DUST Search - Official Dust p2w Thread.

Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:

Maken Tosch wrote:

Vulpes Dolosus wrote:

For you guys who play Eve, Warbarges are Dust's planetary management. It's something that runs in the background with very little/ no maintenance except checking it once every few days. It's not a way to make a living/ lots of ISK/ assets, but it does give you a little more than you had before.

I'm an Eve Online player and I agree with this. I have six colonies that I'm using to produce Nanite Repair Paste and are very lucrative when harvesting the P2 components. But like you said, Planetary Interaction is just like the WB in Dust. No real continuous input is required. And just like the WB, if you don't check in enough, you might lose a cycle or two when your storage is filled up to the limit. Happened to me in Eve. I lose nearly 10 million ISK in potential profits because I lapsed on my 3-day check-in.

So you'd be okay if CCP released an EVEO item that you could buy for a few hundred dollars that would raise your DPS by another 5% no stacking penalties? You could grind for a year without paying and get 1%, a few years and get 2%, or a decade and see a sweet 4%?

Remember Jita?

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Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries 830	Posted - 2015.02.06 03:47:00 - [1] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: Just so people understand the components that you make with the mobile facility have to be used to get the weapons otherwise you cannot make more which leaves you unable to save them up to upgrade anything else unless you use AUR. Otherwise you save the components up and lose the production of new weapons while you save components unless you spend AUR. So you have to pick one and lose the other or spend more AUR to get what you should get for free. CCP Rattati wrote: This is intended, you need to make difficult choices. LogicGäó
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2065	Posted - 2015.02.06 03:49:00 - [2] - Quote CCP: This is intended to **** you off to buy more AUR. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 15483	Posted - 2015.02.06 03:56:00 - [3] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: I just hit Loyalty Rank 8 today and as of right now it says I need 104,835 points to hit Loyalty Rank 9. To get that many points without purchasing Aurum will require me to play roughly over 25,000 matches. If I play 10 matches a day everyday it will take me about 6 years to achieve this. Good job thinking it through CCP. This is another good post highlighting how this game is p2w. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3147	Posted - 2015.02.06 03:57:00 - [4] - Quote And how many WB Components does a WB generate per day again? There are severe issues with the WB, but the Officer Weapon Dispenser Module wanting components is not one of them. A proper example would be the ridiculous 5% damage module and how many WB components that needs, and that you need at least level 3 to be competitive with anyone who has it. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2067	Posted - 2015.02.06 04:01:00 - [5] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: And how many WB Components does a WB generate per day again? There are severe issues with the WB, but the Officer Weapon Dispenser Module wanting components is not one of them. A proper example would be the ridiculous 5% damage module and how many WB components that needs, and that you need at least level 3 to be competitive with anyone who has it. 100. 300 wbc for lvl 1 which makes it 200 per day. To go from lvl 3 mobile factory (400 per day) to lvl 4 (500 per day) its 25,334 wbc or 75,000+ AUR. Edit: 100k AUR is $50usd. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3147	Posted - 2015.02.06 04:03:00 - [6] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: 100. 300 wbc for lvl 1 which makes it 200 per day. To go from lvl 3 mobile factory (400 per day) to lvl 4 (500 per day) its 25,334 wbc or 75,000+ AUR. Edit: 100k AUR is $50usd. For less AUR expenditure you could have had 4 Factory 4 Lab, instead of 3 Factory, 5 Lab and the inability to keep up with manufacturing. To go from 4-5 Weapon Lab you spent about 300K AUR, not counting the cooldown cost which was another 315K AUR minimum. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
7th Son 7 BLITZKRIEG7 451	Posted - 2015.02.06 04:03:00 - [7] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Just so people understand the components that you make with the mobile facility have to be used to get the weapons otherwise you cannot make more which leaves you unable to save them up to upgrade anything else unless you use AUR. Otherwise you save the components up and lose the production of new weapons while you save components unless you spend AUR. So you have to pick one and lose the other or spend more AUR to get what you should get for free. CCP Rattati wrote: This is intended, you need to make difficult choices. Not really Rattati, not playing Dust is quite an easy decision. Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2067	Posted - 2015.02.06 04:09:00 - [8] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: 100. 300 wbc for lvl 1 which makes it 200 per day. To go from lvl 3 mobile factory (400 per day) to lvl 4 (500 per day) its 25,334 wbc or 75,000+ AUR. Edit: 100k AUR is $50usd. For less AUR expenditure you could have had 4 Factory 4 Lab, instead of 3 Factory, 5 Lab and the inability to keep up with manufacturing. To go from 4-5 Weapon Lab you spent about 300K AUR, not counting the cooldown cost which was another 315K AUR minimum. Holy ****! that's way way way too much. I don't have lab 5 tho, only 3. I'm 3,2,3,2,3 on subsystems. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2935	Posted - 2015.02.06 04:12:00 - [9] - Quote For you guys who play Eve, Warbarges are Dust's planetary management. It's something that runs in the background with very little/ no maintenance except checking it once every few days. It's not a way to make a living/ lots of ISK/ assets, but it does give you a little more than you had before. Dust is there! I was real! Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3147	Posted - 2015.02.06 04:16:00 - [10] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: For you guys who play Eve, Warbarges are Dust's planetary management. It's something that runs in the background with very little/ no maintenance except checking it once every few days. It's not a way to make a living/ lots of ISK/ assets, but it does give you a little more than you had before. As an EVE player I agree with you with the notable exception that no where in EVE do you gain a 5% damage boost from having a bunch of crap on some planets, crap that other people can destroy if I might add. If CCP would remove that 5% damage boost (Hell I dropped 400K AUR on it, I should be biased FOR it not AGAINST it) then I would not be so irritated by the WB. Yes, the ISK module is icing, so is the SP module, the lab is meh considering it is utterly random and only with a "chance" of a high level object, but it is the damage armory module which is unbalancing. I basically can get a free Complex Heavy Damage Mod for all my sents, without stacking penalties. This is not okay. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire

Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 815	Posted - 2015.02.06 04:20:00 - [11] - Quote Guys.. type p2w in google. Surely you don't know what it means. This game would be p2w if, for eg. : you could buy for aur gun that deals 2x more dmg than one for isk. - You can't. What can you get using aur [that you can't with isk] More sp, faster way to get 5% bonus dmg, few % of bonus isk, sp. That's all. I don't like what they're [CCP] doing but it's not p2w. Loyal to State. > *Gallus in suo sterquilinio plurimum potest - the rooster can do plenty in his own dungheap*
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2071	Posted - 2015.02.06 04:20:00 - [12] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: For you guys who play Eve, Warbarges are Dust's planetary management. It's something that runs in the background with very little/ no maintenance except checking it once every few days. It's not a way to make a living/ lots of ISK/ assets, but it does give you a little more than you had before. As an EVE player I agree with you with the notable exception that no where in EVE do you gain a 5% damage boost from having a bunch of crap on some planets, crap that other people can destroy if I might add. If CCP would remove that 5% damage boost (Hell I dropped 400K AUR on it, I should be biased FOR it not AGAINST it) then I would not be so irritated by the WB. Yes, the ISK module is icing, so is the SP module, the lab is meh considering it is utterly random and only with a "chance" of a high level object, but it is the damage armory module which is unbalancing. I basically can get a free Complex Heavy Damage Mod for all my sents, without stacking penalties. This is not okay. So what's your loyalty rank? Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
Supernus Gigas The Cooked Goose Coalition 1128	Posted - 2015.02.06 04:52:00 - [13] - Quote So let me get this straight, to advance your warbarge to the higher tiers you either have to either; A) Have patience and collect resources or B) Spend an obscene amount of money *FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVING CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!*
Big miku Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 366	Posted - 2015.02.06 04:53:00 - [14] - Quote Supernus Gigas wrote: So let me get this straight, to advance your warbarge to the higher tiers you either have to either; A) Have patience and collect resources or B) Spend an obscene amount of money I hear it takes YEARS to do something with the WB
robin williams' ghost whisky tango foxtrot sir 798	Posted - 2015.02.06 04:59:00 - [15] - Quote The game is ptw now? Sweet! So what's this magical item I can buy to win matches? I want it. Damn I'm glad proto stomping is over because I can just buy my wins now. There isn't a smiley face sarcastic enough to put here. Having a maxed out warbarge doesn't make you win. Seriously. Robin Williams endorses this corp
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries 834	Posted - 2015.02.06 05:07:00 - [16] - Quote buying officer weapons is basically p2w my book. LogicGäó
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2076	Posted - 2015.02.06 05:16:00 - [17] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: buying officer weapons is basically p2w my book. So how much for your Balacs and Kalantes? Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2076	Posted - 2015.02.06 05:17:00 - [18] - Quote robin williams' ghost wrote: The game is ptw now? Sweet! So what's this magical item I can buy to win matches? I want it. Damn I'm glad proto stomping is over because I can just buy my wins now. There isn't a smiley face sarcastic enough to put here. Having a maxed out warbarge doesn't make you win. Seriously. Well if you were Rich you could afford to Officer stomp. Guess your not Rich tho. Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries 834	Posted - 2015.02.06 05:17:00 - [19] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: buying officer weapons is basically p2w my book. So how much for your Balacs and Kalantes? 100mil each, non-negotiable. LogicGäó
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10967	Posted - 2015.02.06 05:19:00 - [20] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: For you guys who play Eve, Warbarges are Dust's planetary management. It's something that runs in the background with very little/ no maintenance except checking it once every few days. It's not a way to make a living/ lots of ISK/ assets, but it does give you a little more than you had before. I'm an Eve Online player and I agree with this. I have six colonies that I'm using to produce Nanite Repair Paste and are very lucrative when harvesting the P2 components. But like you said, Planetary Interaction is just like the WB in Dust. No real continuous input is required. And just like the WB, if you don't check in enough, you might lose a cycle or two when your storage is filled up to the limit. Happened to me in Eve. I lose nearly 10 million ISK in potential profits because I lapsed on my 3-day check-in. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.

Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3148	Posted - 2015.02.06 05:21:00 - [21] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: For you guys who play Eve, Warbarges are Dust's planetary management. It's something that runs in the background with very little/ no maintenance except checking it once every few days. It's not a way to make a living/ lots of ISK/ assets, but it does give you a little more than you had before. I'm an Eve Online player and I agree with this. I have six colonies that I'm using to produce Nanite Repair Paste and are very lucrative when harvesting the P2 components. But like you said, Planetary Interaction is just like the WB in Dust. No real continuous input is required. And just like the WB, if you don't check in enough, you might lose a cycle or two when your storage is filled up to the limit. Happened to me in Eve. I lose nearly 10 million ISK in potential profits because I lapsed on my 3-day check-in. So you'd be okay if CCP released an EVEO item that you could buy for a few hundred dollars that would raise your DPS by another 5% no stacking penalties? You could grind for a year without paying and get 1%, a few years and get 2%, or a decade and see a sweet 4%? Remember Jita? "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. 2079	Posted - 2015.02.06 05:35:00 - [22] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: buying officer weapons is basically p2w my book. So how much for your Balacs and Kalantes? 100mil each, non-negotiable. Ok. I'll take 9, but they better be loaded! Can I haz ur ISK? Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
DootDoot Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 372	Posted - 2015.02.06 05:45:00 - [23] - Quote Atiim wrote: Summa Militum wrote: I just hit Loyalty Rank 8 today and as of right now it says I need 104,835 points to hit Loyalty Rank 9. To get that many points without purchasing Aurum will require me to play roughly over 25,000 matches. If I play 10 matches a day everyday it will take me about 6 years to achieve this. Good job thinking it through CCP. This is another good post highlighting how this game is p2w. Yes you can gain Loyalty rank without spending Aurum... But it will take you several years as a human with any sort of life outside of video games just to gain one level in the middle of the range.... 7 years to gain one level at 10 matches per day...... Or spend Aurum..... Is Pay Too Win..... The entire idea of pay to get sooner expires when it takes you longer then a few months of grinding. The Warbarge just should of been a giant cow with dollar signs as it's spots. Like why try and lie to us like it's not. CCP is about to turn it's loyal player base against itself in every comment about this game in just one patch. All the work they have done to walk the fine line and undone by two terrible patches.
robin williams' ghost whisky tango foxtrot sir 803	Posted - 2015.02.06 12:53:00 - [24] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: robin williams' ghost wrote: The game is ptw now? Sweet! So what's this magical item I can buy to win matches? I want it. Damn I'm glad proto stomping is over because I can just buy my wins now. There isn't a smiley face sarcastic enough to put here. Having a maxed out warbarge doesn't make you win. Seriously. Well if you were Rich you could afford to Officer stomp. Guess your not Rich tho. I'm far from rich, but do well enough for myself to throw a little money at this game time to time because I enjoy playing it. I assure you having a maxed out warbarge doesn't give you the ability to officer stomp Even at level five experimental factory you only have a chance at receiving one random officer weapon a day. That hardly gives you the ability to officer stomp. Robin Williams endorses this corp
Michael Arck 6167	Posted - 2015.02.06 13:01:00 - [25] - Quote This whole thing reminds me of Goodfellas when Ray Liotta talks about their money making schemes and burning down bars for insurance money. Guys are being juiced for money. You guys are nothing more than a fast buck. Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
hold that Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 610	Posted - 2015.02.06 13:05:00 - [26] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Guys.. type p2w in google. Surely you don't know what it means. This game would be p2w if, for eg. : you could buy for aur gun that deals 2x more dmg than one for isk. - You can't. What can you get using aur [that you can't with isk] More sp, faster way to get 5% bonus dmg, few % of bonus isk, sp. That's all. I don't like what they're [CCP] doing but it's not p2w. without paying aur you are going to wait 6 months to get that 5% damage, a bonus that everyone will need in this game, as this game is about killing others, that then becomes pay to win.
pumping up Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 175	Posted - 2015.02.06 13:07:00 - [27] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: For you guys who play Eve, Warbarges are Dust's planetary management. It's something that runs in the background with very little/ no maintenance except checking it once every few days. It's not a way to make a living/ lots of ISK/ assets, but it does give you a little more than you had before. I'm an Eve Online player and I agree with this. I have six colonies that I'm using to produce Nanite Repair Paste and are very lucrative when harvesting the P2 components. But like you said, Planetary Interaction is just like the WB in Dust. No real continuous input is required. And just like the WB, if you don't check in enough, you might lose a cycle or two when your storage is filled up to the limit. Happened to me in Eve. I lose nearly 10 million ISK in potential profits because I lapsed on my 3-day check-in. So you'd be okay if CCP released an EVEO item that you could buy for a few hundred dollars that would raise your DPS by another 5% no stacking penalties? You could grind for a year without paying and get 1%, a few years and get 2%, or a decade and see a sweet 4%? Remember Jita? Eve is pay2play though. That should make a difference no? Help me gain the C-II Dropsuit Pilot & Saboteur


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