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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:43:00 -
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seriously. that thing is like a pocket thales
i cant even run logi near any red dot with a bolt pistol without getting one-shot
you know you've been playing dust too long when you can remember the last valentines day sale
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DarthJT5
Random Gunz RISE of LEGION
267
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:44:00 -
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Nice name. Other than that, I think the bolt pistol mini sniper thing is intended.
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
471
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:46:00 -
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DarthJT5 wrote:Nice name. Other than that, I think the bolt pistol mini sniper thing is intended.
and i want to be paid reparations by anyone who has killed me with one
you know you've been playing dust too long when you can remember the last valentines day sale
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
682
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:48:00 -
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Well, the Aim Assist on it is kinda strong. Its easier to headshot during hip fire than aim down sights.
But when used as intended and aimed down sights its damn hard to use. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7181
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Posted - 2015.02.14 00:47:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:DarthJT5 wrote:Nice name. Other than that, I think the bolt pistol mini sniper thing is intended. and i want to be paid reparations by anyone who has killed me with one I would...
But I'd really rather point and laugh.
Laughter is the best payment.
AV
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2015.02.14 01:04:00 -
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And?
The Ion Pistol is like a Pocket Shotgun, being able to kill anything but a super-brick heavy with quickly and with ease in CQC provided that you can aim with it, the Scrambler Pistol is like a Pocket Scrambler Rifle since a headshot will OHK anything besides a super-brick heavy, and the Flaylock Pistol is like a Pocket Mass Driver as it fires explosives in an arc.
All of those (except maybe the FLP) can and do kill enemies faster than the Bolt Pistol, and yet you decided to complain about the BP? Not sure if I should laugh or cry.
The 1st Matari Commando
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Zindorak
Nyain Chan
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Posted - 2015.02.14 04:30:00 -
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1k isk Bolt Pistol > 140k isk EWAR Gal scout I hate the stupid scrubby BP bs its a sniper which u can no scope
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Give me da iskiez
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DRT 99
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
101
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Posted - 2015.02.14 05:45:00 -
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garbage damage per clip.
yeah you can maybe make someone trip at 60m.
other pistols can atleast make people fall over (from not laughter!) at close range.
slso the 1k isk bolt pistol > 140k isk scout argument can be said about the HMG as well - BP is just less reliable. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7184
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Posted - 2015.02.14 08:09:00 -
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And the militia one is hilarious.
But it can take up to three shots to kill a scout becuse I use no damage mods for it.
And have invested no SP.
AV
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Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
8715
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Posted - 2015.02.14 20:57:00 -
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Atiim wrote:And?
The Ion Pistol is like a Pocket Shotgun, being able to kill anything but a super-brick heavy with quickly and with ease in CQC provided that you can aim with it, the Scrambler Pistol is like a Pocket Scrambler Rifle since a headshot will OHK anything besides a super-brick heavy, and the Flaylock Pistol is like a Pocket Mass Driver as it fires explosives in an arc.
All of those (except maybe the FLP) can and do kill enemies faster than the Bolt Pistol, and yet you decided to complain about the BP? Not sure if I should laugh or cry.
Did y- hang on
I'm trying to get the words out but... I just can't stop
A POCKET SHOTGUN?! That's the best Dust 514 joke I've ever heard. Dude, I can't even hate you for your terrible feedback anymore, now I know it's all just a comedy act. Have you ever used the Ion Pistol?! A shotgun can actually -hit- what you point it at and doesn't try to get you killed in the eventuality that you miss xD
One does not simply "aim with it", you have to pray to the Heathen Gods that they'll guide the freaggin round on target or you spend the next two seconds waving it around like a flaming baton, unable to do jack while the enemy laughs at you for being an idiot and running the Ion Pistol in the first place. The only people who run the Ion Pistol are Gallente-Loyalist role-players like Sgt Kirk and Cat Merc who try to make it work and they only do it because it's the only Gallente sidearm available, despite openly admitting that it's probably the worst weapon in the game just -because- it's so terrible.
