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HOLY PERFECTION OUTCAST MERCS RISE of LEGION 25	Posted - 2015.02.19 04:44:00 - [1] - Quote The past three patches have not been friendly to tanks. Swarms are becoming too powerful, and all the way to common. First of all not all swarms are powerful and OP \. Really the only one is the whycomi. Mostly because of the damage and the rate of fire. Also commandos stacking damage mods and the new warbarage thing adding 5% damage does NOT help. In conclusion it may not just be the swarms ( besides Whycomi ). It seems like it is also the commandos fault and the excessive damage mods. Basic Rundown of problems Too fast fire rate To many damage mods To cheap To much of a lock of range overall performance is to high Commando spamming mods To common To cheap How to fix it Lower fire rate to every 2.5 - 3 seconds then bumping up clip to 5 Raise the price of AV equipment in general Damage nerfed because of Commando`s Lowering every damage mod in the game STA/ADV/PRO 1/2/3 Any comment post below. Will come out with all problems with tanks and Av on forums in a little while. SO READ IT *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
Moochie Cricket Fatal Absolution 1003	Posted - 2015.02.19 04:47:00 - [2] - Quote Nope. Swarm mechanics are broken. Make them a skill weapon first, then balance. FOR THE STATE
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 2127	Posted - 2015.02.19 04:48:00 - [3] - Quote Give me a module that decreases dispersion. Let me stack them. I will handle the swarmers. It won't be cheap for anyone. Who wants some?
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3320	Posted - 2015.02.19 04:54:00 - [4] - Quote I drive a rail maddie of all things and I fear other rails more then swarms tbh. shrugs To each their own. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
DarthJT5 Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 273	Posted - 2015.02.19 04:55:00 - [5] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: The past three patches have not been friendly to tanks. Swarms are becoming too powerful, and all the way to common. First of all not all swarms are powerful and OP \. Really the only one is the whycomi. Mostly because of the damage and the rate of fire. Also commandos stacking damage mods and the new warbarage thing adding 5% damage does NOT help. In conclusion it may not just be the swarms ( besides Whycomi ). It seems like it is also the commandos fault and the excessive damage mods. Basic Rundown of problems Too fast fire rate To many damage mods To cheap To much of a lock of range overall performance is to high Commando spamming mods To common To cheap How to fix it Lower fire rate to every 2.5 - 3 seconds then bumping up clip to 5 Raise the price of AV equipment in general Damage nerfed because of Commando`s Lowering every damage mod in the game STA/ADV/PRO 1/2/3 Any comment post below. Will come out with all problems with tanks and Av on forums in a little while. SO READ IT You put "to cheap" there twice btw Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta. Veteran Python Pilot for 1 year. The awnser is always XT missiles....
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 2198	Posted - 2015.02.19 05:01:00 - [6] - Quote Inb4 no they're not Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Crimson ShieId Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1960	Posted - 2015.02.19 05:01:00 - [7] - Quote No. People seem to keep forgetting something important. It's prototype AV weaponry... and what are we driving/piloting? Basic/advanced vehicles. What we need is those vehicles added, no more buffs or nerfs. Once we've got advanced and prototype tanks/dropships, everything will fall right into place. Until then, you've just got to learn how to survive like all the tankers/pilots did before 1.7 when AV was even more dangerous and we didn't have modules and recharge rates that remained continually active. I want to punch.
