DUST Search - how u proto stompers make ur isk?

Clone D wrote:

Have you ever built a proto suit?

They're seventy-five times as expensive as a solid militia-gear build.

They're ten times as expensive as a solid standard-gear buld

They're fivee times as expensive as a solid advanced-gear build.

Yet, unless you HP tank them with massive shields/armor, they die just as quickly as any above.

What makes proto stompers so powerful is not their gear. It's that they run in squads who keep their group tight, within about 25 meters of each other. This allows them to rotate in and out quickly if one is low on HP. The injured soldier can fall back while the others move to the front and act as a shield. They can pick each other up. They can all focus their attack on a single soldier who just spawned out of a CRU. They can all focus their attack on a single soldier left to defend an objective. They all focus on a single solder, and when they do, he drops in under a second.

If you want to stomp, you can do it in militia gear:
1. Find a group of people you can play with every day for 8 hours in a row.
2. Always stay within 25 meters of each other in battle.
3. When you get hurt, move behind those who are not hurt and let them take some damage as they finish off the enemy.
4. Pick each other up.
5. Use comms so that you can call out which soldier you will all focus your attack on.
6. Have someone run scans.
7. Have a knifer or puncher to run up in people's faces. (optional but trendy)

There is synergy in a group. That is the power; not the meta level of the weapons/armor.

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Beast gameplay1 jr True Vengeance. 16	Posted - 2015.01.17 18:29:00 - [31] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: Here are my tips for making ISK, especially against proto 1) light frame/scout suit 2) Kincats 3) Remotes explosives! :D 4) ??? 5) PROFIT K I was just in-game with u
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 4373	Posted - 2015.01.17 18:30:00 - [32] - Quote I'm a pimp, I keep a few for myself but the rest I sell daily. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Awesome Pantaloons Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 701	Posted - 2015.01.17 18:40:00 - [33] - Quote Beast gameplay1 jr wrote: Awesome Pantaloons wrote: Here are my tips for making ISK, especially against proto 1) light frame/scout suit 2) Kincats 3) Remotes explosives! :D 4) ??? 5) PROFIT K I was just in-game with u lol Was I protostomping? XD PC has me addicted to running proto. I only have a few fits that aren't pro. Seid ihr das essen? Nein! Wir sind der jager!
Beast gameplay1 jr True Vengeance. 16	Posted - 2015.01.17 18:41:00 - [34] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: Beast gameplay1 jr wrote: Awesome Pantaloons wrote: Here are my tips for making ISK, especially against proto 1) light frame/scout suit 2) Kincats 3) Remotes explosives! :D 4) ??? 5) PROFIT K I was just in-game with u lol Was I protostomping? XD PC has me addicted to running proto. I only have a few fits that aren't pro. Yea I have a full proto minja I don't have enough isk 2 use it though I don't pc yet
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 5058	Posted - 2015.01.17 18:43:00 - [35] - Quote I don't, I make lp (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
Helghus Resther Heisen Republic 58	Posted - 2015.01.17 19:59:00 - [36] - Quote Beast gameplay1 jr wrote: Texas Killionaire wrote: PCs. Running BPOs during the day. K no corps let me pc That's because you're the biggest corp-jumper in the game. The winner of this war will not prove who's right; only, who's left.
Helghus Resther Heisen Republic 58	Posted - 2015.01.17 20:04:00 - [37] - Quote Nonoriri ko wrote: I spam ambush with medic or frontline fit. Currently at 330 billion isk. Then when a map pops i like to play, I go all out with best proto fit. Have many different types of fits to use for the right maps. I have some fits like this for example. Ambush Cheap Massdriver Cheap Uplinks Hi-Massdriver Hi-Uplinks Cheap AV Hi-AV You get the idea, this way you dont waste 2 million isk on a losing battle. You can use the more practical fit for the map you are on. I recommend sticking to advanced gear or lower until you have 20 million isk minimum. It really sucks having anything lower since a stack of 100 proto can cost 5 million or more. 330 billion ISK? Why not just run with a squad of people using all proto, keeps you alive and profit increases from there. The winner of this war will not prove who's right; only, who's left.
Raiden246 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 2	Posted - 2015.01.17 20:08:00 - [38] - Quote Nonoriri ko wrote: I spam ambush with medic or frontline fit. Currently at 330 billion isk. Then when a map pops i like to play, I go all out with best proto fit. Have many different types of fits to use for the right maps. I have some fits like this for example. Ambush Cheap Massdriver Cheap Uplinks Hi-Massdriver Hi-Uplinks Cheap AV Hi-AV You get the idea, this way you dont waste 2 million isk on a losing battle. You can use the more practical fit for the map you are on. I recommend sticking to advanced gear or lower until you have 20 million isk minimum. It really sucks having anything lower since a stack of 100 proto can cost 5 million or more. 330 Billion ISK... Seriously, what's your daily income?
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 5560	Posted - 2015.01.17 20:13:00 - [39] - Quote Proto stompers stomp, which means they win with minimal effort, which means they rarely lose assets, which means they lose little to no isk, while gaining a victory's worth of isk.
Dreis Shadowweaver T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 1729	Posted - 2015.01.17 20:35:00 - [40] - Quote Use LP gear; it's much more isk-efficient, almost as isk-efficient as using regular adv gear. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 R3KT.