A pocket shotgun, , it's charged shot does about as much damage as the Bolt Pistol does dumb-fire; the key difference here is that you have heat management to deal with which is about as unforgiving as sleeping on a cheese grater and the seize happens -EVERY. FREAGGIN. TIME. YOU CHARGE SHOT.- Sometimes it'll overheat and seize up without even firing a round just because you were stupid enough to run an Ion Pistol.
And you know what's even more hilarious? The fact that for the duration of this seize, the only thing you can do is look at your enemy and hope to god he counters you so hard your nipples pop off like champagne corks instead of giving you the false sense of hope that you might win that little encounter.
A "pocket shotgun", good lord I've never heard a worst description for a paper weight.
Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department?
Founder of AIV
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Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
15159
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Posted - 2015.02.14 21:13:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:A "pocket shotgun", good lord I've never heard a worst description for a paper weight. A better name would be hair dryer. Because it looks like one and sounds like one while charged.
Also just as effective at killing people.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7196
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Posted - 2015.02.14 21:25:00 -
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No Atiim's right you're just using the Ion pistol wrong, the proper method is to charge it and kiss the barrel as you fire.
Far more effective.
AV
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Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
15159
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Posted - 2015.02.14 21:43:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:No Atiim's right you're just using the Ion pistol wrong, the proper method is to charge it and kiss tip of the barrel as you fire.
Far more effective. Make sure to release the charge at the same time. For a quicker and more efficient death that saves your enemy the trouble
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
9579
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Posted - 2015.02.14 21:45:00 -
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Only problem with the bolt pistol is the bullet magnetism on that thing.
Aiming is not required for that gun
~New Eden's #1 Gallente Arm's Dealer
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Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
15159
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Posted - 2015.02.14 21:47:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Only problem with the bolt pistol is the bullet magnetism on that thing.
Aiming is not required for that gun With the IoP even if you aim perfectly, it will still miss
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Jason1 Black
FACTION WARFARE ARMY FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
1
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Posted - 2015.02.14 22:01:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:seriously. that thing is like a pocket thales
i cant even run logi near any red dot with a bolt pistol without getting one-shot Just because you get killed a few times by something doesnt mean it should be nerfed to please you. I swear half the, thats why people complain. Whiners |
Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
1020
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Posted - 2015.02.14 22:07:00 -
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The BP is too powerful.
I see more and more Shotgun scouts equipping the BP just for the cheer reason that they can still instagank that enemy that got away from their Shotgun's range.
In no way that carrying around 2 weapons that can insta gank enemy at will.
The BP was fine before this buff. It just needed a hit detetction fix. But CCP made it a 2 shot death gun that has range, bullet magnetism PLUS Aim Assist.
The thing is too powerful. Especially at the hands of HMG heavies and Shotgun scouts. No escape from them.
Changes to Damage mods!
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1527
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Posted - 2015.02.14 22:18:00 -
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I'd like to know the stats on it because its seems to be to be overperforming to me.
Because, that's why.
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Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
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Posted - 2015.02.14 23:19:00 -
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You know what I want? An Assault Rifle without the stock, turned into a Gallentean SMG.
No charge-up/heat/gameplay gimmicks that force it into a freaggin skill-shot weapon like all the other Gallentean BS, just a straight up high-damage SMG that makes people think twice before getting within 20m.
Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department?
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.02.14 23:49:00 -
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Atiim wrote: The Ion Pistol is like a Pocket Shotgun, being able to kill anything but a super-brick heavy with quickly and with ease in CQC provided that you can aim with it
Have you ever actually used the ion pistol?
How, exactly, is it a pocket shotgun? Do you refer to the charge shot? If you do, note that the bolt pistol essentially performs the same function, except with half the charge time, no cooldown time, twice the range, higher accuracy, and a massive headshot multiplier.
