DUST Search - CLOAKS

All Channels

Feedback/Requests

CLOAKS

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 2 :: [one page]

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 179	Posted - 2015.02.15 15:03:00 - [1] - Quote CCP-you HAVE to make them more invisible. I am playing RIGHT now and have died 5 times just running through a field. 3 people shooting me. Any can see cloaks running in most maps. There is really.... No point in them. I am running around people and most can see me. " how do you know they can?" Well, I have 3 enhanced kincats on a gal scout, running as fast as il they can take me. I can hear at least 5 different weapons either hit me or fly by me. What's the point of cloaks now? Make them harder to see by toning down the color of them. Make them more "invisible". This will also help with spawn camping. By the way, what's up with warlords? My PS3 is freezing now and I just got a "fatal error-quit game" message. 48th Special Operations Force. "As a team or alone, I dominate the battlefield."
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 5387	Posted - 2015.02.15 15:29:00 - [2] - Quote Don't use them in dark maps only in the sunlight (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 730	Posted - 2015.02.15 15:33:00 - [3] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Don't use them in dark maps only in the sunlight Best advice ever, seriously, the cloak is near invisible on a sunny day. Running through shadows, you're less visible without a cloak... Found my favorite DJ - ATB
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 15647	Posted - 2015.02.15 15:38:00 - [4] - Quote Cloaks are fine, they make people ridiculously difficult to spot in daylight unless you adjust your TV settings to the point where it will surely reduce it's lifespan. Them being easier to spot in darker areas is what we educated players like to call, a situational weakness. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 179	Posted - 2015.02.15 15:45:00 - [5] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Don't use them in dark maps only in the sunlight In sunlight is when I died so many times. Cloaks are fine, they make people ridiculously difficult to spot in daylight unless you adjust your TV settings to the point where it will surely reduce it's lifespan. Them being easier to spot in darker areas is what we educated players like to call, a situational weakness. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND - THEY ARE NOT FINE. In day light was when I died so many times. I kept trying to run around, but anyone can see me. That map was a Dom with one of those buildings that have ladders on all 4 sides. 48th Special Operations Force. "As a team or alone, I dominate the battlefield."
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 15649	Posted - 2015.02.15 16:18:00 - [6] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Atiim wrote: Cloaks are fine, they make people ridiculously difficult to spot in daylight unless you adjust your TV settings to the point where it will surely reduce it's lifespan. Them being easier to spot in darker areas is what we educated players like to call, a situational weakness. - THEY ARE NOT FINE. In day light was when I died so many times. I kept trying to run around, but anyone can see me. That map was a Dom with one of those buildings that have ladders on all 4 sides. If you died while in the sunlight, that means the people who were killing you were being attentive, which still isn't a reason as to why the Cloak Field needs a buff. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 181	Posted - 2015.02.15 16:51:00 - [7] - Quote Atiim wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Atiim wrote: Cloaks are fine, they make people ridiculously difficult to spot in daylight unless you adjust your TV settings to the point where it will surely reduce it's lifespan. Them being easier to spot in darker areas is what we educated players like to call, a situational weakness. - THEY ARE NOT FINE. In day light was when I died so many times. I kept trying to run around, but anyone can see me. That map was a Dom with one of those buildings that have ladders on all 4 sides. If you died while in the sunlight, that means the people who were killing you were being attentive, which still isn't a reason as to why the Cloak Field needs a buff. I run past some who is spawning. What do they do, find me. They still kill. They can see me. Attentive or not. HECK I've run through GROUPS of clocked scouts. And they kill me cuz I'm a lone wolf. The point is that they can see me and I can see them attentive or not. Cloaks need more invisibility. 48th Special Operations Force. "As a team or alone, I dominate the battlefield."
