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Astartes of Derp Allcorp Resource Union 2	Posted - 2015.03.02 05:43:00 - [1] - Quote So whats the deal with all the Duna corp hate? I see it so often but tbere never seems to have a good reason backing it... I have an evil plan to save the world.
Vicious Minotaur 2046	Posted - 2015.03.02 05:49:00 - [2] - Quote It annoying. I am a minotaur. a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça+üa+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9716	Posted - 2015.03.02 05:53:00 - [3] - Quote Dunno who to hate... *As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1122	Posted - 2015.03.02 05:54:00 - [4] - Quote Supposedly, but I have not seen for myself, The corporation is a high-tax trap for newcomers, where he immediately pockets the corp money for personal use. Duna or whomever runs it also assigns everyone a "role" to ensure that the person has to run 2 different checkout forums to exit the corp. The thing is, most newcomers don't know how to use the exit feature, as well as when they've finished the 1st half, he'll give them a new role, so they have to get out of that role AGAIN, in order to finally reach the form used to exit the corp. As I have never entered or left a Corp myself, I've only heard this takes a while to process, and is not instant, hence the exploitation time. But this is only the info I've picked up around the forums. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 2432	Posted - 2015.03.02 05:54:00 - [5] - Quote Who cares... The hate comes from scrubby gameplay in kdr padding and new player scamming. Pads kdr in a tank by farming kills and bailing before death, then cloaking and hiding the rest of the match. So I hear. Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
dzizur Expert Intervention Caldari State 162	Posted - 2015.03.02 06:09:00 - [6] - Quote He's hated for the same thing as every clone in New Eden. "He killed me and I couldn't kill him" which then translates to "He killed me because he's a:" lagswitcher cheater scrub honestly just anything but don't you dare to say that he's better than me ;)
demonkiller 12 Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 620	Posted - 2015.03.02 06:14:00 - [7] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Supposedly, but I have not seen for myself, The corporation is a high-tax trap for newcomers, where he immediately pockets the corp money for personal use. Duna or whomever runs it also assigns everyone a "role" to ensure that the person has to run 2 different checkout forums to exit the corp. The thing is, most newcomers don't know how to use the exit feature, as well as when they've finished the 1st half, he'll give them a new role, so they have to get out of that role AGAIN, in order to finally reach the form used to exit the corp. As I have never entered or left a Corp myself, I've only heard this takes a while to process, and is not instant, hence the exploitation time. But this is only the info I've picked up around the forums. Whats the problem with high tax? He pays for everyones tanks when youre in his squad, and theyre ******* goodtanks, on top of that he pays his corp members according to weekly performance. Also he doesnt give anyone roles, people can leave or enter whenever they want. If youve never been in a corp before then you dont get to comment on other corps
demonkiller 12 Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 620	Posted - 2015.03.02 06:16:00 - [8] - Quote Astartes of Derp wrote: So whats the deal with all the Duna corp hate? I see it so often but tbere never seems to have a good reason backing it... Everyone hates getting stomped by his tank squads, but he loses more games than he wins, stay out of the tanks paths and win
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 53	Posted - 2015.03.02 06:20:00 - [9] - Quote Option 1 Everyone in the corp is either a newb or a newb with a tank that Duna gave them because newbies become trapped in the corp because of the broken corp mechanics. Option 2 Duna no lifes in a tank like no other. This makes people mad because they are not doing the same. Option 3 (The most likely one) The main reason is because of 1.7. This was the absolute height of Duna days. All of his tank spam was rewarded with an incredibly OP period for tanks where he just destroyed everyone without resistance. This was the reason he almost single handedly ruined ambush.
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 710	Posted - 2015.03.02 06:27:00 - [10] - Quote I think you are exaggerating a bit much there NoHands. I've never once been even killed by one of his tanks. Much less had a match ruined. Saying one person ruined a game mode is a pretty big statement.

Minmatar Mercenary 9292 Nos Nothi 581	Posted - 2015.03.02 06:41:00 - [11] - Quote I hate when he's on my team in skirmish, because it means there are six tanks rolling around doing nothing to capture the objectives, They all just roam around in a pack looking for stragglers to kill (as if they needed 6 tanks to kill one guy) whilst being triple capped. It's hilarious when playing against it and frustrating playing with it. Da only good Amarr is a ded Amarr, an de ony fing betta than a ded one, is a dyin one who tells ya were 'is mates is!
Henrietta Unknown Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 839	Posted - 2015.03.02 06:48:00 - [12] - Quote Minmatar Mercenary 9292 wrote: I hate when he's on my team in skirmish, because it means there are six tanks rolling around doing nothing to capture the objectives, They all just roam around in a pack looking for stragglers to kill (as if they needed 6 tanks to kill one guy) whilst being triple capped. It's hilarious when playing against it and frustrating playing with it. A plague on both houses... But seriously, he's not godly. His bodyguards are true newbs (I've taken several out with PLC and forge). He passes behind their tanks and gets them to be his meatbags. If all else fails, he scrambles out to preserve KDR (judging by some posts, doesn't always work). The reason why they say he "ruined" Ambush was because he inspired such a scrubby tactic during the 1.7 days. You can tell he relies on meatbags because he doesn't even do AMBUSH OMS anymore (2-vehicle limit). Please buff my Magsex. It doesn't hit hard enough...
