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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2060
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Posted - 2015.02.02 14:18:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Is this fit any good?
Calscout C/1 Ish Nova Knives. CRG-3 Shotgun. ARN-8 Cloak. I forget the mods. :/
Use a shotgun, or use nova knives, having both on the same fit is bad. You overspecialize at close quarters and leave yourself without any mid range options.
Switch shotgun for assault rail, or knives for magsec.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Middas Betancore
Mantodea MC
421
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Posted - 2015.02.02 15:42:00 -
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I do not like that fit, again you are limiting your range and for the cost of your proto items you could make a more rounded fit I also expect you are being detected on ewar against veteran ewar scouts, depends on your passive skills
If you want a hardcore close combat fit here's a suggestion, built on an advanced cal scout frame
Scout c/1 series
Highs 2 enhanced extenders Complex precision
Lows Enhanced profile dampner Complex reactive/Enhanced codebreaker/enhanced regulator/enhanced kinetic catalyzer
Weapons and equipment
Advanced Bolt pistol. /magsec/assault rail Advanced nova knives Advanced Locus grenades
Cloak field Injector/Nanohive
If you would prefer to keep your shotgun you can easily run it alongside a bolt pistol or magsec smg
Hope this is helpful if not feel free to query more
"Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
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Tiny Pineapple
Corrosive Synergy
62
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Posted - 2015.02.07 17:59:00 -
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Why do so many people suggest ADV weapons on ADV suits? Is it worth it to downgrade modules for a little bit of damage? Or is there more to it than that? I prefer to have better modules, but that's just me. Not to the mention the increase in cost from STD to ADV. I know this isn't Caldari related but I'm curious nonetheless.
I want to add that this is the most helpful thread I have seen on these forums and thank all who contributed to it.
Half of what I say is sarcasm. Don't take me too seriously.
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Middas Betancore
Mantodea MC
439
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Posted - 2015.02.07 18:27:00 -
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Yes it is common practice to fit you dropsuits according to your tier, although as u skill your character you will have to make some choices as to what you want to prioritize.
Im guessing you're running assault, I would say that the weapon is important though costing is also a factor so putting proto items on adv fits is something I reserve for support roles, such as proto Av weapons or sniper rifles on adv frames, or proto equipment on logistics suits. As for fitting priority on adv suits here's a rough order I would suggest on what items should be fitted at higher tiers first
Adv assault Shield extenders Light weapon Grenade Low slots-armour or regulators Regen high slots-energizers/rechargers- also dmg mods Equipment Sidearm
So a common adv fit style I might use if saving fitting im different areas
Adv assault rail Basic bolt pistol Adv Frag grenade/av grenade
1 complex extender, 1 adv extender 2 basic energizers
2 Enhanced regulator Or 1 Enhanced regulator, 1 basic plate/enhanced plate/repairer
Basic Nanite injector/nanohive (sidenote: adv needles are a good item for assaults to carry, be that extra medic for your team save players money for peoples saved suits, save clones in a close run match, also generally boosts in match team morale, everyone likes saving a suit)
Hope this clears things up a bit, feel free to query further
"Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
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Middas Betancore
Mantodea MC
439
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Posted - 2015.02.07 18:48:00 -
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Further note on tiers: generally as u move through tiers on rifles/pistols/smg's, the damage increases by roughly 5% per tier When coupled with high levels of proficiency and dmg mods, using a higher tier weapon becomes a greater step in dmg
However an alternate view is that simply training yourself to be more accurate and efficient with your rifle means you could forgo That extra dmg in favour of better defense/utility After all, a higher tier does just give you dmg, no extra ammo/reload/range, not to say higher skills are not useful
As for a Caldari view on things, the general philosophy talks of hitting you're enemy from beyond his range hard and fast, utterlydestroying them before they are a threat This ethos works well in defensive or overwatch play, lots of rangy dmging fits from high positions etc Not to say you can't advance to mid-close range attacks, that's where youre hit'n'run fast regen shield tactics come into play Past 5-7 seconds out of combat, an armour tanker will always regen hp slower than you (without logistics support) , so whittlethem down accross more than one engagement, use your better agility to make tactical withdrawals keeping you at range, hammering your opponent when he tries to follow
"Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2118
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Posted - 2015.02.07 18:57:00 -
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Tiny Pineapple wrote:Why do so many people suggest ADV weapons on ADV suits? Is it worth it to downgrade modules for a little bit of damage? Or is there more to it than that? I prefer to have better modules, but that's just me. Not to the mention the increase in cost from STD to ADV. I know this isn't Caldari related but I'm curious nonetheless.
