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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.22 14:54:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:Rail rifle kicks like a mule and the arr is **** ads. The sniper rifle will get you killed fighting at that range with its long sway time. All in all I would rather use a scrambler rifle as shooting next to them for the first 30 rounds in the clip for heat to build up just feels weird to me. your using the gun wrong ..come join my Lr squad and learn of the golden glory
Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
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Boll Spirit
Iberica Racing Team
43
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Posted - 2015.01.22 15:07:00 -
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I see everyday Dian Farron-¦s viziam laser in pubs , and he really rocks with it , i-¦m sure he kills rail rifles and snipers before these kill to him . It-¦s very usefull in ambush. |
Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
184
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Posted - 2015.01.22 15:10:00 -
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Boll Spirit wrote:I see everyday Dian Farron-¦s viziam laser in pubs , and he really rocks with it , i-¦m sure he kills rail rifles and snipers before these kill to him . It-¦s very usefull in ambush.
Yeah he runs it because he knows it's the better choice because I always kill him with it lol he's a ok lr user not as good as myself or LT tiberius. If he still played
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Kain Spero
Negative-Feedback
4339
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Posted - 2015.01.22 15:12:00 -
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Slave of MORTE wrote:Kain Spero wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Have you used the Officer LR on an Assault ak.0 with nothing but damage mods in the highs?
Melts everythng! This is a thing of beauty to say the least. I think the LR is pretty close to being where it needs to be. The only thing that I might like to see with it is expand it's sweet spot by 10 meters on either side. Don't do it kain stfu your going to make my darling op ..
Even just 10m? Yeah... maybe so
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Nano Vyper
33
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Posted - 2015.01.22 15:14:00 -
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Or perhaps you suck with the lazors?
Don't click this
Why did you?
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Dingleburt Bangledack
344
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Posted - 2015.01.22 15:18:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:4* amarr weapons in the game
1. Scrambler Rifle
2. Scrambler Pistol
3. Laser Rifle
4. Whatever exists in your head... |
Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
184
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Posted - 2015.01.22 15:44:00 -
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Slave of MORTE wrote:Boll Spirit wrote:I see everyday Dian Farron-¦s viziam laser in pubs , and he really rocks with it , i-¦m sure he kills rail rifles and snipers before these kill to him . It-¦s very usefull in ambush. Yeah he runs it because he knows it's the better choice because I always kill him with it lol he's a ok lr user not as good as myself or LT tiberius. If he still played
Buff me I ******* dare you
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
184
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Posted - 2015.01.22 15:45:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Slave of MORTE wrote:Kain Spero wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Have you used the Officer LR on an Assault ak.0 with nothing but damage mods in the highs?
Melts everythng! This is a thing of beauty to say the least. I think the LR is pretty close to being where it needs to be. The only thing that I might like to see with it is expand it's sweet spot by 10 meters on either side. Don't do it kain stfu your going to make my darling op .. Even just 10m? Yeah... maybe so
I'm dropping 30 to 50 in my proto ak.0 just like my proto mk.0
Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
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LUGMOS
Quafe Premium
1634
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Posted - 2015.01.22 16:14:00 -
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Laser? UP?
On any other suit maybe... But on Amarr Assault it is great.
As aid before, ur doing it wrong. If someone is out in the open, blaze them. If they are popping from cover, preheat it, then blaze them. Its not ridiculously hard...
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Raedon Vo-Graza
Armored Dragon Dust
63
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Posted - 2015.01.22 16:18:00 -
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Grimmiers wrote:I proposed to make it a light anti shield av weapon for the amarr on trello.
I wouldn't mind it doing more close range damage since it's still hard to use at that range already.
Actually it can do some pretty good damage against lavs and even dropships if used in a group (of course a dropship is a bit of a harder target if it is a ways away). A squad of us all took laser rifles and melted a lav in a really short amount of time, actually surprised us. |
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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx
289
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:17:00 -
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Alot of shield tankers think the dmg profile should be changed. I think we should give them what they want..just to be fair
"In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane"
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echo47
Sacrilege of Fatal Arms
275
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Posted - 2015.01.22 19:19:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:The Pub stars peasants in GD always entertain me. I really couldn't care less how many blue berries you killed with lasers. ****, I can kill them with melee in a heavy suit with no mods. That's not the damn point. It's still a weapon meant to ******* kill, so get over the fact that it does get some. But how about answering the question posted in the damn OP?