DUST Fiend 15924	Posted - 2015.03.02 06:55:00 - [13] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Supposedly, but I have not seen for myself, The corporation is a high-tax trap for newcomers, where he immediately pockets the corp money for personal use. Duna or whomever runs it also assigns everyone a "role" to ensure that the person has to run 2 different checkout forums to exit the corp. The thing is, most newcomers don't know how to use the exit feature, as well as when they've finished the 1st half, he'll give them a new role, so they have to get out of that role AGAIN, in order to finally reach the form used to exit the corp. As I have never entered or left a Corp myself, I've only heard this takes a while to process, and is not instant, hence the exploitation time. But this is only the info I've picked up around the forums. Whats the problem with high tax? He pays for everyones tanks when youre in his squad, and theyre ******* goodtanks, on top of that he pays his corp members according to weekly performance. Also he doesnt give anyone roles, people can leave or enter whenever they want. If youve never been in a corp before then you dont get to comment on other corps I wasn't even with them for a day, but it wasn't for any particular reason. His message on there mentioned something about paying out prizes for perfomance and it's a multilingual corp with a lot of support for that. He seemed like a nice guy from what extremely little interaction we had. Tanks are easy to hate, especially when they and their pilot rarely ever die. Plus, "join-my-corp" Contests, Sales, Writing etc Fly Safe
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1122	Posted - 2015.03.02 06:58:00 - [14] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: Whats the problem with high tax? He pays for everyones tanks when youre in his squad, and theyre ******* goodtanks, on top of that he pays his corp members according to weekly performance. Also he doesnt give anyone roles, people can leave or enter whenever they want. If youve never been in a corp before then you dont get to comment on other corps Mmm hmm, so what part of the above statement did I say was my own comment? Also, You've never been in Duna corp. What makes you think that you are more valid for information regarding a corp you have never been in? Oh wait, you're not. Also, information brokering is a thing you know. You don't have to be in a corporation to be able to hear about everything that goes on inside one. It kind of works that way in the real world, so fantasizing that someone who has never been in a corp has no right to comment on one... well, that's just beating your own head in with a rusty nail. That's like claiming someone doesn't have the right to know the workings of a gun, because they've never built one. Quite the contrary, one can pick them up and disassemble them to figure out how the pieces work together, and what the pieces are made of. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17396	Posted - 2015.03.02 07:02:00 - [15] - Quote dzizur wrote: He's hated for the same thing as every clone in New Eden. "He killed me and I couldn't kill him" which then translates to "He killed me because he's a:" lagswitcher cheater scrub honestly just anything but don't you dare to say that he's better than me ;) No he's hated because he's universally considered and absolute ass mainly because of how he chooses to only fight when I guess he has all the advantages on his side. Kinda silly worrying about things like KDR in a game about immortal super soldiers though..... "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9717	Posted - 2015.03.02 07:09:00 - [16] - Quote True Adamance wrote: dzizur wrote: He's hated for the same thing as every clone in New Eden. "He killed me and I couldn't kill him" which then translates to "He killed me because he's a:" lagswitcher cheater scrub honestly just anything but don't you dare to say that he's better than me ;) No he's hated because he's universally considered and absolute ass mainly because of how he chooses to only fight when I guess he has all the advantages on his side. Kinda silly worrying about things like KDR in a game about immortal super soldiers though..... This is true. He cloaks up the second his tank is about to blow. He tries to run away in his Caldari Scout but ends up failing when it's against people with actual good vision and Monitors. *As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
DUST Fiend 15924	Posted - 2015.03.02 07:09:00 - [17] - Quote True Adamance wrote: dzizur wrote: He's hated for the same thing as every clone in New Eden. "He killed me and I couldn't kill him" which then translates to "He killed me because he's a:" lagswitcher cheater scrub honestly just anything but don't you dare to say that he's better than me ;) No he's hated because he's universally considered and absolute ass mainly because of how he chooses to only fight when I guess he has all the advantages on his side. Kinda silly worrying about things like KDR in a game about immortal super soldiers though..... Maybe he's an OCD Accountant who was forced into a clone, you don't know. YOU DON'T KNOW HIM TRUE!!!!! Contests, Sales, Writing etc Fly Safe
4lbert Wesker King and Queens 152	Posted - 2015.03.02 07:17:00 - [18] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Supposedly, but I have not seen for myself, The corporation is a high-tax trap for newcomers, where he immediately pockets the corp money for personal use. Duna or whomever runs it also assigns everyone a "role" to ensure that the person has to run 2 different checkout forums to exit the corp. The thing is, most newcomers don't know how to use the exit feature, as well as when they've finished the 1st half, he'll give them a new role, so they have to get out of that role AGAIN, in order to finally reach the form used to exit the corp. As I have never entered or left a Corp myself, I've only heard this takes a while to process, and is not instant, hence the exploitation time. But this is only the info I've picked up around the forums. Whats the problem with high tax? He pays for everyones tanks when youre in his squad, and theyre ******* goodtanks, on top of that he pays his corp members according to weekly performance. Also he doesnt give anyone roles, people can leave or enter whenever they want. If youve never been in a corp before then you dont get to comment on other corps I can confirm that,I used to play with Duna very often and he usually give tanks to squad members.He rewards with ISK to anyone who is active and have decent amount of kills per week.He is a nice person and a good tanker.I can guarantee that he will kill 95% tankers 1 vs 1. Don't hate him for kill farming,it's your fault you can't kill him. Public skirmish = camping games
