
1289
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Posted - 2015.03.07 23:32:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:The most stupidest post I've ever ever read. Scouts are so weak now, just sneezing on us will kill us. I'm a main min scout, and everyone and their blind grandma can see us. Don't try to talk about scouts if you haven't even used tthem as a main. Milita assault suits can own us no problem. You also take the hardest scout to use and lump it in with the rest of the others. I have used every scout but the amarr and the min is completely different from the cal/gal, which are fairly easy-mode IMO..
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge VP Gaming Alliance
3132
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Posted - 2015.03.08 00:14:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:The most stupidest post I've ever ever read. Scouts are so weak now, just sneezing on us will kill us. I'm a main min scout, and everyone and their blind grandma can see us. Don't try to talk about scouts if you haven't even used tthem as a main. Milita assault suits can own us no problem. You also take the hardest scout to use and lump it in with the rest of the others. I have used every scout but the amarr and the min is completely different from the cal/gal, which are fairly easy-mode IMO.. I do believe you are lying there, the Minscout is actually the best.
Anything and everything can kill a Calscout by breathing on it.
Galscout is just a bit tougher
Amarr... sad, sad Amarr. It can only work as a light assault.
Fuck the silver, let's go for the gold
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I am what haunts your dreams at night.
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Louis Domi
Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION
907
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Posted - 2015.03.08 00:22:00 -
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SOGGY GRANDMA wrote:They are fast, they are hard to detect even without cloaks, they can 1 hit or 1 shot just about anything, and they are hard to hit.
Ok so maybe they can get a few rounds of a shotgun in ur back but by the time the first shot hits you, it's a 75% chance your going down.
With RE's, Kin Kats, Damp's, and Strafe, the scout is considered a frontline assault.
My opinion is that scouts need to be more like scouts. Instead of 2 weapon slots they should just have a sidearm slot for knives, or smg, or pistols. They should also have 1 equipment slot to better their roll in the game. Min scouts have hacking bonus so use a cloak, gal scouts are hardest to detect and can be very fast with kin kats so they can place links. Cal scout see everything and are best for intel so why not a scanner. Amarr scouts idk what they are special for but im sure they can be used for something. Meat shield can be an oprion.
I believe this will try to force them to pick their battles instead of going in head first with guns pointed at them throwing RE's and killing 6 people in one shot. (Side note: if you throw an RE and die before detonating the RE then the RE should not be able to blow up because the source of the threat was eliminated regardless of respawn.) Scouts before abusing the RE's and using cloak were deadly because they were hard to detect. The shotgun was their best friend and if you sniped the knives were in your back if you were not paying attention.
Maybe no one cares and thats probably why its unbalanced. Why ruin a good thing right?
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FLAYLOCK Steve
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:P14GU3 wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:The most stupidest post I've ever ever read. Scouts are so weak now, just sneezing on us will kill us. I'm a main min scout, and everyone and their blind grandma can see us. Don't try to talk about scouts if you haven't even used tthem as a main. Milita assault suits can own us no problem. You also take the hardest scout to use and lump it in with the rest of the others. I have used every scout but the amarr and the min is completely different from the cal/gal, which are fairly easy-mode IMO.. I do believe you are lying there, the Minscout is actually the best. Anything and everything can kill a Calscout by breathing on it. Galscout is just a bit tougher Amarr... sad, sad Amarr. It can only work as a light assault. It isn't the best gal scout is the best. Min ewar sucks so bad, doesn't make sense that the "assassin scout (min scout)" is the least stealthy scout with a bonus to knives. I love nova knife and I love min scout. But it's UP
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