benandjerrys KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 126	Posted - 2015.02.19 05:21:00 - [8] - Quote Ground gamers hate tank spam. We are not efficient to deal with tankers isk wise that is why we perform so well. A Sica is a greater threat then a pro swarmer... Now that is generally a few dedicated people to deal with one threat at a cost of losing efficiency in anti infantry. You become a liability at times to your squad as you are focused towards your role. You don't have that cr or rr but if you do your paper thin with a large hitbox. I agree with lock on penalty and range more on that later. When I hit you it should hurt, but after I hit you most tankers even now will climb a hill and turn a corner. Better solution. Restructuring maps to support a combo of calvary and cqc. Bridge skrim is a realitively good example. Follow p scan logic and apply towards lock on times based on range. If you get farther from me it should be slower. This logic matches modern motion analysis methods. Make passive lock on with high alpha and high lock on penalty for Tl;dr Kill off sup depots and drop large emps at equipment clusters and offer solutions, don't follow Nerf everything tantrums... We don't need another tanks 514 Tread Locking Proficiency V
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 455	Posted - 2015.02.19 05:35:00 - [9] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: No. People seem to keep forgetting something important. It's prototype AV weaponry... and what are we driving/piloting? Basic/advanced vehicles. What we need is those vehicles added, no more buffs or nerfs. Once we've got advanced and prototype tanks/dropships, everything will fall right into place. Until then, you've just got to learn how to survive like all the tankers/pilots did before 1.7 when AV was even more dangerous and we didn't have modules and recharge rates that remained continually active. Proto vehicles will be and should be side upgrades, not just more and more powerful versions of the same thing. Specialty tanks, with specific strengths. Hence, AV needs to be balanced to the present, standard tank ability for defense. Death is a serious business. So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
valad II Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 283	Posted - 2015.02.19 05:38:00 - [10] - Quote HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH 10/10 for troll value,,,,did you just really cry and whine that Swarms are OP? Maybe for dropships a little too much. I have seen some really good pilots rep right through it. So either you are looking for easy mode again or you just suck ballz. And should get a tampon and some midol with yuor favorite soap opera,,,which could just be Dust514.

DDx77 The Exemplars RISE of LEGION 133	Posted - 2015.02.19 05:38:00 - [11] - Quote I disagree Although not quite God-mode like in the past I've been in many matches with unkillable tanks that just circle the map and use hit and run tactics and end up with very few (if any) losses Most matches against good squads with two or more competent havs in a match and you might as well leave just to keep your blood pressure stable Your death by swarms is justified. Proto swarms on a min commando should eat your face Militia Bolt Pistol - Cause that fourth shot is just a waste of time
Lorhak Gannarsein Nos Nothi 4304	Posted - 2015.02.19 05:40:00 - [12] - Quote So do you actually tank, and are you really new? Tanks are pretty survivable right now. The Chrome vet in me thinks that HAV balance (vs infantry, at least) is better than it has been since, well, ever. Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'. And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
DarthJT5 Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 274	Posted - 2015.02.19 05:40:00 - [13] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: No. People seem to keep forgetting something important. It's prototype AV weaponry... and what are we driving/piloting? Basic/advanced vehicles. What we need is those vehicles added, no more buffs or nerfs. Once we've got advanced and prototype tanks/dropships, everything will fall right into place. Until then, you've just got to learn how to survive like all the tankers/pilots did before 1.7 when AV was even more dangerous and we didn't have modules and recharge rates that remained continually active. Proto vehicles will be and should be side upgrades, not just more and more powerful versions of the same thing. Specialty tanks, with specific strengths. Hence, AV needs to be balanced to the present, standard tank ability for defense. Ummm..... The Proto vehicles will be direct upgrades from their STD counterparts in terms or PG/CPU, which means more HP, better Turrets, more.... Everything. If that isn't a direct upgrade I don't know what is. Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta. Veteran Python Pilot for 1 year. The awnser is always XT missiles....