xavier zor 0uter.Heaven 654	Posted - 2015.03.02 07:44:00 - [19] - Quote I do not hate duna corp, but duna2002 himself I do hate. I have stabbed duna, stole his tank and even messed around in his Russian squad before. I hate duna because he is one of the smartest players of Dust 514, legitimately speaking. I mean, who else knows how to get a KD of 74 using a tank vs OP swarms whilst everyone is aiming to kill you? new home <3
demonkiller 12 Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 621	Posted - 2015.03.02 07:44:00 - [20] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: Minmatar Mercenary 9292 wrote: I hate when he's on my team in skirmish, because it means there are six tanks rolling around doing nothing to capture the objectives, They all just roam around in a pack looking for stragglers to kill (as if they needed 6 tanks to kill one guy) whilst being triple capped. It's hilarious when playing against it and frustrating playing with it. A plague on both houses... But seriously, he's not godly. His bodyguards are true newbs (I've taken several out with PLC and forge). He passes behind their tanks and gets them to be his meatbags. If all else fails, he scrambles out to preserve KDR (judging by some posts, doesn't always work). The reason why they say he "ruined" Ambush was because he inspired such a scrubby tactic during the 1.7 days. You can tell he relies on meatbags because he doesn't even do AMBUSH OMS anymore (2-vehicle limit). He doesnt do ambush because you can get into regular ambush which means no vehicles and because oms has turrets that spawn

Sleepy Shadow Qualified Scrub 278	Posted - 2015.03.02 10:53:00 - [21] - Quote xavier zor wrote: I do not hate duna corp, but duna2002 himself I do hate. I have stabbed duna, stole his tank and even messed around in his Russian squad before. I hate duna because he is one of the smartest players of Dust 514, legitimately speaking. I mean, who else knows how to get a KD of 74 using a tank vs OP swarms whilst everyone is aiming to kill you? If there was an exit delay his KDR wouldnGÇÖt be anywhere near as glorious as it is now. He loses tanks left, right and centre; the reason his KDR is high is because he bails out every time just before his tank blows. He doesnGÇÖt even try to save his tank, he can afford them. If youGÇÖre lucky, and not close to his tank when it dies, you may see his cloaked up Scout ck.0 run for the hills and kill him. DonGÇÖt be too close to his tank though he often has HMG heavies in there so distance is your friend. And if you kill Duna a few times in the match he will retreat to the red line and snipe for the rest of the match. I hate it when his on my team as I know thereGÇÖs about a squadGÇÖs worth of players not contributing in any shape or form to the battle. There will be a conga line of tanks going around the map and you can guarantee they will no help you capture objectives. When they are on the opposing side at least I have food for my AV. =ƒÿ¦
xavier zor 0uter.Heaven 654	Posted - 2015.03.02 11:07:00 - [22] - Quote Sleepy Shadow wrote: xavier zor wrote: I do not hate duna corp, but duna2002 himself I do hate. I have stabbed duna, stole his tank and even messed around in his Russian squad before. I hate duna because he is one of the smartest players of Dust 514, legitimately speaking. I mean, who else knows how to get a KD of 74 using a tank vs OP swarms whilst everyone is aiming to kill you? If there was an exit delay his KDR wouldnGÇÖt be anywhere near as glorious as it is now. He loses tanks left, right and centre; the reason his KDR is high is because he bails out every time just before his tank blows. He doesnGÇÖt even try to save his tank, he can afford them. If youGÇÖre lucky, and not close to his tank when it dies, you may see his cloaked up Scout ck.0 run for the hills and kill him. DonGÇÖt be too close to his tank though he often has HMG heavies in there so distance is your friend. And if you kill Duna a few times in the match he will retreat to the red line and snipe for the rest of the match. I hate it when his on my team as I know thereGÇÖs about a squadGÇÖs worth of players not contributing in any shape or form to the battle. There will be a conga line of tanks going around the map and you can guarantee they will no help you capture objectives. When they are on the opposing side at least I have food for my AV. You will never kill duna in his tank, he hops out at under 2000 armor, never stays in. He is to smart a player to get killed by AV. An exit delay would honestly do nothing to his KD ratio. Some matches duna will snipe, some he won't. Smart player I will give him that new home <3
diablo gamekeeper T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 39	Posted - 2015.03.02 11:46:00 - [23] - Quote Its because he farmed oceania server in a tank until the second it was shutdown. Notice his kill count drastically dropped after that.
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 526	Posted - 2015.03.02 11:49:00 - [24] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: demonkiller 12 wrote: Whats the problem with high tax? He pays for everyones tanks when youre in his squad, and theyre ******* goodtanks, on top of that he pays his corp members according to weekly performance. Also he doesnt give anyone roles, people can leave or enter whenever they want. If youve never been in a corp before then you dont get to comment on other corps Mmm hmm, so what part of the above statement did I say was my own comment? Also, You've never been in Duna corp. What makes you think that you are more valid for information regarding a corp you have never been in? Oh wait, you're not. Also, information brokering is a thing you know. You don't have to be in a corporation to be able to hear about everything that goes on inside one. It kind of works that way in the real world, so fantasizing that someone who has never been in a corp has no right to comment on one... well, that's just beating your own head in with a rusty nail. That's like claiming someone doesn't have the right to know the workings of a gun, because they've never built one. Quite the contrary, one can pick them up and disassemble them to figure out how the pieces work together, and what the pieces are made of. What is duna made of? are duna pieces like reeses?
