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Evie Glass Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.02.05 15:17:00 - [1] - Quote Ran few games with friends. got no skillpoints at end of game because we have low war points. whats point of playing now?
Makuta Miserix DOD - Fringe Division 345	Posted - 2015.02.05 15:23:00 - [2] - Quote How low were your WP's? CEO of DOD - Fringe Division. Please don't break the universe. Thank you for your cooperation. Private Beta Veteran.
Evie Glass Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.02.05 15:25:00 - [3] - Quote Makuta Miserix wrote: How low were your WP's? between 0-150 warpoints. lot of the team from 9 place down were same. think one my squad got skillpoints
Yokal Bob State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 796	Posted - 2015.02.05 15:26:00 - [4] - Quote Did not think anything had changed in that aspect baffled /{o.o}/ ---L Inflatable hammer strikes again
Evie Glass Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.02.05 15:31:00 - [5] - Quote Yokal Bob wrote: Did not think anything had changed in that aspect baffled normally for a bad match we get 1000-2000 skillpoints or so. now we got 0 even with our boosters were not getting the skillpoints. for an hour weve played and lose badly and earned no points
Edau Skir2 Nefantar Raiders 372	Posted - 2015.02.05 15:32:00 - [6] - Quote Evie Glass wrote: Yokal Bob wrote: Did not think anything had changed in that aspect baffled normally for a bad match we get 1000-2000 skillpoints or so. now we got 0 even with our boosters were not getting the skillpoints. for an hour weve played and lose badly and earned no points Drop uplinks or hives, even mlt ones, or try to aim for Kill assists. Hell, I'll help you guys out in game if you want it. Resident pasty smasher
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2077	Posted - 2015.02.05 15:35:00 - [7] - Quote You're allowed to be bad at the game. Just don't expect to be rewarded for being bad at the game. Take this as a suggestion: Get better (use uplinks, injectors, repair tools, use a dropship or lav with a mobile cru in it, mass fire on enemies with something that you don't need to aim well like a mass driver). If you're getting below 150wp's you are not carrying your own weight, speaking as someone who regularly feels like I have to drag my team kicking and screaming to victory it **ing sucks to have people who don't contribute as teammates. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.
Evie Glass Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.02.05 15:36:00 - [8] - Quote Edau Skir2 wrote: Evie Glass wrote: Yokal Bob wrote: Did not think anything had changed in that aspect baffled normally for a bad match we get 1000-2000 skillpoints or so. now we got 0 even with our boosters were not getting the skillpoints. for an hour weve played and lose badly and earned no points Drop uplinks or hives, even mlt ones, or try to aim for Kill assists. Hell, I'll help you guys out in game if you want it. sometimes dont get the chance to haha 3 of the friends have left game now. they didnt like it much before but now they cant even progress in game because they lose so badly. theyve gone back to destiny and call of duty on ps4
Cat Merc Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 14906	Posted - 2015.02.05 15:36:00 - [9] - Quote Try to be somewhat useful to your team and hack something? Literally anything? Turrets, supply depots, CRU's, etc'. It allows the killers to focus on the enemy, and you get some decent WP from that. You can get a good 1200 WP just from running around, hacking the things everyone else can't be bothered with doing. Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan! *Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente vehicle name!*
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 636	Posted - 2015.02.05 15:39:00 - [10] - Quote It was in the patch notes. Veterans need to get WP for SP because the participation rewards are for new players who get less for WP than a high SP player. It is unfairly weighed to favor the logi, because an average "slayer" with only a few kills will receive a tiny ISK/SP payout. SP payout for 20+ kills is pretty decent. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]

Lynn Beck Delta Vanguard 6 2352	Posted - 2015.02.05 15:41:00 - [11] - Quote There's a "Vet" line you have to cross each match to earn SP. I believe this is 100 for newbros, 150 for vets. Meaning if you dont make at least 100 Wp you get 0 rewards. This was originally intended as a anti Afk measure, i believe. Try moving in a group, and using equipment in general more often. Rep tools give "guardian" WPs just for your rep...ee doing damage, while nanos give WP just for your teammates not having maximum ammo. General John Ripper -BAM! I'm Emeril Lagasse. This message was approved by the 'Nobody Loved You' Foundation'
Evie Glass Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.02.05 15:41:00 - [12] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: You're allowed to be bad at the game. Just don't expect to be rewarded for being bad at the game. Take this as a suggestion: Get better (use uplinks, injectors, repair tools, use a dropship or lav with a mobile cru in it, mass fire on enemies with something that you don't need to aim well like a mass driver). If you're getting below 150wp's you are not carrying your own weight, speaking as someone who regularly feels like I have to drag my team kicking and screaming to victory it ****ing sucks to have people who don't contribute as teammates. Here's a question: What are you doing in a match that you are consistently ending it with less than 150wp? were getting killed before we cant even move from spawning in. we were 2 logistics and 2 heavy suits but as soon as we spawn and try to put uplink down away from enemy team they found us and killed us and destroyed our uplinks. how are we supposed to 'get better' when we cant even earn skillpoints? several games its not just my squad but other players as well who have low warpoints and i guess are also not receiving skillpoints because of it
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2078	Posted - 2015.02.05 15:44:00 - [13] - Quote Luk Manag wrote: It was in the patch notes. Veterans need to get WP for SP because the participation rewards are for new players who get less for WP than a high SP player. It is unfairly weighed to favor the logi, because an average "slayer" with only a few kills will receive a tiny ISK/SP payout. SP payout for 20+ kills is pretty decent. You actually earn less SP for having obscene amounts of WP's than you do for having moderate amounts of WP, the system is on a curve though on average if you're actually playing the game you will always earn more SP than previously. It's a system designed to prevent boosting. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2078	Posted - 2015.02.05 15:46:00 - [14] - Quote Evie Glass wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: You're allowed to be bad at the game. Just don't expect to be rewarded for being bad at the game. Take this as a suggestion: Get better (use uplinks, injectors, repair tools, use a dropship or lav with a mobile cru in it, mass fire on enemies with something that you don't need to aim well like a mass driver). If you're getting below 150wp's you are not carrying your own weight, speaking as someone who regularly feels like I have to drag my team kicking and screaming to victory it **ing sucks to have people who don't contribute as teammates. Here's a question: What are you doing in a match that you are consistently ending it with less than 150wp? were getting killed before we cant even move from spawning in. we were 2 logistics and 2 heavy suits but as soon as we spawn and try to put uplink down away from enemy team they found us and killed us and destroyed our uplinks. how are we supposed to 'get better' when we cant even earn skillpoints? several games its not just my squad but other players as well who have low warpoints and i guess are also not receiving skillpoints because of it You have a ground spawn. You have an MCC. This is what I mean by get better. Figure it out bud. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries 1474	Posted - 2015.02.05 15:50:00 - [15] - Quote Alright... I guess this calls for the "Adopt a Newberry" program. Squad commissions are back fellas.. come on vets, be a big brother to one of these lil guys and let them put that big ole defend order on you, hell maybe even let them finish off the kill! Prereq for new applicants - You must have at least advanced uplinks to be considered for the AAN program..
