DUST Search - Do nanite injectors even exist anymore?

DootDoot wrote:

CCP Rattati is one of those elaborate trolls about Nanite injectors.

Nanite injectors should be -1 death. He knows it... Everyone knows it.... But it is probably way to hard for them to code and they don't want to admit it.

If your Clone didn't die.... Then How did you die? It Makes no sense in the realm of DUST 514 and the story and game concept that we have been given.

Instead CCP Rattati believes that if you get beat then you should have a death marker on your character... No matter if you never died and your clone was never terminated.

Worse? He then catered this amazing mechanic around the very very few DUST players who never want to be picked up because they have spent years with this unfinished un polished mechanic that we warned CCP about since the beginnings of this game.

Clones do not belong to the individual Mercenary.... They Belong to the team as a whole... You should have no choice about being picked up... If a Logi gets to you with a Needle? You get picked up whether you want to or not...

The Team needs that clone and life to stay competitive... To Bring in those close matches.

But when you get picked up you get -1 death and a chance to defend your ISK investment? No one can make an argument against why nearly every player would embrace the needle mechanic and actually look forward to it.

We Have taken one of the most amazing items in the game "Nanite Injectors" And one of the core concept this game was built on... "When your clone is terminated your conscience gets transferred to a new clone* And never put 1 amd 1 together to complete the vision.

Instead CCP Rattati is stuck in chest puffing land thinking if i beat you, even if i didn't double tap your incapacitated clone... You should die. And have a mark against you.

No Matter how little sense it makes in the application he is referring to.

Alot of people white knight Rattati.... But seriously... He spent a year buffing and nerfing everything... And has spent more time gutting DUST's mechanics that where good.... Inertia Dampener, Nanite Injector... Bandwidth....

He has spent more time taking away from this game then he has ever added to it.

Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson

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Lorhak Gannarsein nos nothi 4250	Posted - 2015.02.08 12:53:00 - [1] - Quote Cos I've not seen a single one since I started back up. No-one's dropping nanohives or uplinks either - and hell, there aren't even that many logis going around. What's the deal? Well, here goes nothing!!!
duster 35000 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 213	Posted - 2015.02.08 12:55:00 - [2] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Cos I've not seen a single one since I started back up. No-one's dropping nanohives or uplinks either - and hell, there aren't even that many logis going around. What's the deal? My 80% needle is lonely...so very lonely, I dare not use a 100% needle...so much lonelyness, forever alone. Choo Choo
Louis Domi Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 822	Posted - 2015.02.08 13:24:00 - [3] - Quote Most logis are repping heavies and their proto friends. I drop nanos only at my own convenience. I don't have enough patience or money to be running logi anymore :/ and no one sends thank you mail anymore
pumping up Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 194	Posted - 2015.02.08 13:29:00 - [4] - Quote I do often run logi in pubs.... the problem I have is that the help button is so seldomly pressed that's just not worth carrying a needle. Especially if you aren't running proto logi (which happens without a squad). Help me gain the C-II Dropsuit Pilot & Saboteur
TerranKnight87 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 143	Posted - 2015.02.08 13:55:00 - [5] - Quote When i get back next month and you see me in match, i'll have all the goodies on my min logi. The people getting special attention will be squad mates so just stay near me and you will be fed. This is TechMechMeds tanker. Redeployside - You are just in time for minimal immersion edition of ps2. Enjoy.
Forlorn Destrier Incorruptibles 3254	Posted - 2015.02.08 13:56:00 - [6] - Quote I run Logi with 50% needle and either hive or link depending on battle needs. We exist. Call for help, we'll come if we can. I am the *Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning* *Havok* is my *Destiny* I am *Incorruptible*
Phalad Sahantun Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 3	Posted - 2015.02.08 14:00:00 - [7] - Quote I run logistics almost exlusively sir, and though like Louis and Pumping I tend to reserve my deployables for my squad, everyone in range will recieve reps. A needle and rep tool are mandatory on all my suits, the next slots are for racially specific equipment and where necessary scanner or hive. If I'm running with a squad I'll be running proto fits costing about 175k each. Otherwise I'll be in basic fits of less than 10k in order to rebuild my isk reserves. In either case I will always have a needle and rep tool handy, and more importantly only use the former if the situation and/or merc demands it. Intaki Secessionist - Logibro Amarr/Caldari/Gallente/Minmatar Logistics 5 All Dropsuit Upgrades sans Cloak Field at 5
Kierkegaard Soren Corrosive Synergy 707	Posted - 2015.02.08 14:02:00 - [8] - Quote Optional call out after being downed broke needles. I understand why it happened, but more people need to call out. Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing."
Phalad Sahantun Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 3	Posted - 2015.02.08 14:09:00 - [9] - Quote It could also be what Forlorn and Kierkegaard pointed, not enough people use the call for help function. I know I've run into newberries that didn't know that's why they weren't getting picked up. Intaki Secessionist - Logibro Amarr/Caldari/Gallente/Minmatar Logistics 5 All Dropsuit Upgrades sans Cloak Field at 5
Henrietta Unknown Band O' Commandos 805	Posted - 2015.02.08 15:06:00 - [10] - Quote I can't tell you how many times downed mercs troll me by terminating right when I reach them. And their revive icon isn't flashing. I run 50% injectors on my Calassault and Calmando. If I don't approach the body in 15 secs, you can safely bet I'm not coming. Please buff my Magsex. It doesn't hit hard enough...

