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Joel II X
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Posted - 2015.02.05 00:34:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:Vesta Opalus wrote:Is there any chance we can work out a way to prevent every suit that isnt a scout from being subjected to permascans in any game where some **** eating chode decides that instead of playing the game he'd rather sit at a supply depot abusing the **** out of scanners all game, or some guy who likes to run 4 scanners on his logi?
Maybe make it so depots dont reset scanner cooldowns?
Maybe add in scan immunity after being scanned where you are scan immune for X seconds after being hit by an active scanner? I like my frames how I like my women. Damp, silent, fast, and scrubby. Too much info? Or just right?
Not enough info. |
Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
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Posted - 2015.02.05 05:04:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:
But if the galogi is using this scanner they are certainly not perma scanned.
I'm just thankful that the Gal Logi can still do that since they raped it out of being able to scan down Scouts reliably.
Vulpes Dolosus wrote:
And yet when I run a ~300-450hp PROTO Cal scout dedicated to scanning (using 2-4 of my MAXIMUM 6 available slots for ewar mods) and costs over 5mil SP of an investment, everyone loses their sh*t and some how that's OP. Having severely lacking scans compared to the above and only sharing those scans with squad mates in the vicinity is some how abhorrent enough to essential wipe it from use, while this is praised as "good tactics, emergent gameplayGäó, etc."
I'm just asking you guys have a little perspective and consistency with your arguments.
When your passive 360 scans have a 30 second cooldown between uses, lemme know.
Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department?
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All Gucci
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.05 05:22:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote:Vesta Opalus wrote:hold that wrote:Vesta Opalus wrote:punksnowmash wrote:One word. Dampeners. Pro tip, only scouts can avoid all scans. Like I said in the OP, everyone else can be permascanned, and it makes for boring matches. yeah man squads of cloaked sg re scouts going 40-8 make for exciting matches If you're being sarcastic, Im not sure why, since the gist of my post is that it results in boring gameplay and isnt very fun for anyone but scouts. Or 75/11 as I had the pleasure to watch a Third Rock member go with a scout using REs only - a mere 36 hours ago.
okay?.....that was one member, wasn't your complaint about squads of them? try to be consistent little imp .. you people with scanners never move a step without scanning an area.... you aren't slayers you are opportunist  you run away at the first sight of danger but you feel brave when you see a MLT suit lmao 
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Archduke Ferd1nand
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.02.05 05:51:00 -
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The sad part is, it just isn't viable to dampen in any competitive matches if you're an assault or logi.
Gal Logi precision bonus nullifies you.
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.05 06:05:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:i only have a problem with gal logis with impossible to escape scans.
Gal Logi scans everything except dampened scouts. Tis fair.
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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Vesta Opalus
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.05 18:28:00 -
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Archduke Ferd1nand wrote:The sad part is, it just isn't viable to dampen in any competitive matches if you're an assault or logi.
Gal Logi precision bonus nullifies you.
This.
I was thinking maybe if the active scans only propagated to the TACNET of people within a certain range of the logi that might do something (especially in regards to supply depot ballet scanning).
Whats GD think of that? |
RayRay James
State of Purgatory
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.05 18:52:00 -
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Archduke Ferd1nand wrote:The sad part is, it just isn't viable to dampen in any competitive matches if you're an assault or logi.
Gal Logi precision bonus nullifies you.
You know whats funny?
In almost all of my daily matches, I run a bluepring SEVR logi suit. It has no modules on it to reduce scan profile. I have my cores at 5, so that should make my profile -45Db.
There are so many people out there using militia scanners that I see SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED anearly as often as I see YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED.
Now, sure, when I'm in PC I get scanned all the time. I expect to, so I don't care when it happens. The scanner doesnt know if I'm a logi, a scout or a heavy just that I'm there. My PC suit has 2 precision enhancers, which get's that logi suit to a precision of -27Db and a 13M range ( i think it's 13M) anyways, even if a scout tries to run in behind me, I have a few seconds that he's on my tacnet so long as he's not completely damped. I kill a lot of shotgun scouts in that suit, even when they do scan me first.
Stop worrying about active scanners so much. They DO NOT give you enough detail to know if you can win a fight or even what you're up against. They can only show you the amount of people in front of you, and while that can be important, it's not the key to winning a fight. |
Vesta Opalus
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.05 18:57:00 -
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RayRay James wrote:Archduke Ferd1nand wrote:The sad part is, it just isn't viable to dampen in any competitive matches if you're an assault or logi.
