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Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
475
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Posted - 2015.02.11 14:53:00 -
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Hello everyone, this is a Public Service Announcement.
Are you afraid of scam? Are you unsure how to sell anything on the market when it opens up? You want to sell your goods at the best price?
We have the solution.
- Simple Trading Union makes simple trading...simpler! We have a network of trusted buyers and trusted sellers thanks to which we can always sell / buy at the best price. We'll also update our Database of trusted buyers/sellers, so that we will always avoid blacklisted/scammers. Just tell us what you need, we'll provide you the quantity and the pricelist.
- Simple Trading Union makes simple trading...smarter! We offer an insurance service ( 100% payback ), so that you can trade freely without worrying about losing your money or your goods.
- Simple Trading Union makes simple trading...convenient! We offer interests-free loans to our best, trusted sellers and buyers, repayable from 1 day to max 1 week.
What are you waiting for, then? As soon as simple trading become accessible, contact us for more infos!
* Our services will not be available for newly created character, we deduct 10% from sell value for insurance services *
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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Vektus Alvoraan
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
59
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Posted - 2015.02.11 14:58:00 -
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God knows how much we need this in our lives. =ƒÿü
DUST 514 Closed Beta Vet - Humble logibro, at your service.
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LT SHANKS
You In The Nutz
5087
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Posted - 2015.02.11 15:14:00 -
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Give me a loan for 100 mil. My credit score is in the 700s so you know I'm good for it. |
Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
477
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Posted - 2015.02.11 15:17:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:Give me a loan for 100 mil. My credit score is in the 700s so you know I'm good for it.
Sorry, we'll need at least 2-4 weeks to build our database, the loan service will not be available until then.
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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John ShepardIII
Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention
1285
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Posted - 2015.02.11 15:33:00 -
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CCP just needs to do the trading system like Warframe It's impossible to scam
The True Shepard
Rampage GOML
Have No Fear. John Shepard Is Here!
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
11000
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Posted - 2015.02.11 15:39:00 -
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Behold, the anatomy of a Jita trade scam.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
477
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Posted - 2015.02.11 15:40:00 -
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John ShepardIII wrote:CCP just needs to do the trading system like Warframe It's impossible to scam
Well, now you have a way to avoid scammers, just contact us or join our pub channel and we'll take care of anything else. You can sell directly to us (we'll pay more than the sell rate) or use the same transaction system. It's safe, guaranteed.
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
477
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Posted - 2015.02.11 15:42:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Behold, the anatomy of a Jita trade scam.
Don't worry, feedbacks will talk for us. I know it sounds like a scam, but as soon as simple trading comes out, you'll change your mind. After all, it's not a free service, we still charge 10% on transactions.
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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Pagl1u M
Dead Man's Game RUST415
1503
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Posted - 2015.02.11 16:23:00 -
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Thank god someone is solving CCP's lack of skill on making a working player to player market. +1
One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
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Lavallois Nash
Federal Transfers and Trades
483
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Posted - 2015.02.11 16:48:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Behold, the anatomy of a Jita trade scam.
A brokerage company pulling petty blatant scams is the equivalent to stealing the change from the "take a penny, leave a penny" when you could just buy the store and make money on volume.
In this market, the highest value thing one can offer is guaranteed trust and reliability. Sourcing product is not a big deal, all players get salvage. Counting on people to move it profitably and reliably, thats the marketable product that has to be created out of hard work.
@ Freccia whats the pub channel? |
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Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
486
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Posted - 2015.02.11 16:52:00 -
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Lavallois Nash wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Behold, the anatomy of a Jita trade scam. A brokerage company pulling petty blatant scams is the equivalent to stealing the change from the "take a penny, leave a penny" when you could just buy the store and make money on volume. In this market, the highest value thing one can offer is guaranteed trust and reliability. Sourcing product is not a big deal, all players get salvage. Counting on people to move it profitably and reliably, thats the marketable product that has to be created out of hard work. @ Freccia whats the pub channel?
it's "Simple Trading" without quotation marks. It's pretty empty right now (just my main in) but I'm pretty confident it will become bigger and bigger.
and +1 because that's actually the philosophy behind the service.
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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JL3Eleven
Ancient Exiles.
2145
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Posted - 2015.02.11 16:54:00 -
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I will offer the same services for only a 5% fee. If this was Ebay my store rating would be 5 stars already with all the sales I've done.
Can I haz ur ISK?
Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
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Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
486
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Posted - 2015.02.11 17:00:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:I will offer the same services for only a 5% fee. If this was Ebay my store rating would be 5 stars already with all the sales I've done.
That's all good! Competition is the salt of life
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
2099
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Posted - 2015.02.11 17:03:00 -
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There are a few common scam keywords to listen for. Reassuring words. Words like Safe and Trusted. If they say these words, particularly with repetition, it means they are going to kill you.
Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty hipster!
[RYJC]
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Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
486
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Posted - 2015.02.11 17:05:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:There are a few common scam keywords to listen for. Reassuring words. Words like Safe and Trusted. If they say these words, particularly with repetition, it means they are going to kill you.
