The Sentinel's role bonus of 5% reduction to blast damage resistance should also apply to flux grenades' EMP damage profile.

Related thread: Rebalance flux grenades with variants

Actually dude, I'm in favor of replacing the sentinel resistances with weapon-specific bonuses.

Each sentinel gets a general heavy weapon buff

each sentinel gets a racial weapon buff


the resistances cause more problems in the long run than they solved.

And I'm speaking as that guy who has all four sentinels at level 5. and the next best suit at 3.

I could see the Caldari and maybe Minmatar sentinels switching their splash reduction for a flux damage resistance. That'd probably help shield tanking for sentinels out quite a bit.

If the bonus was different for one race, it wouldn't be a general role bonus anymore.

I wish the general role bonus of blast damage reduction was really to both explosive splash and EMP splash damage. The wording of the bonus wouldn't even need changing.

the general role bonus is the hard reduction in PG/CPU given by the sentinel suit to the heavy weapons. it's universal.

Y'know awkwardly which race has one of the worst EM resistance profiles in New Eden........ the Caldari.......

For a blanket role bonus, that is irrelevant.

Actually the Amarr do have the highest explosives resistance values in New Eden....... not joking.

Sentinels do not have better overall PG/CPU stats; compared to basic, this is what sentinels have:
Amarr: -15 CPU & +4 PG
Caldari: +34 CPU & -7 PG
Gallente: +11 CPU & -4 PG
Minmatar: -8 CPU & +1 PG
That doesn't look like a complete upgrade in fitting capacity to me.

Sentinels get a fitting break for Heavy weapons. it's universal. it's a role bonus.

Sentinels have high enough HP values that resistances aren't needed.

Are you sure you're not missing the word "should" in any of your comments?

Yeah.

I think this is a good idea.

I also think that Sentinels should have a resistance to any weapon that is actively shooting them.

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The Sentinel's role bonus of 5% reduction to blast damage resistance should also apply to flux grenades' EMP damage profile.

Related thread: Rebalance flux grenades with variants

yea since most splash weapons lost the splash its a less than useless bonus except against MD

If the bonus was different for one race, it wouldn't be a general role bonus anymore.

I wish the general role bonus of blast damage reduction was really to both explosive splash and EMP splash damage. The wording of the bonus wouldn't even need changing.

A resistance bonus to a weapon that's intended as "highly effective" hybrid anti infantry/anti vehicle that's less effective against infantry than a SMG and less effective against vehicles than a small blaster turret IS admittedly a worthless bonus.

I propose making explosive weapons useful again in order to make the bonus more relevant.
Nobody will dare agree with me even though its the right thing to do.

Why?
Because getting killed by explosive damage is frustrating...

but so is dying all the time to railgun weapons just because they punch like a piledriver and outdistance literally everything, but when do I cry for a railgun nerf?

So.....straight up universal damage reduction then?

No, not quite.

Having the highest HP suits isn't enough, and neither is having the most resistances and the highest DPS. The problem is that whatever is killing the heavy at the time is a balance issue. So the solution is simple: have a fluctuating resistance that activates based on the weapon and damage type.

That way whenever a Sentinel gets shot, the resistance automatically switches to what the Sentinel is shot with.

What? Why?

Sentinels are already set up for resistances from damage (a mechanic that I like personally.) I don't see would we want to punish other suits by taking away one of the tactical options that they have when engaging sentinels?

MOAR tactics...not less.

Actually the Mass Driver is a lot of fun to use, unless of course you're fighting a Sentinel and they just laugh at your attempts to kill them.

No, not quite.

Having the highest HP suits isn't enough, and neither is having the most resistances and the highest DPS. The problem is that whatever is killing the heavy at the time is a balance issue. So the solution is simple: have a fluctuating resistance that activates based on the weapon and damage type.

That way whenever a Sentinel gets shot, the resistance automatically switches to what the Sentinel is shot with.

All of the sense that this doesn't make is making my brain bleed.
So you'resaying if a sentinel can be killed by something its breaking balance? Because a sentinel dying is game breaking? They aaren't supposed to be invincible, they just are invincible bc theyre the biggest crybabies.

Honestly, I don't mind them having resists to guns but the across the board explosive resists is actually pretty dumb.

Actually no one was asking for sentinels to get the resists. We were asking for non sucky amarr bonuses that were rigged for a weapon that never got introduced.