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 7862	Posted - 2015.02.15 16:55:00 - [8] - Quote Atiim wrote: Cloaks are fine, they make people ridiculously difficult to spot in daylight unless you adjust your TV settings to the point where it will surely reduce it's lifespan. Them being easier to spot in darker areas is what we educated players like to call, a situational weakness. So its perfectly ok that certain roles are entirely null and void just because you got Ashland on a dark map? Bullsh*t. There isn't a single map that is entirely open with no walls or structures that would negate heavies. No map that completely negates all tank and vehicle usage. No map or setting that completely negates Logi usage. No map that prevents Assaults from assaulting. Just the other day, my team was getting stomped on Ashland on a dark map. I pulled out my hacking scout, which is 200 HP, ran and hacked and gave my clones and ISK for death just to make the attempt to make the game playable and competative, and was largely ineffective because of the shimmer. I will reiterate. No other role gets completely negated by a mood, not one other. These aren't slayers you are negating, as those largely have ditched the cloak, and most of my fits no longer have them. What you are negating are legitimate roles that shouldn't be limited just because the entire map is dark. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 952	Posted - 2015.02.15 17:19:00 - [9] - Quote I kinda like the mechanic (even if it was unintended) of avoiding the shadows while cloaked. Makes for pretty interesting stealth play. I feel you should still be forced to be stealthy even while cloaked; the point of it isn't to be completely invisible while sprinting through open areas. Having said that, I would like to see more variance on the amount of shimmer depending on speed. IE: The shimmer should get brighter the faster you're moving (up to the current level shimmer when moving). This would at least allow people to crouch and move slowly and stay much more shrouded than they can now. Who cares what some sniper has to say. CCP, let's push for the license of Dust/Legion on both current Gen consoles!
Pocket Rocket Girl Psygod9 304	Posted - 2015.02.15 17:31:00 - [10] - Quote they could have had a GK0 scout with much better ewar than you i mean you did say you had kin cats which prevent you from using dampers. just because you died 5 times doing the same thing over and over dosent mean that cloaks need a buff if thats the case then my HMG has a ***** of a time getting through caldari shields so i want a damage bonus for my HMG to compensate for it or i could try to smarter, i bet you were trying to remote some one too Sir Dukey- If one person is smart he should be able to keep vehicle at bay but not destroy it unless its a stupid driver

Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2986	Posted - 2015.02.15 17:55:00 - [11] - Quote The only thing that needs changed with the cloak is the switching time. Before you start, THERE SHOULD BE A DELAY BETWEEN BEING CLOAKED AND ATTACKING, but the band-aid fix of increasing the swap time makes accidentally pulling out the cloak a pain. Dust is there! I was real! Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
TritusX PH4NT0M5 280	Posted - 2015.02.15 23:34:00 - [12] - Quote You say you use three kincats? No damps? It's the chevron bobbing above your head Forced Death
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 181	Posted - 2015.02.15 23:43:00 - [13] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Atiim wrote: Cloaks are fine, they make people ridiculously difficult to spot in daylight unless you adjust your TV settings to the point where it will surely reduce it's lifespan. Them being easier to spot in darker areas is what we educated players like to call, a situational weakness. So its perfectly ok that certain roles are entirely null and void just because you got Ashland on a dark map? Bullsh*t. There isn't a single map that is entirely open with no walls or structures that would negate heavies. No map that completely negates all tank and vehicle usage. No map or setting that completely negates Logi usage. No map that prevents Assaults from assaulting. Just the other day, my team was getting stomped on Ashland on a dark map. I pulled out my hacking scout, which is 200 HP, ran and hacked and gave my clones and ISK for death just to make the attempt to make the game playable and competative, and was largely ineffective because of the shimmer. I will reiterate. No other role gets completely negated by a mood, not one other. These aren't slayers you are negating, as those largely have ditched the cloak, and most of my fits no longer have them. What you are negating are legitimate roles that shouldn't be limited just because the entire map is dark. Preach=ƒÖî 48th Special Operations Force. "As a team or alone, I dominate the battlefield."