ADS IS OP Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2015.02.19 05:42:00 - [14] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: The past three patches have not been friendly to tanks. Swarms are becoming too powerful, and all the way to common. First of all not all swarms are powerful and OP \. Really the only one is the whycomi. Mostly because of the damage and the rate of fire. Also commandos stacking damage mods and the new warbarage thing adding 5% damage does NOT help. In conclusion it may not just be the swarms ( besides Whycomi ). It seems like it is also the commandos fault and the excessive damage mods. Basic Rundown of problems Too fast fire rate To many damage mods To cheap To much of a lock of range overall performance is to high Commando spamming mods To common To cheap How to fix it Lower fire rate to every 2.5 - 3 seconds then bumping up clip to 5 Raise the price of AV equipment in general Damage nerfed because of Commando`s Lowering every damage mod in the game STA/ADV/PRO 1/2/3 Any comment post below. Will come out with all problems with tanks and Av on forums in a little while. SO READ IT - Oh hahahahauauauahah Why you so stupid? My swarm kill YOU hahahahahahahahah I want you to die stupid dumb powerful tanker that bullets bounce off of Die die die die die die die Pewpewpewpewpewpewpew
valad II Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 283	Posted - 2015.02.19 05:46:00 - [15] - Quote ADS IS OP wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: The past three patches have not been friendly to tanks. Swarms are becoming too powerful, and all the way to common. First of all not all swarms are powerful and OP \. Really the only one is the whycomi. Mostly because of the damage and the rate of fire. Also commandos stacking damage mods and the new warbarage thing adding 5% damage does NOT help. In conclusion it may not just be the swarms ( besides Whycomi ). It seems like it is also the commandos fault and the excessive damage mods. Basic Rundown of problems Too fast fire rate To many damage mods To cheap To much of a lock of range overall performance is to high Commando spamming mods To common To cheap How to fix it Lower fire rate to every 2.5 - 3 seconds then bumping up clip to 5 Raise the price of AV equipment in general Damage nerfed because of Commando`s Lowering every damage mod in the game STA/ADV/PRO 1/2/3 Any comment post below. Will come out with all problems with tanks and Av on forums in a little while. SO READ IT - Oh hahahahauauauahah Why you so stupid? My swarm kill YOU hahahahahahahahah I want you to die stupid dumb powerful tanker that bullets bounce off of Die die die die die die die Pewpewpewpewpewpewpew +1 just for taking the time to make that alt.
Lorhak Gannarsein Nos Nothi 4304	Posted - 2015.02.19 05:47:00 - [16] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: No. People seem to keep forgetting something important. It's prototype AV weaponry... and what are we driving/piloting? Basic/advanced vehicles. What we need is those vehicles added, no more buffs or nerfs. Once we've got advanced and prototype tanks/dropships, everything will fall right into place. Until then, you've just got to learn how to survive like all the tankers/pilots did before 1.7 when AV was even more dangerous and we didn't have modules and recharge rates that remained continually active. Proto vehicles will be and should be side upgrades, not just more and more powerful versions of the same thing. Specialty tanks, with specific strengths. Hence, AV needs to be balanced to the present, standard tank ability for defense. You are categorically wrong, more's the pity. We're currently sorting out adding PRO HAVs to the mix. And I'm really sad about it. Although I am looking forward to using the extreme fitting allotment I'll have on my Cv.0 when I don't upgrade my small turrets. Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'. And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
Copharus Arkana Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 49	Posted - 2015.02.19 05:47:00 - [17] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: The past three patches have not been friendly to tanks. Swarms are becoming too powerful, and all the way to common. First of all not all swarms are powerful and OP \. Really the only one is the whycomi. Mostly because of the damage and the rate of fire. Also commandos stacking damage mods and the new warbarage thing adding 5% damage does NOT help. In conclusion it may not just be the swarms ( besides Whycomi ). It seems like it is also the commandos fault and the excessive damage mods. Basic Rundown of problems Too fast fire rate To many damage mods To cheap To much of a lock of range overall performance is to high Commando spamming mods To common To cheap How to fix it Lower fire rate to every 2.5 - 3 seconds then bumping up clip to 5 Raise the price of AV equipment in general Damage nerfed because of Commando`s Lowering every damage mod in the game STA/ADV/PRO 1/2/3 Any comment post below. Will come out with all problems with tanks and Av on forums in a little while. SO READ IT You have the right idea, but SL will need harsher nerfs since its fire and forget.
Echo 1991 State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 728	Posted - 2015.02.19 05:48:00 - [18] - Quote I Still don't see how it is OP. DMG mod stacking isn't an AV problem. Lock range is less than Max range of a forge. And if you fit a tank properly a single swarmer won't kill you.
valad II Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 283	Posted - 2015.02.19 05:51:00 - [19] - Quote What are the prices gonna be for these new HAV's? I hope 1-2 Million easily. How much fun will it be to Jihadi Jeep it with a bpo lav in a bpo drop suit just paying for the remotes. The tears are gonna fall.