P14GU3 Savage Bullet 1143	Posted - 2015.01.17 20:47:00 - [41] - Quote Mregomies wrote: gitguud! I play solo and proto equip. all the time. still can gain back my drunk night donations (20milISK) in week. My gungame suck so I throw RE's and snipe when not supporting blueberries with my reps and hives. go to mirror and ask your self "well, tell me your own opinion, how did it go?" and stop rushing. Lol git gud, then proceeds to say "I throw RE's and snipe." The real answer is to get scrubby, most proto players don't care about the team, or even winning in pubs. They only care about their K/D and isk efficiency. I see a lot of proto players run cloaky scouts and camp CRUs/points the entire match. They usually end up something like 20/1 at the end of the match, while their team loses horribly. So just grab a cloaky scout with RE's/shotgun and camp. 'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
CoochMaster Flex Ahrendee Mercenaries 42	Posted - 2015.01.17 21:46:00 - [42] - Quote Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: CoochMaster Flex wrote: Don't die. Lol Or use one of Coach's "specialty" suits Lmfao! That's an option too. :p CONHU still lives on.
CoochMaster Flex Ahrendee Mercenaries 42	Posted - 2015.01.17 21:48:00 - [43] - Quote Clone D wrote: Have you ever built a proto suit? They're seventy-five times as expensive as a solid militia-gear build. They're ten times as expensive as a solid standard-gear buld They're fivee times as expensive as a solid advanced-gear build. Yet, unless you HP tank them with massive shields/armor, they die just as quickly as any above. What makes proto stompers so powerful is not their gear. It's that they run in squads who keep their group tight, within about 25 meters of each other. This allows them to rotate in and out quickly if one is low on HP. The injured soldier can fall back while the others move to the front and act as a shield. They can pick each other up. They can all focus their attack on a single soldier who just spawned out of a CRU. They can all focus their attack on a single soldier left to defend an objective. They all focus on a single solder, and when they do, he drops in under a second. If you want to stomp, you can do it in militia gear: 1. Find a group of people you can play with every day for 8 hours in a row. 2. Always stay within 25 meters of each other in battle. 3. When you get hurt, move behind those who are not hurt and let them take some damage as they finish off the enemy. 4. Pick each other up. 5. Use comms so that you can call out which soldier you will all focus your attack on. 6. Have someone run scans. 7. Have a knifer or puncher to run up in people's faces. (optional but trendy) There is synergy in a group. That is the power; not the meta level of the weapons/armor. remember the little hit squad we use to run Clone? We all gotta squad up again. CONHU still lives on.
robin williams' ghost whisky tango foxtrot sir 589	Posted - 2015.01.17 21:56:00 - [44] - Quote Create an alt Dump sp into corporations Start a corporation recruit noobs Set a high tax rate Profit Robin Williams endorses this corp
Sasha Silver duna corp 67	Posted - 2015.01.17 22:25:00 - [45] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: Prostitution. Already done it Sasha Silver - The ISK Whore Your friendly neighborhood forum necromancer Alt of Dreis
Clone D 1371	Posted - 2015.01.18 00:09:00 - [46] - Quote CoochMaster Flex wrote: Clone D wrote: There is synergy in a group. That is the power; not the meta level of the weapons/armor. remember the little hit squad we use to run Clone? We all gotta squad up again. Absolutely, bro! I will never forget the time our terror troop went full bolt pistol. Good times. Hit me up in game this week and let's wreak havoc!
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2903	Posted - 2015.01.18 03:20:00 - [47] - Quote "how u proto stompers make ur isk?" A combination of PC matches, teamwork, skill, and squadmates that run needles. Clone, A squad of only pistols? That's child's play. Try only melee.
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 660	Posted - 2015.01.18 04:12:00 - [48] - Quote robin williams' ghost wrote: Create an alt Dump sp into corporations Start a corporation recruit noobs Set a high tax rate Profit Monster Synergy Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
Yeeeuuuupppp Random Gunz 806	Posted - 2015.01.18 05:30:00 - [49] - Quote Nonoriri ko wrote: I spam ambush with medic or frontline fit. Currently at 330 billion isk. Then when a map pops i like to play, I go all out with best proto fit. Have many different types of fits to use for the right maps. I have some fits like this for example. Ambush Cheap Massdriver Cheap Uplinks Hi-Massdriver Hi-Uplinks Cheap AV Hi-AV You get the idea, this way you dont waste 2 million isk on a losing battle. You can use the more practical fit for the map you are on. I recommend sticking to advanced gear or lower until you have 20 million isk minimum. It really sucks having anything lower since a stack of 100 proto can cost 5 million or more. Pic of your character sheet to validate the following statement please. "Currently at 330 billion risk" See you on the flip side brother PSN: GMANCASH Come on innnnn
robin williams' ghost whisky tango foxtrot sir 591	Posted - 2015.01.18 06:37:00 - [50] - Quote 2Berries wrote: robin williams' ghost wrote: Create an alt Dump sp into corporations Start a corporation recruit noobs Set a high tax rate Profit Monster Synergy Exactly Robin Williams endorses this corp

