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Sir Petersen wrote:

TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:

Sir Petersen wrote:

TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:

maybe try taking points that way they can spawn there instead

What are you talking about. This is what people are already trying to do when playing skrim or dom.

The game took a huge leap backwards when the uplink was nerfed to pieces. I-¦m finding it hard to believe there is a single experienced gamer out there who does not agree with me. Common.. The game has turned into marathon man unless we have an organized squad with experience working together.

The gameplay is tragic at the moment and something has to be done.

because my MCRU got indirectly buffed now with less droplink spam. that's why i cant support it's return because i'm no longer competing with those spawn points.

"unless we have an organized squad" that's kind of the point.. dropship is no longer a novelty pinata my grimness actually serves a pupose now that players are forced to seek other spawning/transport options which in turn made the game funner for me. maybe they should allow EQ spam in 1 game mode to keep both sides happy but keep it out of skirm because skirm is setup for team play.

Do you know how many gamers are running out there solo? Have you got a clue??

Be careful what you wish for. If things go on like this you won-¦t have anyone to play against anymore. This game can not afford to lose a whole clan of Dust gamers. This is exactly what happened when they killed of the Drop-Uplink Scout.

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Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1104	Posted - 2015.01.25 16:12:00 - [1] - Quote Since the Drop-Uplink was nerfed to nothing. Not only did CCP kill off a clan of gamers but also made the gameplay more uneven than ever before. It is just silly to see what-¦s going on out there on the battlefield at the moment and I-¦m finding it difficult to enjoy it anymore. Thoughts?
Golden Day Heaven's Lost Property 925	Posted - 2015.01.25 16:14:00 - [2] - Quote Run with a squad of GOOD players and you will survive m not crazy......( -í° -£-û -í°)
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1104	Posted - 2015.01.25 16:19:00 - [3] - Quote Golden Day wrote: Run with a squad of GOOD players and you will survive I-¦m a beta player and pretty good at surviving. This has nothing to do with that.. Don-¦t really care if I win or lose but having a good match makes the world of difference to me. I also love shooting against quality gamers. My uplinks helped out the blueberries more than anything on the battlefield. The best when facing tough opponents. Now nothing is going on.. :/
OliX PRZESMIEWCA Academy Inferno E-R-A 252	Posted - 2015.01.25 16:30:00 - [4] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: Golden Day wrote: Run with a squad of GOOD players and you will survive I-¦m a beta player and pretty good at surviving. This has nothing to do with that.. Don-¦t really care if I win or lose but having a good match makes the world of difference to me. I also love shooting against quality gamers. My uplinks helped out the blueberries more than anything on the battlefield. The best when facing tough opponents. Now nothing is going on.. :/ Sometimes I feel same way. When I didn't had full squad and we played against one or two organised squads, sometimes my uplinks made difference for those blue dots. Sometimes even if we were almost cloned out there was a small chance to use tactic and sacrifice of blueberries to win that battle.
DDx77 The Exemplars RISE of LEGION 94	Posted - 2015.01.25 16:33:00 - [5] - Quote I was just going to make a post about my overall opinion of this latest update ( which is poor btw) I agree that after the introduction of bandwidth there have been far too many one sided and really boring matches I think this is a odd and unexpected result of this feature
Yokal Bob Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance 705	Posted - 2015.01.25 16:42:00 - [6] - Quote i want the old days back :( /{o.o}/ ---L Inflatable hammer strikes again
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1562	Posted - 2015.01.25 16:55:00 - [7] - Quote maybe try taking points that way they can spawn there instead AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1736	Posted - 2015.01.25 17:33:00 - [8] - Quote If it were only always as easy as you make it sound . Don't think we want easy anyway just stop implementing mechanics that hurt solo play . You know that is an option .?. and always should be . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2925	Posted - 2015.01.25 17:37:00 - [9] - Quote Yokal Bob wrote: i want the old days back :( Which ones specifically? I've been here since the very start and I have to say the current iteration while missing some old features that were fun is overall substantially better then the days of old. Having to reboot every three matches is not something I'll ever miss, nor those lag-stairs-of-death in the BioMass Installation map of old. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5876	Posted - 2015.01.25 17:42:00 - [10] - Quote It highlighted that there is a huge problem with solo players and the lack of incentive to win. The playerbase has rubbed off on me. If I'm not in a squad I couldnt give two fucks if we win. This is an incentive problem. I think the equipment stuff is in a good place. Joining pubs is a lottery of randoms, sometimes you get a mix of randoms that adds up to somewhat of a contribution and sometimes you end up with 5 tanks on a city map. I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 4 remaining. 175 mil ISK. Message me in game.