Aiwha Bait Demonic Cowboys 88	Posted - 2015.03.02 12:05:00 - [25] - Quote dzizur wrote: He's hated for the same thing as every clone in New Eden. "He killed me and I couldn't kill him" which then translates to "He killed me because he's a:" lagswitcher cheater scrub honestly just anything but don't you dare to say that he's better than me ;) You obviously haven't hung around Duna2002 then. He's a pssy ass tanker who strokes his KDR cck by hopping in his tank for the entirety of matches. "I went looking for trouble, and I found it." - Charles Ponzi
Aiwha Bait Demonic Cowboys 88	Posted - 2015.03.02 12:08:00 - [26] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Option 1 Everyone in the corp is either a newb or a newb with a tank that Duna gave them because newbies become trapped in the corp because of the broken corp mechanics. Option 2 Duna no lifes in a tank like no other. This makes people mad because they are not doing the same. Option 3 (The most likely one) The main reason is because of 1.7. This was the absolute height of Duna days. All of his tank spam was rewarded with an incredibly OP period for tanks where he just destroyed everyone without resistance. This was the reason he almost single handedly ruined ambush. Now he just runs around on Skirmish on the American server. Used to be that he'd run around Skirmish on Europe, but not after Warlords. :/ "I went looking for trouble, and I found it." - Charles Ponzi
Edau Skir2 Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 681	Posted - 2015.03.02 12:08:00 - [27] - Quote Duna hate? I've been in duna corp....was with them.for about two weeks. Before I realised that it's literally just him taking all our tax money, imagine 15-20%, whichever it was from every member... As for these so called weekly payouts? They don't.exist. I never got a damn penny from him. Was quite easily the most unorganised amd shite corp I have ever been in. Logistics mk.0 / Logibro's Modified Logistics mk.0 Scout gk.0/ Scotsman's Modified Scout gk.0 Commando gk.0
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 826	Posted - 2015.03.02 12:50:00 - [28] - Quote Edau Skir2 wrote: Duna hate? I've been in duna corp....was with them.for about two weeks. Before I realised that it's literally just him taking all our tax money, imagine 15-20%, whichever it was from every member... As for these so called weekly payouts? They don't.exist. I never got a damn penny from him. Was quite easily the most unorganised amd shite corp I have ever been in. In fairness though, this is pretty true of any corp that has a tax rate. If you aren't actively participating in PC with a corp you are wasting money so that they can. Lotteries are just like real lotteries, a large collection for a fractional payout. Lotteries and "paying out good members" (aka cronyism) etc. are just excuses for implementing the taxes. That's why people don't like corps like duna corp. Because they take in massive amounts of newbies who are too ignorant of how corporation taxation works to realize that they will never see that money. He hands out tanks like Oprah hands out new cars? Do you know how much money Oprah has? It's the common real world tactic of giving a little back from the massive amount of wealth you are vacuuming up from consumers, to appear like a good person, because hey giving .001% show's you aren't a scrooge amirite? Although I wouldn't knock Oprah so much, at least i'd say what she's doing is fairly legitimate. Corp taxes are like that Tai Lopez guy that's all over youtube. You know, the Lamborghini guy. He is getting rich off monthly "Consultation/Mentor Fees" that are a nightmare to opt out of once you get reeled in. People object to corps like duna corp for the same reason people dislike Tai Lopez. It has a reputation of being a sign up scam that's hard to get out of and preys on the ignorance of newcomers. Many online games with taxation have a taxes due system which lets players immediately bail on the guild/clan/corp if they don't want to pay said taxes. This game just deducts it immediately from all contract payments.
Raptor Princess ALLOTEC INC 153	Posted - 2015.03.02 13:11:00 - [29] - Quote I've picked up a few corp members by explaining in local how to leave duna corp when they ask why they're not getting much ISK from battles due to tax. One of them was telling me that they were in a squad with him once and because they didn't save his tank, he put the tax up to 99% for 2 days to get the money back, because it was their fault. Plus, I hate the join-my-corp spam if I end up in a match with him. I don't hate his corp though, I feel bad for the newbies trapped in it.