As I have already said, reputation is our biggest concern. If you can't trust someone, you won't buy his things. We will make special offers during the first week of simple trading. You can try it out and check yourself.
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Back and Forth
7179
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Posted - 2015.02.11 17:07:00 -
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Prep for competition. ;)
CBM
EVE, Dust & Corp Services
Buying Dead & Inactive Corps
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jhon hartigan
Dead Man's Game RUST415
429
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Posted - 2015.02.11 17:08:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:There are a few common scam keywords to listen for. Reassuring words. Words like Safe and Trusted. If they say these words, particularly with repetition, it means they are going to kill you. Why should someone scam you for...idk...10 million isk, when he can create a market worth billions of isk? Someone is trying to help the community and everyone is ready to call it scam without even thinking how stupid a scam like this would be... |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2672
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Posted - 2015.02.11 17:08:00 -
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John ShepardIII wrote:CCP just needs to do the trading system like Warframe It's impossible to scam
And where would be the fun with that?
Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
2099
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Posted - 2015.02.11 17:13:00 -
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Freccia di Lybra wrote: As I have already said, reputation is our biggest concern. If you can't trust someone, you won't buy his things. We will make special offers during the first week of simple trading. You can try it out and check yourself.
jhon hartigan wrote: Why should someone scam you for...idk...10 million isk, when he can create a market worth billions of isk? Someone is trying to help the community and everyone is ready to call it scam without even thinking how stupid a scam like this would be...
Joke + movie reference.
Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty hipster!
[RYJC]
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Back and Forth
7180
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Posted - 2015.02.11 17:17:00 -
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jhon hartigan wrote:Thumb Green wrote:There are a few common scam keywords to listen for. Reassuring words. Words like Safe and Trusted. If they say these words, particularly with repetition, it means they are going to kill you. Why should someone scam you for...idk...10 million isk, when he can create a market worth billions of isk? Someone is trying to help the community and everyone is ready to call it scam without even thinking how stupid a scam like this would be... One could gain reputation of small sales and make a profit of 2 and 5mil here and there, then when someone is trading and item that costs billions they take off with both item and billions of ISK. work for a year to make a billion or build a rep for a month and then make billions by taking off with people's item and isk on big trade.
CBM
EVE, Dust & Corp Services
Buying Dead & Inactive Corps
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Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
486
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Posted - 2015.02.11 17:22:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:jhon hartigan wrote:Thumb Green wrote:There are a few common scam keywords to listen for. Reassuring words. Words like Safe and Trusted. If they say these words, particularly with repetition, it means they are going to kill you. Why should someone scam you for...idk...10 million isk, when he can create a market worth billions of isk? Someone is trying to help the community and everyone is ready to call it scam without even thinking how stupid a scam like this would be... One could gain reputation of small sales and make a profit of 2 and 5mil here and there, then when someone is trading and item that costs billions they take off with both item and billions of ISK. work for a year to make a 1 billion or build a rep for a month and then make 2-4 billion by taking off with people's item and isk on big trade. Work for a year legitimately for a year to make 1bil or hit a big scam and make 2-4 bil for a month of work.
That's actually the Ponzi system, everyone knows. It will mean that people will never commit us a transaction worth billions of isks. It's not a problem at all, that's not our goal. Nor we'll scam anyone of our customers.
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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jhon hartigan
Dead Man's Game RUST415
430
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Posted - 2015.02.11 17:26:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:jhon hartigan wrote:Thumb Green wrote:There are a few common scam keywords to listen for. Reassuring words. Words like Safe and Trusted. If they say these words, particularly with repetition, it means they are going to kill you. Why should someone scam you for...idk...10 million isk, when he can create a market worth billions of isk? Someone is trying to help the community and everyone is ready to call it scam without even thinking how stupid a scam like this would be... One could gain reputation of small sales and make a profit of 2 and 5mil here and there, then when someone is trading and item that costs billions they take off with both item and billions of ISK. work for a year to make a 1 billion or build a rep for a month and then make 2-4 billion by taking off with people's item and isk on big trade. Work for a year legitimately for a year to make 1bil or hit a big scam and make 2-4 bil for a month of work. To me it looks like it will be based on little trade with a lot of player, so your system of scanning wouldnt work. Who ever would make a trade worth billions of isk? What does cost billions of isk?