Kierkegaard Soren Eridani Light Horse Striker 660	Posted - 2015.01.25 17:49:00 - [11] - Quote I've always run advanced uplinks, both before and after the changes, and they're still effective. As you well know, placement is key. I haven't noticed matches going to pieces because of lack of uplink spam. Dedicated Commando. CEO of Eridani Light Horse Strikers. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing."
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1107	Posted - 2015.01.25 17:50:00 - [12] - Quote TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: maybe try taking points that way they can spawn there instead What are you talking about. This is what people are already trying to do when playing skrim or dom. The game took a huge leap backwards when the uplink was nerfed to pieces. I-¦m finding it hard to believe there is a single experienced gamer out there who does not agree with me. Common.. The game has turned into marathon man unless we have an organized squad with experience working together. The gameplay is tragic at the moment and something has to be done.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1736	Posted - 2015.01.25 17:57:00 - [13] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: It highlighted that there is a huge problem with solo players . The playerbase has rubbed off on me. If I'm not in a squad I couldnt give two fucks if we win. I knew that this would attract you and the fact that you seem so " Anti-Solo " in your comments . I play solo and I try to win every dam match but when the game starts and the first 3 mins ( which are the most important to me ) of the match begins with the enemy team hacking two out of four points while my team is still chucking grenades at each other while shooting as well and calling in vehicles before they even move ... I already know it's going to be a tough one , couple the fact that I stay broke for the most part while people rack in the funds hand over fist running BPO's and that makes it hard to put forth any effort knowing that if I die 8 times I might not have any ISK until after the match . That's incentive , not the lack of the solo player .... I know many playing pubs that stay atop the board but if your constantly loosing by getting stomped by q-sync and ready made PRO squads while your teamed with random players , that also makes it hard . Can't force everyone to squad , that's not customization ... that's control . I really don't believe that the solo player is the problem , I know I have the incentive to win and I believe players like Clone D and others who I know run solo every match ... sorry if I couldn't think of anyone else at the moment but I see you in matches , don't have a problem with incentive , it's just broken mechanics like the lack of true matchmaking that hurting this game more then anything . I've seen you in the forefront of talking about " link spam " so I just knew that you would comment Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
LAVALLOIS Nash 463	Posted - 2015.01.25 18:00:00 - [14] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: It highlighted that there is a huge problem with solo players and the lack of incentive to win. The playerbase has rubbed off on me. If I'm not in a squad I couldnt give two fucks if we win. This is an incentive problem. I think the equipment stuff is in a good place. Joining pubs is a lottery of randoms, sometimes you get a mix of randoms that adds up to somewhat of a contribution and sometimes you end up with 5 tanks on a city map. its not solo players the problem, or even bandwidth to a certain extent. Its matchmaking. Theres alot of matches where the system puts me, solo logi, into a group with 15 people that seem right out of the academy, and then were up against a proto squad. If we were up against another team of casuals, bandwidth wouldn't matter because chances are they wouldn't be sending teams to aggressively hunt any uplink thats not in our redline. The bandwidth system can compete with limited and role base deployment, but it cant compete with teams hellbent on redlining the lesser team. Also, dont forget, public is supposed to be the most casual mode. If you tell me i need a squad in FW or planetary, you are probably right. But in public matches, its not fun to give 100% against people who stand no chance. Being in a squad to encourage that kind of behavior is even more disheartening. In public, its supposed to be fun to just run around try out a few new things. It takes away from the casual atmosphere to have someone in my ear saying "watch your back hostiles coming in from charlie". Maybe you, you have fun by seeing the word "Victory" on your screen and by always trying to put up the best numbers no matter what. Good for you ,some people enjoy that. Me I enjoy the play by play. Each opponent fights differently, and thats the fun for me. Not having 5 friends gun him down while we were trying to have a melee fight. Thats where the most unique and entertaining things happen is when you are having a 1vs1 fight on the sidelines. Even if I lose that melee fight, i had alot more fun losing ti that getting killed by a Six Kin rifle from 50M away.