Evie Glass Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.02.05 15:51:00 - [16] - Quote uninstalled game now anyway. it was not fun before but at least when i did badly i got a small amount of skillpoints to make my character better. too many times i have games were enemy are using highest tier stuff and i cannot afford to buy it and so now i just get less chance of getting better. the skill point gap expands greater between myself and them. its a silly system. just because the charatcter is old im supposed to be super awesome and if im not i dont progress or progress very slowly. i took a break for several months because of unfair matchmaking. game isnt any better. perhaps i will try again in a few more months when i gain more passive skillpoints bye for now peoples
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2078	Posted - 2015.02.05 15:53:00 - [17] - Quote This is a you problem, not a game problem. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1513	Posted - 2015.02.05 15:54:00 - [18] - Quote Something sure changed. I am now ending up top of the leaderboard quite often, which had been getting rare before Warlords. This is on my main, on this alt I can barely make anything. Because, that's why.
Grimmiers 775	Posted - 2015.02.05 15:56:00 - [19] - Quote You can get 150 wp before you even see an enemy. Seems like a troll post made by an afklord.
Duke Noobiam The Dukes of Death 370	Posted - 2015.02.05 15:57:00 - [20] - Quote Evie Glass wrote: Ran few games with friends. got no skillpoints at end of game because we have low war points. whats point of playing now? I have a few questions for you. 1. How many lifetime SP do you have? This release included a change to allow new players to gain more SP for time in battle and vets to gain more SP for warpoints and less for time in battle. 2.We're you just trying to farm ISK and SP by just sitting in the MCC? If you are a vet I don't understand how you can get so little WPs if you are participating in the battle. I tend to believe you were just hoping to farm. 3.Do you really suck so much? Here are pointers for earning SP. - Hack objectives and installations. - Drop equipment (nanohives, uplinks). - revive and rep team-mates. - Shoot at opponents (you're bound to get some kills and assists). - Try destroying vehicles and installations.

Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1513	Posted - 2015.02.05 15:58:00 - [21] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: You're allowed to be bad at the game. Just don't expect to be rewarded for being bad at the game. Take this as a suggestion: Get better (use uplinks, injectors, repair tools, use a dropship or lav with a mobile cru in it, mass fire on enemies with something that you don't need to aim well like a mass driver). If you're getting below 150wp's you are not carrying your own weight, speaking as someone who regularly feels like I have to drag my team kicking and screaming to victory it ****ing sucks to have people who don't contribute as teammates. Here's a question: What are you doing in a match that you are consistently ending it with less than 150wp? Start a new character and show us how much ass you are kicking. Because, that's why.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 2508	Posted - 2015.02.05 15:58:00 - [22] - Quote Sounds like you were in a stomp. What mode were you playing? I recommend skirmish if your running heavy logi combo. Just a little advice, this game isnt fun by itself. You have to make it fun and steep learning curve doesn't help. Recon is an Art Anything you can do a NINJA* can do better* PSN Sil4ntChaozz/Protofits SilentChaozz
Duke Noobiam The Dukes of Death 370	Posted - 2015.02.05 16:02:00 - [23] - Quote Evie Glass wrote: uninstalled game now anyway. it was not fun before but at least when i did badly i got a small amount of skillpoints to make my character better. too many times i have games were enemy are using highest tier stuff and i cannot afford to buy it and so now i just get less chance of getting better. the skill point gap expands greater between myself and them. its a silly system. just because the charatcter is old im supposed to be super awesome and if im not i dont progress or progress very slowly. i took a break for several months because of unfair matchmaking. game isnt any better. perhaps i will try again in a few more months when i gain more passive skillpoints bye for now peoples What time do you normally play at? I'm on 20:30 to 23:00 EST most evenings. If you want help and play at those times send me an in game mail.
Lavallois Nash 475	Posted - 2015.02.05 16:02:00 - [24] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: You have a ground spawn. You have an MCC. This is what I mean by get better. Figure it out bud. Yeah with folks like you around its no wonder why we have such a small community. And as for getting better, maybe you better apply that ideology to your pitiful faction you take so much pride in. I stopped playing FW because your faction cant stand up to mine for more than 5 minutes, making it a boring match.
