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Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 771	Posted - 2015.01.15 17:48:00 - [1] - Quote In my opinion the max travel distance for swarms should be equal to the lock on range which is i believe 175m. That way dropships actually could escape and not be doomed to death as soon a random guy fires 3 swarm volleys. Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
Stupid Blueberry Pure Evil. Capital Punishment. 926	Posted - 2015.01.15 17:49:00 - [2] - Quote There are many problems with swarms, but I don't believe this is one of them. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.
Makuta Miserix DOD - Fringe Division 304	Posted - 2015.01.15 17:52:00 - [3] - Quote I don't even know what to say... CEO of DOD - Fringe Division. Please don't break the universe. Thank you for your cooperation. Private Beta Veteran.
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 773	Posted - 2015.01.15 17:52:00 - [4] - Quote Stupid Blueberry wrote: There are many problems with swarms, but I don't believe this is one of them. actually it is cause the max travel distance for swarms is ~400m. That and the increase in speed they got makes it a death sentence as soon 3 volleys are fired from a decent skilled swarmer for allmost any dropship. LAV's are quick enough and can untilise cover on the ground and a gunnlogi can do this too due its better mobility over a madrugar. Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
Toobar Zoobar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 109	Posted - 2015.01.15 17:52:00 - [5] - Quote Getting fired at by swarms is like contracting ebola. Once they start firing at you are going to get hit. There's no cure. No countermeasure. Once there's 3 volleys in the air most of my ADS's are dead. Specialization: Making typo's.
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 553	Posted - 2015.01.15 17:52:00 - [6] - Quote What are you talking about? They always get away! Sounds like you're a pilot... TIP: As soon as you hear swarms getting launched, GTFO of there as fast as possible. Their "follow the target" range is I guess 300m, the same distance at which you can get shot by Forge guns, Railguns and Missile launchers. (I might be slightly off on that range, it might vary slightly from weapon to weapon IIRC) EDIT: I didn't see any other posts when I started writing all of this... lol I may not have a mic, but trust me, you NEED me in your squad if you want to win. When I'm on a roll, I'm unstoppable.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1524	Posted - 2015.01.15 17:52:00 - [7] - Quote They shud just remove them. New eden has a steep learning curve....except with swarms, they offer them to the dummies. Crush them
Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 470	Posted - 2015.01.15 17:58:00 - [8] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: In my opinion the max travel distance for swarms should be equal to the lock on range which is i believe 175m. That way dropships actually could escape and not be doomed to death as soon a random guy fires 3 swarm volleys. 1. That sounds fair
Toobar Zoobar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 109	Posted - 2015.01.15 17:58:00 - [9] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: What are you talking about? They always get away! Sounds like you're a pilot... TIP: As soon as you hear swarms getting launched, GTFO of there as fast as possible. Their "follow the target" range is I guess 300m, the same distance at which you can get shot by Forge guns, Railguns and Missile launchers. (I might be slightly off on that range, it might vary slightly from weapon to weapon IIRC) EDIT: I didn't see any other posts when I started writing all of this... lol I don't know how experienced you are flying and ADS, but it feels like 50% of the time, if not more, either I can't hear the swarms (audio glitch) or they don't render. Sometimes both. Without lock on warnings it's often too difficult to know if theres swarms after you. Specialization: Making typo's.