Edau Skir2 Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 681	Posted - 2015.03.02 13:36:00 - [30] - Quote Raptor Princess wrote: I've picked up a few corp members by explaining in local how to leave duna corp when they ask why they're not getting much ISK from battles due to tax. One of them was telling me that they were in a squad with him once and because they didn't save his tank, he put the tax up to 99% for 2 days to get the money back, because it was their fault. Plus, I hate the join-my-corp spam if I end up in a match with him. I don't hate his corp though, I feel bad for the newbies trapped in it. That 99% was exactly why I left. He wants tanks? He should earn them his damn self. If only there was a way to get everyone to leave that corp... Much happier in CS. Logistics mk.0 / Logibro's Modified Logistics mk.0 Scout gk.0/ Scotsman's Modified Scout gk.0 Commando gk.0

Nirwanda Vaughns 1483	Posted - 2015.03.02 13:47:00 - [31] - Quote I think its probably more to do with peopel believing the way he plays is 'cheap' and more concerned with a KDR than anything else in game which personally i've always been baffled why people obsess about their KDR. it ain't gonna buy you any fancy gear from a 'KDR Store' everone knows he just pads his kills out and so its kinda a waste of time. i tend to see him crop up on the EUR servers mainly running skirms, he's a decent tanker only because he usually has 1 or 2 more backing him up. 1v1 i've seen him go down pretty easily. the rest of the time he runs as soon as he takes a hit and after a while will just go sulk in the redline and railsnipe for the rest the game Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 920	Posted - 2015.03.02 14:06:00 - [32] - Quote Well, 1. He's a coward 2. His tanks sucks, so it's not about them. 3. His corp is for using new players. 4. He's no lifer, but i+Ñs not about that. 5. He always drive with 2nd tank, he always rely on his 'buddy'. That can be it. Loyal to State https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2629870#post2629870 - Mejto's trade/sale list
DDx77 The Exemplars RISE of LEGION 159	Posted - 2015.03.02 14:09:00 - [33] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Who cares... The hate comes from scrubby gameplay in kdr padding and new player scamming. Pads kdr in a tank by farming kills and bailing before death, then cloaking and hiding the rest of the match. So I hear. --- Almost exactly what I experienced when I played against him, there were multiple tanks spammed in that match Militia Bolt Pistol - Cause that fourth shot is just a waste of time
Everything Dies Not Another Dust Corporation 1258	Posted - 2015.03.02 14:20:00 - [34] - Quote Before Maddys were made obsolete, I used to run the same tank fitting as Duna--triple-repped Maddy (though I only had basic reppers at the time) + blaster turret + scanners. He still does this now, but in a Gunni with two hardeners and one scanner. It's obviously not a very durable fitting and makes for easy pickings for a rail turret, hence the need to run with at least one other tanker. For tankers, seeing Duna on the other team should pretty much equate to finishing first in WP for the match. I can understand why infantry isn't so fond of him... Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof
Damodred Matari Heavy Support INC 28	Posted - 2015.03.02 16:48:00 - [35] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: demonkiller 12 wrote: Whats the problem with high tax? He pays for everyones tanks when youre in his squad, and theyre ******* goodtanks, on top of that he pays his corp members according to weekly performance. Also he doesnt give anyone roles, people can leave or enter whenever they want. If youve never been in a corp before then you dont get to comment on other corps Mmm hmm, so what part of the above statement did I say was my own comment? Also, You've never been in Duna corp. What makes you think that you are more valid for information regarding a corp you have never been in? Oh wait, you're not. Also, information brokering is a thing you know. You don't have to be in a corporation to be able to hear about everything that goes on inside one. It kind of works that way in the real world, so fantasizing that someone who has never been in a corp has no right to comment on one... well, that's just beating your own head in with a rusty nail. That's like claiming someone doesn't have the right to know the workings of a gun, because they've never built one. Quite the contrary, one can pick them up and disassemble them to figure out how the pieces work together, and what the pieces are made of. You contradicted yourself so bad, you clearly do not lift. Rekt. I lift bro, rekt. H'renk Bomborass
Big miku Nation of Miku 434	Posted - 2015.03.02 16:53:00 - [36] - Quote Why does the literally who deserve a thread? Like literally, who is this dude you guys hate?
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3446	Posted - 2015.03.02 16:59:00 - [37] - Quote Astartes of Derp wrote: So whats the deal with all the Duna corp hate? I see it so often but there never seems to have a good reason backing it... because it's god damned annoying that every time I play against him he sends me an invite to "join-in-my-corp" at the end of the match. Every. Single. Time. If I said no the first 90 times then I'm going to still say no the other 400 times, and he's been doing this to me for friggin years... I have zero interest joining a 30% tax cop thank you, sod off. EDIT: I also don't like that he suckers new players into joining his corp who don't know that he has the tax set hellishly high until it's too late. As for his in game strategy and tactics, I don't care, it's legitimate, more power to him, let the haters hate. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 531	Posted - 2015.03.02 23:04:00 - [38] - Quote How is duna exploiting newbs any worse than the rest of you murdering them until they quit? At least he offers free tanks and support for the guys he uses. You scum just take and take.
Louis Domi Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 895	Posted - 2015.03.03 00:26:00 - [39] - Quote dzizur wrote: He's hated for the same thing as every clone in New Eden. "He killed me and I couldn't kill him" which then translates to "He killed me because he's a:" lagswitcher cheater scrub honestly just anything but don't you dare to say that he's better than me ;) I consider everyone who kills me is using some super hacks