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance 854	Posted - 2015.02.05 16:05:00 - [25] - Quote Evie Glass wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: You're allowed to be bad at the game. Just don't expect to be rewarded for being bad at the game. Take this as a suggestion: Get better (use uplinks, injectors, repair tools, use a dropship or lav with a mobile cru in it, mass fire on enemies with something that you don't need to aim well like a mass driver). If you're getting below 150wp's you are not carrying your own weight, speaking as someone who regularly feels like I have to drag my team kicking and screaming to victory it ****ing sucks to have people who don't contribute as teammates. Here's a question: What are you doing in a match that you are consistently ending it with less than 150wp? were getting killed before we cant even move from spawning in. we were 2 logistics and 2 heavy suits but as soon as we spawn and try to put uplink down away from enemy team they found us and killed us and destroyed our uplinks. how are we supposed to 'get better' when we cant even earn skillpoints? several games its not just my squad but other players as well who have low warpoints and i guess are also not receiving skillpoints because of it YES. hahaha there it is guys! people trying to play the game but cant because protostompers? poor team balancing? some of the new maps dont even have ground spawns that the enemy cant walk into. they camped in their own ground spawns lol. there are people of all skill levels trying to enojy the universe of New Eden and simply cant. theres no place for them in dust when they cant even get SP for trying to stay alive. CCP f'd up again
Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 928	Posted - 2015.02.05 16:09:00 - [26] - Quote Yeah I did read it in the patch notes but it does suck you get nothing. How many lifetime SP's do you have? I wonder what the cut-off for a "veteran" is? Personally, if you start a match, just run to something and hack it, usually that's 50 points. Then for the rest of the match try and get 2 kills... but my personal feeling is noone wants you to stop playing, even if you're bad. You should be rewarded and the implementation of the minimum WP was mainly to prevent AFK's but this is just an unforeseen side effect so they might change it. I'd say throw down a spawn point at the beginning and you'll get your 150 points by the end. Stick with it, there'll probably be changes. -A
Evie Glass Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.02.05 16:10:00 - [27] - Quote Grimmiers wrote: You can get 150 wp before you even see an enemy. Seems like a troll post made by an afklord. im not only one getting low warpoints. several of the matches people from 8-10 place on leaderboards had less than 100-200 warpoints. game lasts around 5minutes and team clones are depleted
Evie Glass Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.02.05 16:15:00 - [28] - Quote Duke Noobiam wrote: Evie Glass wrote: Ran few games with friends. got no skillpoints at end of game because we have low war points. whats point of playing now? I have a few questions for you. 3. Are you really that bad? Here are pointers for earning SP. - Hack objectives and installations. - Drop equipment (nanohives, uplinks). - revive and rep team-mates. - Shoot at opponents (you're bound to get some kills and assists). - Try destroying vehicles and installations. yes i am haha i use a logistics because im not a very good first person shooter player so i use a medic to still contribute. i have some good games were i can get 2000 warpoints if i repair a good heavy suit but then there are times when i play with small squad or solo and i constantly die when i try to repair or place uplinks and ammo. before if i did badly i would still get skillpoints but more and more i face teams that kill al our teams clones in less than 5 minutes of the ambush timer
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2079	Posted - 2015.02.05 16:17:00 - [29] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Start a new character and show us how much ass you are kicking. I have four accounts. The lowest SP character is @10mil I've never had a problem with 'not being useful'. Lavallois Nash wrote: Yeah with folks like you around its no wonder why we have such a small community. And as for getting better, maybe you better apply that ideology to your pitiful faction you take so much pride in. I stopped playing FW because your faction cant stand up to mine for more than 5 minutes, making it a boring match. I cant fix facwar by myself. I have made proposals to ccp, zero matchmaking, queue-syncing and high-risk vs low reward has broken the game mode. I've done what I can to stop some of the secret club mentality and provide a public channel where those who actually want to play are able to go instead of just queueing solo and getting slaughtered. You are asking me to somehow come up with a solution for all solo players everywhere. Why don't you go join some public squadfinder groups and see just how bad the 'average' player is before demanding that someone else fix things. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Zene Ren Hired Ghost 127	Posted - 2015.02.05 16:26:00 - [30] - Quote that is what will be happening always when proto vets do not have their own match mode enabled and ready for them 24/7 looking at you timers on PC and more restriction towards "end game" content for skilled vets etc. one could say HTFU new eden is a harsh place we can not promote afk SP farming breaking the fun for active players, on the other side of the coin though you need to simply get some help from community, join some PUB channels and LFS (look for squad ) there and get better read some stuff how to fit and promote yourself as a dedicated logi within the game, there are corps that will need someone like you and reach you. all in all just don't be discouraged you still have passive SP and isk from match, the game should not hold your hand on every defeat IMO Balance is the key to achieve knowledge and understanding

Grimmiers 775	Posted - 2015.02.05 16:30:00 - [31] - Quote Evie Glass wrote: Grimmiers wrote: You can get 150 wp before you even see an enemy. Seems like a troll post made by an afklord. im not only one getting low warpoints. several of the matches people from 8-10 place on leaderboards had less than 100-200 warpoints. game lasts around 5minutes and team clones are depleted Oh I rarely play ambush. spawns are a mess there.
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 2948	Posted - 2015.02.05 16:30:00 - [32] - Quote Evie Glass wrote: uninstalled game now anyway. it was not fun before but at least when i did badly i got a small amount of skillpoints to make my character better. too many times i have games were enemy are using highest tier stuff and i cannot afford to buy it and so now i just get less chance of getting better. the skill point gap expands greater between myself and them. its a silly system. just because the charatcter is old im supposed to be super awesome and if im not i dont progress or progress very slowly. i took a break for several months because of unfair matchmaking. game isnt any better. perhaps i will try again in a few more months when i gain more passive skillpoints bye for now peoples heh heh heh... wow. Chess-like in it's manipulative subtlety. KDR matchmaking would patch all the patches into pure patchitudity.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3121	Posted - 2015.02.05 16:54:00 - [33] - Quote Here's a tip, don't play Ambush as that gamemode is utter crap and any other mode you can always reliably earn SP. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5792	Posted - 2015.02.05 17:00:00 - [34] - Quote Evie Glass wrote: im not only one getting low warpoints. several of the matches people from 8-10 place on leaderboards had less than 100-200 warpoints. game lasts around 5minutes and team clones are depleted Try Skirmish or Domination. :) It's very hard to not get 150 WP in either of those game modes. Ambush has a lot of issues, it can play out okay sometimes, and be utterly pointless at others. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
STYLIE77 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 421	Posted - 2015.02.05 17:02:00 - [35] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Evie Glass wrote: uninstalled game now anyway. it was not fun before but at least when i did badly i got a small amount of skillpoints to make my character better. too many times i have games were enemy are using highest tier stuff and i cannot afford to buy it and so now i just get less chance of getting better. the skill point gap expands greater between myself and them. its a silly system. just because the charatcter is old im supposed to be super awesome and if im not i dont progress or progress very slowly. i took a break for several months because of unfair matchmaking. game isnt any better. perhaps i will try again in a few more months when i gain more passive skillpoints bye for now peoples heh heh heh... wow. Chess-like in it's manipulative subtlety. Just played a match on a slot character. Went into a Domination, my team had 1/3 armor left and 50ish clones. I spawned in and killed one guy and got jumped by the redlining proto-squad. All forward uplinks were down, so I spawned ground and ran to the frontline and the match ended. I went 1-1 with 50wp. I was awarded 22,000 isk and 933sp. I will test this on an alt that is not sharing the Loyalty Rank Bonus. http://caughtyouflinching.ytmnd.com/
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6021	Posted - 2015.02.05 17:19:00 - [36] - Quote Hack 3 installations or more. It's not that hard, even if you're redlined.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 7637	Posted - 2015.02.05 17:22:00 - [37] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Hack 3 installations or more. It's not that hard, even if you're redlined. Laying a couple uplinks won't hurt either. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Ablerober Mass Defect Binding Energy 241	Posted - 2015.02.05 17:28:00 - [38] - Quote Evie Glass wrote: Ran few games with friends. got no skillpoints at end of game because we have low war points. whats point of playing now? Play domination or skirmish - these matches last longer and they aren't nearly as brutal as ambush which are only suited to certain types of individuals. If you are already playing domination or skirmish then other players on this thread have given you pretty good advice. Good luck.
