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Stupid Blueberry Pure Evil. Capital Punishment. 915	Posted - 2015.01.15 10:28:00 - [1] - Quote Okay, have we thought of just making them dumbfire again with a single round clip like the PLC? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 403	Posted - 2015.01.15 10:34:00 - [2] - Quote I've had it with these mother f*ing swarm posts on this mother fing forum! Drink until you can't drink no more. Then grab another bottle and drink some more!* - Demetrious 'Jonny' Buelle.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7057	Posted - 2015.01.15 10:41:00 - [3] - Quote Magazine not clip. Anyways, dumbfire should return with a 40m minimum arming distance. Given the small blast radius it would be like shooting very slow Breach Flaylock rounds with very low blast radii. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance 653	Posted - 2015.01.15 10:42:00 - [4] - Quote Stupid Blueberry wrote: Okay, have we thought of just making them dumbfire again with a single round clip like the PLC? And that would make it useless against dropships. Swarms are not OP. If you fit a vehicle properly you can get away from a proto swarmer fairly easily. However, it is harder for armour vehicles to get away as they have bad fitting room as well as not having good enough modules to protect against it. Not to mention they manoeuvre like a weighed down brick. Fix vehicles, don't touch AV.
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance 653	Posted - 2015.01.15 10:45:00 - [5] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Magazine not clip. Anyways, dumbfire should return with a 40m minimum arming distance. Given the small blast radius it would be like shooting very slow Breach Flaylock rounds with very low blast radii. No. Just No. Does a plasma cannon have to 40m away to deal damage?
Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 254	Posted - 2015.01.15 10:46:00 - [6] - Quote For your consideration
Nirwanda Vaughns 1202	Posted - 2015.01.15 11:00:00 - [7] - Quote I'd like to see more specialization/optimization skills to improve them than endless nerf/buffs. that way if someone has invested 2.5m SP into getting their swarms to lock at 250m then the vehicle drivers can't really complain (although we know they will). have each 'buff' specialization/optimization a 6x multiplier (same as the fitting optimization) in order to make them for truly dedicated roles. Swarm Launcher Range Optimization - 25m per level to Swarm Laucnher Lock Range Swarm Launcher Missile Fuel Optimization - 10% per level to Flight Time on Missiles others could be done for other weapons too, Sniper rifles get a zoom optimization, forge gunners +1 round in the clip, rail rilfes a cycle time reduction ect in order to help players that want to truly max out their wepaons effectivness it would also be nice ot get some kinda of anti vehicle EWAR, i've mentioned a Stasis Webbifier type equipment for some time now that acts liek a rep tool but you lock onto an enemy vehicle and it slows the top speed by a certain percentage depending on the meta level of the webber. It would do several things. the logi has to be in a certain range depending on metal level and in clear view. logi is vulnerable to infantry tanks are encouraged to use a secondary gunner or stick to infantry. slows tanks get away times unless the EWAR infantry is taken care of, just as in eve where a battleship can be locked in place by an interceptor. Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
xavier zor Rogue Instincts 416	Posted - 2015.01.15 11:27:00 - [8] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Stupid Blueberry wrote: Okay, have we thought of just making them dumbfire again with a single round clip like the PLC? And that would make it useless against dropships. Swarms are not OP. If you fit a vehicle properly you can get away from a proto swarmer fairly easily. However, it is harder for armour vehicles to get away as they have bad fitting room as well as not having good enough modules to protect against it. Not to mention they manoeuvre like a weighed down brick. Fix vehicles, don't touch AV. lol i stopped reading after swarms are not OP they are VERY OP. My triple-repped madrugar was solo'd in 12 seconds by a swarmer, NOT EVEN A MINMANDO! I ran away obviously but he was on a rooftop. Official Ishokune supporter Knifed duna2002's tank, then the mercenary himself
Stupid Blueberry Pure Evil. Capital Punishment. 916	Posted - 2015.01.15 11:29:00 - [9] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Stupid Blueberry wrote: Okay, have we thought of just making them dumbfire again with a single round clip like the PLC? And that would make it useless against dropships. Swarms are not OP. If you fit a vehicle properly you can get away from a proto swarmer fairly easily. However, it is harder for armour vehicles to get away as they have bad fitting room as well as not having good enough modules to protect against it. Not to mention they manoeuvre like a weighed down brick. Fix vehicles, don't touch AV. lol i stopped reading after swarms are not OP they are VERY OP. My triple-repped madrugar was solo'd in 12 seconds by a swarmer, NOT EVEN A MINMANDO! I ran away obviously but he was on a rooftop. Dude go somewhere else with that story triple rep maddy is a bad fit. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7060	Posted - 2015.01.15 11:34:00 - [10] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Magazine not clip. Anyways, dumbfire should return with a 40m minimum arming distance. Given the small blast radius it would be like shooting very slow Breach Flaylock rounds with very low blast radii. No. Just No. Does a plasma cannon have to 40m away to deal damage? No, but a Plasma Cannon doesn't shoot a hive of missiles in one shot. No one would appreciate having to deal with an explosive shotgun: the MD already does that. Anyways 40m isn't that far anyways as it is only double shotgun distance. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.