Maybe the OP could make a rule like: trades bigger than, say, 50 millions isk are not accepted. They are accepted in multiple little trades. So if you have to pay 300 million isks for stuffs...You pay 50 million and receive 50 millions worth of stuffs, than you pay again and receive agai, and again and again...6 times. Fixed. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Back and Forth
7182
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Posted - 2015.02.11 17:31:00 -
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jhon hartigan wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:jhon hartigan wrote:Thumb Green wrote:There are a few common scam keywords to listen for. Reassuring words. Words like Safe and Trusted. If they say these words, particularly with repetition, it means they are going to kill you. Why should someone scam you for...idk...10 million isk, when he can create a market worth billions of isk? Someone is trying to help the community and everyone is ready to call it scam without even thinking how stupid a scam like this would be... One could gain reputation of small sales and make a profit of 2 and 5mil here and there, then when someone is trading and item that costs billions they take off with both item and billions of ISK. work for a year to make a 1 billion or build a rep for a month and then make 2-4 billion by taking off with people's item and isk on big trade. Work for a year legitimately for a year to make 1bil or hit a big scam and make 2-4 bil for a month of work. To me it looks like it will be based on little trade with a lot of player, so your system of scanning wouldnt work. Who ever would make a trade worth billions of isk? What does cost billions of isk? Maybe the OP could make a rule like: trades bigger than, say, 50 millions isk are not accepted. They are accepted in multiple little trades. So if you have to pay 300 million isks for stuffs...You pay 50 million and receive 50 millions worth of stuffs, than you pay again and receive agai, and again and again...6 times. Fixed. Angel Cartel Saga Master Recruiter Cal Ass BPO
both could go for a billion if not more.
CBM
EVE, Dust & Corp Services
Buying Dead & Inactive Corps
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JL3Eleven
Ancient Exiles.
2147
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Posted - 2015.02.11 17:36:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:jhon hartigan wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:jhon hartigan wrote:Thumb Green wrote:There are a few common scam keywords to listen for. Reassuring words. Words like Safe and Trusted. If they say these words, particularly with repetition, it means they are going to kill you. Why should someone scam you for...idk...10 million isk, when he can create a market worth billions of isk? Someone is trying to help the community and everyone is ready to call it scam without even thinking how stupid a scam like this would be... One could gain reputation of small sales and make a profit of 2 and 5mil here and there, then when someone is trading and item that costs billions they take off with both item and billions of ISK. work for a year to make a 1 billion or build a rep for a month and then make 2-4 billion by taking off with people's item and isk on big trade. Work for a year legitimately for a year to make 1bil or hit a big scam and make 2-4 bil for a month of work. To me it looks like it will be based on little trade with a lot of player, so your system of scanning wouldnt work. Who ever would make a trade worth billions of isk? What does cost billions of isk? Maybe the OP could make a rule like: trades bigger than, say, 50 millions isk are not accepted. They are accepted in multiple little trades. So if you have to pay 300 million isks for stuffs...You pay 50 million and receive 50 millions worth of stuffs, than you pay again and receive agai, and again and again...6 times. Fixed. Angel Cartel Saga Master Recruiter Cal Ass BPO both could go for a billion if not more.
Please add Daemon Shotgun BPO.
Can I haz ur ISK?
Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
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Lavallois Nash
Federal Transfers and Trades
483
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Posted - 2015.02.11 17:51:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Angel Cartel Saga Master Recruiter Cal Ass BPO
both could go for a billion if not more.
Whats the likelyhood hood though of someone with something like that to sell just finding a random person in the chat to buy it and then at random asking for a middleman service? A trade of that caliber would have been arranged over time through various channels. Its not going to be a startup corporation that handles a trade like that. Its going to be a corp with a multi billion wallet who puts up a % of the cost up front and the rest upon delivery.
Scale it down a little and think from the bottom up instead of from the top down. You make ISK, like you said, by doing small trades and such. As you make profit, you develop a investment fund. And then, when you see someone looking to sell, trade, or buy a BPO, nevermind being the middleman, you have enough ISK or inventory to handle the transaction yourself.
Is there a chance that at the top of the scale, there will be a middleman entrusted with a billion ISK trade who burns both parties? Its very possible. But its not the kind of thing thats going to be happening every hour. I think its going to take more than 1-2 months of reputation for 2 random people to be like "Here, hold my rarest item in the game till he gives you my billion....."here, take my billion and hold it till he gives you the rarest item in the game". |
Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
486
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Posted - 2015.02.11 18:00:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote: Please add Daemon Shotgun BPO.
I have one...and trust me it's not worth billion of isks. Will sell one for maybe 5-6 millions.
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
486
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Posted - 2015.02.11 18:11:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Angel Cartel Saga Master Recruiter Cal Ass BPO
both could go for a billion if not more.
True that, but you probably won't be selling those that easy. What would happen if I scam a couple billions isk? I lose my credibility, therefor I'll lose all the customers.
Hundreds of little, constant transaction are better than a huge one-time-only scam. It's always more convenient being honest, that's what I think.
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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JL3Eleven
Ancient Exiles.
2149
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Posted - 2015.02.11 18:22:00 -
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Freccia di Lybra wrote:JL3Eleven wrote: Please add Daemon Shotgun BPO.
I have one...and trust me it's not worth billion of isks. Will sell one for maybe 5-6 millions.
Tell you what I'll pay double if you reserve it for me.
Can I haz ur ISK?
Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
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Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
488
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Posted - 2015.02.11 18:25:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:Freccia di Lybra wrote:JL3Eleven wrote: Please add Daemon Shotgun BPO.
I have one...and trust me it's not worth billion of isks. Will sell one for maybe 5-6 millions. Tell you what I'll pay double if you reserve it for me. Deal.