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 1246	Posted - 2015.02.05 17:33:00 - [39] - Quote Evie Glass wrote: uninstalled game now anyway. it was not fun before but at least when i did badly i got a small amount of skillpoints to make my character better. too many times i have games were enemy are using highest tier stuff and i cannot afford to buy it and so now i just get less chance of getting better. the skill point gap expands greater between myself and them. its a silly system. just because the charatcter is old im supposed to be super awesome and if im not i dont progress or progress very slowly. i took a break for several months because of unfair matchmaking. game isnt any better. perhaps i will try again in a few more months when i gain more passive skillpoints bye for now peoples This entire thread is a troll post, clearly a vet's alt scamming for ISK. From the name, my guess is it's Dreis. He favors female names for added sympathy. I mean, "Evie Glass"? Dreis you owe me 50 million ISK for calling it. "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
Michael Epic Bragian Order Amarr Empire 426	Posted - 2015.02.05 17:34:00 - [40] - Quote Evie Glass wrote: Ran few games with friends. got no skillpoints at end of game because we have low war points. whats point of playing now? First off, that's ridiculous. 150 war points you're not even trying. That's why its there...to encourage you to try. You can; Hack objectives Hack installations Shoot people Use a rep tool Use a nanite injector Drop uplinks Drop nanohives Shoot LAV with Forge Gun Shoot Tank with Forge Gun Shoot Dropship with Forge Gun Use Swarm Launcher Do anything near objective Snipey Snipe with Sniper Rifle So yeah, if you aren't getting war points its because you are NOT TRYING and you're sitting around on your duff not doing squat! That's why you get no skill points! NO SKILL POINTS FOR YOU! I start every match in a runner setup loaded down with kin cats and I run like the devil to hack every installation I can find, I rock a proto AR on it too so I can usually pick off 1-2 raspberries before they kill me because I have no tank on that suit! I respawn in my tanked proto gear and go to work! - Gallente Logistics gk.0 x5 Complex Ferroscale Plates x3 Complex Shield Extenders Duvolle Assault Rifle Standard Flux Grenade F/45 Remote Explosives Remote Explosives Standard Nanite Injector BDR-8 Triage Repair Tool - So as you can see, not only do I slay with my AR but I can flux shields and I can flux tanks/LAV's (which you get war points for) and I set traps with remote explosives (which are an easy way to kill large numbers of raspberries at the same time) or load down a jihad jeep LAV (but I have a blueprint LAV so I can waste as many as I want) and I'm tanked to hell and back 967 EHP! I also stab fallen comrades when we AREN'T UNDER FIRE if I can and then I use my repair tool to triage them and if I see a heavy slaying with his HMG and his health is down, I latch on to him and rep him and get the guardian bonus! So without even trying I can rack up enough warpoints to earn skill points and isk...even if I'm just screwing around and being a jackass! So if I can do it, so can you.

Jathniel Ahrendee Mercenaries 1468	Posted - 2015.02.05 18:51:00 - [41] - Quote The SP changes were poorly thought out. Plain and simple. How many people were actually boosting? How many people actually know HOW to boost? A huge systemic change, for a problem that can easily be punished on an individual basis. What the hell is going on with this game? Are we suddenly doing things on a IDGAF-mode? Retired
Summa Militum Hidd3n Dragon 157	Posted - 2015.02.05 19:07:00 - [42] - Quote Evie Glass wrote: Ran few games with friends. got no skillpoints at end of game because we have low war points. whats point of playing now? If you don't earn at least 150 WP in a match then you won't get anything.
DootDoot Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 361	Posted - 2015.02.05 19:09:00 - [43] - Quote Evie Glass wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: You're allowed to be bad at the game. Just don't expect to be rewarded for being bad at the game. Take this as a suggestion: Get better (use uplinks, injectors, repair tools, use a dropship or lav with a mobile cru in it, mass fire on enemies with something that you don't need to aim well like a mass driver). If you're getting below 150wp's you are not carrying your own weight, speaking as someone who regularly feels like I have to drag my team kicking and screaming to victory it ****ing sucks to have people who don't contribute as teammates. Here's a question: What are you doing in a match that you are consistently ending it with less than 150wp? were getting killed before we cant even move from spawning in. we were 2 logistics and 2 heavy suits but as soon as we spawn and try to put uplink down away from enemy team they found us and killed us and destroyed our uplinks. how are we supposed to 'get better' when we cant even earn skillpoints? several games its not just my squad but other players as well who have low warpoints and i guess are also not receiving skillpoints because of it This is either an elaborate troll.. or... The Definition of insanity, "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" If you continue to go at a situation in the same manner and get negative results, it is time to think of a counter to at least be competitive. Have some Scout suits fitted for situations where standing off toe to toe with a large skilled enemy force with just 4 people in tanking and healing gear. If you got somewhat positive results? Sure I could understand the repetition in action.. but 150 points with a tank healer setup? Grab some Scout suits and a cloak for very minimal SP and go lay some uplinks and hack stuff behind the enemy's main group... You can play this game without even firing a bullet and contribute more then a slayer that went 20-4 against a stacked team.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 7640	Posted - 2015.02.05 19:25:00 - [44] - Quote Jathniel wrote: The SP changes were poorly thought out. Plain and simple. How many people were actually boosting? How many people actually know HOW to boost? A huge systemic change, for a problem that can easily be punished on an individual basis. What the hell is going on with this game? Are we suddenly doing things on a IDGAF-mode? I actually like the changes. I actually get rewarded for trying even when my team is losing now. Sometimes I can actually make ends meet while getting stomped, while the redline snipers get less benefit. Evie Glass wrote: were getting killed before we cant even move from spawning in. we were 2 logistics and 2 heavy suits but as soon as we spawn and try to put uplink down away from enemy team they found us and killed us and destroyed our uplinks. how are we supposed to 'get better' when we cant even earn skillpoints? several games its not just my squad but other players as well who have low warpoints and i guess are also not receiving skillpoints because of it Like someone else said, play Skirmish. Its much more Noob friendly. You don't have to worry about smart spawns, maps are larger and easier to get around. You can hack things and defend points etc. Maybe fit one of your Logi's with Dampeners and and Uplink, have them run around towards an empty objective, lay down your link, and have your whole team come in? I guarantee hacking it will bring some company, and you will have time to get entrenched and gain at least a few WP. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Evie Glass Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.02.05 19:41:00 - [45] - Quote DootDoot wrote: Evie Glass wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: You're allowed to be bad at the game. Just don't expect to be rewarded for being bad at the game. Take this as a suggestion: Get better (use uplinks, injectors, repair tools, use a dropship or lav with a mobile cru in it, mass fire on enemies with something that you don't need to aim well like a mass driver). If you're getting below 150wp's you are not carrying your own weight, speaking as someone who regularly feels like I have to drag my team kicking and screaming to victory it ****ing sucks to have people who don't contribute as teammates. Here's a question: What are you doing in a match that you are consistently ending it with less than 150wp? were getting killed before we cant even move from spawning in. we were 2 logistics and 2 heavy suits but as soon as we spawn and try to put uplink down away from enemy team they found us and killed us and destroyed our uplinks. how are we supposed to 'get better' when we cant even earn skillpoints? several games its not just my squad but other players as well who have low warpoints and i guess are also not receiving skillpoints because of it This is either an elaborate troll.. or... The Definition of insanity, "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" If you continue to go at a situation in the same manner and get negative results, it is time to think of a counter to at least be competitive. Have some Scout suits fitted for situations where standing off toe to toe with a large skilled enemy force with just 4 people in tanking and healing gear is not going well(Which would be often). If you got somewhat positive results? Sure I could understand the repetition in action.. but 150 points with a tank/ healer setup? Grab some Scout suits and a cloak for very minimal SP and go lay some uplinks and hack stuff behind the enemy's main group... You can play this game without even firing a bullet and contribute more then a slayer that went 20-4 against a stacked team. you dont really have much choice in the ambush mode. if there are no spawn points you have to take pot luck and the 'smart' deploy isnt very smart. i have said before that there are times i can get 2000 warpoints by being a medic i will follow a heavy or assault around and do what i can to contribute but i cannot always get into a squad because of time zone differences and so at times i get low warpoints. before it wasnt such an issue because i still got skillpoints even if it was a lower amount it was better than zero i play the other game modes from time to time but they dont pay out enough isk for me to afford to run my suits to play them consistently so i have to go into the ambush game mode where i get paid 100,000-200,000 isk a match. you have the stomp games and so many of the team end up with low or none warpoints. like i have said in a previous post it is not just me but many other of the players. sometimes half the team barely scrape with 150 warpoints and the person at top of our side only has 500 or so warpoints. if the matchmaking would have been better or the smart spawn worked then it wouldnt be too bad but the game is still not enjoyable to play for a casual player that isnt a great player but we shouldnt be excluded from a game because were not the best at it. people may want to be ignorant to the issue but that ignorance is what drives the new players away and in the chat channels i have i notice less and less people in them as they have become fed up of the game and how poorly it plays and these are players who have been here for 2 years. im sure many of the playerbase love the game so why be so ignorant to its faults and hostile to new/casual players. in time you will be the only people playing and so will just be going around being the kings of an empty castle. some people are not the best players but they should still be able to enjoy the game and not be halted in their progression by simple being told to 'get good' i enjoy the style of the game and have played on and off for about 18months but i have experienced nothing but bad matchmaking and continual losses that prevent me from using anything better than level 1 items and it is that which takes all the fun from the game and which is why i just uninstalled it again. there is nothing to keep me playing, i cant progress unless i 'get good' well truth is im an average player who has no delusions of his abilities and who has just gone back to playing the likes of destiny and call of duty where im not punished for being an 'average joe'
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 7643	Posted - 2015.02.05 20:26:00 - [46] - Quote Evie, if you know smart spawn doesn't work, then don't play ambush. There is no sense in getting mad at something you know exists but can avoid. I don't think I have heard one person who likes smart spawns, but many of those who do not, like myself, almost never play ambush. Save yourself the headache and play skirmish. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Sequal's Back Intara Direct Action Caldari State 243	Posted - 2015.02.05 20:31:00 - [47] - Quote Can't you even do 150WP??? You're not bad. You are TERRIBLE!!!! Rise? That's what they used to call me. Sequal Rise. That was my name. Now I come Back to you, at the turn of the tide.
TritusX PH4NT0M5 226	Posted - 2015.02.05 20:39:00 - [48] - Quote Evie Glass wrote: Duke Noobiam wrote: Evie Glass wrote: Ran few games with friends. got no skillpoints at end of game because we have low war points. whats point of playing now? I have a few questions for you. 3. Are you really that bad? Here are pointers for earning SP. - Hack objectives and installations. - Drop equipment (nanohives, uplinks). - revive and rep team-mates. - Shoot at opponents (you're bound to get some kills and assists). - Try destroying vehicles and installations. yes i am haha i use a logistics because im not a very good first person shooter player so i use a medic to still contribute. i have some good games were i can get 2000 warpoints if i repair a good heavy suit but then there are times when i play with small squad or solo and i constantly die when i try to repair or place uplinks and ammo. before if i did badly i would still get skillpoints but more and more i face teams that kill al our teams clones in less than 5 minutes of the ambush timer oooooooooooooooooooooooooo You're doing ambush. Leave it. Let 0uter.Heaven, Nyain San, 1.U.P, G0DS AM0NGST MEN, etc. stomp there. Get your squad over to skirmish, where the odds of facing these guys are less. Forced Death
Evie Glass Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.02.05 20:44:00 - [49] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Evie, if you know smart spawn doesn't work, then don't play ambush. There is no sense in getting mad at something you know exists but can avoid. I don't think I have heard one person who likes smart spawns, but many of those who do not, like myself, almost never play ambush. Save yourself the headache and play skirmish. it appears that people are quite the simpletons and not very good at understanding english. i mentioned in my last post that i play skirmish and domination as well but i dont earn enough money in them to buy even basic suits because i do quite poorly because as ive said before im not a great player and seeign as people dont seem to be able to understand that not everyone has the abilities i will clear up the reasoning behind me not being a great player below. Sequal's Back wrote: Can't you even do 150WP??? You're not bad. You are TERRIBLE!!!! yes it would appear ive mentioned this several times before. would you like a medal for pointing that out? to clear up why im a bad player. i have limited dexterity in my left hand due to a procedure when i was younger which resulted in me having a slight palsy in my left hand and face. telling me to 'get better' is something im not fully in control of. the reason i liked the concept of dust is purely because of the repair tool and the prospects that i didnt have to be as accurate or manouverable as in many games and could follow a heavy suit around with the repair tool and despite not being a brilliant player i could still contribute in my limited capabilities. does it suck? yes of course it does but i have managed so far but with the new update, when i have bad games im severely punished now by not receiving any skillpoints. in other games i may be limited in my actions but im also not held back because of how my restrictions limit me
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 7643	Posted - 2015.02.05 20:45:00 - [50] - Quote Run super cheap fits. What fits do you currently run? Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.