Echo 1991 State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 729	Posted - 2015.02.19 05:53:00 - [20] - Quote Copharus Arkana wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: The past three patches have not been friendly to tanks. Swarms are becoming too powerful, and all the way to common. First of all not all swarms are powerful and OP \. Really the only one is the whycomi. Mostly because of the damage and the rate of fire. Also commandos stacking damage mods and the new warbarage thing adding 5% damage does NOT help. In conclusion it may not just be the swarms ( besides Whycomi ). It seems like it is also the commandos fault and the excessive damage mods. Basic Rundown of problems Too fast fire rate To many damage mods To cheap To much of a lock of range overall performance is to high Commando spamming mods To common To cheap How to fix it Lower fire rate to every 2.5 - 3 seconds then bumping up clip to 5 Raise the price of AV equipment in general Damage nerfed because of Commando`s Lowering every damage mod in the game STA/ADV/PRO 1/2/3 Any comment post below. Will come out with all problems with tanks and Av on forums in a little while. SO READ IT You have the right idea, but SL will need harsher nerfs since its fire and forget. So a weapon that cannot hurt anything other than vehicles and installations needs to be needed hard because its fire and forget? Explain why that is the case.

HOLY PERFECTION OUTCAST MERCS RISE of LEGION 27	Posted - 2015.02.19 05:55:00 - [21] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: I Still don't see how it is OP. DMG mod stacking isn't an AV problem. Lock range is less than Max range of a forge. And if you fit a tank properly a single swarmer won't kill you. You're not a tanker are you LOL 07 *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
ghost roaster stoich T.U.R.D. R.O.C.K. 0	Posted - 2015.02.19 05:56:00 - [22] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Copharus Arkana wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: The past three patches have not been friendly to tanks. Swarms are becoming too powerful, and all the way to common. First of all not all swarms are powerful and OP \. Really the only one is the whycomi. Mostly because of the damage and the rate of fire. Also commandos stacking damage mods and the new warbarage thing adding 5% damage does NOT help. In conclusion it may not just be the swarms ( besides Whycomi ). It seems like it is also the commandos fault and the excessive damage mods. Basic Rundown of problems Too fast fire rate To many damage mods To cheap To much of a lock of range overall performance is to high Commando spamming mods To common To cheap How to fix it Lower fire rate to every 2.5 - 3 seconds then bumping up clip to 5 Raise the price of AV equipment in general Damage nerfed because of Commando`s Lowering every damage mod in the game STA/ADV/PRO 1/2/3 Any comment post below. Will come out with all problems with tanks and Av on forums in a little while. SO READ IT You have the right idea, but SL will need harsher nerfs since its fire and forget. So a weapon that cannot hurt anything other than vehicles and installations needs to be needed hard because its fire and forget? Explain why that is the case. Becuz it killls their win button. Hurts their feelings? Makes them angry they just can't kill everything and blow everything up? They should make swarm launcher a side arm then everyone would carry. Would be raining in GD.
DarthJT5 Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 274	Posted - 2015.02.19 05:57:00 - [23] - Quote valad II wrote: What are the prices gonna be for these new HAV's? I hope 1-2 Million easily. How much fun will it be to Jihadi Jeep it with a bpo lav in a bpo drop suit just paying for the remotes. The tears are gonna fall. Seeing as how those don't even pop my Gunnys today, I highly doubt I'm going to have trouble with a extra thousand shields. Good luck though. Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta. Veteran Python Pilot for 1 year. The awnser is always XT missiles....
Echo 1991 State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 729	Posted - 2015.02.19 05:58:00 - [24] - Quote I've used tanks. The only thing that will kill a properly fit gunnlogi is another tank or several AV users. You don't use swarms do you?