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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JL3Eleven
Ancient Exiles.
2149
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Posted - 2015.02.11 18:27:00 -
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Freccia di Lybra wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Freccia di Lybra wrote:JL3Eleven wrote: Please add Daemon Shotgun BPO.
I have one...and trust me it's not worth billion of isks. Will sell one for maybe 5-6 millions. Tell you what I'll pay double if you reserve it for me. Deal.
Deal. Message me in game, maybe we have other stuff to trade/sell.
Can I haz ur ISK?
Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
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Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
489
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Posted - 2015.02.11 18:38:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:Freccia di Lybra wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Freccia di Lybra wrote:JL3Eleven wrote: Please add Daemon Shotgun BPO.
I have one...and trust me it's not worth billion of isks. Will sell one for maybe 5-6 millions. Tell you what I'll pay double if you reserve it for me. Deal. Deal. Message me in game, maybe we have other stuff to trade/sell.
Mail sent. I'll have a special eye for you, considering you're the first customer.
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4018
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Posted - 2015.02.11 18:42:00 -
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Borderland style trading would be better imo.
Some have luck, some have money, trading is not a crime.
Minmatar omni-merc
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Balistyc Farshot
The Exemplars RISE of LEGION
62
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Posted - 2015.02.11 18:55:00 -
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All you people yelling scam read the first post Ratiti mentioned I put a list for preventing scams. Just add in how you would handle not being a tool and losing out. He is doing the thing I recommended, make a corp who's whole existence is based on these trades. I bet this guys isn't a great fighter but a master merchant. Let him do his magic.
Freccia - I would recommend a first trade month is at 2% to hook them on your service (First ****** hit is free guys!). Also you will need to get employees aka, corp mates to help with this. You will need them to be trust worthy, so, good luck. No one understands the headache you are brining on yourself for isk which I have more of than I could spend. (I don't proto stomp pubs) Freccia, make a thread for your corp's reputation. Beware it sounds like people will bash you to start and without anything but your word on the table, good luck again!
BTW - No, I don't want to join you corp. People like me will go inside my corp and trade officer weapons which is what this function was meant to do.
Heavy with a massive bullet hose called Lola (Burst HMG).
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JL3Eleven
Ancient Exiles.
2149
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Posted - 2015.02.11 18:58:00 -
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Freccia di Lybra wrote:Mail sent. I'll have a special eye for you, considering you're the first customer.
Reply sent.
Can I haz ur ISK?
Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
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jhon hartigan
Dead Man's Game RUST415
431
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Posted - 2015.02.11 19:37:00 -
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Freccia di Lybra wrote:JL3Eleven wrote: Please add Daemon Shotgun BPO.
I have one...and trust me it's not worth billion of isks. Will sell one for maybe 5-6 millions. If you have a second one or can find it for me I offer you 15 million isks. Deal? |
Obliv
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
41
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Posted - 2015.02.11 19:47:00 -
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Could I work at your bank? I will sweep the floor. |
Timtron Victory
Horizons' Edge
365
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Posted - 2015.02.11 19:52:00 -
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John ShepardIII wrote:CCP just needs to do the trading system like Warframe It's impossible to scam
Tsk Tsk my friend nothing is possible. I pity the fools in the 1950s who said man could not go to space. RATATATA
ISK Weekly Lottery
Proud Christian
Jesus Loves You
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Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
491
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Posted - 2015.02.11 21:04:00 -
[38] - Quote
jhon hartigan wrote:Freccia di Lybra wrote:JL3Eleven wrote: Please add Daemon Shotgun BPO.
I have one...and trust me it's not worth billion of isks. Will sell one for maybe 5-6 millions. If you have a second one or can find it for me I offer you 15 million isks. Deal?
Will let you know soon: I only had one, but will probably buy others.
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
491
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Posted - 2015.02.11 23:36:00 -
[39] - Quote
Le Bump so more can see.
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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Dealer 01
Simple Trading Union
1
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Posted - 2015.02.12 03:33:00 -
[40] - Quote
Balistyc Farshot wrote:All you people yelling scam read the first post Ratiti mentioned I put a list for preventing scams. Just add in how you would handle not being a tool and losing out. He is doing the thing I recommended, make a corp who's whole existence is based on these trades. I bet this guys isn't a great fighter but a master merchant. Let him do his magic.
Freccia - I would recommend a first trade month is at 2% to hook them on your service (First ****** hit is free guys!). Also you will need to get employees aka, corp mates to help with this. You will need them to be trust worthy, so, good luck. No one understands the headache you are brining on yourself for isk which I have more of than I could spend. (I don't proto stomp pubs) Freccia, make a thread for your corp's reputation. Beware it sounds like people will bash you to start and without anything but your word on the table, good luck again!
BTW - No, I don't want to join you corp. People like me will go inside my corp and trade officer weapons which is what this function was meant to do. The players that will join the corp to be the traders are only players that Freccia has 100% trust in. We cant let a person we dont know ruin our reputation scamming customers so that's why we are very strict with who we let in. Our traders will be players that Freccia has known for more than 2 years now.