Gal Logi precision bonus nullifies you. You know whats funny? In almost all of my daily matches, I run a bluepring SEVR logi suit. It has no modules on it to reduce scan profile. I have my cores at 5, so that should make my profile -45Db. There are so many people out there using militia scanners that I see SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED anearly as often as I see YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED. Now, sure, when I'm in PC I get scanned all the time. I expect to, so I don't care when it happens. The scanner doesnt know if I'm a logi, a scout or a heavy just that I'm there. My PC suit has 2 precision enhancers, which get's that logi suit to a precision of -27Db and a 13M range ( i think it's 13M) anyways, even if a scout tries to run in behind me, I have a few seconds that he's on my tacnet so long as he's not completely damped. I kill a lot of shotgun scouts in that suit, even when they do scan me first. Stop worrying about active scanners so much. They DO NOT give you enough detail to know if you can win a fight or even what you're up against. They can only show you the amount of people in front of you, and while that can be important, it's not the key to winning a fight.
Oh ok, when Im flanking around to try to accomplish something in a protostomp and I get scanned and instantly people start running after me and sniping me I didnt know all I needed to do was stop worrying about it. My bad. Ill try that next time. |
Funkmaster Whale
Whale Pod
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Posted - 2015.02.05 18:58:00 -
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I wish there was an active way to counter scans. We have passive and active scanning, but only passive jamming. There needs to be a radar jammer equipment with a similar 30s CD or whatever that scrambles all scans in X radius for Y duration.
Something like that would finally give my Assault a worthwhile equipment to use that isn't Nanohives.
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Vesta Opalus
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.05 19:02:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:I wish there was an active way to counter scans. We have passive and active scanning, but only passive jamming. There needs to be a radar jammer equipment with a similar 30s CD or whatever that scrambles all scans in X radius for Y duration.
Something like that would finally give my Assault a worthwhile equipment to use that isn't Nanohives.
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Funkmaster Whale
Whale Pod
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Posted - 2015.02.05 19:07:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:I wish there was an active way to counter scans. We have passive and active scanning, but only passive jamming. There needs to be a radar jammer equipment with a similar 30s CD or whatever that scrambles all scans in X radius for Y duration.
Something like that would finally give my Assault a worthwhile equipment to use that isn't Nanohives. Mite b cool
It would help a bit with the Ambush steamrolls you see so often.
After the scan changes, it's become so easy for teams to just zerg the red dot swarm while permascans light up everyone on the field. Scanning is so incredibly stupid right now. There need to be more counterplay options for it besides "Oh just waste all your low slots on dampeners!"
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.06 03:02:00 -
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All Gucci wrote:Imp Smash wrote:Vesta Opalus wrote:hold that wrote:Vesta Opalus wrote:
Pro tip, only scouts can avoid all scans.
Like I said in the OP, everyone else can be permascanned, and it makes for boring matches.
yeah man squads of cloaked sg re scouts going 40-8 make for exciting matches If you're being sarcastic, Im not sure why, since the gist of my post is that it results in boring gameplay and isnt very fun for anyone but scouts. Or 75/11 as I had the pleasure to watch a Third Rock member go with a scout using REs only - a mere 36 hours ago. okay?.....that was one member, wasn't your complaint about squads of them? try to be consistent little imp .. you people with scanners never move a step without scanning an area.... you aren't slayers you are opportunist you run away at the first sight of danger but you feel brave when you see a MLT suit lmao
No. Another poster complained about squads of scouts. Although squads of scouts are like squads of heavies -- a symptom of a problem.
I have no complaint with your guild member. I could care less about, as the guy above me said, "squads of scouts."
I have a complaint with CCP that your guild member (and in fact any scout) can get away with running into a room of 3 heavies, 2 logis, and on occasion 2 or 3 others, dropping a remote, and making it out the other door and blowing everyone to hell without even losing their shields. Over, and over and over. Not having to stick around to fight is ridiculous. It's only moderately less dangerous, yet significantly more rewarding than camping on an MCC. The fact that so many people can and do do it says 1 thing.
It's easy. Anyone can. It's not that some scouts are talented, properly fit, have practiced, are skilled, have experience, or anything like that. If there were some die hards in the game that could do it -- I would applaud them. The fact that anyone can and does says this means that the skill required is not matched between roles. It takes (incoming made up numbers for analogy) on a scale of 1 to 10
3 skill wise to reap tons and tons of kills. Yet a skill of 8 to defend against it. 9 to replicated it with a different role.
GTFO with that.
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