HOLY PERFECTION OUTCAST MERCS RISE of LEGION 27	Posted - 2015.02.19 06:05:00 - [25] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: I Still don't see how it is OP. DMG mod stacking isn't an AV problem. Lock range is less than Max range of a forge. And if you fit a tank properly a single swarmer won't kill you. i've used tanks. The only thing that will kill a properly fit gunnlogi is another tank or several AV users. You don't use swarms do you? Ya.. right How long has it been since you went up against an actual Swarm *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
Lorhak Gannarsein Nos Nothi 4305	Posted - 2015.02.19 06:17:00 - [26] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: I Still don't see how it is OP. DMG mod stacking isn't an AV problem. Lock range is less than Max range of a forge. And if you fit a tank properly a single swarmer won't kill you. i've used tanks. The only thing that will kill a properly fit gunnlogi is another tank or several AV users. You don't use swarms do you? Ya.. right How long has it been since you went up against an actual Swarm I tanked three of them through my hardener two days ago. Then my hardener went down and a forge gunner killed me :( Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'. And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries 879	Posted - 2015.02.19 06:19:00 - [27] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: I Still don't see how it is OP. DMG mod stacking isn't an AV problem. Lock range is less than Max range of a forge. And if you fit a tank properly a single swarmer won't kill you. i've used tanks. The only thing that will kill a properly fit gunnlogi is another tank or several AV users. You don't use swarms do you? Ya.. right How long has it been since you went up against an actual Swarm actual swarm? lololololol. lock on range is so short. just activate booster and drive away. i know tankers who never die to swarms, just other tanks. LogicGäó
DarthJT5 Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 276	Posted - 2015.02.19 06:20:00 - [28] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: I Still don't see how it is OP. DMG mod stacking isn't an AV problem. Lock range is less than Max range of a forge. And if you fit a tank properly a single swarmer won't kill you. i've used tanks. The only thing that will kill a properly fit gunnlogi is another tank or several AV users. You don't use swarms do you? Ya.. right How long has it been since you went up against an actual Swarm I have never been solo'ed by a swarmer since 1.7 dropped...... Like ever. Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta. Veteran Python Pilot for 1 year. The awnser is always XT missiles....
HOLY PERFECTION OUTCAST MERCS RISE of LEGION 29	Posted - 2015.02.19 08:53:00 - [29] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: I Still don't see how it is OP. DMG mod stacking isn't an AV problem. Lock range is less than Max range of a forge. And if you fit a tank properly a single swarmer won't kill you. i've used tanks. The only thing that will kill a properly fit gunnlogi is another tank or several AV users. You don't use swarms do you? Ya.. right How long has it been since you went up against an actual Swarm actual swarm? lololololol. lock on range is so short. just activate booster and drive away. i know tankers who never die to swarms, just other tanks. Ya you hold tanks in their redlines the entire match. Sooooooo fun huh *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
4lbert Wesker WESKER S.T.A.R.S 107	Posted - 2015.02.19 09:09:00 - [30] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: The past three patches have not been friendly to tanks. Swarms are becoming too powerful, and all the way to common. First of all not all swarms are powerful and OP \. Really the only one is the whycomi. Mostly because of the damage and the rate of fire. Also commandos stacking damage mods and the new warbarage thing adding 5% damage does NOT help. In conclusion it may not just be the swarms ( besides Whycomi ). It seems like it is also the commandos fault and the excessive damage mods. Basic Rundown of problems Too fast fire rate To many damage mods To cheap To much of a lock of range overall performance is to high Commando spamming mods To common To cheap How to fix it Lower fire rate to every 2.5 - 3 seconds then bumping up clip to 5 Raise the price of AV equipment in general Damage nerfed because of Commando`s Lowering every damage mod in the game STA/ADV/PRO 1/2/3 Any comment post below. Will come out with all problems with tanks and Av on forums in a little while. SO READ IT OMFG...Heavies are OP,scouts are OP and now swarms are op...Let me tell this,you know how many of players out of 16 will chase out tank?Maybe one...And that leaves you with a conclusion: "Tank vs one dude with "OP" swarm" and of course,tank will win in 90%.If you die too often by swarm then get good or stop driving tanks.Period. Public skirmish = camping games