Pisidon Gmen Ivory Vanguard 54	Posted - 2015.02.05 20:49:00 - [51] - Quote yep stupid idea to stop players from sitting afk when all it takes is no deaths no points no sp or isk payout DONT PUNNISH PLAYERS who dont point up every match who are new if you are trying u die and maybe get some points if your afk u dont die or get points +no reward at all
Michael Epic Bragian Order Amarr Empire 434	Posted - 2015.02.05 20:51:00 - [52] - Quote @ OP Might have been good to open with "Hey, my hand is jacked up because of palsy and its hard for me to play! What can I do to get more than 150wp so I can gain skill points?" Would have gotten you a different reaction and a different thread.....intelligence, use it.
Evie Glass Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.02.05 20:53:00 - [53] - Quote Michael Epic wrote: @ OP Might have been good to open with "Hey, my hand is jacked up because of palsy and its hard for me to play! What can I do to get more than 150wp so I can gain skill points?" Would have gotten you a different reaction and a different thread.....intelligence, use it. why should it matter? its not stopped me from playing and progressing in other games and it hasn't done so in dust up until tuesday i know how to get warpoints. ive been a logistics player since i signed up. my issue is that since the patch tuesday if i have a string of bad games i dont earn skillpoints
Michael Epic Bragian Order Amarr Empire 434	Posted - 2015.02.05 20:56:00 - [54] - Quote Evie Glass wrote: Michael Epic wrote: @ OP Might have been good to open with "Hey, my hand is jacked up because of palsy and its hard for me to play! What can I do to get more than 150wp so I can gain skill points?" Would have gotten you a different reaction and a different thread.....intelligence, use it. why should it matter? its not stopped me from playing and progressing in other games and it hasn't done so in dust up until tuesday i know how to get warpoints. ive been a logistics player since i signed up. my issue is that since the patch tuesday if i have a string of bad games i dont earn skillpoints Yeah? Well now it has because AFK'ers ruin this game because they sit in the MCC with a rubber band on their controller. You can thank them for your frustration. Why should it matter? What do you mean why should it matter? I'm disabled vs I'm a f!cking moron will garner you different results...its called the english f!cking language, learn about it.
7 Djin The Hundred Acre Hood RISE of LEGION 37	Posted - 2015.02.05 21:01:00 - [55] - Quote Evie Glass wrote: Michael Epic wrote: @ OP Might have been good to open with "Hey, my hand is jacked up because of palsy and its hard for me to play! What can I do to get more than 150wp so I can gain skill points?" Would have gotten you a different reaction and a different thread.....intelligence, use it. why should it matter? its not stopped me from playing and progressing in other games and it hasn't done so in dust up until tuesday i know how to get warpoints. ive been a logistics player since i signed up. my issue is that since the patch tuesday if i have a string of bad games i dont earn skillpoints The only logical solution CCP has presented you with is to leave match if you know you're going to get lolstomped by protos and earn less than 150pts.
Flint Beastgood III Dead Man's Game RUST415 1435	Posted - 2015.02.05 21:03:00 - [56] - Quote Yokal Bob wrote: Did not think anything had changed in that aspect baffled It has, I assure you. If you are a vet, you need to perform, although it's not hard to get a better average SP reward for less than average performance now. As a vet, you get less SP per sec in battle now and more SP per WP, with the reverse for non-vets. This is actually proving much better for me in games where I don't do very well (under 1K WP), but this may be because I help the team in varying ways throughout each battle. And when I do well? Even better! I get SP amounts equal to what I'd get for exceptional performances before warlords. If I AKF? Not much over 500 SP. This is one thing they have done very well! I have yet to try out a noob account to see how it is for them but from a vet's perspective it's a good change. Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164
Michael Epic Bragian Order Amarr Empire 434	Posted - 2015.02.05 21:06:00 - [57] - Quote Flint Beastgood III wrote: Yokal Bob wrote: Did not think anything had changed in that aspect baffled It has, I assure you. If you are a vet, you need to perform, although it's not hard to get a better average SP reward for less than average performance now. As a vet, you get less SP per sec in battle now and more SP per WP, with the reverse for non-vets. This is actually proving much better for me in games where I don't do very well (under 1K WP), but this may be because I help the team in varying ways throughout each battle. And when I do well? Even better! I get SP amounts equal to what I'd get for exceptional performances before warlords. If I AKF? Not much over 500 SP. This is one thing they have done very well! I have yet to try out a noob account to see how it is for them but from a vet's perspective it's a good change. claps You're a gentleman and a scholar!
Flint Beastgood III Dead Man's Game RUST415 1435	Posted - 2015.02.05 21:11:00 - [58] - Quote Evie Glass wrote: reasons So, you're a logi? A logi that can't get 150 WP? Something's wrong here. Even before the update you would have to do better than that to make ends meet. So it can't be the system. Just for arguments sake, how much SP do you have? Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164
Flint Beastgood III Dead Man's Game RUST415 1435	Posted - 2015.02.05 21:12:00 - [59] - Quote Michael Epic wrote: Flint Beastgood III wrote: Yokal Bob wrote: Did not think anything had changed in that aspect baffled It has, I assure you. If you are a vet, you need to perform, although it's not hard to get a better average SP reward for less than average performance now. As a vet, you get less SP per sec in battle now and more SP per WP, with the reverse for non-vets. This is actually proving much better for me in games where I don't do very well (under 1K WP), but this may be because I help the team in varying ways throughout each battle. And when I do well? Even better! I get SP amounts equal to what I'd get for exceptional performances before warlords. If I AKF? Not much over 500 SP. This is one thing they have done very well! I have yet to try out a noob account to see how it is for them but from a vet's perspective it's a good change. claps You're a gentleman and a scholar! bows Thank you kind sir o7 Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164
7 Djin The Hundred Acre Hood RISE of LEGION 37	Posted - 2015.02.05 21:13:00 - [60] - Quote Michael Epic wrote: Flint Beastgood III wrote: Yokal Bob wrote: Did not think anything had changed in that aspect baffled It has, I assure you. If you are a vet, you need to perform, although it's not hard to get a better average SP reward for less than average performance now. As a vet, you get less SP per sec in battle now and more SP per WP, with the reverse for non-vets. This is actually proving much better for me in games where I don't do very well (under 1K WP), but this may be because I help the team in varying ways throughout each battle. And when I do well? Even better! I get SP amounts equal to what I'd get for exceptional performances before warlords. If I AKF? Not much over 500 SP. This is one thing they have done very well! I have yet to try out a noob account to see how it is for them but from a vet's perspective it's a good change. claps You're a gentleman and a scholar! I see your perspective but maybe rather than a hard cap at 150wp we still award 300sp or something for our friends who also play this game differently than you.