I want to add that this is the most helpful thread I have seen on these forums and thank all who contributed to it.
Upgrading a weapon by one tier is essentially equivalent to putting on an unpenalized advanced damage mod for light weapons, or a complex damage mod for heavy weapons.
If a weapon had 400 dps as a basic level item upgrading to the next tier would put it up to 420dps, which in theory grants more benefits in terms of faster TTK than the extra HP that going from a basic to an advanced module would provide in terms of survivability. When combined with damage mods this effect is multiplicative (420 * 1.05 = 441).
It's really situational as to what you can downgrade for modules though. Armor plates? Best bang for buck is advanced. Armor reps? Depends on your hp, but complex is generally the best around (being 3x better than basic and 50% better than adv). Shield extenders? Go complex or go home. Rechargers/Energizers? Advanced is good. Precision amps? Complex is the only thing worth using.
There's few hard and fast rules when it comes to fitting, because in the end you're looking at the overall stats of a suit and how it performs.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Tiny Pineapple
Corrosive Synergy
62
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Posted - 2015.02.08 00:47:00 -
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I apologize for not specifying that I was refering to assault suits. Anyway, you two convinced me and I will try some different fits with Adv weapons, maybe even Proto.
Half of what I say is sarcasm. Don't take me too seriously.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2124
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Posted - 2015.02.08 03:17:00 -
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Just posting one of my proto logi fits quick. It's pretty skill intensive to get it to work though.
Logistics Ck.0 3x complex shield extender 2x complex precision enhancer 2x complex range amplifier 1x enhanced reactive plate 1x enhanced armor plate.
Bdr-2 repair tool Allotek Nanohive (R) Nanite injector
Rail Rifle Flux grenade.
Ends up with 443 shield, 271 armor, 25 hp/s shield (4 / 6.13s delays), 4hp/s armor rep.
48.75 meter scan radius, 27db precision. Ends up with a short range scan of 10m and 24db precision IIRC.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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gustavo acosta
Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention
908
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Posted - 2015.02.10 03:00:00 -
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Skimmed through thread, so this might have already been answered does shield depleted delay happen when a dropsuit has completely exhausted its shield, or is it vice versa to regular delay?
I read that depleted delay happens only when some shield is taken off the suit, but it was on profits so it could be wrong...
GimmeDatSuhWeet isk
We found a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank, all hail pope redblood the 6th
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Kaze Eyrou
DUST University Ivy League
1925
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Posted - 2015.02.10 03:25:00 -
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gustavo acosta wrote:Skimmed through thread, so this might have already been answered does shield depleted delay happen when a dropsuit has completely exhausted its shield, or is it vice versa to regular delay?
I read that depleted delay happens only when some shield is taken off the suit, but it was on profits so it could be wrong... Regular shield delay is how long you have to wait until the shields will start recharging again. Shield Depleted Delay is like what you already said: The amount of time you have to wait when you shield is completely depleted.
CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2146
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Posted - 2015.02.10 04:46:00 -
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gustavo acosta wrote:Skimmed through thread, so this might have already been answered does shield depleted delay happen when a dropsuit has completely exhausted its shield, or is it vice versa to regular delay?
I read that depleted delay happens only when some shield is taken off the suit, but it was on profits so it could be wrong...
Depleted only happens when you lose all of your shields, 'standard' is for when you lose less than all of it. There is a bug/feature though that when you get depleted and start recharging but don't get full / much hp back before being depleted again it instead uses your standard delay to determine recharge.
