yet it still does more dps to armor than CR it just has less armor damage till overheat than CR has in the whole clip but this is really a nonissue, if you miss too much switch to sidearm and finish him off

No. It doesn't.

Max CR Armor DPS: 644
Max ScR Armor DPS: 520

Keep in mind that Max DPS is also much easier to achieve on a CR than it is on an ScR, which widens the gap in real use.

you are a genius that lacks the ability to ready guess you weren't a genius after all lol

At what point did you see me say buff? lol 15/15 isn't a buff?...by your logic then 20/20 is a Nerf? so you agree with me that the 20/20 damage profile is unnecessary? and putting the clip at 35 isn't a buff, it is a tiny unnerf since it was up until this point 45 in the clip. Sit down.

500 Armor HP is still 500 HP.

Guess that makes you a butthurt scrub, and me a genius.

Most suits are armor tanked, and armor tanked suits have more armor than shield tanked suits have shields, so overall a percentage increase to armor damage is much more valuable than the same percentage increase to shield damage, so yes, if you trade -5% shield dmg for +5% armor damage, in the current meta of the game its a substantial buff.

Not that I mind, I've been advocating tightening the profile of the scrambler rifle for a while, because that weapon is prohibitively overpowered against shield tankers. Nobody seems to care though. Its like people think having a weapon that is effective at all ranges up to ~90ish meters that can wipe out any amount of shields in the game in under a second is fair.

TTK is pretty quick in this game but the scrambler rifle against shield suits is just bullshit quick. And dont tell me any other rifle is even comparable, they require consistant dps over a couple of seconds or more to take someone down, and they cant deliver the majority of that damage in the first half second of a fight, they are forced to deliver it over time which gives people time to react and take cover.

buff or nerf its a matter of perspective I guess..... if shields and armor are supposedly balance against each other then 15/15 is neither a nerf nor a buff...and I intended to make the ScR less punishing on shield suits because all you hear from them is tears..... all you hear from me is laughter....

Well, I dont think shields and armor are balanced against each other, theres lots of reasons like the laser weapons have absurd profiles, regen not really being better for shields after the armor rep buff, existence of triage hives and rep tools dramatically favor armor tank, and so forth, but thats another thread.

For these scrambler threads I just like to mention that I'd rather not have rifle weapons in the game that can insta wipe shields in under half a second with high precision, good long range performance, good CQC performance, good effective ranges, and with no real drawback. ;d

I never said that? lmfao you are a complete idiot....

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if you miss too much don't worry you don't have to be immobilized and defenseless for 5 sec just dance in a circle and switch to your side arm to rip away his shield then finish him off

Lol your arguments are paper stats that apply with perfect conditions...

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just wanted to throw that in to poop on your life some more :)

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I never said that? lmfao you are a complete idiot....

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if you miss too much don't worry you don't have to be immobilized and defenseless for 5 sec just dance in a circle and switch to your side arm to rip away his shield then finish him off

have you ever tried to take out an armor suit with more then 500 hp with no damage mods? its quite the difficult task.....put the ScR clip size at 35 and change the damage profile to 15/15.....why do we need such an extreme damage profile when shields most of the time have low values? if no then reduce the fitting cost because it has less in the clip and less max ammo so logically its a weaker weapon from before

no real draw back!? Vesta this is blasphemy! slowest suit in the game....5 sec overheat, 50 damage, charge reload glitch,excessive heat build up with the charge shot... no spray and pray to fall back on....its has draw backs vesta you just ignore them .

I just dont think the drawbacks are special, rail rifles have worse drawbacks these days with the kick/charge mechanic changes, and it takes more skill to time bursts to maximize dps on combat rifles than to just not shoot more than 18 shots, and you dont have to use it on the slowest suit in the game, which isnt the amar assault anyway.

Also poopsticks.

I think you two need to agree to disagree and let it go.....

Please do not ask them to touch the ScR they will remember it exists and magically the heat build up will get increased yet again. On a non Amarr assault suit it is barely )or just not at all) competitive as is without the assault suits.

Thanks CCP for balancing based on turbo controller users and ruining what could have been a great weapon.

Crap, I reminded them it exists too. I apologize now for when it just blows up in your face before you even fire.

he is a prime example of a carried casual who doesnt know the basics about the ingame mechanics (which he has proven by himself every post he made), yet he spills out bs about it all round in the forum. this thread is just a farce and whine post in disguise made by all gucci the scrublord.

when a new player visits forum for valuable information he might stumble upon his shitposts thus I wont accept someone spreading misinformation.

You are the prime example of arrogance and ignorance you assume you know how a weapon works because you know MAX attainable dps and some paper stats like every suit is just going to stand there and let you hit them with a semi auto. Cr is so incredibly easy there is 0 debate about that, you can burst and adjust your aim during a burst....easy much? lmfao are you going to ignore my challenge again like the feeble roach you are or will you grow a pair and respond ?

how cute, you think you can make proclamations like that. they grow up so quickly don't they?

anyway, your lack of skill is no argument and never was. you havent brought up a single argument yet and repeating the same "oh I cant hit as easy and overheat" does not qualify. please continue your whine festival and amuse us more. *munches popcorn*

I think you two need to agree to disagree and let it go.....

Lol you really are a duck, hide behind that computer puss boy. When ever you feel like growing a pair and facing me in match I'll be there to crush you and your soul

If the draw backs aren't balance enough for the weapon why would the weapon even exist vesta? and nooooooo rail rifle and combat rifle are aloooot easier to use lmfao cant believe you said that.....Idk if I wanna squad with you after hearing that you run minassault all day, you clearly said in squad you dislike ScR for that same reason....