P14GU3 Savage Bullet 1251	Posted - 2015.02.19 12:25:00 - [31] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: I Still don't see how it is OP. DMG mod stacking isn't an AV problem. Lock range is less than Max range of a forge. And if you fit a tank properly a single swarmer won't kill you. Max range is actually less than a blaster, so ANY tank can stay out of swarm range and still kill.. 'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 805	Posted - 2015.02.19 12:30:00 - [32] - Quote Commando is fat and slow, has next to no slots compared to other suits. I'll be honest, if someone wants to shoot me with swarms, I'd rather they were in the easy to drop commando.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 2935	Posted - 2015.02.19 13:23:00 - [33] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: No. People seem to keep forgetting something important. It's prototype AV weaponry... and what are we driving/piloting? Basic/advanced vehicles. What we need is those vehicles added, no more buffs or nerfs. Once we've got advanced and prototype tanks/dropships, everything will fall right into place. Until then, you've just got to learn how to survive like all the tankers/pilots did before 1.7 when AV was even more dangerous and we didn't have modules and recharge rates that remained continually active. PRO in name only. Nope. Confirming that pilot input is not, and never was, valued. - Breakin Stuff
Moochie Cricket Fatal Absolution 1005	Posted - 2015.02.19 15:44:00 - [34] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Commando is fat and slow, has next to no slots compared to other suits. I'll be honest, if someone wants to shoot me with swarms, I'd rather they were in the easy to drop commando. I regularly use a commando with swarms in PC, and do very well in the anti infantry role with my damage modded arr. FOR THE STATE
Kuruld Sengar T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 217	Posted - 2015.02.19 16:03:00 - [35] - Quote ADS IS OP wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: The past three patches have not been friendly to tanks. Swarms are becoming too powerful, and all the way to common. First of all not all swarms are powerful and OP \. Really the only one is the whycomi. Mostly because of the damage and the rate of fire. Also commandos stacking damage mods and the new warbarage thing adding 5% damage does NOT help. In conclusion it may not just be the swarms ( besides Whycomi ). It seems like it is also the commandos fault and the excessive damage mods. Basic Rundown of problems Too fast fire rate To many damage mods To cheap To much of a lock of range overall performance is to high Commando spamming mods To common To cheap How to fix it Lower fire rate to every 2.5 - 3 seconds then bumping up clip to 5 Raise the price of AV equipment in general Damage nerfed because of Commando`s Lowering every damage mod in the game STA/ADV/PRO 1/2/3 Any comment post below. Will come out with all problems with tanks and Av on forums in a little while. SO READ IT - Oh hahahahauauauahah Why you so stupid? My swarm kill YOU hahahahahahahahah I want you to die stupid dumb powerful tanker that bullets bounce off of Die die die die die die die Pewpewpewpewpewpewpew ...
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 15680	Posted - 2015.02.19 16:25:00 - [36] - Quote 1. False; Rate of Fire is slower than AFG and PLCs, while only being faster than NFG by 0.4s 2. Not an argument. 3. Subjective; irrelevant 4. False; How is the range too much when the FG has twice it's range? 5. Your post fails to support this claim. 6. Not an argument; irrelevant. 7. Not an argument; irrelevant. 8. Subjective; irrelevant. 9. The Swarm Launcher's RoF already is 2.6s (1) making your request repetitive. 10. Because they're too easy to afford? Shall we reaise the price of vehicles because I've got enough funds to afford them for the rest of the game? 11. The Commando's +10% bonus doesn't affect the TTK. (2) 12. Damage Modifiers will remain 3/5/7% 13. Please refrain from making posts about V/AV balance if you don't know what you're talking about. --- (1) Proof that Swarms require 2.6s to fire a volley. (2) Damage Boosts compared to other Dropsuits (2a) Example showing that values 5% and less don't affect SL TTK The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Mex-0 T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 410	Posted - 2015.02.19 16:27:00 - [37] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Inb4 no they're not no they're not Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