Yokal Bob Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance 707	Posted - 2015.01.25 18:04:00 - [15] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Yokal Bob wrote: i want the old days back :( Which ones specifically? I've been here since the very start and I have to say the current iteration while missing some old features that were fun is overall substantially better then the days of old. Having to reboot every three matches is not something I'll ever miss, nor those lag-stairs-of-death in the BioMass Installation map of old. chromozone the start of uprising & pc the Chronos alliance EoN the good old days when you were not scared of your fellow bluedot and the game was a hive of activity /{o.o}/ ---L Inflatable hammer strikes again
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1738	Posted - 2015.01.25 18:04:00 - [16] - Quote Totally agree Nash . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
IAmDuncanIdahoVI Nos Nothi 12	Posted - 2015.01.25 18:13:00 - [17] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: Since the Drop-Uplink was nerfed to nothing. Not only did CCP kill off a clan of gamers but also made the gameplay more uneven than ever before. It is just silly to see what-¦s going on out there on the battlefield at the moment and I-¦m finding it difficult to enjoy it anymore. Thoughts? thoughts...hmmm. bad games are nothing to do with uplinks. both teams have the same limitations. balanced teams is the issue. every merc can still put down links. Red-jarring, blue-suiting, plasma-blading invisible death
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1108	Posted - 2015.01.25 18:22:00 - [18] - Quote IAmDuncanIdahoVI wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: Since the Drop-Uplink was nerfed to nothing. Not only did CCP kill off a clan of gamers but also made the gameplay more uneven than ever before. It is just silly to see what-¦s going on out there on the battlefield at the moment and I-¦m finding it difficult to enjoy it anymore. Thoughts? thoughts...hmmm. bad games are nothing to do with uplinks. both teams have the same limitations. balanced teams is the issue. every merc can still put down links. But they are not doing it are they? Are you playing the same game as me? There was a battle going on each game between us drop-uplinkers. Most of it happened in the sky and/or on top of buildings. A battle most of you could not see. Kamikaze missions where we battled out positions for our teams. Now this is gone and the game has become so much worse. Everyone with eyes can see this.
LAVALLOIS Nash 463	Posted - 2015.01.25 18:22:00 - [19] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Can't force everyone to squad , that's not customization ... that's control . I've seen you in the forefront of talking about " link spam " so I just knew that you would comment Thor . Yeah I was expecting him to in this thread. Due to the fact that its a playstyle he is completely unfamiliar with, he will never acknowledge or accept that it is a valid style of playing the game. However, just because he is rigid in his philosophy, it will not stop me from using his words or comments to make a point or to point out the folly of adhering rigidly to a philosophy. An example of this is how he always talks about how being in a squad 24/7 encouraged him to keep playing, so all players should be auto squadded. My counter is that id rather have a squad where each player has a history of lone wolfing, cause its a good insurance policy if all members of the squad can operate autonomously if required.
MrBlobz 128	Posted - 2015.01.25 18:24:00 - [20] - Quote Yokal Bob wrote: Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Yokal Bob wrote: i want the old days back :( Which ones specifically? I've been here since the very start and I have to say the current iteration while missing some old features that were fun is overall substantially better then the days of old. Having to reboot every three matches is not something I'll ever miss, nor those lag-stairs-of-death in the BioMass Installation map of old. the start of uprising I'm sorry, but the release of Uprising was one of the worst times in this game. (>'o')> #RollinGold <('o'<)

Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1114	Posted - 2015.01.25 18:25:00 - [21] - Quote LAVALLOIS Nash wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Can't force everyone to squad , that's not customization ... that's control . I've seen you in the forefront of talking about " link spam " so I just knew that you would comment Thor . Yeah I was expecting him to in this thread. Due to the fact that its a playstyle he is completely unfamiliar with, he will never acknowledge or accept that it is a valid style of playing the game. However, just because he is rigid in his philosophy, it will not stop me from using his words or comments to make a point or to point out the folly of adhering rigidly to a philosophy. An example of this is how he always talks about how being in a squad 24/7 encouraged him to keep playing, so all players should be auto squadded. My counter is that id rather have a squad where each player has a history of lone wolfing, cause its a good insurance policy if all members of the squad can operate autonomously if required. Don-¦t be a loser dude and stay on topic. Leave your personal issues against someone behind. Everyone can have an opinion on how things should be.
Clone D 1422	Posted - 2015.01.25 18:49:00 - [22] - Quote DDx77 wrote: I was just going to make a post about my overall opinion of this latest update ( which is poor btw) I agree that after the introduction of bandwidth there have been far too many one sided and really boring matches I think this is a odd and unexpected result of this feature Not unexpected at all. I called it before 1.10 was released: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2496124#post2496124
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1114	Posted - 2015.01.25 19:00:00 - [23] - Quote Is this your work Snorri +ürnason aka CCP Rattati? Hva+¦ varst +++¦/++i+¦ eiginlega a+¦ hugsa? Hvernig getur ++etta veri+¦ gott fyrir leikinn? V+ªri gaman a+¦ f+í svar.
LAVALLOIS Nash 465	Posted - 2015.01.25 19:05:00 - [24] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: Don-¦t be a loser dude and stay on topic. Leave your personal issues against someone behind. Everyone can have an opinion on how things should be. His opinion is my choice (solo) shouldn't exist at all, and everyone should be auto squadded. It has nothing to do with anything personal against him. Infact, in topics other than this one, i find myself in agreement with alot of his posts. Its just I already know his opinion and vision on this because hes posted it many times. And im allowed to attack opinions because that is the very nature of a debate, its the essence of an argument. Without attacking opinions, this forum is nothing more than a suggestion box. Im not saying hes not allowed to have an opinion, or that hes a bad person. I just very strongly disagree with his stance on squad play and solo play.
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1563	Posted - 2015.01.25 19:10:00 - [25] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: maybe try taking points that way they can spawn there instead What are you talking about. This is what people are already trying to do when playing skrim or dom. The game took a huge leap backwards when the uplink was nerfed to pieces. I-¦m finding it hard to believe there is a single experienced gamer out there who does not agree with me. Common.. The game has turned into marathon man unless we have an organized squad with experience working together. The gameplay is tragic at the moment and something has to be done. because my MCRU got indirectly buffed now with less droplink spam. that's why i cant support it's return because i'm no longer competing with those spawn points. "unless we have an organized squad" that's kind of the point.. dropship is no longer a novelty pinata my grimness actually serves a pupose now that players are forced to seek other spawning/transport options which in turn made the game funner for me. maybe they should allow EQ spam in 1 game mode to keep both sides happy but keep it out of skirm because skirm is setup for team play. AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
echo47 Sacrilege of Fatal Arms 275	Posted - 2015.01.25 19:17:00 - [26] - Quote Golden Day wrote: Run with a squad of SCANNERS players and you will survive Translated that for you. I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1114	Posted - 2015.01.25 19:21:00 - [27] - Quote TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: maybe try taking points that way they can spawn there instead What are you talking about. This is what people are already trying to do when playing skrim or dom. The game took a huge leap backwards when the uplink was nerfed to pieces. I-¦m finding it hard to believe there is a single experienced gamer out there who does not agree with me. Common.. The game has turned into marathon man unless we have an organized squad with experience working together. The gameplay is tragic at the moment and something has to be done. because my MCRU got indirectly buffed now with less droplink spam. that's why i cant support it's return because i'm no longer competing with those spawn points. "unless we have an organized squad" that's kind of the point.. dropship is no longer a novelty pinata my grimness actually serves a pupose now that players are forced to seek other spawning/transport options which in turn made the game funner for me. maybe they should allow EQ spam in 1 game mode to keep both sides happy but keep it out of skirm because skirm is setup for team play. Do you know how many gamers are running out there solo? Have you got a clue?? Be careful what you wish for. If things go on like this you won-¦t have anyone to play against anymore. This game can not afford to lose a whole clan of Dust gamers. This is exactly what happened when they killed of the Drop-Uplink Scout.
