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Ripley Riley wrote:

One Eyed King wrote:

The problem I have is that for the majority of Dust's time frame I could solo if I wanted and not have too much of a problem. I could do my thing and still be a benefit to my team because the games were more or less evenly matched. Not that there weren't stomps, but that they were much fewer and further between than now.

Now the games are so miss matched that its pointless to even try. I don't even hold it against redline snipers anymore. I tried still doing something, and I lost over 300k in one match running just a 48K Quafe outfit.

It is quite possibly the worst thing that could have happened to the NPE as well.

I feel for you. It's been ages since I ran solo consistently myself.

It's not what many people want to hear, but Dust 514 is very squad-centric. I don't know if Rattati altered team building this way on purpose or not, but it pays it be in a squad now. And I mean, in a big way. I am not sure that Dust 514 is a solo player's game anymore.

It reminds me of Eve Online, in a way. You can solo in Eve, but it is more dangerous, less rewarding, and generally boring. Of course, CCP allows players do it because it is a sandbox game. They don't encourage that type of play though. They want you in fleets together; bullshitting on comms, making friendships, betraying each other, etc. As opposed to mindlessly running missions 24/7 by yourself.

I got off on a tangent... my bad.

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Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 6928	Posted - 2015.01.23 19:43:00 - [31] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Don't solo. You can't tell me what to do! It only takes one merc to separate from the flock and place a link elsewhere... especially during the situation OP described. I'm not saying a solo player can't help a team earn a victory. I'm just saying that if you hate soloing (and I could see why someone would) then don't. Squads are much easier to find than some people make them out to be. Join channels, have a corp that encourages squading, make a friend, be social. I know I'm asking a lot of our more neckbeardy players, but finding a squad is not rocket surgery. Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley. @Ripley_Riley
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 5693	Posted - 2015.01.23 19:46:00 - [32] - Quote All Gucci wrote: Its only difficult because of lame scanners...... when you solo and you try to flank by yourself and "you've been scanned" pops up....just know a good 6-8 people are coming your way because they see an easy kill and they are garbage most of the time so they also thirsty for that kill... Um, scouts tend to do well solo, too. At this point in time, I thought everyone in the Dust Community had at least 1 ADV Scout at this point. 2 ADV Dampeners should be enough for pubs, I think. Even Assaults have a decent Profile now (they dodge STD Scanners without skills or mods). Just flank with enough dampeners, and place an uplink or two. That should be good.
Leovarian L Lavitz KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1342	Posted - 2015.01.23 20:02:00 - [33] - Quote Solo is not impossible in this game o.o, I always get my best matches solo (28 to 30+ KDR matches) Omni-Soldier Few are my equal in these specialties, none compare in all of them
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1733	Posted - 2015.01.23 20:31:00 - [34] - Quote JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: All Gucci wrote: Its only difficult because of lame scanners...... when you solo and you try to flank by yourself and "you've been scanned" pops up....just know a good 6-8 people are coming your way because they see an easy kill and they are garbage most of the time so they also thirsty for that kill... So much this Scanners have done nothing to make the game better. They do when one is NOT using a scout suit and that one would like to see like that same scout but scanners still cant match a fully specked scout so I really don't know what's the problem with you scanner haters . I went back to playing logistic because it's what I like to do and I try to light up blips for those on my team who can't see , so they don't get blindsided , I get no reward for it because I play Min logi ( all scanners should give intel WP's while Gal obtains more threw their bonus ) but I get to help out those on my team to survive ( hopefully ) so in-turn they can do the same for myself . The only reason I can think of for the scanner hatred is because that makes it harder for you to blindside others which in-turn should lead one to invest more in that role to be sufficient . I still can't see everything and what is visible is only for seconds , if you can't tell that your being scanned and in-turn adjust your tactics then it's not the scanner that's the problem . Edit : I'm always solo scanners are a must . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 7372	Posted - 2015.01.23 20:47:00 - [35] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Joel II X wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Don't solo. You can't tell me what to do! It only takes one merc to separate from the flock and place a link elsewhere... especially during the situation OP described. I'm not saying a solo player can't help a team earn a victory. I'm just saying that if you hate soloing (and I could see why someone would) then don't. Squads are much easier to find than some people make them out to be. Join channels, have a corp that encourages squading, make a friend, be social. I know I'm asking a lot of our more neckbeardy players, but finding a squad is not rocket surgery. The problem I have is that for the majority of Dust's time frame I could solo if I wanted and not have too much of a problem. I could do my thing and still be a benefit to my team because the games were more or less evenly matched. Not that there weren't stomps, but that they were much fewer and further between than now. Now the games are so miss matched that its pointless to even try. I don't even hold it against redline snipers anymore. I tried still doing something, and I lost over 300k in one match running just a 48K Quaffe outfit. It is quite possibly the worst thing that could have happened to the NPE as well. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
