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Astartes of Derp Allcorp Resource Union 2	Posted - 2015.03.02 05:43:00 - [1] - Quote So whats the deal with all the Duna corp hate? I see it so often but tbere never seems to have a good reason backing it... I have an evil plan to save the world.
Vicious Minotaur 2046	Posted - 2015.03.02 05:49:00 - [2] - Quote It annoying. I am a minotaur. a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça+üa+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9716	Posted - 2015.03.02 05:53:00 - [3] - Quote Dunno who to hate... *As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1122	Posted - 2015.03.02 05:54:00 - [4] - Quote Supposedly, but I have not seen for myself, The corporation is a high-tax trap for newcomers, where he immediately pockets the corp money for personal use. Duna or whomever runs it also assigns everyone a "role" to ensure that the person has to run 2 different checkout forums to exit the corp. The thing is, most newcomers don't know how to use the exit feature, as well as when they've finished the 1st half, he'll give them a new role, so they have to get out of that role AGAIN, in order to finally reach the form used to exit the corp. As I have never entered or left a Corp myself, I've only heard this takes a while to process, and is not instant, hence the exploitation time. But this is only the info I've picked up around the forums. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 2432	Posted - 2015.03.02 05:54:00 - [5] - Quote Who cares... The hate comes from scrubby gameplay in kdr padding and new player scamming. Pads kdr in a tank by farming kills and bailing before death, then cloaking and hiding the rest of the match. So I hear. Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
dzizur Expert Intervention Caldari State 162	Posted - 2015.03.02 06:09:00 - [6] - Quote He's hated for the same thing as every clone in New Eden. "He killed me and I couldn't kill him" which then translates to "He killed me because he's a:" lagswitcher cheater scrub honestly just anything but don't you dare to say that he's better than me ;)
demonkiller 12 Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 620	Posted - 2015.03.02 06:14:00 - [7] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Supposedly, but I have not seen for myself, The corporation is a high-tax trap for newcomers, where he immediately pockets the corp money for personal use. Duna or whomever runs it also assigns everyone a "role" to ensure that the person has to run 2 different checkout forums to exit the corp. The thing is, most newcomers don't know how to use the exit feature, as well as when they've finished the 1st half, he'll give them a new role, so they have to get out of that role AGAIN, in order to finally reach the form used to exit the corp. As I have never entered or left a Corp myself, I've only heard this takes a while to process, and is not instant, hence the exploitation time. But this is only the info I've picked up around the forums. Whats the problem with high tax? He pays for everyones tanks when youre in his squad, and theyre ******* goodtanks, on top of that he pays his corp members according to weekly performance. Also he doesnt give anyone roles, people can leave or enter whenever they want. If youve never been in a corp before then you dont get to comment on other corps
demonkiller 12 Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 620	Posted - 2015.03.02 06:16:00 - [8] - Quote Astartes of Derp wrote: So whats the deal with all the Duna corp hate? I see it so often but tbere never seems to have a good reason backing it... Everyone hates getting stomped by his tank squads, but he loses more games than he wins, stay out of the tanks paths and win
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 53	Posted - 2015.03.02 06:20:00 - [9] - Quote Option 1 Everyone in the corp is either a newb or a newb with a tank that Duna gave them because newbies become trapped in the corp because of the broken corp mechanics. Option 2 Duna no lifes in a tank like no other. This makes people mad because they are not doing the same. Option 3 (The most likely one) The main reason is because of 1.7. This was the absolute height of Duna days. All of his tank spam was rewarded with an incredibly OP period for tanks where he just destroyed everyone without resistance. This was the reason he almost single handedly ruined ambush.
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 710	Posted - 2015.03.02 06:27:00 - [10] - Quote I think you are exaggerating a bit much there NoHands. I've never once been even killed by one of his tanks. Much less had a match ruined. Saying one person ruined a game mode is a pretty big statement.

Minmatar Mercenary 9292 Nos Nothi 581	Posted - 2015.03.02 06:41:00 - [11] - Quote I hate when he's on my team in skirmish, because it means there are six tanks rolling around doing nothing to capture the objectives, They all just roam around in a pack looking for stragglers to kill (as if they needed 6 tanks to kill one guy) whilst being triple capped. It's hilarious when playing against it and frustrating playing with it. Da only good Amarr is a ded Amarr, an de ony fing betta than a ded one, is a dyin one who tells ya were 'is mates is!