Cat Merc Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 14644	Posted - 2015.01.25 19:36:00 - [28] - Quote This thread amuses me greatly. Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan! *Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente vehicle name!*
IAmDuncanIdahoVI Nos Nothi 14	Posted - 2015.01.25 19:42:00 - [29] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: IAmDuncanIdahoVI wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: Since the Drop-Uplink was nerfed to nothing. Not only did CCP kill off a clan of gamers but also made the gameplay more uneven than ever before. It is just silly to see what-¦s going on out there on the battlefield at the moment and I-¦m finding it difficult to enjoy it anymore. Thoughts? thoughts...hmmm. bad games are nothing to do with uplinks. both teams have the same limitations. balanced teams is the issue. every merc can still put down links. But they are not doing it are they? Are you playing the same game as me? There was a battle going on each game between us drop-uplinkers. Most of it happened in the sky and/or on top of buildings. A battle most of you could not see. Kamikaze missions where we battled out positions for our teams. Now this is gone and the game has become so much worse. Everyone with eyes can see this. I can't see the logic in your argument, and last I looked I had eyes lol. You take the same thing away from both sides, how does that create unbalance? Sure there are less uplinks now - but that is surely the case for both sides? Your battle in the sky and on top of buildings is no more - so what? Run and gun on the ground with everyone else. Push from further away if no uplinks. All it does is change the spawn points. Can't imagine why you would blame crap match-making on these changes. You've nothing to back that up. Why aren't mercs still putting down links? You haven't explained why that is. Most suits can still manage two uplinks each. Why has your battle in the sky gone away? Not saying something hasn't changed for the worse, but I do not agree with your root cause. Red-jarring, blue-suiting, plasma-blading invisible death
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1565	Posted - 2015.01.25 19:46:00 - [30] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: maybe try taking points that way they can spawn there instead What are you talking about. This is what people are already trying to do when playing skrim or dom. The game took a huge leap backwards when the uplink was nerfed to pieces. I-¦m finding it hard to believe there is a single experienced gamer out there who does not agree with me. Common.. The game has turned into marathon man unless we have an organized squad with experience working together. The gameplay is tragic at the moment and something has to be done. because my MCRU got indirectly buffed now with less droplink spam. that's why i cant support it's return because i'm no longer competing with those spawn points. "unless we have an organized squad" that's kind of the point.. dropship is no longer a novelty pinata my grimness actually serves a pupose now that players are forced to seek other spawning/transport options which in turn made the game funner for me. maybe they should allow EQ spam in 1 game mode to keep both sides happy but keep it out of skirm because skirm is setup for team play. Do you know how many gamers are running out there solo? Have you got a clue?? Be careful what you wish for. If things go on like this you won-¦t have anyone to play against anymore. This game can not afford to lose a whole clan of Dust gamers. This is exactly what happened when they killed of the Drop-Uplink Scout. my corp plays destiny now and i run an MCRU which sometimes gets me a good squad but it's really random and rare.. i'm not saying most matches aren't boring or don't suck, they do and i get one sided matches but the good ones are worth the wait sometimes.. i'm flying MCRU solo %70 so you can't say i dont know what it's like because i do play solo that much of the time or running scans with the LAV.. i haven't really wish for anything tho the game just changed in my favor. i might have made a post once in the past saying i wished there were less droplinks but i doubt the devs listen to my drivel i posted in someones thread.. sadly the future of dust no longer really concerns me once i get planetside 2 but i have to go with progress so i have really no crusade against yours just giving you another perspective on the subject. AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012



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