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 181	Posted - 2015.02.15 23:49:00 - [14] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: I kinda like the mechanic (even if it was unintended) of avoiding the shadows while cloaked. Makes for pretty interesting stealth play. I feel you should still be forced to be stealthy even while cloaked; the point of it isn't to be completely invisible while sprinting through open areas. Having said that, I would like to see more variance on the amount of shimmer depending on speed. IE: The shimmer should get brighter the faster you're moving (up to the current level shimmer when moving). This would at least allow people to crouch and move slowly and stay much more shrouded than they can now. Open area or not. It always happens to me. Someone, attentive or not sees me, day or night. The reason I posted it today and in an open area es because its RIDICULOUS the amount of times someone spotted me- from 130m + - by so many people. Only way to get close to objective was by cloak because other team had a squad of snipers and our team was pushed back to mcc/cru. 48th Special Operations Force. "As a team or alone, I dominate the battlefield."
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 181	Posted - 2015.02.15 23:54:00 - [15] - Quote Pocket Rocket Girl wrote: they could have had a GK0 scout with much better ewar than you i mean you did say you had kin cats which prevent you from using dampers. just because you died 5 times doing the same thing over and over dosent mean that cloaks need a buff if thats the case then my HMG has a ***** of a time getting through caldari shields so i want a damage bonus for my HMG to compensate for it or i could try to smarter, i bet you were trying to remote some one too Nope. I wish I had tho. I was running knives but that had nothing to do with it. I was at least 150 m from objective. Enemy had full control of it. It's the open area map so the only way to get near the objective was to run cloak. I was to far to be scanned, yet rail rifles and scrambler rifles were shot at me many times. The problem is the shimmer. It's to bright. It needs to be toned down a bit to give more "invisibility". Of course not to the point that no one will see me, but at least to the point that someone would have to be at 40m or less to see me running. 48th Special Operations Force. "As a team or alone, I dominate the battlefield."
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 181	Posted - 2015.02.15 23:56:00 - [16] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: The only thing that needs changed with the cloak is the switching time. Before you start, THERE SHOULD BE A DELAY BETWEEN BEING CLOAKED AND ATTACKING, but the band-aid fix of increasing the swap time makes accidentally pulling out the cloak a pain. The delay doesn't really bother me any more. It's all about HOW VISIBLE CLOAKED SCOUTS ARE TO THE EYE. 48th Special Operations Force. "As a team or alone, I dominate the battlefield."
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 1026	Posted - 2015.02.16 00:01:00 - [17] - Quote I barely get killed when I am running my MinScout with a STD Cloak when I'm cloaked. Maybe you are running way to close to your enemy? Changes to Damage mods!
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6721	Posted - 2015.02.16 00:01:00 - [18] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Don't use them in dark maps only in the sunlight Exactly like: * Sentinel Perks: explosive resistance doesn't apply in the dark. * Logi Perks: cannot use EQ in the dark. * Assault Perks: +2 slots, heavy-like HP, scout-like speed all disabled when in the dark. * Commando Perks: cannot use two light weapons in the dark. ( +1 for less shimmer. For those who think it is fine, grab a sniper rifle and a hillside vantage next time you queue for Ambush. Remember, the purpose of cloak is to cross open terrain / move from cover-to-cover undetected. ) Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1529	Posted - 2015.02.16 00:25:00 - [19] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Don't use them in dark maps only in the sunlight In sunlight is when I died so many times. Cloaks are fine, they make people ridiculously difficult to spot in daylight unless you adjust your TV settings to the point where it will surely reduce it's lifespan. Them being easier to spot in darker areas is what we educated players like to call, a situational weakness. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND - THEY ARE NOT FINE. In day light was when I died so many times. I kept trying to run around, but anyone can see me. That map was a Dom with one of those buildings that have ladders on all 4 sides. I suggest you try running the same fit without a cloak. I think you will find it is far from useless. It you still think it remains useless, dump it and use the extra fitting space to make your suit really good and you can then be a proper scout. Because, that's why.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6721	Posted - 2015.02.16 00:27:00 - [20] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: ... dump it and use the extra fitting space to make your suit really good and you can then be a proper scout. The Scout class bonus is a fitting reduction to cloak. Seems to me, a "proper" Scout would fit a cloak. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley

Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1530	Posted - 2015.02.16 00:28:00 - [21] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Don't use them in dark maps only in the sunlight Exactly like: * Sentinel Perks: explosive resistance doesn't apply in the dark. * Logi Perks: cannot use EQ in the dark. * Assault Perks: +2 slots, heavy-like HP, scout-like speed all disabled when in the dark. * Commando Perks: cannot use two light weapons in the dark. ( +1 for less shimmer. For those who think it is fine, grab a sniper rifle and a hillside vantage next time you queue for Ambush. Remember, the purpose of cloak is to cross open terrain / move from cover-to-cover undetected. ) I run right past people all the time in a cloak. I also can infiltrate a crowd of reds quite often. I also often don't see a cloaker until they uncloak. I'll admit to some bias though, I think cloaks are the worst thing to intentionally be added to this game. Because, that's why.