xavier zor 0uter.Heaven 664	Posted - 2015.03.03 00:30:00 - [40] - Quote Hahaha most of you guys say he is a bad tanker and his tank sucks... He builds his tank so he had the most hp to survive him to the redline. That is why he has so much armour... Not about the survivability of his tank, it's about HIS SURVIVABILITY new home <3

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1811	Posted - 2015.03.03 01:31:00 - [41] - Quote xavier zor wrote: I do not hate duna corp, but duna2002 himself I do hate. I have stabbed duna, stole his tank and even messed around in his Russian squad before. I hate duna because he is one of the smartest players of Dust 514, legitimately speaking. I mean, who else knows how to get a KD of 74 using a tank vs OP swarms whilst everyone is aiming to kill you? Yeah he is a good tanker . I've herd about his corps tactics as far as locking players and such , hence the reason why I never joined his corp because he does ask , a lot that I can tell but he is a good tanker from what I see . I like to play in skirmish with him , I don't mind but I just don't see the tank spam when I play on the same team or against him , the most I've seen is 3 and that's not bad when you have people who use vehicles in play . People cry spam about almost everything , I see it as extra WP's when it's vehicles . I don't see him running or hiding either , but I guess my experiences playing with him is different then the ones mentioned . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
Sasha Silver MONSTER SYNERGY 69	Posted - 2015.03.03 01:33:00 - [42] - Quote I was in Duna Corp; I wanted to see if the rumours were true. I learnt that he only pays the top 3 killers in the corp every week - which are usually just the same people every week - and his corp members are oblivious to the fact that 11% tax is high. It's like North Korea in there. Sasha Silver - The ISK Whore Your friendly neighborhood forum necromancer Alt of Dreis
Slave of MORTE 345	Posted - 2015.03.03 02:16:00 - [43] - Quote Imp Smash wrote: I think you are exaggerating a bit much there NoHands. I've never once been even killed by one of his tanks. Much less had a match ruined. Saying one person ruined a game mode is a pretty big statement. Didn't ruin my matches duna like all scrubby tankers back then sticks to ambush ..He was never a competitive tanker ..I've killed h I'm in a 1 vs 2..barely a better tanker in a competitive situation than the scrubs he runs with Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
PLAYSTTION Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 599	Posted - 2015.03.03 02:29:00 - [44] - Quote I forge assist killed duna's tank. He went 1/1 400wp. He's fine to me, same with his corp. Gassault Calogi and more. Respec Pending. `- Open Beta Vet - 37.5 mil sp - - Director of Corrosive Synergy -`
xavier zor 0uter.Heaven 665	Posted - 2015.03.03 03:36:00 - [45] - Quote I feel sorry for this duna guy... His death means everything to everyone, like I got 1.4 million ISK for a bounty once because I stabbed him. Maybe if he didn't care about his KD he would not be targeted new home <3
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1556	Posted - 2015.03.03 05:40:00 - [46] - Quote I like playing AV against Duna, although not in 1.7. I seldom have killed him but he always brings other tankers and waits until you are exposed killing them before he rolls up to finish you off. I usually get those tanks and sometimes manage to escape, but one tank for one AV fit is a pretty good trade for me. The guy has dome skill and knows his angles really well, he goes to where he can get a shot and still escape on every map and every location. That takes some dedication. Selfish, manipulative and egotistical but pretty smart playing. Because, that's why.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3460	Posted - 2015.03.03 05:42:00 - [47] - Quote Oddly enough he's recently given up his Maddie Blaster for a Gunny Blaster fit, which I'm learning is not so good a fit, he must be getting bored. He is a smart bugger I'll give him that. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 919	Posted - 2015.03.03 08:21:00 - [48] - Quote join-in-my-corp -_- 6 man proto squad errday.
H0riz0n Unlimit 489	Posted - 2015.03.03 08:45:00 - [49] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: demonkiller 12 wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Supposedly, but I have not seen for myself, The corporation is a high-tax trap for newcomers, where he immediately pockets the corp money for personal use. Duna or whomever runs it also assigns everyone a "role" to ensure that the person has to run 2 different checkout forums to exit the corp. The thing is, most newcomers don't know how to use the exit feature, as well as when they've finished the 1st half, he'll give them a new role, so they have to get out of that role AGAIN, in order to finally reach the form used to exit the corp. As I have never entered or left a Corp myself, I've only heard this takes a while to process, and is not instant, hence the exploitation time. But this is only the info I've picked up around the forums. Whats the problem with high tax? He pays for everyones tanks when youre in his squad, and theyre ******* goodtanks, on top of that he pays his corp members according to weekly performance. Also he doesnt give anyone roles, people can leave or enter whenever they want. If youve never been in a corp before then you dont get to comment on other corps I can confirm that,I used to play with Duna very often and he usually give tanks to squad members.He rewards with ISK to anyone who is active and have decent amount of kills per week.He is a nice person and a good tanker.I can guarantee that he will kill 95% tankers 1 vs 1. Don't hate him for kill farming,it's your fault you can't kill him. if he is against me he dont even deploy his first tank as he know i can give my squad mates tanks and start hunt him and his friends, after those matches he usually ask me" need squad?" Lol, a tanker should run every turrept, so he is not a tanker "Doc DDD is better than you" cit. Extacy cravings; Dead man's game proud member since 09/14. Alt of The KTM(FOTM) DuKe
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 348	Posted - 2015.03.03 09:29:00 - [50] - Quote Duna is hated because he will afk if his Purdy tank gets a single scratch on it. He alone is the reason vehicles were removed from ambush. Basically an all around puss. As for the corp allegations, I have no facts so I cannot claim anything. What am I doing here?