Stupid Blueberry Pure Evil. Capital Punishment. 916	Posted - 2015.01.15 11:35:00 - [11] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Magazine not clip. Anyways, dumbfire should return with a 40m minimum arming distance. Given the small blast radius it would be like shooting very slow Breach Flaylock rounds with very low blast radii. No. Just No. Does a plasma cannon have to 40m away to deal damage? No, but a Plasma Cannon doesn't shoot a hive of missiles in one shot. No one would appreciate having to deal with an explosive shotgun: the MD already does that. Anyways 40m isn't that far anyways as it is only double shotgun distance. I'm talking about just one big missile. I should edit OP. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.
xavier zor Rogue Instincts 416	Posted - 2015.01.15 11:36:00 - [12] - Quote Stupid Blueberry wrote: xavier zor wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Stupid Blueberry wrote: Okay, have we thought of just making them dumbfire again with a single round clip like the PLC? And that would make it useless against dropships. Swarms are not OP. If you fit a vehicle properly you can get away from a proto swarmer fairly easily. However, it is harder for armour vehicles to get away as they have bad fitting room as well as not having good enough modules to protect against it. Not to mention they manoeuvre like a weighed down brick. Fix vehicles, don't touch AV. lol i stopped reading after swarms are not OP they are VERY OP. My triple-repped madrugar was solo'd in 12 seconds by a swarmer, NOT EVEN A MINMANDO! I ran away obviously but he was on a rooftop. Dude go somewhere else with that story triple rep maddy is a bad fit. It is great compared to a hardened gunnlogi for engaging blaster turrets dont ** me up in my madrugar. If a blaster engages me in my madrugar i can just sit there and tank the damage. I can't in my gunnlogi, i have to activate my hardeners. If i get swarmed in my madrugar, i can just run away and come back at 4000 armor whenever the i want. I have to activate my hardeners on my gunnlogi, kill him then if i want to engage wait 80 seconds. If i engage another tank in my madrugar, i can take cover, and rep in just over 13 seconds. I can repeat this over and over. I can't in my gunnlogi, i have to activate hardeners, tank damage then wait 80 seconds. see what i mean? Gunnlogi playstyle is redline ***, madrugar playstyle is the opposite Official Ishokune supporter Knifed duna2002's tank, then the mercenary himself
Stupid Blueberry Pure Evil. Capital Punishment. 916	Posted - 2015.01.15 11:38:00 - [13] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Stupid Blueberry wrote: xavier zor wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Stupid Blueberry wrote: Okay, have we thought of just making them dumbfire again with a single round clip like the PLC? And that would make it useless against dropships. Swarms are not OP. If you fit a vehicle properly you can get away from a proto swarmer fairly easily. However, it is harder for armour vehicles to get away as they have bad fitting room as well as not having good enough modules to protect against it. Not to mention they manoeuvre like a weighed down brick. Fix vehicles, don't touch AV. lol i stopped reading after swarms are not OP they are VERY OP. My triple-repped madrugar was solo'd in 12 seconds by a swarmer, NOT EVEN A MINMANDO! I ran away obviously but he was on a rooftop. Dude go somewhere else with that story triple rep maddy is a bad fit. It is great compared to a hardened gunnlogi for engaging blaster turrets dont ** me up in my madrugar. If a blaster engages me in my madrugar i can just sit there and tank the damage. I can't in my gunnlogi, i have to activate my hardeners. If i get swarmed in my madrugar, i can just run away and come back at 4000 armor whenever the * i want.* I have to activate my hardeners on my gunnlogi, kill him then if i want to engage wait 80 seconds. If i engage another tank in my madrugar, i can take cover, and rep in just over 13 seconds. I can repeat this over and over. I can't in my gunnlogi, i have to activate hardeners, tank damage then wait 80 seconds. see what i mean? Gunnlogi playstyle is redline *****, madrugar playstyle is the opposite Obviously not since you've posted this same sob story in 3 threads already. You know what an XT-201 is? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.