Copharus Arkana Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 49	Posted - 2015.02.19 16:56:00 - [38] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Copharus Arkana wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: The past three patches have not been friendly to tanks. Swarms are becoming too powerful, and all the way to common. First of all not all swarms are powerful and OP \. Really the only one is the whycomi. Mostly because of the damage and the rate of fire. Also commandos stacking damage mods and the new warbarage thing adding 5% damage does NOT help. In conclusion it may not just be the swarms ( besides Whycomi ). It seems like it is also the commandos fault and the excessive damage mods. Basic Rundown of problems Too fast fire rate To many damage mods To cheap To much of a lock of range overall performance is to high Commando spamming mods To common To cheap How to fix it Lower fire rate to every 2.5 - 3 seconds then bumping up clip to 5 Raise the price of AV equipment in general Damage nerfed because of Commando`s Lowering every damage mod in the game STA/ADV/PRO 1/2/3 Any comment post below. Will come out with all problems with tanks and Av on forums in a little while. SO READ IT You have the right idea, but SL will need harsher nerfs since its fire and forget. So a weapon that cannot hurt anything other than vehicles and installations needs to be needed hard because its fire and forget? Explain why that is the case. Don't pretend like you can't fight infantry as an AV player. Unless your stupid enough to use a logi suit, you have a side arm, or most likely another light weapon slot. You still have all your infantry killing abilities, plus the ability to hit vehicles with insane amounts of damage per volly, without even having to actually aim. I know everyone thinks ARR is op, but at least you have to aim with it. The SL could effectively be used by a monkey, all you need for it in terms of sacrifice is SP, and that costs the same as every other light weapone. We put so much sp and isk into our tanks. We can't go inside places like infantry can, we can't hack like infantry can, and we can't hide like infantry. We sacrifice a lot when we drive tanks, what do you sacrifice?
Echo 1991 State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 730	Posted - 2015.02.19 17:51:00 - [39] - Quote Copharus Arkana wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Copharus Arkana wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: The past three patches have not been friendly to tanks. Swarms are becoming too powerful, and all the way to common. First of all not all swarms are powerful and OP \. Really the only one is the whycomi. Mostly because of the damage and the rate of fire. Also commandos stacking damage mods and the new warbarage thing adding 5% damage does NOT help. In conclusion it may not just be the swarms ( besides Whycomi ). It seems like it is also the commandos fault and the excessive damage mods. Basic Rundown of problems Too fast fire rate To many damage mods To cheap To much of a lock of range overall performance is to high Commando spamming mods To common To cheap How to fix it Lower fire rate to every 2.5 - 3 seconds then bumping up clip to 5 Raise the price of AV equipment in general Damage nerfed because of Commando`s Lowering every damage mod in the game STA/ADV/PRO 1/2/3 Any comment post below. Will come out with all problems with tanks and Av on forums in a little while. SO READ IT You have the right idea, but SL will need harsher nerfs since its fire and forget. So a weapon that cannot hurt anything other than vehicles and installations needs to be needed hard because its fire and forget? Explain why that is the case. Don't pretend like you can't fight infantry as an AV player. Unless your stupid enough to use a logi suit, you have a side arm, or most likely another light weapon slot. You still have all your infantry killing abilities, plus the ability to hit vehicles with insane amounts of damage per volly, without even having to actually aim. I know everyone thinks ARR is op, but at least you have to aim with it. The SL could effectively be used by a monkey, all you need for it in terms of sacrifice is SP, and that costs the same as every other light weapone. We put so much sp and isk into our tanks. We can't go inside places like infantry can, we can't hack like infantry can, and we can't hide like infantry. We sacrifice a lot when we drive tanks, what do you sacrifice? In order for AV to work, you need damage mods, so I'm already sacrificing health in order to deal enough damage. I can get shot by every person on the enemy team and have to use a sidearm as my main form of defence, most of which are useless outside of close range meaning if I get pinged by a RR, ScR or CR outside of that range I cannot fight back. To compensate for shield losses, shield suits have to use armour to make up for it. Making them slow. I lose more suits than you lose tanks, therefore I lose more isk. You get to drive around in a 5k HP secondary suit and you're compiling you can't hack a objective in a tank and get into small areas?? Get a grip. Tanking doesn't exactly take skill; drive into an area, shoot things, get shot at and drive off.