In the case of every suit in the game except for a cal sentinel this is a positive thing, but with the cal sentinel having a longer standard delay than depleted its actually kind of bad for it.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Mahal Daj
Mahal Tactical Enterprises
128
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Posted - 2015.02.10 22:16:00 -
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I just skilled into Cal Scout 1, and I'm usually an armor player. How should I fit my scout 3high/1low to achieve the most time at max shields under fire? I am used to playing scout, so eHP is less important than 'immediate' and 'awesome' shield regen as it pertains to my question.
A different way to ask: should I use 1 of each shield module, and then have a free for my high fitting of choice?
See my Post on Crashes: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2413361#post2413361
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2146
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Posted - 2015.02.10 22:50:00 -
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Two shield extenders, One recharger, One regulator. Its the best combination of EHP, regen and delays. Spring for complex on the extenders if you can fit them.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Soul Cairn
Fatal Absolution
18
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Posted - 2015.02.11 23:55:00 -
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Middas Betancore wrote:The Caldari State is one of your 4 starting races in Dust 514
Primarily relying on long range, high accuracy and power while suffering high reloads and recoil and low ammo count
Defensively the Caldari traditionally rely on fast recharging shields making close quarter combat tricky, but certain fittings and playstyles can be employed to counteract its short-comings
Almost 3 year veteran specialising in caldari dropsuits and weapons
Feel free to post questions about Caldari weapons, dropsuits, playstyles and fittings I'll do my best to answer concisely and promptly How to make the Cal FW blueberries not ****?
Born Ammatar, Caldari at heart.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2166
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Posted - 2015.02.12 00:47:00 -
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Soul Cairn wrote:Middas Betancore wrote:The Caldari State is one of your 4 starting races in Dust 514
Primarily relying on long range, high accuracy and power while suffering high reloads and recoil and low ammo count
Defensively the Caldari traditionally rely on fast recharging shields making close quarter combat tricky, but certain fittings and playstyles can be employed to counteract its short-comings
Almost 3 year veteran specialising in caldari dropsuits and weapons
Feel free to post questions about Caldari weapons, dropsuits, playstyles and fittings I'll do my best to answer concisely and promptly How to make the Cal FW blueberries not ****?
Blues are blues. No faction has good blues.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Middas Betancore
Mantodea MC
458
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Posted - 2015.02.12 01:06:00 -
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Keep ur FW gripes out of here, be part of the solution
"Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
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Soul Cairn
Fatal Absolution
18
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Posted - 2015.02.12 01:56:00 -
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I'll be constructive since I don't have anything better to do. I'll answer anything about Caldari vehicles and solo FW tactics. Although you really shouldn't play FW solo, especially when platoons are implemented.
Born Ammatar, Caldari at heart.
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Tiny Pineapple
Corrosive Synergy
62
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Posted - 2015.02.13 03:14:00 -
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Are there any chat channels for CFW other than Kirjuun Heiian? Lately no one even says anytging on that channel.
Half of what I say is sarcasm. Don't take me too seriously.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2171
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Posted - 2015.02.13 04:09:00 -
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I'm not aware of any, faction warfare has a lot of issues as a game mode - with it being the 'pc lite' playground.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Middas Betancore
Mantodea MC
462
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Posted - 2015.02.13 05:33:00 -
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Im not aware of any CFW channels other than kirjuun Heiian
A lot of high sp players have taken it upon themselves to assemble in closed channels for CFW which I don't bother looking into anymore
For a squad there's a few options -You could see if your corpmates want to deploy a sqd -Join a squad in the CFW warbarge via the Team bar on ur comm menus -Make a public sqd labelled as CFW and recruit via the sqd finder and the FW warbarge
Kirjuun Heiian has been intensely active from time to time so it's worth staying involved Just FW at the moment isn't very popular without the right amount of manpower
"Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
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Middas Betancore
Mantodea MC
462
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Posted - 2015.02.13 05:51:00 -
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I'll keep Kirjuun Heiian open on my neocom, feel free to mail me or say hi if u wanna CFW I'll do my best to help Im always up for fighting the Gallente
"Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
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Middas Betancore
Mantodea MC
466
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Posted - 2015.02.13 10:48:00 -
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Looking at updating the OP: should be done within the next 24 hours
"Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
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