Why would you pick laser over RR or sniper?
No kick and no sway. The precision on a the laser rifle is its best quality, in this peasants view.
I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
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Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries
724
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Posted - 2015.01.22 19:21:00 -
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the laser is perfect as it is. |
Jammer Jalapeno
BIG BAD W0LVES
167
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Posted - 2015.01.22 20:13:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:What a useless weapon, can anyone explain to me why to use it over a rail or a sniper?
Even in it's optimal - you're going to just plain suck. The best you can hope for is to be suppressive - even then, once you get to armor you'll be snail crawling every kill.
RR is forgiving if you miss just hip fire and it'll spread your shots for people with poorer aim - if lazer is going to be pin point then it needs to reward you for it. RR isn't pin point and it does far more. It makes no sense that a weapon that is easier to use rewards you more for it.
Either push the optimal of the laser to 25-120m and leave it as is - or increase the DPS.
The laser is a fun novelty weapon....just like the PLC
Sometimes they can be useful in certain situations but for everyday combat not so much.
That and there is nothing like watching a minmitard heavy scurry across open ground while you are frying him. Quite entertaining. 
MmMmMm TanKs....delicious TanKs
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P14GU3
Savage Bullet
1146
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Posted - 2015.01.22 20:15:00 -
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@ sota.
If you haven't specced into it, probably best not to comment on its usefulness. The laser is in a really good place, no better or worse than the ScR if you know how to use it. I do fine with it and I'm in no way a specialist with it, or even a great slayer at all. I can think of 4 or 5 names who easily rack up 20+ kills a match with it (yes, they could probably do it with a RR as well.)
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
5800
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Posted - 2015.01.22 20:37:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:@ sota.
If you haven't specced into it, probably best not to comment on its usefulness. The laser is in a really good place, no better or worse than the ScR if you know how to use it. I do fine with it and I'm in no way a specialist with it, or even a great slayer at all. I can think of 4 or 5 names who easily rack up 20+ kills a match with it (yes, they could probably do it with a RR as well.)
? Don't comment on a weapon I laugh at when it fires at me?
Come on laser guys - shoot me. I'll just call and LAV and wreck your life - and if you don't have proto AV nades against my Saga-II - you have absolutely no chance, and it doesn't matter which suit I take.
Sniper and RR has a chance up close - and they have the range, and better DPS.
Seems silly.
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2015.01.22 22:33:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:@ sota.
If you haven't specced into it, probably best not to comment on its usefulness. The laser is in a really good place, no better or worse than the ScR if you know how to use it. I do fine with it and I'm in no way a specialist with it, or even a great slayer at all. I can think of 4 or 5 names who easily rack up 20+ kills a match with it (yes, they could probably do it with a RR as well.)
If i could soil my hands with any long range rifle other than my darling laser I would probably run well with rr I do exceedingly well with boundless cr which I am told is hard to connect with lol
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All Gucci
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
84
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Posted - 2015.01.22 22:35:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:Malleus Malificorum wrote:No. Lasers are fine as they are, they're a niche weapon. Instead of reinventing the wheel and changing one of the three amarr weapons in the game that actually is somewhat distinct and has a flavor of its own instead of being a generic hitscan rifle, how about we instead actually work on getting a few more weapons for the amarr. The fusion rifle from destiny makes an excellent model for a pulse laser weapon (be it a heavy weapon, a smg, or the amarr 'shotgun'). Grimmiers wrote:I proposed to make it a light anti shield av weapon for the amarr on trello.
I wouldn't mind it doing more close range damage since it's still hard to use at that range already. You are not amarr, do not try to tell us how to be amarr. 4* amarr weapons in the game
weapon variations don't count....
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2971
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Posted - 2015.01.22 22:45:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:What a useless weapon, can anyone explain to me why to use it over a rail or a sniper?
