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bathtubist
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2015.02.03 06:32:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Kill 20 proto suits, but you come in 4th on the list? Enjoy your 180k
Fix this, you should get a cut of what you kill, not this "spread it all out amongst all the payers, but the top 3 get all of your kill money" Heal your blueberrys and squadmates destroy equipment and drop links
more to the payout than just killing the team |
Imp Smash
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
612
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Posted - 2015.02.03 06:32:00 -
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I agree with the OP. As it stands, the VAST MAJORITY of ISK gained in a match is based on WP. Some jobs are low WP. Hell, when I'm in my Cal Sent and defending an obj -- see 6-8 guys the whole match -- guess what my payout is <.<
Being a team player doesn't get ya paid unless you are spamming uplinks or whoring the reptool. The other battlefield roles need better SP rewards. |
Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
326
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Posted - 2015.02.03 07:25:00 -
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To talk like a real New Eden player: Dont complain, adapt!
Do it like everyone else and dont even try, drop 3 uplinks, then go sniping.
Yeah, playing ISK-efficient feels like ****, doesnt it?!
I am beyond that, I go waste my protos till I'm broke. **** ISK efficiency, go fun!
The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always.
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Casual solo
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Back and Forth
7087
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Posted - 2015.02.03 07:31:00 -
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the pay out system is unfair CCP Rouge is in there standing at the concession plotting his oppression
F*ck these civil discussion, get the pickets signs lets start protesting...
CBM
EVE, Dust & Corp Services
Buying Dead & Inactive Corps
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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
142
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Posted - 2015.02.03 07:38:00 -
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Alex-ZX wrote:Big miku wrote:Kill 20 proto suits, but you come in 4th on the list? Enjoy your 180k
Fix this, you should get a cut of what you kill, not this "spread it all out amongst all the payers, but the top 3 get all of your kill money" In Rattati's board there's something interesting about payouts. It says u earn the amount of isk that u destroyed. (Plz correct me if I'm wrong) in my opinion is pretty good and fair.
I have trouble believing that to be true. If I play a match and take out 25 people and place first on my team, assuming the 25 clones I took out cost an unbelievably cheap 25,000 ISK, I will come no where close to earning 600,000+ ISK in that match.
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taxi bastard
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
383
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Posted - 2015.02.03 08:36:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Kill 20 proto suits, but you come in 4th on the list? Enjoy your 180k
Fix this, you should get a cut of what you kill, not this "spread it all out amongst all the payers, but the top 3 get all of your kill money"
i have been saying for a while - my veiw was 30% of what you kill goes to you and 70% to the kitty. that should include vehicle kills. |
Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Mercenaries
798
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Posted - 2015.02.03 09:30:00 -
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wp gets u the most isk and sp. and i know for a fact you didnt kill 20 protos. i can kill 30 adv suits and make 500k in a pub. dust is a lot of things, good and bad. but one thing about it is its consistent. if u killed 20 proto suits thats all u did and nothing else, and chances are those suits were fit with lower tier modules.
LogicGäó
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al nize mk2
No Skillz inc.
280
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Posted - 2015.02.03 09:55:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Kill 20 proto suits, but you come in 4th on the list? Enjoy your 180k
Fix this, you should get a cut of what you kill, not this "spread it all out amongst all the payers, but the top 3 get all of your kill money"
We all want more money. And bear in mind that plenty of losing teams have mercs with 20/0 on their side.
At the end of the day - Winning is more important than your personal stats.
GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
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norttheantiv
The Rainbow Effect
123
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Posted - 2015.02.03 10:17:00 -
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I am hoping that the pay will be adjusted to reflect the ISK destroyed by individuals rather than being so based on an arbitrary division of the full amount among 16.
As someone who regularly goes on the hunt for 'that redline gunlogi', I think that the time that this takes should be rewarded.
Logi's should be slaying at an only slightly reduced level to the other suits so I don't really see the issue.
Chubby chasers who go 0/9 with 2k WP and then complain about pay outs need to realise that logi's should not be going negative. Being a drain on your teams clones is not really acceptable in pubs ever. Pull out your gun and skill some rephives. They are far more useful in pubs.
Winner EU Squad Cup
Go Go Power Rangers!
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game RUST415
781
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Posted - 2015.02.03 10:19:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:
As much as I dislike the easy spam of rep-tools, you forget the other useful things a logi does.
Against people who know what they're doing, the Logi will be the first target. If they don't stop the reps, the slayer isn't going to die. This distractions both helps the slayer & causes the logi to try and position to stay alive, without just running with their tail between their legs and letting the slayer get whooped.
Reviving dead team-mates saves the team clones and requires a lot more planning than using a rep-tool... Also saves slayer some isk.
Without the logi's ammo drops and spawn points, your team is going to have to run back and forth between CRUs and Depos when spawning or needing ammo, which leads to the team falling behind, which leads to you getting no help with those 30 kills.
Slayers don't need logis to slay. They rely on themselves.
Don't forget that other suits have eqiupment slot[s] too. And if we're talking about pubs [cause thread is about pub payouts] then i got to say that scouts do provide better uplinks than logis. And when slayers use Allotek [R] hives or scanner then they really don't need much help.
Loyal to State. Led by Tibus Heth.
Not scared of death [like Admiral Yakiya Tobil-Toba].
Honour and Mission over money
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al nize mk2
No Skillz inc.
284
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Posted - 2015.02.03 10:20:00 -
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norttheantiv wrote: Chubby chasers who go 0/9 with 2k WP and then complain about pay outs need to realise that logi's should not be going negative. Being a drain on your teams clones is not really acceptable in pubs ever. Pull out your gun and skill some rephives. They are far more useful in pubs.
chubby chasers... lolz
GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
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Flint Beastgood III
Dead Man's Game RUST415
1349
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Posted - 2015.02.03 11:44:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:DRT 99 wrote:xavier zor wrote:What isn't right is how logi's get 500k payouts and all they do is follow you around with a rep tool. I go 30/0 and get 301k ISK. I do the work, the slaying and tell my logi when to retreat and when to advance. All he does is follow me.
THAT isn't right Why do you think you went 30 / 0 if not for the logis? Also, not all logis are content to follow around a heavy. Some of us aspire to more than simple minded chubby chasing. I would have not went 30/0, but lower because i would have used a suit with armor reps. My point is logi's are rewarded for showing no skill other than following his slayer around holding R1.
Meh, when I logi I do it ALL, including slaying, so you speak for a few (nooby/lazy-farmer) logis.
Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164
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