TritusX PH4NT0M5 246	Posted - 2015.02.08 16:45:00 - [11] - Quote Logi's have no love. Needles? No one presses X to be revived because it's a habit. Normally you get revived with no choice. When the time rolls around and someone actually presses X, that logi no longer runs needles because no one needs them. Uplinks are scarce because most people love being slayers and things so they swap to a different bandwith suit. Then uplinks go "pop". Nanohives are useless generally because everyone dies so fast these days. Forced Death
7th Son 7 BLITZKRIEG7 479	Posted - 2015.02.08 16:49:00 - [12] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Cos I've not seen a single one since I started back up. No-one's dropping nanohives or uplinks either - and hell, there aren't even that many logis going around. What's the deal? That's what happens when you nerf bandwidth and have a high isk cost for running a good logi suit fully equipped. Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
robin williams' ghost whisky tango foxtrot sir 826	Posted - 2015.02.08 16:58:00 - [13] - Quote TritusX wrote: Logi's have no love. Needles? No one presses X to be revived because it's a habit. Normally you get revived with no choice. When the time rolls around and someone actually presses X, that logi no longer runs needles because no one needs them. Uplinks are scarce because most people love being slayers and things so they swap to a different bandwith suit. Then uplinks go "pop". Nanohives are useless generally because everyone dies so fast these days. Pretty much this Start pressing x and not only will you bums start seeing more needles, but you won't get cloned as often. Sick of seeing dudes go 1-17 and never ask for a revive Robin Williams endorses this corp
DootDoot Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 408	Posted - 2015.02.08 17:09:00 - [14] - Quote CCP Rattati is one of those elaborate trolls about Nanite injectors. Nanite injectors should be -1 death. He knows it... Everyone knows it.... But it is probably way to hard for them to code and they don't want to admit it. If your Clone didn't die.... Then How did you die? It Makes no sense in the realm of DUST 514 and the story and game concept that we have been given. Instead CCP Rattati believes that if you get beat then you should have a death marker on your character... No matter if you never died and your clone was never terminated. Worse? He then catered this amazing mechanic around the very very few DUST players who never want to be picked up because they have spent years with this unfinished un polished mechanic that we warned CCP about since the beginnings of this game. Clones do not belong to the individual Mercenary.... They Belong to the team as a whole... You should have no choice about being picked up... If a Logi gets to you with a Needle? You get picked up whether you want to or not... The Team needs that clone and life to stay competitive... To Bring in those close matches. But when you get picked up you get -1 death and a chance to defend your ISK investment? No one can make an argument against why nearly every player would embrace the needle mechanic and actually look forward to it. We Have taken one of the most amazing items in the game "Nanite Injectors" And one of the core concept this game was built on... "When your clone is terminated your conscience gets transferred to a new clone* And never put 1 amd 1 together to complete the vision. Instead CCP Rattati is stuck in chest puffing land thinking if i beat you, even if i didn't double tap your incapacitated clone... You should die. And have a mark against you. No Matter how little sense it makes in the application he is referring to. Alot of people white knight Rattati.... But seriously... He spent a year buffing and nerfing everything... And has spent more time gutting DUST's mechanics that where good.... Inertia Dampener, Nanite Injector... Bandwidth.... He has spent more time taking away from this game then he has ever added to it.
7th Son 7 BLITZKRIEG7 480	Posted - 2015.02.08 17:14:00 - [15] - Quote DootDoot wrote: CCP Rattati is one of those elaborate trolls about Nanite injectors. Nanite injectors should be -1 death. He knows it... Everyone knows it.... But it is probably way to hard for them to code and they don't want to admit it. If your Clone didn't die.... Then How did you die? It Makes no sense in the realm of DUST 514 and the story and game concept that we have been given. Instead CCP Rattati believes that if you get beat then you should have a death marker on your character... No matter if you never died and your clone was never terminated. Worse? He then catered this amazing mechanic around the very very few DUST players who never want to be picked up because they have spent years with this unfinished