HOLY PERFECTION OUTCAST MERCS RISE of LEGION 31	Posted - 2015.02.20 06:03:00 - [40] - Quote Your logic is completely bull and unsupported echo *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*

KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1781	Posted - 2015.02.20 12:21:00 - [41] - Quote Moochie Cricket wrote: Nope. Swarm mechanics are broken. Make them a skill weapon first, then balance. This. The answer
Haerr Nos Nothi 2340	Posted - 2015.02.20 12:26:00 - [42] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Moochie Cricket wrote: Nope. Swarm mechanics are broken. Make them a skill weapon first, then balance. This. +1 Half-Life 2: RPG
PLAYSTTION Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 509	Posted - 2015.02.20 12:31:00 - [43] - Quote Nerfing damage mods just to balance swarms...I don't like it. Gassault Calogi and more. Respec Pending. `- Open Beta Vet - 36.5 mil sp - - Director of Corrosive Synergy -`
CaoticFox Axis of Chaos 218	Posted - 2015.02.20 14:21:00 - [44] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: The past three patches have not been friendly to tanks. Swarms are becoming too powerful, and all the way to common. First of all not all swarms are powerful and OP \. Really the only one is the whycomi. Mostly because of the damage and the rate of fire. Also commandos stacking damage mods and the new warbarage thing adding 5% damage does NOT help. In conclusion it may not just be the swarms ( besides Whycomi ). It seems like it is also the commandos fault and the excessive damage mods. Basic Rundown of problems Too fast fire rate To many damage mods To cheap To much of a lock of range overall performance is to high Commando spamming mods To common To cheap How to fix it Lower fire rate to every 2.5 - 3 seconds then bumping up clip to 5 Raise the price of AV equipment in general Damage nerfed because of Commando`s Lowering every damage mod in the game STA/ADV/PRO 1/2/3 Any comment post below. Will come out with all problems with tanks and Av on forums in a little while. SO READ IT its PRO... ur tank is STD... get a CLUE!!! My SP is irrelevant... This game sucks, more than anything has sucked before. & GETTING WORSE!!!
HOLY PERFECTION OUTCAST MERCS RISE of LEGION 32	Posted - 2015.02.20 16:21:00 - [45] - Quote CaoticFox wrote: HOLY PERFECTION wrote: The past three patches have not been friendly to tanks. Swarms are becoming too powerful, and all the way to common. First of all not all swarms are powerful and OP \. Really the only one is the whycomi. Mostly because of the damage and the rate of fire. Also commandos stacking damage mods and the new warbarage thing adding 5% damage does NOT help. In conclusion it may not just be the swarms ( besides Whycomi ). It seems like it is also the commandos fault and the excessive damage mods. Basic Rundown of problems Too fast fire rate To many damage mods To cheap To much of a lock of range overall performance is to high Commando spamming mods To common To cheap How to fix it Lower fire rate to every 2.5 - 3 seconds then bumping up clip to 5 Raise the price of AV equipment in general Damage nerfed because of Commando`s Lowering every damage mod in the game STA/ADV/PRO 1/2/3 Any comment post below. Will come out with all problems with tanks and Av on forums in a little while. SO READ IT its PRO... ur tank is STD... get a CLUE!!! I run full proto on my tank, get a clue *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
altair Dovahkiin Minmatar Republic 24	Posted - 2015.02.20 16:32:00 - [46] - Quote HOLY PERFECTION wrote: The past three patches have not been friendly to tanks. Swarms are becoming too powerful, and all the way to common. First of all not all swarms are powerful and OP \. Really the only one is the whycomi. Mostly because of the damage and the rate of fire. Also commandos stacking damage mods and the new warbarage thing adding 5% damage does NOT help. In conclusion it may not just be the swarms ( besides Whycomi ). It seems like it is also the commandos fault and the excessive damage mods. Basic Rundown of problems Too fast fire rate To many damage mods To cheap To much of a lock of range overall performance is to high Commando spamming mods To common To cheap How to fix it Lower fire rate to every 2.5 - 3 seconds then bumping up clip to 5 Raise the price of AV equipment in general Damage nerfed because of Commando`s Lowering every damage mod in the game STA/ADV/PRO 1/2/3 Any comment post below. Will come out with all problems with tanks and Av on forums in a little while. SO READ IT what is your HP on your tank Bravery doesn't mean you aren't scared. It means you go anyway


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