Henrietta Unknown Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 839	Posted - 2015.03.02 06:48:00 - [12] - Quote Minmatar Mercenary 9292 wrote: I hate when he's on my team in skirmish, because it means there are six tanks rolling around doing nothing to capture the objectives, They all just roam around in a pack looking for stragglers to kill (as if they needed 6 tanks to kill one guy) whilst being triple capped. It's hilarious when playing against it and frustrating playing with it. A plague on both houses... But seriously, he's not godly. His bodyguards are true newbs (I've taken several out with PLC and forge). He passes behind their tanks and gets them to be his meatbags. If all else fails, he scrambles out to preserve KDR (judging by some posts, doesn't always work). The reason why they say he "ruined" Ambush was because he inspired such a scrubby tactic during the 1.7 days. You can tell he relies on meatbags because he doesn't even do AMBUSH OMS anymore (2-vehicle limit). Please buff my Magsex. It doesn't hit hard enough...
DUST Fiend 15924	Posted - 2015.03.02 06:55:00 - [13] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Supposedly, but I have not seen for myself, The corporation is a high-tax trap for newcomers, where he immediately pockets the corp money for personal use. Duna or whomever runs it also assigns everyone a "role" to ensure that the person has to run 2 different checkout forums to exit the corp. The thing is, most newcomers don't know how to use the exit feature, as well as when they've finished the 1st half, he'll give them a new role, so they have to get out of that role AGAIN, in order to finally reach the form used to exit the corp. As I have never entered or left a Corp myself, I've only heard this takes a while to process, and is not instant, hence the exploitation time. But this is only the info I've picked up around the forums. Whats the problem with high tax? He pays for everyones tanks when youre in his squad, and theyre ******* goodtanks, on top of that he pays his corp members according to weekly performance. Also he doesnt give anyone roles, people can leave or enter whenever they want. If youve never been in a corp before then you dont get to comment on other corps I wasn't even with them for a day, but it wasn't for any particular reason. His message on there mentioned something about paying out prizes for perfomance and it's a multilingual corp with a lot of support for that. He seemed like a nice guy from what extremely little interaction we had. Tanks are easy to hate, especially when they and their pilot rarely ever die. Plus, "join-my-corp" Contests, Sales, Writing etc Fly Safe
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1122	Posted - 2015.03.02 06:58:00 - [14] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: Whats the problem with high tax? He pays for everyones tanks when youre in his squad, and theyre ******* goodtanks, on top of that he pays his corp members according to weekly performance. Also he doesnt give anyone roles, people can leave or enter whenever they want. If youve never been in a corp before then you dont get to comment on other corps Mmm hmm, so what part of the above statement did I say was my own comment? Also, You've never been in Duna corp. What makes you think that you are more valid for information regarding a corp you have never been in? Oh wait, you're not. Also, information brokering is a thing you know. You don't have to be in a corporation to be able to hear about everything that goes on inside one. It kind of works that way in the real world, so fantasizing that someone who has never been in a corp has no right to comment on one... well, that's just beating your own head in with a rusty nail. That's like claiming someone doesn't have the right to know the workings of a gun, because they've never built one. Quite the contrary, one can pick them up and disassemble them to figure out how the pieces work together, and what the pieces are made of. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17396	Posted - 2015.03.02 07:02:00 - [15] - Quote dzizur wrote: He's hated for the same thing as every clone in New Eden. "He killed me and I couldn't kill him" which then translates to "He killed me because he's a:" lagswitcher cheater scrub honestly just anything but don't you dare to say that he's better than me ;) No he's hated because he's universally considered and absolute ass mainly because of how he chooses to only fight when I guess he has all the advantages on his side. Kinda silly worrying about things like KDR in a game about immortal super soldiers though..... "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9717	Posted - 2015.03.02 07:09:00 - [16] - Quote