demonkiller 12 The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 447	Posted - 2015.01.18 06:38:00 - [51] - Quote I only run proto in an organised squad, sometimes If we're just versing a rable of randoms I'll run proto as well, otherwise I run adv when playing solo and std/mlt when i come across another squad of proto and I pick of their teams std/mlt and the proto squad usually goes for the bigger targets on my team and leave me alone to flank and kill also, injectors, so good youll see some proto squads with a few "deaths" but theyre being picked up continuously so theyre not losing anything and not really dying
Cat Merc Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 14473	Posted - 2015.01.18 06:41:00 - [52] - Quote I have no idea how I do it. I'm a very aggressive and often suicidal (for the lulz) and yet always remain ISK positive at the end of the day. I don't budget, I don't change my playstyle, I will charge into a pack of enemies for the lulz, losing suits, but at the end of the day remain ISK positive. Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan! Assault Conglomerate: Because we don't shave
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution 1298	Posted - 2015.01.18 08:19:00 - [53] - Quote I made hundreds of millions from baby sitting a dead corp and hiring TeamPlayers to defend my couple for me for months just splitting it with a friend. GOML Dual tanking is for bad players. Come play a better game.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 9264	Posted - 2015.01.18 08:21:00 - [54] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: I made millions from baby sitting a dead corp and hiring TeamPlayers to defend my districts for me for months just splitting it with a friend. GOML Rams Incubus into Forum Thread CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution 1298	Posted - 2015.01.18 08:22:00 - [55] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: THUNDERGROOVE wrote: I made millions from baby sitting a dead corp and hiring TeamPlayers to defend my districts for me for months just splitting it with a friend. GOML Rams Incubus into Forum Thread I had a militia turret and almost no vehicle skills. I use it for uplink spam and ramming. Good dogfight though lol Dual tanking is for bad players. Come play a better game.
ARF 1049 Osmon Surveillance 165	Posted - 2015.01.18 09:34:00 - [56] - Quote There is a very large sum of ISK floating around dust from when holding planets paid you. And from a very early refund we got, that's where I got my pool of ISK roughly 190 mil. sci-fi has numbed The word plasma. It's 1-3 billion*F superheated ionized gas that behaves like a floating liquid.
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 673	Posted - 2015.01.18 13:18:00 - [57] - Quote Clone D wrote: Have you ever built a proto suit? They're seventy-five times as expensive as a solid militia-gear build. They're ten times as expensive as a solid standard-gear buld They're fivee times as expensive as a solid advanced-gear build. Yet, unless you HP tank them with massive shields/armor, they die just as quickly as any above. What makes proto stompers so powerful is not their gear. It's that they run in squads who keep their group tight, within about 25 meters of each other. This allows them to rotate in and out quickly if one is low on HP. The injured soldier can fall back while the others move to the front and act as a shield. They can pick each other up. They can all focus their attack on a single soldier who just spawned out of a CRU. They can all focus their attack on a single soldier left to defend an objective. They all focus on a single solder, and when they do, he drops in under a second. If you want to stomp, you can do it in militia gear: 1. Find a group of people you can play with every day for 8 hours in a row. 2. Always stay within 25 meters of each other in battle. 3. When you get hurt, move behind those who are not hurt and let them take some damage as they finish off the enemy. 4. Pick each other up. 5. Use comms so that you can call out which soldier you will all focus your attack on. 6. Have someone run scans. 