BLUNT SMKR Ahrendee Mercenaries 114	Posted - 2015.01.23 20:49:00 - [36] - Quote I run solo all the time. Wins ain't guaranteed but I'll go ham trying to make it easier for the bluedots (links, hacks, covering points, n kills). U just gotta play smarter then if u were in a group. which is ez mode. TeamWork>KDR I Don't Know Why They Grinning Them Suckers Ain't Winning I Could Tell You That Right From The Beginning
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 6933	Posted - 2015.01.23 20:58:00 - [37] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: The problem I have is that for the majority of Dust's time frame I could solo if I wanted and not have too much of a problem. I could do my thing and still be a benefit to my team because the games were more or less evenly matched. Not that there weren't stomps, but that they were much fewer and further between than now. Now the games are so miss matched that its pointless to even try. I don't even hold it against redline snipers anymore. I tried still doing something, and I lost over 300k in one match running just a 48K Quafe outfit. It is quite possibly the worst thing that could have happened to the NPE as well. I feel for you. It's been ages since I ran solo consistently myself. It's not what many people want to hear, but Dust 514 is very squad-centric. I don't know if Rattati altered team building this way on purpose or not, but it pays it be in a squad now. And I mean, in a big way. I am not sure that Dust 514 is a solo player's game anymore. It reminds me of Eve Online, in a way. You can solo in Eve, but it is more dangerous, less rewarding, and generally boring. Of course, CCP allows players do it because it is a sandbox game. They don't encourage that type of play though. They want you in fleets together; bullshitting on comms, making friendships, betraying each other, etc. As opposed to mindlessly running missions 24/7 by yourself. I got off on a tangent... my bad. Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley. @Ripley_Riley
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 7372	Posted - 2015.01.23 21:05:00 - [38] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: One Eyed King wrote: The problem I have is that for the majority of Dust's time frame I could solo if I wanted and not have too much of a problem. I could do my thing and still be a benefit to my team because the games were more or less evenly matched. Not that there weren't stomps, but that they were much fewer and further between than now. Now the games are so miss matched that its pointless to even try. I don't even hold it against redline snipers anymore. I tried still doing something, and I lost over 300k in one match running just a 48K Quafe outfit. It is quite possibly the worst thing that could have happened to the NPE as well. I feel for you. It's been ages since I ran solo consistently myself. It's not what many people want to hear, but Dust 514 is very squad-centric. I don't know if Rattati altered team building this way on purpose or not, but it pays it be in a squad now. And I mean, in a big way. I am not sure that Dust 514 is a solo player's game anymore. It reminds me of Eve Online, in a way. You can solo in Eve, but it is more dangerous, less rewarding, and generally boring. Of course, CCP allows players do it because it is a sandbox game. They don't encourage that type of play though. They want you in fleets together; bullshitting on comms, making friendships, betraying each other, etc. As opposed to mindlessly running missions 24/7 by yourself. I got off on a tangent... my bad. It always has been squad centric, which I don't think is a bad thing in and of itself. It used to be that you would at least have a squad on your side as well. If there wasn't there was still a chance that your randoms were good enough to at least make the game competitive. Now it seems like squading significantly increases your chance of winning, while running solo dramatically increases your chance of losing which shouldn't be the case as teams should consist of both squaded and unsquaded mercs. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 6937	Posted - 2015.01.23 21:18:00 - [39] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: It always has been squad centric, which I don't think is a bad thing in and of itself. It used to be that you would at least have a squad on your side as well. If there wasn't there was still a chance that your randoms were good enough to at least make the game competitive. Now it seems like squading significantly increases your chance of winning, while running solo dramatically increases your chance of losing which shouldn't be the case as teams should consist of both squaded and unsquaded mercs. If Dust didn't have such a small player population I would say that we need a deathmatch arena-style gamemode where it's everyone against everyone. Maybe reduce the match size to 16 players total in this game mode. This would encourage solo mercenaries. And I'm going to bring it up again: we need some form of PvE that can be done in groups or solo. PvE would allow a solo player who just wants a 20 minute reprieve from getting his teeth stomped in to kill some Sansha pirates zombies or something. Then he can jump back into the meat grinder. Make PvP and PvE connected to one another. Make PvE "contracts" drop from PvP matches at a certain interval. You can't do a PvE mission without one of these contracts. This would keep people from just carebearing in PvE every single day. Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley. @Ripley_Riley
Edau Skir2 Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 307	Posted - 2015.01.23 21:29:00 - [40] - Quote I solo for 90% of my games. I only squad up in Fw because it's needed, but otherwise, I just get held back by squads in pubs. Resident pasty smasher