Varoth Drac State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 584	Posted - 2015.02.16 00:54:00 - [22] - Quote Getting spotted whilst cloaked happens too often. It does get very frustrating and makes you wonder why you equipped a cloak in the first place. It doesn't need a huge change, just some reduced shimmer.
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 184	Posted - 2015.02.16 01:18:00 - [23] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: Getting spotted whilst cloaked happens too often. It does get very frustrating and makes you wonder why you equipped a cloak in the first place. It doesn't need a huge change, just some reduced shimmer. That's the whole point of this post. Make them harder to see. Reduce the shimmer 48th Special Operations Force. "As a team or alone, I dominate the battlefield."
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 1293	Posted - 2015.02.16 01:29:00 - [24] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: CCP-you HAVE to make them more invisible. Make it so that I do not see them in this game. Thank you. Please support fair play!
Vesta Opalus T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 429	Posted - 2015.02.16 03:14:00 - [25] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: CCP-you HAVE to make them more invisible. I am playing RIGHT now and have died 5 times just running through a field. 3 people shooting me. Any can see cloaks running in most maps. There is really.... No point in them. I am running around people and most can see me. " how do you know they can?" Well, I have 3 enhanced kincats on a gal scout, running as fast as il they can take me. I can hear at least 5 different weapons either hit me or fly by me. I am NOT in range of scanners and I am well over 130m away from closest enemies. Shots start to wiz by. What's the point of cloaks now? Make them harder to see by toning down the color of them. Make them more "invisible". This will also help with spawn camping. By the way, what's up with warlords? My PS3 is freezing now and I just got a "fatal error-quit game" message. Stop trying to run across open fields with three people sitting there waiting on you? Its not there to make you invisible, its there to make you LESS visible.
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 184	Posted - 2015.02.16 13:00:00 - [26] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: CCP-you HAVE to make them more invisible. I am playing RIGHT now and have died 5 times just running through a field. 3 people shooting me. Any can see cloaks running in most maps. There is really.... No point in them. I am running around people and most can see me. " how do you know they can?" Well, I have 3 enhanced kincats on a gal scout, running as fast as il they can take me. I can hear at least 5 different weapons either hit me or fly by me. I am NOT in range of scanners and I am well over 130m away from closest enemies. Shots start to wiz by. What's the point of cloaks now? Make them harder to see by toning down the color of them. Make them more "invisible". This will also help with spawn camping. By the way, what's up with warlords? My PS3 is freezing now and I just got a "fatal error-quit game" message. Stop trying to run across open fields with three people sitting there waiting on you? Its not there to make you invisible, its there to make you LESS visible. The whole map was an open field. 48th Special Operations Force. "As a team or alone, I dominate the battlefield."