What happened was sentinels got amazingly buffed... right at the same time rifles ate a nerf.

The people screaming sents were too easy to kill were more of a running gag than majority movement.

The whole resistance thing came right out of left field.

nothing useful

... because im the most underpowered class in the game ...

this was a useless rant.

Be more constructive if you want a change

I agree that Heavies have it too easy, but I've gotta stop you there, Greiv.

Neither the Scout nor your MinScout is not the "the most underpowered class in the game" ... this is the Commando's title. A couple Logis are likely the next worst in line. Then comes the AM Scout with another Logi or two.

There are aspects of MN Scout gameplay which can improved upon, but the suit and class are not underpowered.

Sentinels get a fitting break for Heavy weapons. it's universal. it's a role bonus.

Sentinels have high enough HP values that resistances aren't needed.

It doesn't change that heavies have been crying forever about anything and everything that kills them.
And anything and everything that kills them actually gets nerfed in response.

Because destroying every other grenade type wasn't enough?
I can't stress this often enough: sentinels already won dust 514. Eat your cake and stop QQing. If a flux grenade makes remotes able to kill you again, good.
All grenades need rebalanced. But the starting point isn't nerfing the last surviving grenade, its buffing the ones that have been broken for the past year.

Or maybe you can explain to me why, as a minja, I get 2 shotted by a rail rifle 600 yards off but when a grenade rolls up by my feet I'm just like "lololol a locus grenade" take 2 steps to the side, and barely feel a thing?

I'd like to point out, the Greiv Rabbah & Imp Smash did not write the above quote. Don't libel me.

If I misunderstood your post then my apologies. It seemed like you meant it at first, then it seemed a bit over the top second.

I'll just distill my response to this simply.

Sentinels (myself included) have resists. We are the only ones that do. We also have the most life. Most of that is mitigated by the lower speed and the larger hitboxes. We also carry the highest DPS (and in some cases easiest to use) Anti-Infantry weapons. This creates an already difficult situation for all except sneaky shotgun/RE/knife users.

I don't think an EMP resistance is needed for the following reasons:

1. Parity. Other suits don't get EMP resistance. Why should we. One could argue that we need it because we can't move as fast. I don't agree. We all have a lot of life -- the only Sent who is really at risk is the Cal Sent (ALSO me) and if I am not using cover effectively to regen my shields properly then I honestly feel I deserve to die. I still put out more DPS with my Burst HMG than any assault so even after getting hit by an EMP and hiding around the corner while they rush me I have a solid chance to insta-blap.

2. Sentinels in their current incarnation pretty much require CQC to stay alive. As such we tend to stick to cover. Meaning we have a lot of options for movement if we see or guess that an EMP is coming.

Honestly I feel that we have enough tools at our disposal to deal with an EMP in mid battle and have a fair chance to win. I get EMPed and lose my shields I still often make a comeback. I also often die. That's how an FPS should be. It's not comparable to, for example, low turn speed so that if a suit comes close you literally cannot aim at them as they strafe around you. That is broken. EMPs are not broken. As such, I say let them be.

I read it.

I don't use grenades outside of the occasional mlt flux to clear equipment.

So I don't have much opinion on grenades at the moment. Besides the Core Locus which can already be, and will soon be able to be more heavily, spammed which I feel is a bit off. Outside of that one (very limited) opinion I cannot make a fair comment on grenades. If you think they need to be rebalanced for tier and damage and radius and whatnot - that's your proposal and your thing. I don't plan on getting in it due to my aforementioned lack of personal experience.

But AS a Caldari Sentinel I am ok with how well fluxes work. I think it is good that flux grenades are one more thing you can use on Sentinels. So really, while I read it, I simply don't agree with you much as you don't agree with me.

So, agree to disagree?

I can support adding fluxes to the definition for splash damage.

Cal sentinels are seriously vulnerable to fluxes with no counter to it. This may be a good balancing factor between the heavies.

A good ressistance for flux ganades are ~90-95%, because they flux you 1800HP, this HP you cant have! 50% is not enought, because then is fluxes you 900HP and the Caldari Havy habe also big problems!

I think we don't need a flux grenade with lower damage, because you have also to flux the Vihicles, but a skill for ressistance for all suites with one skill will be fine!