True Adamance wrote: dzizur wrote: He's hated for the same thing as every clone in New Eden. "He killed me and I couldn't kill him" which then translates to "He killed me because he's a:" lagswitcher cheater scrub honestly just anything but don't you dare to say that he's better than me ;) No he's hated because he's universally considered and absolute ass mainly because of how he chooses to only fight when I guess he has all the advantages on his side. Kinda silly worrying about things like KDR in a game about immortal super soldiers though..... This is true. He cloaks up the second his tank is about to blow. He tries to run away in his Caldari Scout but ends up failing when it's against people with actual good vision and Monitors. *As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
DUST Fiend 15924	Posted - 2015.03.02 07:09:00 - [17] - Quote True Adamance wrote: dzizur wrote: He's hated for the same thing as every clone in New Eden. "He killed me and I couldn't kill him" which then translates to "He killed me because he's a:" lagswitcher cheater scrub honestly just anything but don't you dare to say that he's better than me ;) No he's hated because he's universally considered and absolute ass mainly because of how he chooses to only fight when I guess he has all the advantages on his side. Kinda silly worrying about things like KDR in a game about immortal super soldiers though..... Maybe he's an OCD Accountant who was forced into a clone, you don't know. YOU DON'T KNOW HIM TRUE!!!!! Contests, Sales, Writing etc Fly Safe
4lbert Wesker King and Queens 152	Posted - 2015.03.02 07:17:00 - [18] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Supposedly, but I have not seen for myself, The corporation is a high-tax trap for newcomers, where he immediately pockets the corp money for personal use. Duna or whomever runs it also assigns everyone a "role" to ensure that the person has to run 2 different checkout forums to exit the corp. The thing is, most newcomers don't know how to use the exit feature, as well as when they've finished the 1st half, he'll give them a new role, so they have to get out of that role AGAIN, in order to finally reach the form used to exit the corp. As I have never entered or left a Corp myself, I've only heard this takes a while to process, and is not instant, hence the exploitation time. But this is only the info I've picked up around the forums. Whats the problem with high tax? He pays for everyones tanks when youre in his squad, and theyre ******* goodtanks, on top of that he pays his corp members according to weekly performance. Also he doesnt give anyone roles, people can leave or enter whenever they want. If youve never been in a corp before then you dont get to comment on other corps I can confirm that,I used to play with Duna very often and he usually give tanks to squad members.He rewards with ISK to anyone who is active and have decent amount of kills per week.He is a nice person and a good tanker.I can guarantee that he will kill 95% tankers 1 vs 1. Don't hate him for kill farming,it's your fault you can't kill him. Public skirmish = camping games
xavier zor 0uter.Heaven 654	Posted - 2015.03.02 07:44:00 - [19] - Quote I do not hate duna corp, but duna2002 himself I do hate. I have stabbed duna, stole his tank and even messed around in his Russian squad before. I hate duna because he is one of the smartest players of Dust 514, legitimately speaking. I mean, who else knows how to get a KD of 74 using a tank vs OP swarms whilst everyone is aiming to kill you? new home <3
demonkiller 12 Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 621	Posted - 2015.03.02 07:44:00 - [20] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: Minmatar Mercenary 9292 wrote: I hate when he's on my team in skirmish, because it means there are six tanks rolling around doing nothing to capture the objectives, They all just roam around in a pack looking for stragglers to kill (as if they needed 6 tanks to kill one guy) whilst being triple capped. It's hilarious when playing against it and frustrating playing with it. A plague on both houses... But seriously, he's not godly. His bodyguards are true newbs (I've taken several out with PLC and forge). He passes behind their tanks and gets them to be his meatbags. If all else fails, he scrambles out to preserve KDR (judging by some posts, doesn't always work). The reason why they say he "ruined" Ambush was because he inspired such a scrubby tactic during the 1.7 days. You can tell he relies on meatbags because he doesn't even do AMBUSH OMS anymore (2-vehicle limit). He doesnt do ambush because you can get into regular ambush which means no vehicles and because oms has turrets that spawn