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 630	Posted - 2015.02.16 13:17:00 - [27] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Atiim wrote: Cloaks are fine, they make people ridiculously difficult to spot in daylight unless you adjust your TV settings to the point where it will surely reduce it's lifespan. Them being easier to spot in darker areas is what we educated players like to call, a situational weakness. So its perfectly ok that certain roles are entirely null and void just because you got Ashland on a dark map? Bullsh*t. There isn't a single map that is entirely open with no walls or structures that would negate heavies. No map that completely negates all tank and vehicle usage. No map or setting that completely negates Logi usage. No map that prevents Assaults from assaulting. Just the other day, my team was getting stomped on Ashland on a dark map. I pulled out my hacking scout, which is 200 HP, ran and hacked and gave my clones and ISK for death just to make the attempt to make the game playable and competative, and was largely ineffective because of the shimmer. I will reiterate. No other role gets completely negated by a mood, not one other. These aren't slayers you are negating, as those largely have ditched the cloak, and most of my fits no longer have them. What you are negating are legitimate roles that shouldn't be limited just because the entire map is dark. So what you're saying is a cloak is the only way to make a viable scout? Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 184	Posted - 2015.02.16 14:04:00 - [28] - Quote Cyzad4 wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Atiim wrote: Cloaks are fine, they make people ridiculously difficult to spot in daylight unless you adjust your TV settings to the point where it will surely reduce it's lifespan. Them being easier to spot in darker areas is what we educated players like to call, a situational weakness. So its perfectly ok that certain roles are entirely null and void just because you got Ashland on a dark map? Bullsh*t. There isn't a single map that is entirely open with no walls or structures that would negate heavies. No map that completely negates all tank and vehicle usage. No map or setting that completely negates Logi usage. No map that prevents Assaults from assaulting. Just the other day, my team was getting stomped on Ashland on a dark map. I pulled out my hacking scout, which is 200 HP, ran and hacked and gave my clones and ISK for death just to make the attempt to make the game playable and competative, and was largely ineffective because of the shimmer. I will reiterate. No other role gets completely negated by a mood, not one other. These aren't slayers you are negating, as those largely have ditched the cloak, and most of my fits no longer have them. What you are negating are legitimate roles that shouldn't be limited just because the entire map is dark. So what you're saying is a cloak is the only way to make a viable scout? Scouts can be used in different ways. With use of a cloak, shimmer makes it useless. He didn't say that it's needed 48th Special Operations Force. "As a team or alone, I dominate the battlefield."
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 848	Posted - 2015.02.16 15:47:00 - [29] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Atiim wrote: Cloaks are fine, they make people ridiculously difficult to spot in daylight unless you adjust your TV settings to the point where it will surely reduce it's lifespan. Them being easier to spot in darker areas is what we educated players like to call, a situational weakness. So its perfectly ok that certain roles are entirely null and void just because you got Ashland on a dark map? Bullsh*t. There isn't a single map that is entirely open with no walls or structures that would negate heavies. No map that completely negates all tank and vehicle usage. No map or setting that completely negates Logi usage. No map that prevents Assaults from assaulting. Just the other day, my team was getting stomped on Ashland on a dark map. I pulled out my hacking scout, which is 200 HP, ran and hacked and gave my clones and ISK for death just to make the attempt to make the game playable and competative, and was largely ineffective because of the shimmer. I will reiterate. No other role gets completely negated by a mood, not one other. These aren't slayers you are negating, as those largely have ditched the cloak, and most of my fits no longer have them. What you are negating are legitimate roles that shouldn't be limited just because the entire map is dark. Try flying an ADS on a manus peak domintation. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Vesta Opalus T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 429	Posted - 2015.02.16 18:11:00 - [30] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Vesta Opalus wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: CCP-you HAVE to make them more invisible. I am playing RIGHT now and have died 5 times just running through a field. 