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 15070	Posted - 2015.01.15 18:04:00 - [10] - Quote I agree, we should make the lock range 400m to even things out. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND

Stupid Blueberry Pure Evil. Capital Punishment. 929	Posted - 2015.01.15 18:06:00 - [11] - Quote Toobar Zoobar wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: What are you talking about? They always get away! Sounds like you're a pilot... TIP: As soon as you hear swarms getting launched, GTFO of there as fast as possible. Their "follow the target" range is I guess 300m, the same distance at which you can get shot by Forge guns, Railguns and Missile launchers. (I might be slightly off on that range, it might vary slightly from weapon to weapon IIRC) EDIT: I didn't see any other posts when I started writing all of this... lol I don't know how experienced you are flying an ADS, but it feels like 50% of the time, if not more, either I can't hear the swarms (audio glitch) or they don't render. Sometimes both. Without lock on warnings it's often too difficult to know if theres swarms after you. "Yyyyyyyyyyeayah gonna turn this guy I caught out in the open to a pile of a--" boom boom boom dafuq cuts ab on boom boom boom turns to go around building boom boom boom boom boom boom beep beep beep beep beep beep boom Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 2756	Posted - 2015.01.15 18:14:00 - [12] - Quote Atiim wrote: I agree, we should make the lock range 400m to even things out. Another bad idea by infantry. CCP want swarms to be area of denial, not whole map denial. Find another game to ruin. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 473	Posted - 2015.01.15 18:14:00 - [13] - Quote Atiim wrote: I agree, we should make the lock range 400m to even things out. 1. You have to keep lock on the target and guide the missiles towards it and if line of sight gets broken the missiles blow up
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 7059	Posted - 2015.01.15 18:27:00 - [14] - Quote ''Why can swarms travel past lock on range? '' *Because thanks to the QQ of vehicle drivers the Lock on range has been reduced to sht, and its so low that if the travel range would be equal Swarms would never hit an ADS. Playing as : Calscout + Amarr Assault**
Nirwanda Vaughns 1202	Posted - 2015.01.15 18:27:00 - [15] - Quote Makuta Miserix wrote: I don't even know what to say... people like the O.P are the reason for my sig give an idiot a forum and he shall ask stupid questions Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 2861	Posted - 2015.01.15 18:56:00 - [16] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: In my opinion the max travel distance for swarms should be equal to the lock on range which is i believe 175m. That way dropships actually could escape and not be doomed to death as soon a random guy fires 3 swarm volleys. Cool. ADSs get same 175m range for guns, with same lock-on time for shooting infantry, and we're dealing. Until then, walmart.com might have an indestructible death balloon you can order. This is a prototype-level sig. I worked hard for it, and I'm going to use it every time. So, just get used to it.
Stupid Blueberry Pure Evil. Capital Punishment. 934	Posted - 2015.01.15 19:41:00 - [17] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Bright Cloud wrote: In my opinion the max travel distance for swarms should be equal to the lock on range which is i believe 175m. That way dropships actually could escape and not be doomed to death as soon a random guy fires 3 swarm volleys. Cool. ADSs get same 175m range for guns, with same lock-on time for shooting infantry, and we're dealing. Until then, walmart.com might have an indestructible death balloon you can order. Oh, we ads pilots apologize. We didn't realize we were invisible to you. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.
Ku Shala The Generals 1135	Posted - 2015.01.15 19:53:00 - [18] - Quote a way to break the lock with maneuvering would be nice, flying low around a building and getting hit by swarms that followed you from halfway across the map is lame *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (CK-0 Specialist)* Caldari Loyalist Tiger Style
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7066	Posted - 2015.01.15 19:55:00 - [19] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Atiim wrote: I agree, we should make the lock range 400m to even things out. Another bad idea by infantry. CCP want swarms to be area of denial, not whole map denial. Find another game to ruin. At+»m was trying to troll the OP for making a ridiculous suggestion. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16598	Posted - 2015.01.15 19:58:00 - [20] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: What are you talking about? They always get away! Sounds like you're a pilot... TIP: As soon as you hear swarms getting launched, GTFO of there as fast as possible. Their "follow the target" range is I guess 300m, the same distance at which you can get shot by Forge guns, Railguns and Missile launchers. (I might be slightly off on that range, it might vary slightly from weapon to weapon IIRC) EDIT: I didn't see any other posts when I started writing all of this... lol You'd be surprised how easy it is in other games with arguably shorter vehicle TTK to get away from a combat zone, get out, rep your vehicle, and return to the fight. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.