Lorhak Gannarsein Nos Nothi 4363	Posted - 2015.03.03 10:46:00 - [51] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: Before Maddys were made obsolete, I used to run the same tank fitting as Duna--triple-repped Maddy (though I only had basic reppers at the time) + blaster turret + scanners. He still does this now, but in a Gunni with two hardeners and one scanner. It's obviously not a very durable fitting and makes for easy pickings for a rail turret, hence the need to run with at least one other tanker. For tankers, seeing Duna on the other team should pretty much equate to finishing first in WP for the match. I can understand why infantry isn't so fond of him... he isn't the issue, ever. he's never been problematic to kill, if you managed to get him by himself. The problem is that he usually has four friends in rail tanks on the field at the same time, and a guy on a turret in his own vehicle. Which makes it incredibly difficult to deal enough damage before he gets away/his friends kill you. I typically have the best luck forging him; what I'd like to do one day is to synch breach forges into him, except I'm too lazy to organise it when he's in match with me. Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'. And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 531	Posted - 2015.03.03 18:51:00 - [52] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Oddly enough he's recently given up his Maddie Blaster for a Gunny Blaster fit, which I'm learning is not so good a fit, he must be getting bored. He is a smart bugger I'll give him that. It actually isn't that odd. If he's dropping tanks he might as well drop something a random can pilot. Madrugar takes much skill.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3463	Posted - 2015.03.03 18:59:00 - [53] - Quote Proto Annihilator wrote: Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Oddly enough he's recently given up his Maddie Blaster for a Gunny Blaster fit, which I'm learning is not so good a fit, he must be getting bored. He is a smart bugger I'll give him that. It actually isn't that odd. If he's dropping tanks he might as well drop something a random can pilot. Madrugar takes much skill. So why doesn't he drop three lolblaster fits for the randoms, and then drop a real maddie blaster fit for himself then? "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3389	Posted - 2015.03.03 19:24:00 - [54] - Quote Whenever we see Duna in a match, we go out of our way to kill him. We manage it most of the time, but if we don't get him the first time, he typically hides the rest of the match. He's not nearly as good as his KDR might have you believe, but you have to tip your hat to him for playing one way (focusing on kdr) and getting as good at it has he has.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17433	Posted - 2015.03.03 19:46:00 - [55] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Whenever we see Duna in a match, we go out of our way to kill him. We manage it most of the time, but if we don't get him the first time, he typically hides the rest of the match. He's not nearly as good as his KDR might have you believe, but you have to tip your hat to him for playing one way (focusing on kdr) and getting as good at it has he has. Same..... I don't really have anything against him since I don't know him....but I do like to think that killing him once will set him back 74 kills. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 3170	Posted - 2015.03.03 19:47:00 - [56] - Quote Duna is a madman. I often join his squads and I find we are almost polar opposites in terms of style. I die a lot doing stupid plc ****. Duna always tries his hardest not to die. He is actually a cool dude if you get to know him though. Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Karam Arami transport killers 4	Posted - 2015.04.04 07:06:00 - [57] - Quote Duna. I. Hate. That. Bastard but i do admire his skills as a tanker I wish his corp would lighten up on it tho. Last battle I had with was 4 tanks all proto I hate how just 1 can rule the field. I sincerely hope that ccp reduce the number of tanks that can be called into battle by the same time on each side. If they don't they really need to buff up the AV. I'm tired of being the only person ON MY TEAM to have the BALLS to take him or his corpmates on while all the blueberries go "oh crap, its duna, time to hide forever while that one idiot tries to plasma cannon that guy." Same goes for all the PROTO TANKS theres no reason ccp shouldn't have buff the AV on the basis that a whole squad needs to team up to take them down if no one else wants to try. Every time this happens to me. Every freakin time. Dont tell me my first mistake is taking him on because it isn't I'd rather lose my kubos cannons on my best i just want this game to not have its potential ruined by its players
Aiwha Bait Demonic Cowboys 94	Posted - 2015.04.04 12:05:00 - [58] - Quote Karam Arami wrote: Duna. I. Hate. That. Bastard but i do admire his skills as a tanker I wish his corp would lighten up on it tho. Last battle I had with was 4 tanks all proto I hate how just 1 can rule the field. I sincerely hope that ccp reduce the number of tanks that can be called into battle at the same time on each side. If they don't they really need to buff up the AV. I'm tired of being the only person ON MY TEAM to have the BALLS to take him or his corpmates on while all the blueberries go "oh crap, its duna, time to hide forever while that one idiot tries to plasma cannon that guy." Same goes for all the PROTO TANKS theres no reason ccp shouldn't have buff the AV on the basis that a whole squad needs to team up to take them down if no one else wants to try. Every time this happens to me. Every freakin time. Dont tell me my first mistake is taking him on because it isn't I'd rather lose my kubos cannons on my best i just want this game to not have its potential ruined by its players Using other people's tanks to protect your own takes zero skills, mate. "I went looking for trouble, and I found it." - Charles Ponzi
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 5586	Posted - 2015.04.04 12:08:00 - [59] - Quote Duna brings in a full squad every game and then proceeds to do nothing productive with them. Having him on your team is almost a guaranteed loss. By that logic alone he should have been banned for disrupting normal gameplay a long time ago. Usually banned for being too awesome.
Karam Arami transport killers 4	Posted - 2015.04.05 02:33:00 - [60] - Quote Aiwha Bait wrote: Karam Arami wrote: Duna. I. Hate. That. Bastard but i do admire his skills as a tanker I wish his corp would lighten up on it tho. Last battle I had with was 4 tanks all proto I hate how just 1 can rule the field. I sincerely hope that ccp reduce the number of tanks that can be called into battle at the same time on each side. If they don't they really need to buff up the AV. I'm tired of being the only person ON MY TEAM to have the BALLS to take him or his corpmates on while all the blueberries go "oh crap, its duna, time to hide forever while that one idiot tries to plasma cannon that guy." Same goes for all the PROTO TANKS theres no reason ccp shouldn't have buff the AV on the basis that a whole squad needs to team up to take them down if no one else wants to try. Every time this happens to me. Every freakin time. Dont tell me my first mistake is taking him on because it isn't I'd rather lose my kubos cannons on my best i just want this game to not have its potential ruined by its players Using other people's tanks to protect your own takes zero skills, mate. He is an excellent tanker by himself. My point is I just hate that fact that people who play this game like they refuse to allow new players to progress and become good players I've even seen duna wait until an uplink will spawn an enemy and then kill with his tank rly that takes no skills either. If it takes no skill to do why is it used in a skill-based shooter? One guy posted about why is it any better than the rest of the proto stompers that murder the new players until they rage quit forever. I say dunas the biggest problem take care of him and his like that uses the same attack principles. I'm not saying ban him, I'm saying take away his ability to use his regular MO and not have his tank being sheilded by 3 other tanks while he murders everything moving. 2 tanks per side is reasonable 2 dropships and as many lavs as you want. Use of overpowered fits? Please use them by all means but make it fair to people who would rather work towards being a good player rather than respeccing, alot of players still don't even enough skill points to spec into tank even after respeccing. using the skills it took to get you there makes every on a good player, even a noob.