un polished mechanic that we warned CCP about since the beginnings of this game. Clones do not belong to the individual Mercenary.... They Belong to the team as a whole... You should have no choice about being picked up... If a Logi gets to you with a Needle? You get picked up whether you want to or not... The Team needs that clone and life to stay competitive... To Bring in those close matches. But when you get picked up you get -1 death and a chance to defend your ISK investment? No one can make an argument against why nearly every player would embrace the needle mechanic and actually look forward to it. We Have taken one of the most amazing items in the game "Nanite Injectors" And one of the core concept this game was built on... "When your clone is terminated your conscience gets transferred to a new clone* And never put 1 amd 1 together to complete the vision. Instead CCP Rattati is stuck in chest puffing land thinking if i beat you, even if i didn't double tap your incapacitated clone... You should die. And have a mark against you. No Matter how little sense it makes in the application he is referring to. Alot of people white knight Rattati.... But seriously... He spent a year buffing and nerfing everything... And has spent more time gutting DUST's mechanics that where good.... Inertia Dampener, Nanite Injector... Bandwidth.... He has spent more time taking away from this game then he has ever added to it. Well Said, +1 Sir Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 21940	Posted - 2015.02.08 18:27:00 - [16] - Quote DootDoot wrote: Instead CCP Rattati believes that if you get beat then you should have a death marker on your character... No matter if you never died and your clone was never terminated. I doubt this. IIRC he has expressed a desire to improve this mechanic. Quote: Worse? He then catered this amazing mechanic around the very very few DUST players who never want to be picked up because they have spent years with this unfinished un polished mechanic that we warned CCP about since the beginnings of this game. ... The call for help mechanic was put in to prevent stupidity like repeatedly reviving someone in fire so they get killed over and over. Quote: Instead CCP Rattati is stuck in chest puffing land thinking if i beat you, even if i didn't double tap your incapacitated clone... You should die. And have a mark against you. No Matter how little sense it makes in the application he is referring to. Alot of people white knight Rattati.... But seriously... He spent a year buffing and nerfing everything... And has spent more time gutting DUST's mechanics that where good.... Inertia Dampener, Nanite Injector... Bandwidth.... He has spent more time taking away from this game then he has ever added to it. There's more bashing in this post than even I can stomach, honestly. Rattati is not deliberately deciding not to implement this stuff because he's arrogant or whatever rubbish you care to think up. It's just there are hundreds of little bits like this to get done and they can't all happen at once. As for 'buffing and nerfing everything' Rattati managed better balance changes in a few months than an entire team of devs managed in years. I disapprove of his latest exploits with warbarge damage bonuses and suchlike, but your particular brand of idiocy is beyond the pale. :Bittervetting intensifies:
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 490	Posted - 2015.02.08 18:32:00 - [17] - Quote Get into a squad with a good logi o.o G.L.O.R.Y Soldier, I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
Alex-ZX Valor Coalition Red Whines. 229	Posted - 2015.02.08 18:34:00 - [18] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Cos I've not seen a single one since I started back up. No-one's dropping nanohives or uplinks either - and hell, there aren't even that many logis going around. What's the deal? After the beta needle nerf I stop using them.. Epic times.. Alex's modified ZX-030 HMG Luis' modified VC-107 CR Alex's modified VC-107 SMG *Owner of this beasts*
Logi Bro Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 3442	Posted - 2015.02.08 18:34:00 - [19] - Quote I don't know what world you people live in, but whenever I play logistics I have to literally race multiple other people if I want to revive someone, then the guy that got revived will get 5 repair beams on him to rep him up. Logi spam is ridiculous, and really just makes it unfun to play logistics. SP Sinks? Fixed.
Minmatar Mercenary 9292 Ahrendee Mercenaries 561	Posted - 2015.02.08 21:02:00 - [20] - Quote Do you even exist anymore lorhak? I'm pretty sure your just a ghost from my past, it seems like a millennia ago now..... Da only good Amarr is a ded Amarr, an de ony fing betta than a ded one, is a dyin one who tells ya were 'is mates is!

Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1519	Posted - 2015.02.08 21:24:00 - [21] - Quote I am like Logi Bro, I see too many logis running around now, the problem is that we are all pretty much just repping a few heavies. Hives get eaten up quickly and I only carry a few, links get destroyed unless you are sitting on top of them, few people x for help because they just don't think about it, don't trust you to make sure it is safe or want to switch suits. That leaves repping and scanning for logis and both are being spammed. Because, that's why.
Minmatar Mercenary 9292 Ahrendee Mercenaries 562	Posted - 2015.02.08 21:26:00 - [22] - Quote DootDoot wrote: snip I couldn't agree less, This isn't chest pumping or whatever you call it but when your health goes from 100% to 0% you have been beaten, don't care if it was from 1 guy head on or from 16 people in the back you deserve a death. Someone needling your ass doesn't negate all your actions leading up to your death. You already get your suit back and save the team a clone, provided the logi isn't a fukken ****'ead and isn't picking you up in a stupid spot everyone would wanna be picked up anyway but with randoms you can't be sure. IMO anyone who thinks that getting picked up should give -1 death is just insecure about their k/dr, if needles were so crucial to the team they would be everywhere in PC so correct me if I'm wrong but most if the time is it not better to just respawn from one of the countless uplinks nearby? Or even halfway across the battlefield where your needed? Or in a different suit that's better for the engagement? Da only good Amarr is a ded Amarr, an de ony fing betta than a ded one, is a dyin one who tells ya were 'is mates is!
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 9513	Posted - 2015.02.08 21:37:00 - [23] - Quote Dammit. Even I have to defend Rattati when it comes to this profoundly stupid post. Thankfully Rattati has said everything that needed to be said. Upgrade your greymatter. *~New Eden's #1 Gallente Arm's Dealer*
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7401	Posted - 2015.02.08 21:59:00 - [24] - Quote Logis are not necessary. They are nice to have around, but unfortunately most people do not have the capability to be a logistics player. It's mostly due to many not being able to balance out using their rep tools and their guns. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17020	Posted - 2015.02.08 22:02:00 - [25] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Dammit. Even I have to defend Rattati when it comes to this profoundly stupid post. Thankfully Rattati has said everything that needed to be said. Upgrade your greymatter. Shut up Kirk. If you let go of your anger what good are you to us? "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
bathtubist TRUE SAVAGES Learning Alliance 35	Posted - 2015.02.08 22:08:00 - [26] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Cos I've not seen a single one since I started back up. No-one's dropping nanohives or uplinks either - and hell, there aren't even that many logis going around. What's the deal? if you in battle academeny or mostly choose skirmish matches that might be your main problem
Lorhak Gannarsein nos nothi 4255	Posted - 2015.02.08 22:54:00 - [27] - Quote bathtubist wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Cos I've not seen a single one since I started back up. No-one's dropping nanohives or uplinks either - and hell, there aren't even that many logis going around. What's the deal? if you in battle academeny or mostly choose skirmish matches that might be your main problem I am neither of those things; I never /was/ in battle academy, for what it's worth. Maybe I'm just unfortunate. Well, here goes nothing!!!
Second Cerberus Tested In Production 164	Posted - 2015.02.08 23:35:00 - [28] - Quote Thank god the "needle f'ing" is over. I personally don't care if I am ever revived again and I ran logi for several builds. It was a boosting, griefing cluster from the beginning and I think many mercs are glad it got nerfed. "I don't always test my code, but when I do, I do it in production." - *CCP*
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 6047	Posted - 2015.02.08 23:46:00 - [29] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Cos I've not seen a single one since I started back up. No-one's dropping nanohives or uplinks either - and hell, there aren't even that many logis going around. What's the deal? The ways of the infector are mastered by few - but it's a valuable skill like no other. It makes the rep tool virtually pointless for anything but WP farming. People are just idiots. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 660	Posted - 2015.02.09 00:35:00 - [30] - Quote My assault runs with a proto needle. 90wp base for a pickup? yes please.



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