Sleepy Shadow Qualified Scrub 278	Posted - 2015.03.02 10:53:00 - [21] - Quote xavier zor wrote: I do not hate duna corp, but duna2002 himself I do hate. I have stabbed duna, stole his tank and even messed around in his Russian squad before. I hate duna because he is one of the smartest players of Dust 514, legitimately speaking. I mean, who else knows how to get a KD of 74 using a tank vs OP swarms whilst everyone is aiming to kill you? If there was an exit delay his KDR wouldnGÇÖt be anywhere near as glorious as it is now. He loses tanks left, right and centre; the reason his KDR is high is because he bails out every time just before his tank blows. He doesnGÇÖt even try to save his tank, he can afford them. If youGÇÖre lucky, and not close to his tank when it dies, you may see his cloaked up Scout ck.0 run for the hills and kill him. DonGÇÖt be too close to his tank though he often has HMG heavies in there so distance is your friend. And if you kill Duna a few times in the match he will retreat to the red line and snipe for the rest of the match. I hate it when his on my team as I know thereGÇÖs about a squadGÇÖs worth of players not contributing in any shape or form to the battle. There will be a conga line of tanks going around the map and you can guarantee they will no help you capture objectives. When they are on the opposing side at least I have food for my AV. =ƒÿ¦
xavier zor 0uter.Heaven 654	Posted - 2015.03.02 11:07:00 - [22] - Quote Sleepy Shadow wrote: xavier zor wrote: I do not hate duna corp, but duna2002 himself I do hate. I have stabbed duna, stole his tank and even messed around in his Russian squad before. I hate duna because he is one of the smartest players of Dust 514, legitimately speaking. I mean, who else knows how to get a KD of 74 using a tank vs OP swarms whilst everyone is aiming to kill you? If there was an exit delay his KDR wouldnGÇÖt be anywhere near as glorious as it is now. He loses tanks left, right and centre; the reason his KDR is high is because he bails out every time just before his tank blows. He doesnGÇÖt even try to save his tank, he can afford them. If youGÇÖre lucky, and not close to his tank when it dies, you may see his cloaked up Scout ck.0 run for the hills and kill him. DonGÇÖt be too close to his tank though he often has HMG heavies in there so distance is your friend. And if you kill Duna a few times in the match he will retreat to the red line and snipe for the rest of the match. I hate it when his on my team as I know thereGÇÖs about a squadGÇÖs worth of players not contributing in any shape or form to the battle. There will be a conga line of tanks going around the map and you can guarantee they will no help you capture objectives. When they are on the opposing side at least I have food for my AV. You will never kill duna in his tank, he hops out at under 2000 armor, never stays in. He is to smart a player to get killed by AV. An exit delay would honestly do nothing to his KD ratio. Some matches duna will snipe, some he won't. Smart player I will give him that new home <3
diablo gamekeeper T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 39	Posted - 2015.03.02 11:46:00 - [23] - Quote Its because he farmed oceania server in a tank until the second it was shutdown. Notice his kill count drastically dropped after that.
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 526	Posted - 2015.03.02 11:49:00 - [24] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: demonkiller 12 wrote: Whats the problem with high tax? He pays for everyones tanks when youre in his squad, and theyre ******* goodtanks, on top of that he pays his corp members according to weekly performance. Also he doesnt give anyone roles, people can leave or enter whenever they want. If youve never been in a corp before then you dont get to comment on other corps Mmm hmm, so what part of the above statement did I say was my own comment? Also, You've never been in Duna corp. What makes you think that you are more valid for information regarding a corp you have never been in? Oh wait, you're not. Also, information brokering is a thing you know. You don't have to be in a corporation to be able to hear about everything that goes on inside one. It kind of works that way in the real world, so fantasizing that someone who has never been in a corp has no right to comment on one... well, that's just beating your own head in with a rusty nail. That's like claiming someone doesn't have the right to know the workings of a gun, because they've never built one. Quite the contrary, one can pick them up and disassemble them to figure out how the pieces work together, and what the pieces are made of. What is duna made of? are duna pieces like reeses?