Also we will build our reputation with time. You know this is not a scam because a) our reputation is the most important thing for us to build our market , b) it is way more profitable for us to create a great market than it would be to scam a couple of players.
Everyone that is trying to make us look like scammers is probably interested in ruining our reputation. |
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JL3Eleven
Ancient Exiles.
2151
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Posted - 2015.02.12 03:45:00 -
[41] - Quote
I am in agreements with Freccia di Lybra to be the first customer once the market opens. I will let everyone know about my experience once it happens. I must say so far everything has been handled first class.
Can I haz ur ISK?
Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
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Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
493
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Posted - 2015.02.12 03:49:00 -
[42] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:I am in agreements with Freccia di Lybra to be the first customer once the market opens. I will let everyone know about my experience once it happens. I must say so far everything has been handled first class.
And just for that I'll give you one more free goodie from my personal assets...and I have plenty of them...and you know what I mean already, don't you?
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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JL3Eleven
Ancient Exiles.
2151
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Posted - 2015.02.12 03:52:00 -
[43] - Quote
Freccia di Lybra wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:I am in agreements with Freccia di Lybra to be the first customer once the market opens. I will let everyone know about my experience once it happens. I must say so far everything has been handled first class. And just for that I'll give you one more free goodie from my personal assets...and I have plenty of them...and you know what I mean already, don't you?
Thanks, I believe I do. Take care of them for me.
Can I haz ur ISK?
Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
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Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
498
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Posted - 2015.02.12 05:24:00 -
[44] - Quote
Balistyc Farshot wrote: I bet this guys isn't a great fighter but a master merchant. Let him do his magic.
That wasn't kind . Let's just say I'm not too much involved anymore..."retired" is a good word to explain the situation.
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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Starlight Burner
ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance
128
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Posted - 2015.02.12 05:27:00 -
[45] - Quote
Y'all have my attention now.
I look forward to dealing business with you.
Thank god for CCP Rattati!!
Rogue Relics is my home away from home.
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Vektus Alvoraan
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
65
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Posted - 2015.02.12 05:29:00 -
[46] - Quote
My interest is at it's peak right now. =ƒÿü7
DUST 514 Closed Beta Vet - Humble logibro, at your service.
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DUST Fiend
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
15712
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Posted - 2015.02.12 10:28:00 -
[47] - Quote
I have virtually no ISK, but I have some officer stuff floating around, and that red caldari assault BPO.
Im only interested in Incubus and Small Proto Railguns, if anyone has extras id be willing to find a fair middle ground once we see what officer gear and said bpo are going for.
No ISK means no fly, no fly means no play, no play means no ISK :(
My YouTube (currently inactive)
Homeless Dropship Enthusiast
"See You Space Cowboy"
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Nirwanda Vaughns
1422
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Posted - 2015.02.12 13:33:00 -
[48] - Quote
Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:jhon hartigan wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:jhon hartigan wrote:Thumb Green wrote:There are a few common scam keywords to listen for. Reassuring words. Words like Safe and Trusted. If they say these words, particularly with repetition, it means they are going to kill you. Why should someone scam you for...idk...10 million isk, when he can create a market worth billions of isk? Someone is trying to help the community and everyone is ready to call it scam without even thinking how stupid a scam like this would be... One could gain reputation of small sales and make a profit of 2 and 5mil here and there, then when someone is trading and item that costs billions they take off with both item and billions of ISK. work for a year to make a 1 billion or build a rep for a month and then make 2-4 billion by taking off with people's item and isk on big trade. Work for a year legitimately for a year to make 1bil or hit a big scam and make 2-4 bil for a month of work. To me it looks like it will be based on little trade with a lot of player, so your system of scanning wouldnt work. Who ever would make a trade worth billions of isk? What does cost billions of isk? Maybe the OP could make a rule like: trades bigger than, say, 50 millions isk are not accepted. They are accepted in multiple little trades. So if you have to pay 300 million isks for stuffs...You pay 50 million and receive 50 millions worth of stuffs, than you pay again and receive agai, and again and again...6 times. Fixed. Angel Cartel Saga Master Recruiter Cal Ass BPO both could go for a billion if not more. you'd have to offer me more than a billion fr the c-II lol
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
proud C-II bpo owner
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Dealer 01
Simple Trading Union
4
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Posted - 2015.02.12 15:31:00 -
[49] - Quote
DUST Fiend wrote:I have virtually no ISK, but I have some officer stuff floating around, and that red caldari assault BPO.
Im only interested in Incubus and Small Proto Railguns, if anyone has extras id be willing to find a fair middle ground once we see what officer gear and said bpo are going for.
No ISK means no fly, no fly means no play, no play means no ISK :( No Isk doesn't mean you are poor. Everything you can sell is a resource for us and we are willing to buy it. Anyway I'll send you a mail later. |
Vektus Alvoraan
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
66
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Posted - 2015.02.12 15:33:00 -
[50] - Quote
Dealer 01 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I have virtually no ISK, but I have some officer stuff floating around, and that red caldari assault BPO.