Meee One Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki 1481	Posted - 2015.01.23 22:14:00 - [41] - Quote JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: All Gucci wrote: Its only difficult because of lame scanners...... when you solo and you try to flank by yourself and "you've been scanned" pops up....just know a good 6-8 people are coming your way because they see an easy kill and they are garbage most of the time so they also thirsty for that kill... So much this Scanners have done nothing to make the game better. Actually from this account,it sounds like scanners prevented a back attack. That sounds like something to me. Then again,i'm not arrogant enough to just assume my enemies are just going to let me walk all over them without putting up at least a little resistance. Official Blueberry of the Forums. Title given by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 397	Posted - 2015.01.24 00:13:00 - [42] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Just a routine matchmaking whine thread. Actually just had my team farmed in domination. They put uplinks just outside the letter and faked a push the whole time. What made this most obvious is the fact that they scanned our one tiny cluster of links repeatedly yet never put an OB on them. Well thenGÇª. I've stayed with Dust since the 5-14 release, so I think I can give a span-of-time perspective. Dust 514 IS playable solo (meaning you are running around the map on your own, trying to win the match without joining /supporting any actions your teammates might be doing). Yes, I said solo IS possible. But always remember, the devs never designed the game to be played as a flock of solo-ers trying to capture the same flag (like most multiplayer-fps games are). And (hopefully) the devs will never change their intent for Dust to be a true "work-together-to-win" fps. CCP's game DOES allow you to resist the design and "win-by-solo-means", but it's uphill all the way, and I personally believe you have to be an advanced-player to finally achieve the tools and the know-how to do it. There ARE ways a solo-player can act like a "shepherd" or "door-opener" who paves the way for an aimless team to win a match and not ever realize one player's completely-solo ops made their win possible. But there's so much "re-thinking how you fight in an fps" that you have to orient yourself to when starting Dust, there's no way you'll be able to perfect confident "solo techniques" until you've become well-seasoned. Often I've been able to shepherd random blues into attacking the right Null at the right time, or herd them into the right defensive/offensive places, that prevents the red team from winning the match. No squading, no joining the team required,GÇª certain tools and good-thinking are often all that's needed. The Bandwidth change that heavily curbed equipment spamming, has made uplinks (one of the most potent tools for winning the match) far more powerful in combat, and effective almost solely with the players who developed the finer skills of using them. Scanners HAVE caused confident players who relied on a standard method for beating their enemy, to be pushed back and have to rethink their routines. Changes like these that stop us in our tracks and re-challenge us DO (believe me) make the game repeatedly better and better. Harder for un-practiced mercs to use, and more difficult to win using our old 10th-century fps methods,GÇª means "a Better game". Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 2872	Posted - 2015.01.24 00:16:00 - [43] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Don't solo. But, if everyone squadded up, no one would lose. That would not be fun. This is a prototype-level sig. I worked hard for it, and I'm going to use it every time. So, just get used to it.
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 2872	Posted - 2015.01.24 00:17:00 - [44] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: I'm a solo player and I have to say that going in alone isn't as bad as what many make it out to be. Sure, I have roughly 30k+ deaths and yes, there will always be bad match ups, but I'm not one who is looking for an easy time when playing. I enjoy the challenge and appreciate all the BS tactics thrown out by protostomping corps. It keeps me on my toes and allows me to devise ways to put up a fight, even whilst redlined and when it seems like no one else is trying. Me, I just die a lot. This is a prototype-level sig. I worked hard for it, and I'm going to use it every time. So, just get used to it.
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 2872	Posted - 2015.01.24 00:18:00 - [45] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: Dust is the only game that I can think off that punishes you for trying to have a couple of fun and quick matches before running offto do something else in real life. Why the hell should someone be forced to join or make a sqaud just to play 2 or 3 games? This game and the community is flawed. Shhhh, a lot of these players don't know there's anything else to go do. You'll scar them. This is a prototype-level sig. I worked hard for it, and I'm going to use it every time. So, just get used to it.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 6942	Posted - 2015.01.24 00:22:00 - [46] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Don't solo. But, if everyone squadded up, no one would lose. That would not be fun. True. So true. Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley. @Ripley_Riley
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4784	Posted - 2015.01.24 00:35:00 - [47] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: I'm a solo player and I have to say that going in alone isn't as bad as what many make it out to be. Sure, I have roughly 30k+ deaths and yes, there will always be bad match ups, but I'm not one who is looking for an easy time when playing. I enjoy the challenge and appreciate all the BS tactics thrown out by protostomping corps. It keeps me on my toes and allows me to devise ways to put up a fight, even whilst redlined and when it seems like no one else is trying. Me, I just die a lot. I'm happy to know the other lonewolves of this game appreciate the challenge. If I may ask, how many deaths have you accumulated so far?
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game RUST415 931	Posted - 2015.01.24 00:43:00 - [48] - Quote i pretty much solo all the time. on the few occasions i do squad up its more just to talk to friends rather than work as a squad. it can be horrible and you should be prepared for hate mail from certain squads because you wont just line up to die like the **** heads on your team.
TritusX PH4NT0M5 151	Posted - 2015.01.24 00:44:00 - [49] - Quote I always solo. But I am as talented as Han Solo uheheuheuheuheuhue Believe in RUST Don't hate the DUST lol
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 1217	Posted - 2015.01.24 01:02:00 - [50] - Quote If you really want hard mode, keep soloing but turn your speakers off as well. Half-Assed Forum Warrior / Half-Decent Commando / Damn Good Logi / Matari Loyalty 7

LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4785	Posted - 2015.01.24 01:09:00 - [51] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: If you really want hard mode, keep soloing but turn your speakers off as well. I play with no sound due to my hyperacusis.
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 1218	Posted - 2015.01.24 01:12:00 - [52] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: If you really want hard mode, keep soloing but turn your speakers off as well. I play with no sound due to my hyperacusis. Woof. Brutal dude. Have you tried obtaining a cheap EQ, and trying to eliminate certain frequencies? Half-Assed Forum Warrior / Half-Decent Commando / Damn Good Logi / Matari Loyalty 7
TritusX PH4NT0M5 151	Posted - 2015.01.24 01:13:00 - [53] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: If you really want hard mode, keep soloing but turn your speakers off as well. I play with no sound due to my hyperacusis. Woof. Brutal dude. Have you tried obtaining a cheap EQ, and trying to eliminate certain frequencies? Half the time I play I have no sound because my parents don't like gun noises Believe in RUST Don't hate the DUST lol
thehellisgoingon MONSTER SYNERGY 140	Posted - 2015.01.24 01:17:00 - [54] - Quote I love running a fast dampened solo slayer fit but recently mercs have been running together more and that makes it tough even for the veteran solo players. I for one just tactically avoid the "hit squad" and kill off the nubs being stupid redberries. Otherwise I highly advise running with a squad. Maybe a smaller squad of 2-3 people.
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 1219	Posted - 2015.01.24 01:25:00 - [55] - Quote TritusX wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: If you really want hard mode, keep soloing but turn your speakers off as well. I play with no sound due to my hyperacusis. Woof. Brutal dude. Have you tried obtaining a cheap EQ, and trying to eliminate certain frequencies? Half the time I play I have no sound because my parents don't like gun noises A cheap dual RCA cable and an even cheaper Boom Box shelf unit from Goodwill or equivalent will allow you to use a cheap pair of headphones with your PS3. That's what I did forever, until recently. You could be gaming with sound for under $15. Half-Assed Forum Warrior / Half-Decent Commando / Damn Good Logi / Matari Loyalty 7
Skullmiser Vulcansu 274	Posted - 2015.01.24 02:22:00 - [56] - Quote Being alone is a lot better than being in a crumby squad. I solo often as logistics. I use a profile dampener. I can get kills and support people who aren't in the middle of an enemy swarm. Too many squad members ask for support in a stupid place that'll just get all of us killed Heavies run out into the middle of nowhere. Squads will try to take a point in a skirmish match where the entire enemy team lies. There are some players with whom I will do better, but usually I'm better off alone. If this game was fun, I wouldn't be playing it.
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 1139	Posted - 2015.01.24 02:30:00 - [57] - Quote I solo all the time, just decide what you want to do and do it. Run links, rep, revive, scout objectives, there's plen5y of ways to solo effectively. Don't expect to win tho. Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....


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