Even in it's optimal - you're going to just plain suck. The best you can hope for is to be suppressive - even then, once you get to armor you'll be snail crawling every kill.
RR is forgiving if you miss just hip fire and it'll spread your shots for people with poorer aim - if lazer is going to be pin point then it needs to reward you for it. RR isn't pin point and it does far more. It makes no sense that a weapon that is easier to use rewards you more for it.
Either push the optimal of the laser to 25-120m and leave it as is - or increase the DPS.
I'd probably choose the rail or sniper, so I can't really help you there. lol
That said, they're pretty good for running in packs in Ambush in the open maps and destroying pubbies.
But at the highest level, they really have nothing they are "best" at, which is why you don't see them, IMO.
How to solve that is up for debate, but I'm not sure that DPS or a range change is the answer -- they melt people pretty quick as it is, IMO. Perhaps the warmum period could be less or something like that.
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Kierkegaard Soren
Eridani Light Horse Striker
654
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Posted - 2015.01.22 22:47:00 -
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Zero kick.
Zero dispersion.
Gets better the longer you keep firing, not worse like every other weapon.
Skill weapon - requires good judgement to use, a keen eye for the headshot and a steady hand.
Rewards all three of those qualities with face-melting damage.
Literally.
Is the only actual suppression weapon in the game.
It's a frickin' lazor.
Synergy with Amarr assault is terrifying to behold. It makes cal assault RR mercs weep just to think of What Could Be.
Speaking of the RR, it's the only weapon that out ranges bar the sniper rifle. Technically more accurate than both. Sweet.
It's just immense. Back it up with a breach scram and you're golden.
Because you're Amarr, probably.
Dedicated Commando. CEO of Eridani Light Horse Strikers.
"He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing."
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Golden Day
Y.A.M.A.H
914
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Posted - 2015.01.22 22:49:00 -
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Kierkegaard Soren wrote:Zero kick.
Zero dispersion.
Gets better the longer you keep firing, not worse like every other weapon.
Skill weapon - requires good judgement to use, a keen eye for the headshot and a steady hand.
Rewards all three of those qualities with face-melting damage.
Literally.
Is the only actual suppression weapon in the game.
It's a frickin' lazor.
Synergy with Amarr assault is terrifying to behold. It makes cal assault RR mercs weep just to think of What Could Be.
Speaking of the RR, it's the only weapon that out ranges bar the sniper rifle. Technically more accurate than both. Sweet.
It's just immense. Back it up with a breach scram and you're golden.
Because you're Amarr, probably.
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Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Mercenaries
769
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Posted - 2015.01.22 23:01:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:Kain Spero wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Have you used the Officer LR on an Assault ak.0 with nothing but damage mods in the highs?
Melts everythng! This is a thing of beauty to say the least. I think the LR is pretty close to being where it needs to be. The only thing that I might like to see with it is expand it's sweet spot by 10 meters on either side. please get rid of the scope, give us the old zoom
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
552
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Posted - 2015.01.22 23:37:00 -
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The Eristic wrote:My only real problem with it is that ADS still feels glitchy, too frequently people will move through the beam multiple times without taking damage and it's even worse if I'm actively trying to track them.
This.
Last night I caught a guy with a sliver of armor left. He ran through the beam 4 separate times and didn't take a lick of damage.  |
Savage Mangler
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
250
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Posted - 2015.01.22 23:47:00 -
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Jammer Jalapeno wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:What a useless weapon, can anyone explain to me why to use it over a rail or a sniper?
Even in it's optimal - you're going to just plain suck. The best you can hope for is to be suppressive - even then, once you get to armor you'll be snail crawling every kill.
RR is forgiving if you miss just hip fire and it'll spread your shots for people with poorer aim - if lazer is going to be pin point then it needs to reward you for it. RR isn't pin point and it does far more. It makes no sense that a weapon that is easier to use rewards you more for it.
Either push the optimal of the laser to 25-120m and leave it as is - or increase the DPS. The laser is a fun novelty weapon....just like the PLC Sometimes they can be useful in certain situations but for everyday combat not so much. That and there is nothing like watching a minmitard heavy scurry across open ground while you are frying him. Quite entertaining.