Im only interested in Incubus and Small Proto Railguns, if anyone has extras id be willing to find a fair middle ground once we see what officer gear and said bpo are going for.
No ISK means no fly, no fly means no play, no play means no ISK :( No Isk doesn't mean you are poor. Everything you can sell is a resource for us and we are willing to buy it. Anyway I'll send you a mail later. How much do you think I could get for the surplus of Snowball Launchers I purchased last Christmas?
DUST 514 Closed Beta Vet - Humble logibro, at your service.
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Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
500
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Posted - 2015.02.12 15:43:00 -
[51] - Quote
Vektus Alvoraan wrote:Dealer 01 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I have virtually no ISK, but I have some officer stuff floating around, and that red caldari assault BPO.
Im only interested in Incubus and Small Proto Railguns, if anyone has extras id be willing to find a fair middle ground once we see what officer gear and said bpo are going for.
No ISK means no fly, no fly means no play, no play means no ISK :( No Isk doesn't mean you are poor. Everything you can sell is a resource for us and we are willing to buy it. Anyway I'll send you a mail later. How much do you think I could get for the surplus of Snowball Launchers I purchased last Christmas?
You could actually get some...Want to trade them?
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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Vektus Alvoraan
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
66
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Posted - 2015.02.12 15:44:00 -
[52] - Quote
Freccia di Lybra wrote:Vektus Alvoraan wrote:Dealer 01 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I have virtually no ISK, but I have some officer stuff floating around, and that red caldari assault BPO.
Im only interested in Incubus and Small Proto Railguns, if anyone has extras id be willing to find a fair middle ground once we see what officer gear and said bpo are going for.
No ISK means no fly, no fly means no play, no play means no ISK :( No Isk doesn't mean you are poor. Everything you can sell is a resource for us and we are willing to buy it. Anyway I'll send you a mail later. How much do you think I could get for the surplus of Snowball Launchers I purchased last Christmas? You could actually get some...Want to trade them? I'd love to trade them for ISK or a surplus of other useful gear.
DUST 514 Closed Beta Vet - Humble logibro, at your service.
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Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
500
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Posted - 2015.02.12 17:40:00 -
[53] - Quote
Vektus Alvoraan wrote:Freccia di Lybra wrote:Vektus Alvoraan wrote:Dealer 01 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I have virtually no ISK, but I have some officer stuff floating around, and that red caldari assault BPO.
Im only interested in Incubus and Small Proto Railguns, if anyone has extras id be willing to find a fair middle ground once we see what officer gear and said bpo are going for.
No ISK means no fly, no fly means no play, no play means no ISK :( No Isk doesn't mean you are poor. Everything you can sell is a resource for us and we are willing to buy it. Anyway I'll send you a mail later. How much do you think I could get for the surplus of Snowball Launchers I purchased last Christmas? You could actually get some...Want to trade them? I'd love to trade them for ISK or a surplus of other useful gear.
I will consider that, but will take a while: let me see a bit how the market evolves, then, I'll make my offer. I'm interested, indeed. It is a good rare piece of weaponry that may be resold later at higher price.
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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Vektus Alvoraan
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
67
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Posted - 2015.02.12 18:51:00 -
[54] - Quote
Very well. Feel free to message me in-game, as I have a few goods that I'm also interesting in selling or trading. I'd also like to join your chat, if it's possible.
Closed Beta Vet - Humble logibro, at your service. - Let's squad up!
32m SP, all-around effective logi. o7
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Dealer 01
Simple Trading Union
4
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Posted - 2015.02.12 19:10:00 -
[55] - Quote
Vektus Alvoraan wrote:Very well. Feel free to message me in-game, as I have a few goods that I'm also interesting in selling or trading. I'd also like to join your chat, if it's possible. Sure, feel free to join our chat: Simple Trading. Everyone that is willing to sell, buy or trade everything is welcomed.
Only thing I want to say is: the chat is free so we can't check who joins it, so you should only trust players from Simple Trading Union when it comes to trading. |
Knee Grow Pot420
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2015.02.12 19:17:00 -
[56] - Quote
Do you have putin sniper spidur for trade? I need insurence for e.t. |
LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
2070
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Posted - 2015.02.12 20:18:00 -
[57] - Quote
Anyone want a snowball launcher BPO?
I don't want it...
Official QuafeGäó Advocate
Anti-FoTM Prof. V
Forum Scavenger Prof. V
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Lavallois Nash
Federal Transfers and Trades
489
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Posted - 2015.02.12 21:40:00 -
[58] - Quote
Dealer 01 wrote: The players that will join the corp to be the traders are only players that Freccia has 100% trust in. We cant let a person we dont know ruin our reputation scamming customers so that's why we are very strict with who we let in. Our traders will be players that Freccia has known for more than 2 years now.
I think thats going to be the biggest problem in this industry. When it comes to regular fighting corps, even they have problems with the accountant or director emptying the wallet and running.