Flint Beastgood III Dead Man's Game RUST415 1435	Posted - 2015.02.05 21:18:00 - [61] - Quote 7 Djin wrote: Michael Epic wrote: Flint Beastgood III wrote: Yokal Bob wrote: Did not think anything had changed in that aspect baffled It has, I assure you. If you are a vet, you need to perform, although it's not hard to get a better average SP reward for less than average performance now. As a vet, you get less SP per sec in battle now and more SP per WP, with the reverse for non-vets. This is actually proving much better for me in games where I don't do very well (under 1K WP), but this may be because I help the team in varying ways throughout each battle. And when I do well? Even better! I get SP amounts equal to what I'd get for exceptional performances before warlords. If I AKF? Not much over 500 SP. This is one thing they have done very well! I have yet to try out a noob account to see how it is for them but from a vet's perspective it's a good change. claps You're a gentleman and a scholar! I see your perspective but maybe rather than a hard cap at 150wp we still award 300sp or something for our friends who also play this game differently than you. I was waiting for a reply as to how much his lifetime SP is, because the WP minimum is for vets. I want to make sure CCP have set the "vet" SP high enough (character age is not a good idea), which, given the current weekly cap, needs to be really high now - noobs could have like 15-20mil! Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164
7th Son 7 BLITZKRIEG7 448	Posted - 2015.02.05 21:24:00 - [62] - Quote Flint Beastgood III wrote: 7 Djin wrote: Michael Epic wrote: Flint Beastgood III wrote: Yokal Bob wrote: Did not think anything had changed in that aspect baffled It has, I assure you. If you are a vet, you need to perform, although it's not hard to get a better average SP reward for less than average performance now. As a vet, you get less SP per sec in battle now and more SP per WP, with the reverse for non-vets. This is actually proving much better for me in games where I don't do very well (under 1K WP), but this may be because I help the team in varying ways throughout each battle. And when I do well? Even better! I get SP amounts equal to what I'd get for exceptional performances before warlords. If I AKF? Not much over 500 SP. This is one thing they have done very well! I have yet to try out a noob account to see how it is for them but from a vet's perspective it's a good change. claps You're a gentleman and a scholar! I see your perspective but maybe rather than a hard cap at 150wp we still award 300sp or something for our friends who also play this game differently than you. I was waiting for a reply as to how much his lifetime SP is, because the WP minimum is for vets. I want to make sure CCP have set the "vet" SP high enough (character age is not a good idea), which, given the current weekly cap, needs to be really high now - noobs could have like 15-20mil! If someone has 20mil SP and their still a noob, their probably just an idiot Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
Nirwanda Vaughns 1350	Posted - 2015.02.05 21:32:00 - [63] - Quote Michael Epic wrote: Evie Glass wrote: Michael Epic wrote: @ OP Might have been good to open with "Hey, my hand is jacked up because of palsy and its hard for me to play! What can I do to get more than 150wp so I can gain skill points?" Would have gotten you a different reaction and a different thread.....intelligence, use it. why should it matter? its not stopped me from playing and progressing in other games and it hasn't done so in dust up until tuesday i know how to get warpoints. ive been a logistics player since i signed up. my issue is that since the patch tuesday if i have a string of bad games i dont earn skillpoints Yeah? Well now it has because AFK'ers ruin this game because they sit in the MCC with a rubber band on their controller. You can thank them for your frustration. Why should it matter? What do you mean why should it matter? I'm disabled vs I'm a f!cking moron will garner you different results...its called the english f!cking language, learn about it. i think he/she means why should they mention they're disabled, can we not just accept some players might not be all powerful die hard gamers with no life sat in their moms basement? sure AFK'ers have brought it on but i know a couple of 50m sp guys who got stomped earlier and didn't earn any SP just because some tryhards on the other side need to over compensate for havign a small winky. the OP doesn't seem too much of a moron, from readign the posts he/she has experience as a logi but like the rest of us comes up against proto stompers and is disgruntled they no longer get SP when they have a st game. the minimum WP thing is just a lazy attempt to curb AFK'ers when CCP shoudl perhaps be lookign at why peopel would rather AFK than play the game. from most posts on the forums the main cause is proto stomping forces makes pepel rathe rjust sit int he MCC than play because the game becomes dull to play when you die 30 times a match. i've still seen AFK'ers so its done jack st to stop it and just punishes players that have bad games due to CCPs own inability to code a game properly Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
killian178 Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 112	Posted - 2015.02.05 21:32:00 - [64] - Quote Evie Glass wrote: Duke Noobiam wrote: Evie Glass wrote: Ran few games with friends. got no skillpoints at end of game because we have low war points. whats point of playing now? I have a few questions for you. 3. Are you really that bad? Here are pointers for earning SP. - Hack objectives and installations. - Drop equipment (nanohives, uplinks). - revive and rep team-mates. - Shoot at opponents (you're bound to get some kills and assists). - Try destroying vehicles and installations. yes i am haha i use a logistics because im not a very good first person shooter player so i use a medic to still contribute. i have some good games were i can get 2000 warpoints if i repair a good heavy suit but then there are times when i play with small squad or solo and i constantly die when i try to repair or place uplinks and ammo. before if i did badly i would still get skillpoints but more and more i face teams that kill al our teams clones in less than 5 minutes of the ambush timer Dont play ambush unless your in a squad, skirm is better for solo, get an lav, hack three insallations or kill 1 tank. Youll be golden Every commando k.o, every weapon at adv or above. Don't give a damn bout my kdr, I will kill you.
castba Rogue Instincts 747	Posted - 2015.02.05 21:36:00 - [65] - Quote Evie Glass wrote: Grimmiers wrote: You can get 150 wp before you even see an enemy. Seems like a troll post made by an afklord. im not only one getting low warpoints. several of the matches people from 8-10 place on leaderboards had less than 100-200 warpoints. game lasts around 5minutes and team clones are depleted Don't play ambush then. There are two other game modes, use them. "When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
xavier zor Rogue Instincts 561	Posted - 2015.02.05 21:42:00 - [66] - Quote Evie Glass wrote: Makuta Miserix wrote: How low were your WP's? between 0-150 warpoints. lot of the team from 9 place down were same. think one my squad got skillpoints HAHAHHAHA LOL Maybe you should ACTUALLY help your team??? looking for PC corporation also looking for lonely heavies to knife >:) heavies looking for me
Yonkou Ifrit 0uter.Heaven 398	Posted - 2015.02.05 21:58:00 - [67] - Quote Cheap logi fit for ambush: Standar min logi with 2 basic shield extenders 1 basic plate 1 basic rep armor, six kin rep tool, advanced uplink and basic injector once you start battle drop the uplink and aim your rep tool, every time you die deploy and repeat the process, drop uplink and aim rep tool and if can can revive some mercs. PUBCHAT: Organizacion Letal
Raiden246 State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 12	Posted - 2015.02.05 22:06:00 - [68] - Quote Less than 150 warpoints is REALLY bad. Seriously, I get that at the beginning of matches by hacking installations, even if it's a match where I get stomped.
