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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.12 04:19:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote: Alt farming is the only reasonable way to upgrade and use the warbarge before I die of old age. Can we all agree in advance on what is a reasonably sized Alt Farm? I'd like some actual play time in, but it'll be hard to keep up with Kain's 30.
I've got two PSNs, I hardly doubt I'll be able to maintain logging in on 6 characters to claim the components every two days. The alts are only 4 days old and I'm already tired of it.
I'm tired of it altogether, I've been pushing for team play, payouts based on performance and winning, etc. The warbarge stuff has pushed me to the limit, I foolishly jumped right in and spent about $120 on mine. There was little information (zero) on the mechanics of the upgrading or the functionality of the laboratory. I wouldn't have spent a single $ on it if I'd known I'd only be able to use it every other day and be unable to upgrade my warbarge or save for future modules if I used it that much. I never would have imagined it would have worked the way that it does. I'll never be fooled again.
I've spent over $2000 on CCP when you factor in the Templar Codes to get around the ****** payouts and I've got Eve characters multiple years old. I'll still be playing, but I will no longer be a whale.
I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
1432
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Posted - 2015.02.12 08:44:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote: Alt farming is the only reasonable way to upgrade and use the warbarge before I die of old age. Can we all agree in advance on what is a reasonably sized Alt Farm? I'd like some actual play time in, but it'll be hard to keep up with Kain's 30. I've got two PSNs, I hardly doubt I'll be able to maintain logging in on 6 characters to claim the components every two days. The alts are only 4 days old and I'm already tired of it. [...] There was little information (zero) on the mechanics of the upgrading or the functionality of the laboratory. [...]
I set up production on my five accounts. Stopped logging into them all to claim yesterday - couldn't be bothered. But reasons for stopping are:
- looks like any farming will be addressed - don't have any way to use the other components yet
Can pretty much guarantee if there was a way to use the alt components right now, I'd still be logging on those other accounts. All I will do is claim when I have cause to use the account for something else, which is usually dumping spare SP into another play-style to try it out before using that SP on my main.
As for the information on the mechanics - yeah a manual would've come in handy. Still would actually. Maybe the Instructions Production Facility is allocated to Slot 14.
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4065
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Posted - 2015.02.12 10:43:00 -
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DJINN Jecture wrote:Cross Atu wrote:Lady MDK wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:Simply remove Components and Scrap Metal from the list of tradeable goodies when Simple Trading comes out. That's the obvious fix. Alt farming of any kind is not playing the game. Neither is paying real money for the components playing a game ;). But it is keeping the servers online so that the game can be played (That being said refinements to the current component system are actively being explored). Cheers, Cross I wass under the understanding that my stack of monthly Eve Subs were doing that, well thats good to know at least there is a use for the unnecesary PTW factor being grossly abused by CCP in this case. EVE and Dust 514 are separate projects that do not share a budget despite sharing world lore. There is, to the best of my knowledge, no fiscal overlap between the projects whatsoever.
See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
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Lavallois Nash
Federal Transfers and Trades
488
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Posted - 2015.02.12 14:22:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote: My 10+ alt PSN accounts would beg to differ with this idea.
Why should me and the rest of the people who were going to follow the rules get punished by having less features because you didnt want to use 1 login per person?
Thats what I meant by "people who were going to cheat were going to cheat anyway". As long as ANY items are tradeable, you will still use you 10 PSN logins and your 30 characters to farm it up and mail them.
So banning trading of warbarge components does nothing, because someone like you with alot of logins, is not even after warbarge components, youre just after getting rich quick. So even if warbarge component trading is prevented, you will still find a way to flood the market with more goods and treasure than youd have reasonably been able to make had you stayed withing the system.
Im not trying to take a shot at you for having multiple logins, im just not in favor of restrictions on trading, because restrictions only hurt the people who had planned to follow the rules anyway. |
Gyn Wallace
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.02.12 14:50:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Kain Spero wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:Simply remove Components and Scrap Metal from the list of tradeable goodies when Simple Trading comes out. That's the obvious fix. Alt farming of any kind is not playing the game. Any way to have a more elegant solution that doesn't involve limiting the player economy down the road? Really all assests should be tradable. Why? Because EVE? Although Kain already responded, I'd offer a different answer: Because pay-to-win games suck and you don't want Dust 514 to become or be confused with pay-to-win games.
If isk, earned by more active players can purchase war barge components, then critics (of Aurum-only accelerated war barge advancement as a form of pay-to-win) are easily refuted. Failing to implement some other means of advancing the war barge, gives weight to the pay-to-win argument.
No matter how much I play, there is no way for me to get the full war barge damage bonus before the servers might get shut down, because CCP implemented a war barge advancement time frame without the benefit of player feedback. We know, most of it is useless; but we all know some player feedback is excellent (and can even land you a job with CCP :P).
Now you have harder choices to make: Reduce the war barge advancement time frame for everyone and **** off the players who paid Aurum to get an advantage over everone else or leave the rest of the players pissed off at your gradually more pay-to-win game?
The Dust/Eve Isk Exchange Thread
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DJINN Jecture
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
259
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Posted - 2015.02.12 16:10:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:DJINN Jecture wrote:........ I wass under the understanding that my stack of monthly Eve Subs were doing that, well thats good to know at least there is a use for the unnecesary PTW factor being grossly abused by CCP in this case. EVE and Dust 514 are separate projects that do not share a budget despite sharing world lore. There is, to the best of my knowledge, no fiscal overlap between the projects whatsoever. O-K-Then a complete break...wait are you telling me the server is now not Tranquility? Not that I like to be a stickler for details but project costs aside, the matter I was commenting on in this quote was keeping the bytes flowing on the Tranquility server which I am still pretty confident is also Hosting Eve. This is not a complaint please do not misunderstand me... I think we should merge the games personally (yes I went out and bought a PS3 and HDTV just to play the game, now the kids use the PS3 more often than I do).
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Cassa-Nova
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
83
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Posted - 2015.02.13 02:47:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote: EVE and Dust 514 are separate projects that do not share a budget despite sharing world lore. There is, to the best of my knowledge, no fiscal overlap between the projects whatsoever.
Oh so we're not on tranquility then?
Seriously do you want this game to become P2W? Because this is how you do it. Pretty sure it was mathed out to be over a year or possibly two and a half to grind through freely. FFS man i JUST unlocked level 2 for the warbarge legitmently. I love Dust an EvE, but im starting to hate this game
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