All it takes is for one moment of greed from one employee, either during a trade sell or buy, and the company name is scrapped.
Dealer 01 wrote:so you should only trust players from Simple Trading Union when it comes to trading.
I wouldn't say only. There is room for competition, but not room for a monopoly. You should say "Your best chance of a good trade, is with someone from the Simple Trading Union. |
Helghus Resther
Heisen Republic
90
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Posted - 2015.02.12 22:01:00 -
[59] - Quote
Pagl1u M wrote:Thank god someone is solving CCP's lack of skill on making a working player to player market. +1
Though, isn't it CCP's idea to set down the foundation and let the players build it up?
The winner of this war will not prove who's right; only, who's left.
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Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
503
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Posted - 2015.02.13 03:12:00 -
[60] - Quote
Lavallois Nash wrote: I think thats going to be the biggest problem in this industry. When it comes to regular fighting corps, even they have problems with the accountant or director emptying the wallet and running.
All it takes is for one moment of greed from one employee, either during a trade sell or buy, and the company name is scrapped.
Let's just say I 100% trust the guys here. They are not people I randomly encountered and that wanted to join. I'm the CEO, just because I had the idea in the first place, otherwise it could be anyone of them. And it's the same, if they scam, they also lose money.
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
504
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Posted - 2015.02.13 03:34:00 -
[61] - Quote
Helghus Resther wrote:Pagl1u M wrote:Thank god someone is solving CCP's lack of skill on making a working player to player market. +1 Though, isn't it CCP's idea to set down the foundation and let the players build it up?
...if CCP Rattati confirms...or if he has any DEVHAX good...I may buy it
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
6171
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Posted - 2015.02.13 03:58:00 -
[62] - Quote
Why would people even start things like these when we don't even know how the trading UI will even look like? I mean, what if it'll show what both parties offer and then they have to select a "Ready" option so that the trade goes through? This form of trading would eliminate scams and the need for middlemen.
I would hold off on anything trading related until it's released. We don't even know if it'll come 1.1, it might get delayed. |
Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
504
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Posted - 2015.02.13 04:00:00 -
[63] - Quote
Joel II X wrote:Why would people even start things like these when we don't even know how the trading UI will even look like? I mean, what if it'll show what both parties offer and then they have to select a "Ready" option so that the trade goes through? This form of trading would eliminate scams and the need for middlemen.
I would hold off on anything trading related until it's released. We don't even know if it'll come 1.1, it might get delayed.
Of course it can be delayed or changed, but if it does come in 1.1 it will be like the "give" command for isk, exposing you to scams.
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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Lavallois Nash
Federal Transfers and Trades
489
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Posted - 2015.02.13 04:52:00 -
[64] - Quote
Freccia di Lybra wrote:
Let's just say I 100% trust the guys here. They are not people I randomly encountered and that wanted to join. I'm the CEO, just because I had the idea in the first place, otherwise it could be anyone of them. And it's the same, if they scam, they also lose money.
I dont doubt your diligence. The only reason im in this thread and channel is because i believe there is a reasonable chance ill be able to get some good business done with your company. If i felt you or your people were dishonest i wouldn't even bother.
I was just pointing out one of the biggest challenges of having a brokerage company is finding reliable personnel.
Joel II X wrote:Why would people even start things like these when we don't even know how the trading UI will even look like? I mean, what if it'll show what both parties offer and then they have to select a "Ready" option so that the trade goes through? This form of trading would eliminate scams and the need for middlemen.
I would hold off on anything trading related until it's released. We don't even know if it'll come 1.1, it might get delayed.
Just so were on the same page:
CCP Rattati wrote:Simple Trading as I define it is
go to item in assets press X send item to Contact (not player) select qty send are you sure yes
CCP Rattati wrote:This will create a market for middlemen, friends trading stuff they don't want and the ability to send to CEO, who distributes based on need for PC.
Better ways to trade are obviously known. They either depend on both being on the server for handshake, send item claim in email, which requires major backend work, or auction houses which is a huge undertaking.
This simple method allows trading to happen, at all and I would rather spend a part of our resources on other features.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=190676
@joel : Yes, its early, but the idea is to get brand recognition out there fast so that once word of trading gets down the grapevine, and people have mulled over what they will want to sell/trade/buy, just having "oh yeah, I heard about those guys on the forums" could be enough to get them to reach out and there you go, business is rolling.
Its also good for research. As these threads pop up, people start to speculate on what they would be looking for, how much they would pay, what circumstances would justify the extra effort of using the player market as opposed to the NPC one, ect. That way, once and if it happens, youll see a more orderly rollout of companies and services who had planned and prepared for it. Instead of seeing the market surge in all kinds of directions, a fair amount of product will be spoken for by then, so youll see companies piling inventories theyve already anticipated, and players getting payments for goods they already planned for.