Breakin Stuff Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 6461	Posted - 2015.01.15 20:05:00 - [21] - Quote True Adamance wrote: You'd be surprised how easy it is in other games with arguably shorter vehicle TTK to get away from a combat zone, get out, rep your vehicle, and return to the fight. that has more to do with weird core mechanics than anything. Also, found the logi tourist! Please cry directly into the bucket. -Ripley Riley
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 15076	Posted - 2015.01.15 20:06:00 - [22] - Quote Lazer Fo Cused wrote: Atiim wrote: I agree, we should make the lock range 400m to even things out. 1. You have to keep lock on the target and guide the missiles towards it and if line of sight gets broken the missiles blow up 1. Sure The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16598	Posted - 2015.01.15 20:11:00 - [23] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: True Adamance wrote: You'd be surprised how easy it is in other games with arguably shorter vehicle TTK to get away from a combat zone, get out, rep your vehicle, and return to the fight. that has more to do with weird core mechanics than anything. I don't see how. Defilade and Enfilade should be core terms in any tank user's operational manual. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 2861	Posted - 2015.01.15 20:16:00 - [24] - Quote Stupid Blueberry wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Bright Cloud wrote: In my opinion the max travel distance for swarms should be equal to the lock on range which is i believe 175m. That way dropships actually could escape and not be doomed to death as soon a random guy fires 3 swarm volleys. Cool. ADSs get same 175m range for guns, with same lock-on time for shooting infantry, and we're dealing. Until then, walmart.com might have an indestructible death balloon you can order. Oh, we ads pilots apologize. We didn't realize we were invisible to you. Well, now you know. This is a prototype-level sig. I worked hard for it, and I'm going to use it every time. So, just get used to it.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1710	Posted - 2015.01.15 21:48:00 - [25] - Quote Too many times we AV users are snuck upon my ADS / DS when they supposedly fixed the tacnet to detect vehicles better but it just isn't constant at all . It's the same for HAV's as well . I can't understand why you pilots can't hear the missiles as they travel towards you .?. I can and do and why don't you take defensive measures once you noticed that your hit ? There isn't much that can even reach you so you know that it's either a swarm , forge , railgun , missile turret or blaster turret and swarms make a distinctive sound when traveling . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
Union118 MONSTER SYNERGY 329	Posted - 2015.01.15 21:52:00 - [26] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: In my opinion the max travel distance for swarms should be equal to the lock on range which is i believe 175m. That way dropships actually could escape and not be doomed to death as soon a random guy fires 3 swarm volleys. Then dropships would hover over us and nothing would dmg it. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Stupid Blueberry Pure Evil. Capital Punishment. 941	Posted - 2015.01.15 21:55:00 - [27] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Too many times we AV users are snuck upon my ADS / DS when they supposedly fixed the tacnet to detect vehicles better but it just isn't constant at all . It's the same for HAV's as well . I can't understand why you pilots can't hear the missiles as they travel towards you .?. I can and do and why don't you take defensive measures once you noticed that your hit ? There isn't much that can even reach you so you know that it's either a swarm , forge , railgun , missile turret or blaster turret and swarms make a distinctive sound when traveling . Because they're bugged. Lots of time they make no sound and are invisible on top of that. Yeah the ads pilot spent so much time learning to fly the damn thing but they're too dumb to move out of the way if they hear or see swarms. Makes sense. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.
a brackers Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 89	Posted - 2015.01.15 21:56:00 - [28] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Bright Cloud wrote: In my opinion the max travel distance for swarms should be equal to the lock on range which is i believe 175m. That way dropships actually could escape and not be doomed to death as soon a random guy fires 3 swarm volleys. Cool. ADSs get same 175m range for guns, with same lock-on time for shooting infantry, and we're dealing. Until then, walmart.com might have an indestructible death balloon you can order. Ok fine, same lock on time so we get easy mode lock on missiles which will always head shot your target, even if it's behind a building, I'm perfectly happy with that Proto dropship pilot The sandbox shooter
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 2863	Posted - 2015.01.15 22:04:00 - [29] - Quote a brackers wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Bright Cloud wrote: In my opinion the max travel distance for swarms should be equal to the lock on range which is i believe 175m. That way dropships actually could escape and not be doomed to death as soon a random guy fires 3 swarm volleys. Cool. ADSs get same 175m range for guns, with same lock-on time for shooting infantry, and we're dealing. Until then, walmart.com might have an indestructible death balloon you can order. Ok fine, same lock on time so we get easy mode lock on missiles which will always head shot your target, even if it's behind a building, I'm perfectly happy with that You wanted to fly, Wendy. Learn how to fall. This is a prototype-level sig. I worked hard for it, and I'm going to use it every time. So, just get used to it.
a brackers Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 89	Posted - 2015.01.15 22:11:00 - [30] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: a brackers wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Bright Cloud wrote: In my opinion the max travel distance for swarms should be equal to the lock on range which is i believe 175m. That way dropships actually could escape and not be doomed to death as soon a random guy fires 3 swarm volleys. Cool. ADSs get same 175m range for guns, with same lock-on time for shooting infantry, and we're dealing. Until then, walmart.com might have an indestructible death balloon you can order. Ok fine, same lock on time so we get easy mode lock on missiles which will always head shot your target, even if it's behind a building, I'm perfectly happy with that You wanted to fly, Wendy. Learn how to fall. I think a guaranteed lost python every time a guy decides to get any swarms out has taught me well enough how to fall Proto dropship pilot The sandbox shooter



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