Quote: All of those (except maybe the FLP) can and do kill enemies faster than the Bolt Pistol, and yet you decided to complain about the BP? Not sure if I should laugh or cry.
No, they don't.
A properly used bolt pistol will vastly outDPS any other sidearm apart from the scrambler pistol.
moobius 2013 never forget
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maluble
Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance
200
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Posted - 2015.02.15 01:01:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote:Well, the Aim Assist on it is kinda strong. Its easier to headshot during hip fire than aim down sights.
But when used as intended and aimed down sights its damn hard to use.
No its not hard to use, i have 0 sp into it and i mop people up with the militia varient. |
gustavo acosta
Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention
925
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Posted - 2015.02.15 01:17:00 -
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maluble wrote:Imp Smash wrote:Well, the Aim Assist on it is kinda strong. Its easier to headshot during hip fire than aim down sights.
But when used as intended and aimed down sights its damn hard to use. No its not hard to use, i have 0 sp into it and i mop people up with the militia varient. Anyone can say that about any gun, but yeah the bolt pistol could be OP...
GimmeDatSuhWeet isk
We found a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank, all hail pope redblood the 6th
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
301
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Posted - 2015.02.15 02:20:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote:Well, the Aim Assist on it is kinda strong. Its easier to headshot during hip fire than aim down sights.
But when used as intended and aimed down sights its damn hard to use. Oh **** that's why it hasn't been working for me I've been trying to use it like an actual gun
Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7204
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Posted - 2015.02.15 03:57:00 -
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Slave of MORTE wrote:Imp Smash wrote:Well, the Aim Assist on it is kinda strong. Its easier to headshot during hip fire than aim down sights.
But when used as intended and aimed down sights its damn hard to use. Oh **** that's why it hasn't been working for me I've been trying to use it like an actual gun
yeah the way Aim down sights is almost universally inferior to hipfire because of the way AA works irritates the crap out of me.
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Starlight Burner
ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance
130
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Posted - 2015.02.15 10:25:00 -
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I say keep damage but the magazine should be 1 or 2 bullets to counter the 'damage per clip'.
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Rogue Relics is my home away from home.
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GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
85
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Posted - 2015.02.15 11:04:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:seriously. that thing is like a pocket thales
i cant even run logi near any red dot with a bolt pistol without getting one-shot
No, it's the only thing the Caldari have that works.
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tritan abbattere
DBAG CORE
46
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Posted - 2015.02.15 17:41:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:seriously. that thing is like a pocket thales
i cant even run logi near any red dot with a bolt pistol without getting one-shot
Well the bolt and any other side arm has the same DPS potential as primary weapon in DPS. only downside is range. I think this should be corrected as a primary should always out DPS a sidearm. The bolt pistol is complained about the most because of its high alpha. so you get shot up by a primary a lot then BP you with 1 follow up shot. The BP may need a less damage per shot but i think all side arms need a nerf. They should not act as primaries.
But theirs also the argument that High alpha weapons should have less DPS this Includes all weapons. I think the max potential for a basic BP is 550 DPS minus How Fast you pull the trigger. So it can equal a primary with high alpha is not good. The scrambler rifle has A choice of High alpha or High DPS because of heat build up unless you put it on a assault. Even still you lose some DPS potential if you do a full charged shot. The sniper follows this rule of only having 220 DPS so you have to rely on head shots.
That is my input on this.
I am the all mighty Tritan. Fear me for I am a MassHole
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.02.15 19:49:00 -
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Slave of MORTE wrote:Imp Smash wrote:Well, the Aim Assist on it is kinda strong. Its easier to headshot during hip fire than aim down sights.
But when used as intended and aimed down sights its damn hard to use. Oh **** that's why it hasn't been working for me I've been trying to use it like an actual gun No it's not aim assist, it's bullet magnetism. You're just bad with it. |
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