maluble Art.of.Death 246	Posted - 2015.04.05 02:58:00 - [61] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: demonkiller 12 wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Supposedly, but I have not seen for myself, The corporation is a high-tax trap for newcomers, where he immediately pockets the corp money for personal use. Duna or whomever runs it also assigns everyone a "role" to ensure that the person has to run 2 different checkout forums to exit the corp. The thing is, most newcomers don't know how to use the exit feature, as well as when they've finished the 1st half, he'll give them a new role, so they have to get out of that role AGAIN, in order to finally reach the form used to exit the corp. As I have never entered or left a Corp myself, I've only heard this takes a while to process, and is not instant, hence the exploitation time. But this is only the info I've picked up around the forums. Whats the problem with high tax? He pays for everyones tanks when youre in his squad, and theyre ******* goodtanks, on top of that he pays his corp members according to weekly performance. Also he doesnt give anyone roles, people can leave or enter whenever they want. If youve never been in a corp before then you dont get to comment on other corps I can confirm that,I used to play with Duna very often and he usually give tanks to squad members.He rewards with ISK to anyone who is active and have decent amount of kills per week.He is a nice person and a good tanker.I can guarantee that he will kill 95% tankers 1 vs 1. Don't hate him for kill farming,it's your fault you can't kill him. Ummmmmmm, wrong its ccp fault for making tanks op in a game that isnt big enough (community,map size,player size) to warrant tanks.
maluble Art.of.Death 246	Posted - 2015.04.05 03:01:00 - [62] - Quote xavier zor wrote: I do not hate duna corp, but duna2002 himself I do hate. I have stabbed duna, stole his tank and even messed around in his Russian squad before. I hate duna because he is one of the smartest players of Dust 514, legitimately speaking. I mean, who else knows how to get a KD of 74 using a tank vs OP swarms whilst everyone is aiming to kill you? Lol he uses corp mates as bate and runs and hides like a little school girl *** when anyone opposes him. Sounds like some * ** to me. Vehicle kills and infantry skills should be a seperate stat thus singleing out no skill tankers.
demonkiller 12 Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 689	Posted - 2015.04.15 05:54:00 - [63] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: demonkiller 12 wrote: Whats the problem with high tax? He pays for everyones tanks when youre in his squad, and theyre ***** goodtanks, on top of that he pays his corp members according to weekly performance. Also he doesnt give anyone roles, people can leave or enter whenever they want. If youve never been in a corp before then you dont get to comment on other corps Mmm hmm, so what part of the above statement did I say was my own comment? Also, You've never been in Duna corp. What makes you think that you are more valid for information regarding a corp you have never been in? Oh wait, you're not. Also, information brokering is a thing you know. You don't have to be in a corporation to be able to hear about everything that goes on inside one. It kind of works that way in the real world, so fantasizing that someone who has never been in a corp has no right to comment on one... well, that's just beating your own head in with a rusty nail. That's like claiming someone doesn't have the right to know the workings of a gun, because they've never built one. Quite the contrary, one can pick them up and disassemble them to figure out how the pieces work together, and what the pieces are made of. I was the first person to join his corp, and I kept my character in it for a while before I stopped playing my alts, I also play with him pretty much every day, and have done so since I started the game in feb 2013, dont talk ** if youre not in his corp.
demonkiller 12 Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 689	Posted - 2015.04.15 05:58:00 - [64] - Quote xavier zor wrote: I feel sorry for this duna guy... His death means everything to everyone, like I got 1.4 million ISK for a bounty once because I stabbed him. Maybe if he didn't care about his KD he would not be targeted dont blame him for caring about his KD, its because you have to pay for your vehicles that this all started, who the hell wants to lose a 2mil isk tank? thats why he played only ambush until they buffed turrets and he couldnt stay OMS, they brought out cloaks which allowed him to retreat when his tank was about to die, he is absolutely the smartest tanker in the game and all evidence points to that, doesnt matter if you use cheap tactics, if youre coming first then youre coming first
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Back and Forth 7623	Posted - 2015.04.15 06:15:00 - [65] - Quote i admire his corp. It's the type of corp i would have if i had more time.(on an alt of course) Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you. Get Dust ISK Here
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 421	Posted - 2015.04.16 06:58:00 - [66] - Quote this thread is still going? Just because your SPEEDTEST.net shows a good connection, doesn't mean you are not a lagging f*ck
Flint Beastgood III GunFall Mobilization 1632	Posted - 2015.04.16 10:04:00 - [67] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Who cares... The hate comes from scrubby gameplay in kdr padding and new player scamming. Pads kdr in a tank by farming kills and bailing before death, then cloaking and hiding the rest of the match. So I hear. ^ Exactly this. 'LR4-Trading' Protester


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