PLC's are usable in everyday situations if you know the projectile arc and speed well enough. It can dominate cover to cover firefights, provides AoD, and can be used as AV if needed.
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P14GU3
Savage Bullet
1146
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Posted - 2015.01.23 00:34:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:P14GU3 wrote:@ sota.
If you haven't specced into it, probably best not to comment on its usefulness. The laser is in a really good place, no better or worse than the ScR if you know how to use it. I do fine with it and I'm in no way a specialist with it, or even a great slayer at all. I can think of 4 or 5 names who easily rack up 20+ kills a match with it (yes, they could probably do it with a RR as well.) ? Don't comment on a weapon I laugh at when it fires at me? Come on laser guys - shoot me. I'll just call and LAV and wreck your life - and if you don't have proto AV nades against my Saga-II - you have absolutely no chance, and it doesn't matter which suit I take. Sniper and RR has a chance up close - and they have the range, and better DPS. Seems silly.
You run a suit with the most armor in the game, and you laugh at a weapon that does the least armor damage? Hmm makes sense to me. And you could beat any non-heavy suit by running a heavy in LAV. The instant teleport in/out mechanics are broken. If you are getting beat by a RR against a heavy in CQC, I dont know what to say...
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
5801
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Posted - 2015.01.23 00:44:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:P14GU3 wrote:@ sota.
If you haven't specced into it, probably best not to comment on its usefulness. The laser is in a really good place, no better or worse than the ScR if you know how to use it. I do fine with it and I'm in no way a specialist with it, or even a great slayer at all. I can think of 4 or 5 names who easily rack up 20+ kills a match with it (yes, they could probably do it with a RR as well.) ? Don't comment on a weapon I laugh at when it fires at me? Come on laser guys - shoot me. I'll just call and LAV and wreck your life - and if you don't have proto AV nades against my Saga-II - you have absolutely no chance, and it doesn't matter which suit I take. Sniper and RR has a chance up close - and they have the range, and better DPS. Seems silly. You run a suit with the most armor in the game, and you laugh at a weapon that does the least armor damage? Hmm makes sense to me. And you could beat any non-heavy suit by running a heavy in LAV. The instant teleport in/out mechanics are broken. If you are getting beat by a RR against a heavy in CQC, I dont know what to say...
Pretty sure I specifically said it doesn't matter which suit I choose.
But thanks for the bump.
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Freccia di Lybra
Maphia Clan Corporation
380
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Posted - 2015.01.23 00:59:00 -
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It's actually strange, I wouldn't say it's really UP, but it's absolute garbage in PC, for sure.
Ei fu,
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P14GU3
Savage Bullet
1146
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Posted - 2015.01.23 01:20:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:P14GU3 wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:P14GU3 wrote:@ sota.
If you haven't specced into it, probably best not to comment on its usefulness. The laser is in a really good place, no better or worse than the ScR if you know how to use it. I do fine with it and I'm in no way a specialist with it, or even a great slayer at all. I can think of 4 or 5 names who easily rack up 20+ kills a match with it (yes, they could probably do it with a RR as well.) ? Don't comment on a weapon I laugh at when it fires at me? Come on laser guys - shoot me. I'll just call and LAV and wreck your life - and if you don't have proto AV nades against my Saga-II - you have absolutely no chance, and it doesn't matter which suit I take. Sniper and RR has a chance up close - and they have the range, and better DPS. Seems silly. You run a suit with the most armor in the game, and you laugh at a weapon that does the least armor damage? Hmm makes sense to me. And you could beat any non-heavy suit by running a heavy in LAV. The instant teleport in/out mechanics are broken. If you are getting beat by a RR against a heavy in CQC, I dont know what to say... Pretty sure I specifically said it doesn't matter which suit I choose. But thanks for the bump.
Reading comprehension sucks today apparently. I see what you are trying to say, and the fall-off is a bit ridiculous, but a lot of laser users aren't easily caught by a LAV. They are either in places not accesible to LAVs, or have spent enough time with a laser to know what to do. I carry a sub on every laser suit. I guarantee you won't LAV up to me and get an easy kill with anything but a heavy.
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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