7. Have a knifer or puncher to run up in people's faces. (optional but trendy) There is synergy in a group. That is the power; not the meta level of the weapons/armor. If the whole fcking team fights ^^^ this is possible regardless to what you're wearing. Do it in advanced gear all the time. The issue with proto stomping is when the majority of your team stops fighting because they saw a proto rifle in the kill feed. THIS Community is largely a bunch btches worried more about their kd than winning battles. As soon as they see a real challenge they leave or snipe. This puts the rest of your team into a relentless camp fest?! The "6 v 16" situation. Sometimes all it takes is a slayer logi with links, needle, a scanner, and a proto rifle on an adv su it to get you back into an area. I can guarantee a fcking sniper rifle won't do that! Sometimes when getting proto stomped stop and check the map. You'll find that you and about 4 other mercs are actually fighting. The rest of those pssies are in the redline watching you get obliterated knowing full well you could use a hand. Sorry for the language, but this bothers the fck out of me. To address your cash issue there are a number of different ways to make isk stack honestly. 1. Manage your PC activity Stop xing up for every dmn match! Some maps aren't good for your role. Close maps generally get assaults blown away while open maps have claimed many a sentinel caught running across 50 meters of plain. Foolishly going into PC with under 10 mil in your account isn't smart. Make sure you have atleast 25 of the suit (s) you intend to run in that PC. If you don't you don't X. 2. BPO's are awesome! With your upgrades and proficiencies maxed a merc can turn a cheap bpo into a killing machine. (Still waiting on gal logi, sentinel, assault, and commando bpos CCP, and not those shtty apex suits) I would invest in a bpo before those dmn keys! 3. Set goals! "Today I'm gonna grind up 10 mil isk!" Simple right? Take your time, perfect your abilities, and watch your isk stack. Tell yourself "I'm not running proto until I reach my next million skill points!". I guarantee you'll have some isk saved up. 4. Do math! Calculator? Check! Price tags? Check! Brain?...... eh?! Calculate up how much 100 prototype dropsuits will cost you. You can also do this with weapons, mods, equipment, etc. Grind up double your calculations. You will have 100 ready to go plus some buffer. Simple. 5. Run in squad with mercs that have scrots! If your in a squad of guys that see a corp name, and instantly mentally quit? Call them all pssies, exit squad, find some fcking fighters, and squad up for some 16 v 16 barn burners! I know there are corps that you know for a fact are just not worth you burning isk on as they all out experience you by leagues, but you won't get any better not fighting will you? If nothing else lock down one point, and make them earn it every time they show up. If they take it move to the next, and stack up! o7 "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 673	Posted - 2015.01.18 13:25:00 - [58] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Mregomies wrote: gitguud! I play solo and proto equip. all the time. still can gain back my drunk night donations (20milISK) in week. My gungame suck so I throw RE's and snipe when not supporting blueberries with my reps and hives. go to mirror and ask your self "well, tell me your own opinion, how did it go?" and stop rushing. Lol git gud, then proceeds to say "I throw RE's and snipe." The real answer is to get scrubby, most proto players don't care about the team, or even winning in pubs. They only care about their K/D and isk efficiency. I see a lot of proto players run cloaky scouts and camp CRUs/points the entire match. They usually end up something like 20/1 at the end of the match, while their team loses horribly. So just grab a cloaky scout with RE's/shotgun and camp. Rotflmao! I totally missed the scrubbery posted there lol! Omg what a scrub! "Get gud" lol! Man I almost p*ssed myself when I read that lmao! Directly after telling a man to "get gud" he suggest throwing remotes and sniping lol! I can't breathe lol! "Anybody order chaos?"
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 9267	Posted - 2015.01.18 16:07:00 - [59] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: THUNDERGROOVE wrote: I made millions from baby sitting a dead corp and hiring TeamPlayers to defend my districts for me for months just splitting it with a friend. GOML Rams Incubus into Forum Thread I had a militia turret and almost no vehicle skills. I use it for uplink spam and ramming. Good dogfight though lol Lol I have max skills but used milita rails and the blaster only does damage against Pythons for some reason. CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.


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