3 people shooting me. Any can see cloaks running in most maps. There is really.... No point in them. I am running around people and most can see me. " how do you know they can?" Well, I have 3 enhanced kincats on a gal scout, running as fast as il they can take me. I can hear at least 5 different weapons either hit me or fly by me. I am NOT in range of scanners and I am well over 130m away from closest enemies. Shots start to wiz by. What's the point of cloaks now? Make them harder to see by toning down the color of them. Make them more "invisible". This will also help with spawn camping. By the way, what's up with warlords? My PS3 is freezing now and I just got a "fatal error-quit game" message. Stop trying to run across open fields with three people sitting there waiting on you? Its not there to make you invisible, its there to make you LESS visible. The whole map was an open field. Whats your point? You seem to think that the cloak should give you immunity to people seeing you, but that was never its intent. The point is to make you less noticeable, which it is very good at. Things cloaks do: Makes you hard to shoot consistently while moving (weapon flash/kick will make staying on a moving target much harder if they are cloaked) Makes you much more likely to be ignored if someone is engaged in doing something else (i.e. shooting at one of your teamates) Makes you much more likely to not be seen if you are flanking at a medium/long distance Makes you (specifically you, Lightning35 Delta514) think you are supposed to be able to run across an open field while 3 people are on the other side of it not doing anything but watching that open field. Things cloaks do not do: Make you invisible so you can run across an open field while 3 people are on the other side of it not doing anything but watching that open field. Make you able to run around right in front of people without being noticed. Make you entirely invisible. P.S. there is no map that is entirely made up of open field, with the debatable exception of some areas of manus peak ambush, which has plenty of cover and folds in the terrain to hide your movement, so even then you are full of it.

Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 184	Posted - 2015.02.16 18:21:00 - [31] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Vesta Opalus wrote: [quote=Lightning35 Delta514]CCP-you HAVE to make them more invisible. I am playing RIGHT now and have died 5 times just running through a field. 3 people shooting me. Any can see cloaks running in most maps. There is really.... No point in them. I am running around people and most can see me. " how do you know they can?" Well, I have 3 enhanced kincats on a gal scout, running as fast as il they can take me. I can hear at least 5 different weapons either hit me or fly by me. I am NOT in range of scanners and I am well over 130m away from closest enemies. Shots start to wiz by. What's the point of cloaks now? Make them harder to see by toning down the color of them. Make them more "invisible". This will also help with spawn camping. By the way, what's up with warlords? My PS3 is freezing now and I just got a "fatal error-quit game" message. Stop trying to run across open fields with three people sitting there waiting on you? Its not there to make you invisible, its there to make you LESS visible. The whole map was an open field. Whats your point? You seem to think that the cloak should give you immunity to people seeing you, but that was never its intent. The point is to make you less noticeable, which it is very good at. Things cloaks do: Makes you hard to shoot consistently while moving (weapon flash/kick will make staying on a moving target much harder if they are cloaked) Makes you much more likely to be ignored if someone is engaged in doing something else (i.e. shooting at one of your teamates) Makes you much more likely to not be seen if you are flanking at a medium/long distance Makes you (specifically you, Lightning35 Delta514) think you are supposed to be able to run across an open field while 3 people are on the other side of it not doing anything but watching that open field. Things cloaks do not do: Make you invisible so you can run across an open field while 3 people are on the other side of it not doing anything but watching that open field. Make you able to run around right in front of people without being noticed. Make you entirely invisible. P.S. there is no map that is entirely made up of open field, with the debatable exception of some areas of manus peak ambush, which has plenty of cover and folds in the terrain to hide your movement, so even then you are full of it.[/quote You stated they should make you hard to see and that's where it's failing. ANYONE CAN SEE ME and I can spot cloaks easily. 48th Special Operations Force. "As a team or alone, I dominate the battlefield."