Aiwha Bait Demonic Cowboys 88	Posted - 2015.03.02 12:05:00 - [25] - Quote dzizur wrote: He's hated for the same thing as every clone in New Eden. "He killed me and I couldn't kill him" which then translates to "He killed me because he's a:" lagswitcher cheater scrub honestly just anything but don't you dare to say that he's better than me ;) You obviously haven't hung around Duna2002 then. He's a pssy ass tanker who strokes his KDR cck by hopping in his tank for the entirety of matches. "I went looking for trouble, and I found it." - Charles Ponzi
Aiwha Bait Demonic Cowboys 88	Posted - 2015.03.02 12:08:00 - [26] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Option 1 Everyone in the corp is either a newb or a newb with a tank that Duna gave them because newbies become trapped in the corp because of the broken corp mechanics. Option 2 Duna no lifes in a tank like no other. This makes people mad because they are not doing the same. Option 3 (The most likely one) The main reason is because of 1.7. This was the absolute height of Duna days. All of his tank spam was rewarded with an incredibly OP period for tanks where he just destroyed everyone without resistance. This was the reason he almost single handedly ruined ambush. Now he just runs around on Skirmish on the American server. Used to be that he'd run around Skirmish on Europe, but not after Warlords. :/ "I went looking for trouble, and I found it." - Charles Ponzi
Edau Skir2 Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 681	Posted - 2015.03.02 12:08:00 - [27] - Quote Duna hate? I've been in duna corp....was with them.for about two weeks. Before I realised that it's literally just him taking all our tax money, imagine 15-20%, whichever it was from every member... As for these so called weekly payouts? They don't.exist. I never got a damn penny from him. Was quite easily the most unorganised amd shite corp I have ever been in. Logistics mk.0 / Logibro's Modified Logistics mk.0 Scout gk.0/ Scotsman's Modified Scout gk.0 Commando gk.0
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 826	Posted - 2015.03.02 12:50:00 - [28] - Quote Edau Skir2 wrote: Duna hate? I've been in duna corp....was with them.for about two weeks. Before I realised that it's literally just him taking all our tax money, imagine 15-20%, whichever it was from every member... As for these so called weekly payouts? They don't.exist. I never got a damn penny from him. Was quite easily the most unorganised amd shite corp I have ever been in. In fairness though, this is pretty true of any corp that has a tax rate. If you aren't actively participating in PC with a corp you are wasting money so that they can. Lotteries are just like real lotteries, a large collection for a fractional payout. Lotteries and "paying out good members" (aka cronyism) etc. are just excuses for implementing the taxes. That's why people don't like corps like duna corp. Because they take in massive amounts of newbies who are too ignorant of how corporation taxation works to realize that they will never see that money. He hands out tanks like Oprah hands out new cars? Do you know how much money Oprah has? It's the common real world tactic of giving a little back from the massive amount of wealth you are vacuuming up from consumers, to appear like a good person, because hey giving .001% show's you aren't a scrooge amirite? Although I wouldn't knock Oprah so much, at least i'd say what she's doing is fairly legitimate. Corp taxes are like that Tai Lopez guy that's all over youtube. You know, the Lamborghini guy. He is getting rich off monthly "Consultation/Mentor Fees" that are a nightmare to opt out of once you get reeled in. People object to corps like duna corp for the same reason people dislike Tai Lopez. It has a reputation of being a sign up scam that's hard to get out of and preys on the ignorance of newcomers. Many online games with taxation have a taxes due system which lets players immediately bail on the guild/clan/corp if they don't want to pay said taxes. This game just deducts it immediately from all contract payments.
Raptor Princess ALLOTEC INC 153	Posted - 2015.03.02 13:11:00 - [29] - Quote I've picked up a few corp members by explaining in local how to leave duna corp when they ask why they're not getting much ISK from battles due to tax. One of them was telling me that they were in a squad with him once and because they didn't save his tank, he put the tax up to 99% for 2 days to get the money back, because it was their fault. Plus, I hate the join-my-corp spam if I end up in a match with him. I don't hate his corp though, I feel bad for the newbies trapped in it.
Edau Skir2 Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 681	Posted - 2015.03.02 13:36:00 - [30] - Quote Raptor Princess wrote: I've picked up a few corp members by explaining in local how to leave duna corp when they ask why they're not getting much ISK from battles due to tax. One of them was telling me that they were in a squad with him once and because they didn't save his tank, he put the tax up to 99% for 2 days to get the money back, because it was their fault. Plus, I hate the join-my-corp spam if I end up in a match with him. I don't hate his corp though, I feel bad for the newbies trapped in it. That 99% was exactly why I left. He wants tanks? He should earn them his damn self. If only there was a way to get everyone to leave that corp... Much happier in CS. Logistics mk.0 / Logibro's Modified Logistics mk.0 Scout gk.0/ Scotsman's Modified Scout gk.0 Commando gk.0



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