And if trading doesnt happen? Scrap the company and move on. Atleast people are trying to build up some meta and community. Join in! Are you a buyer or seller? |
Terry Webber
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
578
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Posted - 2015.02.13 05:27:00 -
[65] - Quote
It's cool to see you're taking the initiative, Freccia. I'll make sure to be one of the first to try out your services. |
Iria Gren
Liquid Swords
109
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Posted - 2015.02.13 10:27:00 -
[66] - Quote
mark me i have a stupid stack of officer weapons (30+ sniper rifles I don't want) and a extra set of vet bpos i would like to try to turn them in to bpos when trading starts |
Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
510
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Posted - 2015.02.13 13:46:00 -
[67] - Quote
Iria Gren wrote:mark me i have a stupid stack of officer weapons (30+ sniper rifles I don't want) and a extra set of vet bpos i would like to try to turn them in to bpos when trading starts
Interesting . When the time comes, I'll send you a mail asking for more infos.
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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Poison Diego
Dead Man's Game RUST415
568
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Posted - 2015.02.26 09:05:00 -
[68] - Quote
I'll pay 50 mill for that deamon shotgun btw if anyone has it...
proud CBM member
Nýja Eden er bara byrjunin.
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Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
967
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Posted - 2015.02.26 09:25:00 -
[69] - Quote
Poison Diego wrote:I'll pay 50 mill for that deamon shotgun btw if anyone has it...
I only have one! I have a "dren" shotgun you can have.. :(
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
3147
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Posted - 2015.02.26 09:27:00 -
[70] - Quote
John ShepardIII wrote:CCP just needs to do the trading system like Warframe It's impossible to scam
Assuming you play on console, get yourself a heavy melee weapon (Galatine will work) there is an event just come up on PC version and I gotta wait to build a damn heavy weapon because I've never used one before and it is required for the event.
Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa?
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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John ShepardIII
Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention
1327
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Posted - 2015.02.26 15:13:00 -
[71] - Quote
CommanderBolt wrote:John ShepardIII wrote:CCP just needs to do the trading system like Warframe It's impossible to scam Assuming you play on console, get yourself a heavy melee weapon (Galatine will work) there is an event just come up on PC version and I gotta wait to build a damn heavy weapon because I've never used one before and it is required for the event. Yeah I have scindo prime for my Nyx prime
The True Shepard
Rampage GOML
Have No Fear. John Shepard Is Here!
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Poison Diego
Dead Man's Game RUST415
568
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Posted - 2015.02.27 03:24:00 -
[72] - Quote
Justicar Karnellia wrote:Poison Diego wrote:I'll pay 50 mill for that deamon shotgun btw if anyone has it... I only have one! I have a "dren" shotgun you can have.. :( I have that one already
proud CBM member
Nýja Eden er bara byrjunin.
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ReGnYuM
State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance
3508
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Posted - 2015.02.27 03:26:00 -
[73] - Quote
10% is overkill |
Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
524
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Posted - 2015.02.28 04:38:00 -
[74] - Quote
ReGnYuM wrote:10% is overkill
is it?
Well, it may be on large amount of goods, yes. It is just a placeholder for a more dynamic fee. 10% on 100k isk is just 10k but on larger quantity of goods it will be lower, much lower.
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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AndyAndio
0uter.Heaven
146
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Posted - 2015.02.28 04:51:00 -
[75] - Quote
inb4 CCP delays simple trading to 2018.-
2013 DUST 514's MVP of the Year.-
Retired for Love of the Game
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Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
524
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Posted - 2015.02.28 05:18:00 -
[76] - Quote
AndyAndio wrote:inb4 CCP delays simple trading to 2018.-
Well, it's a lot of time to think the best commercial strategy, isn't it?
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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JL3Eleven
Ancient Exiles.
2205
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Posted - 2015.02.28 07:37:00 -
[77] - Quote
Message me in game when you see me on. I have a question for you. Thanks, JL
Can I haz ur ISK?
Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
3159
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Posted - 2015.02.28 08:21:00 -
[78] - Quote
Joel II X wrote:Why would people even start things like these when we don't even know how the trading UI will even look like? I mean, what if it'll show what both parties offer and then they have to select a "Ready" option so that the trade goes through? This form of trading would eliminate scams and the need for middlemen.
I would hold off on anything trading related until it's released. We don't even know if it'll come 1.1, it might get delayed.
One would hope that a simple system would incorporate such basic features.
This kind of thing, at least from my experience, is bread and butter in multiplayer online games these days.
Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa?
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Pwnycorn
3150
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Posted - 2015.05.08 16:56:00 -
[79] - Quote
bump.
Guinea Dust Bunnies are watching you, CCP Rouge.
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Freccia di Lybra
Simple Trading Union
530
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Posted - 2015.05.08 17:14:00 -
[80] - Quote
Updated OP-
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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Squagga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
606
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Posted - 2015.05.08 18:46:00 -
[81] - Quote
This is actually pretty interesting. Because it already exist. Now there will be multiple companies that are in business to help trades go smoother
Shields, the silent killer.
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N76
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.05.08 19:42:00 -
[82] - Quote
LUGMOS wrote:Anyone want a snowball launcher BPO?
I don't want it...
I'd like to have that. What do you want for it? |
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