Raiden246 State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 12	Posted - 2015.02.05 22:19:00 - [69] - Quote Evie Glass wrote: yes it would appear ive mentioned this several times before. would you like a medal for pointing that out? to clear up why im a bad player. i have limited dexterity in my left hand due to a procedure when i was younger which resulted in me having a slight palsy in my left hand and face. telling me to 'get better' is something im not fully in control of. the reason i liked the concept of dust is purely because of the repair tool and the prospects that i didnt have to be as accurate or manouverable as in many games and could follow a heavy suit around with the repair tool and despite not being a brilliant player i could still contribute in my limited capabilities. does it suck? yes of course it does but i have managed so far but with the new update, when i have bad games im severely punished now by not receiving any skillpoints. in other games i may be limited in my actions but im also not held back because of how my restrictions limit me Simply put, that tactic is not going to work. The first thing a smarter player will go for is the logi when they see a logi and a heavy. Also, maneuverability is key, that or stealth. Accuracy.. you'll need that too. But it's okay, because aiming is done with the Right analog stick!
Makuta Miserix DOD - Fringe Division 352	Posted - 2015.02.05 22:31:00 - [70] - Quote Raiden246 wrote: Evie Glass wrote: yes it would appear ive mentioned this several times before. would you like a medal for pointing that out? to clear up why im a bad player. i have limited dexterity in my left hand due to a procedure when i was younger which resulted in me having a slight palsy in my left hand and face. telling me to 'get better' is something im not fully in control of. the reason i liked the concept of dust is purely because of the repair tool and the prospects that i didnt have to be as accurate or manouverable as in many games and could follow a heavy suit around with the repair tool and despite not being a brilliant player i could still contribute in my limited capabilities. does it suck? yes of course it does but i have managed so far but with the new update, when i have bad games im severely punished now by not receiving any skillpoints. in other games i may be limited in my actions but im also not held back because of how my restrictions limit me But it's okay, because aiming is done with the Right analog stick! Perhaps you have forgotten that left handed people exist. CEO of DOD - Fringe Division. Please don't break the universe. Thank you for your cooperation. Private Beta Veteran.

MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2097	Posted - 2015.02.05 22:32:00 - [71] - Quote As a disclaimer I didn't mean 'get better' to be derogatory, I meant it as a 'be a better player, stop hurling yourself at the wall placed in your path, use your brain for a second and walk around the damn wall'. I am sorry to hear that you have a physical disadvantage. If you're invested in fps games and have a computer I'd recommend MechWarrior online, they even allow macro'd controllers and keyboards it might be more to your pace. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2474	Posted - 2015.02.05 23:26:00 - [72] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: You're allowed to be bad at the game. Just don't expect to be rewarded for being bad at the game. Take this as a suggestion: Get better (use uplinks, injectors, repair tools, use a dropship or lav with a mobile cru in it, mass fire on enemies with something that you don't need to aim well like a mass driver). If you're getting below 150wp's you are not carrying your own weight, speaking as someone who regularly feels like I have to drag my team kicking and screaming to victory it ***ing sucks to have people who don't contribute as teammates. Here's a question: What are you doing in a match that you are consistently ending it with less than 150wp? Start a new character and show us how much ass you are kicking. Mina would be earning thousands of sp per match right from the start with a brand new toon. Players can even adopt a low risk playstyle and earn thousands of sp per match. First pro hint: put down uplinks second pro hint: spawn away from the enemy third pro hint: try to stay out of sight fourth pro hint: don't run in straight lines, run like a drunk fifth pro hint: only engage the enemy when they're already engaged with somebody else sixth pro hint: run away whenever you see more than one enemy coming seventh pro hint: never stand still, even when you're not going anywhere dance around like a merc who really* needs a pee. Those behaviors will pretty much guarantee you 1000 sp a match. PSN: RationalSpark
Raiden246 State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 12	Posted - 2015.02.05 23:28:00 - [73] - Quote Makuta Miserix wrote: Raiden246 wrote: Evie Glass wrote: yes it would appear ive mentioned this several times before. would you like a medal for pointing that out? to clear up why im a bad player. i have limited dexterity in my left hand due to a procedure when i was younger which resulted in me having a slight palsy in my left hand and face. telling me to 'get better' is something im not fully in control of. the reason i liked the concept of dust is purely because of the repair tool and the prospects that i didnt have to be as accurate or manouverable as in many games and could follow a heavy suit around with the repair tool and despite not being a brilliant player i could still contribute in my limited capabilities. does it suck? yes of course it does but i have managed so far but with the new update, when i have bad games im severely punished now by not receiving any skillpoints. in other games i may be limited in my actions but im also not held back because of how my restrictions limit me But it's okay, because aiming is done with the Right analog stick! Perhaps you have forgotten that left handed people exist. That doesn't change the game controls.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 3131	Posted - 2015.02.06 00:10:00 - [74] - Quote I cant seriously believe people are defending this 'new mechanic' if it really is punishing newer / bad players with pitiful payouts. This will be the absolute nail in the coffin if this is how things are for the more casual players. Not only that, even reasonable players will be tested when the non existent 'match making' puts your scrub squad up against a team of co-ordinated proto squads. Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet 138	Posted - 2015.02.06 00:43:00 - [75] - Quote Luk Manag wrote: It was in the patch notes. Veterans need to get WP for SP because the participation rewards are for new players who get less for WP than a high SP player. It is unfairly weighed to favor the logi, because an average "slayer" with only a few kills will receive a tiny ISK/SP payout. SP payout for 20+ kills is pretty decent. If that's the case all I would say I pike ius it may benefit new players.


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