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2497	Posted - 2015.02.16 18:36:00 - [32] - Quote There was always two ways(maybe more if we think about it a little bit) to make the cloak: As a tactical repositioning tool or as a ganking tool. CCP chose to make it a ganking tool. Repositioning Cloak: Hardest to see when moving, easiest to see when stationary(we can easily exploit-proof 'stationary'). Made for flanking, uplinking, and breaking out of a camped redline. Ganking Cloak Hardest to see when stationary, easiest to see when moving. Made for camping. Imo, we'd have much more interesting matches with Repositioning Cloaks. PSN: RationalSpark
Finn Colman Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 146	Posted - 2015.02.16 18:56:00 - [33] - Quote Personally, I see a lot of cloaks when I'm looking out for them, and very few otherwise. The cloak is a good way to avoid a firefight-in-progress, and a decent tool to sneak past an area that is lightly guarded. I've had a good few cloaks that I shoot at who tend to get away due to my muzzle flare obscuring them even further. Jack-of-most-trades, master of one.
Vesta Opalus T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 430	Posted - 2015.02.16 19:01:00 - [34] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Vesta Opalus wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Vesta Opalus wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: CCP-you HAVE to make them more invisible. I am playing RIGHT now and have died 5 times just running through a field. 3 people shooting me. Any can see cloaks running in most maps. There is really.... No point in them. I am running around people and most can see me. " how do you know they can?" Well, I have 3 enhanced kincats on a gal scout, running as fast as il they can take me. I can hear at least 5 different weapons either hit me or fly by me. I am NOT in range of scanners and I am well over 130m away from closest enemies. Shots start to wiz by. What's the point of cloaks now? Make them harder to see by toning down the color of them. Make them more "invisible". This will also help with spawn camping. By the way, what's up with warlords? My PS3 is freezing now and I just got a "fatal error-quit game" message. Stop trying to run across open fields with three people sitting there waiting on you? Its not there to make you invisible, its there to make you LESS visible. The whole map was an open field. Whats your point? You seem to think that the cloak should give you immunity to people seeing you, but that was never its intent. The point is to make you less noticeable, which it is very good at. Things cloaks do: Makes you hard to shoot consistently while moving (weapon flash/kick will make staying on a moving target much harder if they are cloaked) Makes you much more likely to be ignored if someone is engaged in doing something else (i.e. shooting at one of your teamates) Makes you much more likely to not be seen if you are flanking at a medium/long distance Makes you (specifically you, Lightning35 Delta514) think you are supposed to be able to run across an open field while 3 people are on the other side of it not doing anything but watching that open field. Things cloaks do not do: Make you invisible so you can run across an open field while 3 people are on the other side of it not doing anything but watching that open field. Make you able to run around right in front of people without being noticed. Make you entirely invisible. P.S. there is no map that is entirely made up of open field, with the debatable exception of some areas of manus peak ambush, which has plenty of cover and folds in the terrain to hide your movement, so even then you are full of it. You stated they should make you hard to see and that's where it's failing. ANYONE CAN SEE ME and I can spot cloaks easily. Anyone can see you except for the people who dont, you can spot cloaks easily except for the ones you dont spot. Confirmation bias is just taking you over right now and its sad. I use cloaks on 2 of my fits and I never have problems with it, because Im not using it to charge into a bunch of peoples frontal vision cone like an idiot.
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 184	Posted - 2015.02.16 19:14:00 - [35] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: There was always two ways(maybe more if we think about it a little bit) to make the cloak: As a tactical repositioning tool or as a ganking tool. CCP chose to make it a ganking tool. Repositioning Cloak: Hardest to see when moving, easiest to see when stationary(we can easily exploit-proof 'stationary'). Made for flanking, uplinking, and breaking out of a camped redline. Ganking Cloak Hardest to see when stationary, easiest to see when moving. Made for camping. Imo, we'd have much more interesting matches with Repositioning Cloaks. That would be much better. The shimmer is to high on current cloaks. 48th Special Operations Force. "As a team or alone, I dominate the battlefield."


Pages: 1 2 :: [one page]

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online/DUST514, the EVE/DUST514 logo, EVE/DUST514 and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to OMG Labs to use EVE Online/DUST514 and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, OMG Labs. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.