xavier zor Rogue Instincts 416	Posted - 2015.01.15 11:55:00 - [14] - Quote Stupid Blueberry wrote: xavier zor wrote: It is great compared to a hardened gunnlogi for engaging blaster turrets dont ** me up in my madrugar. If a blaster engages me in my madrugar i can just sit there and tank the damage. I can't in my gunnlogi, i have to activate my hardeners. If i get swarmed in my madrugar, i can just run away and come back at 4000 armor whenever the * i want.* I have to activate my hardeners on my gunnlogi, kill him then if i want to engage wait 80 seconds. If i engage another tank in my madrugar, i can take cover, and rep in just over 13 seconds. I can repeat this over and over. I can't in my gunnlogi, i have to activate hardeners, tank damage then wait 80 seconds. see what i mean? Gunnlogi playstyle is redline ***, madrugar playstyle is the opposite Obviously not since you've posted this same sob story in 3 threads already. You know what an XT-201 is? yeah, its a secret message saying 'put away your madrugar, pull out your gunnlogi' They usually kill someone, before hunting me down, which gives me a warning. in before you say 'tanker *' Its called being smart. And yes, i don't give a ** how many times i tell people how OP swarms are now STFU Official Ishokune supporter Knifed duna2002's tank, then the mercenary himself
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance 654	Posted - 2015.01.15 11:56:00 - [15] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Magazine not clip. Anyways, dumbfire should return with a 40m minimum arming distance. Given the small blast radius it would be like shooting very slow Breach Flaylock rounds with very low blast radii. No. Just No. Does a plasma cannon have to 40m away to deal damage? No, but a Plasma Cannon doesn't shoot a hive of missiles in one shot. No one would appreciate having to deal with an explosive shotgun: the MD already does that. Anyways 40m isn't that far anyways as it is only double shotgun distance. Shotty optimal is 10 metres. To stop it from being an explosive shotgun, you make splash damage small.
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance 654	Posted - 2015.01.15 11:58:00 - [16] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Stupid Blueberry wrote: Okay, have we thought of just making them dumbfire again with a single round clip like the PLC? And that would make it useless against dropships. Swarms are not OP. If you fit a vehicle properly you can get away from a proto swarmer fairly easily. However, it is harder for armour vehicles to get away as they have bad fitting room as well as not having good enough modules to protect against it. Not to mention they manoeuvre like a weighed down brick. Fix vehicles, don't touch AV. lol i stopped reading after swarms are not OP they are VERY OP. My triple-repped madrugar was solo'd in 12 seconds by a swarmer, NOT EVEN A MINMANDO! I ran away obviously but he was on a rooftop. You would have been back at full armour by the time he had reloaded. So don't talk ****.
Stupid Blueberry Pure Evil. Capital Punishment. 917	Posted - 2015.01.15 12:02:00 - [17] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Magazine not clip. Anyways, dumbfire should return with a 40m minimum arming distance. Given the small blast radius it would be like shooting very slow Breach Flaylock rounds with very low blast radii. No. Just No. Does a plasma cannon have to 40m away to deal damage? No, but a Plasma Cannon doesn't shoot a hive of missiles in one shot. No one would appreciate having to deal with an explosive shotgun: the MD already does that. Anyways 40m isn't that far anyways as it is only double shotgun distance. Shotty optimal is 10 metres. To stop it from being an explosive shotgun, you make splash damage small. Thank you I was was just worried about this. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.
xavier zor Rogue Instincts 416	Posted - 2015.01.15 12:03:00 - [18] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: xavier zor wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Stupid Blueberry wrote: Okay, have we thought of just making them dumbfire again with a single round clip like the PLC? And that would make it useless against dropships. Swarms are not OP. If you fit a vehicle properly you can get away from a proto swarmer fairly easily. However, it is harder for armour vehicles to get away as they have bad fitting room as well as not having good enough modules to protect against it. Not to mention they manoeuvre like a weighed down brick. Fix vehicles, don't touch AV. lol i stopped reading after swarms are not OP they are VERY OP. My triple-repped madrugar was solo'd in 12 seconds by a swarmer, NOT EVEN A MINMANDO! I ran away obviously but he was on a rooftop. You would have been back at full armour by the time he had reloaded. So don't talk ****. AHAHAHHAHA look in previous threads i did the math, i was blown up i ACTUALY know what im talking about Official Ishokune supporter Knifed duna2002's tank, then the mercenary himself
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance 656	Posted - 2015.01.15 12:07:00 - [19] - Quote No you don't. A triple rep Maddy does not get killed by one guy on a roof. It would take about 3 seconds for each volley to hit you due to travel time by which time you would have repped near 1000hp. Then during the reload you would be close to full HP. You are talking rubbish.
xavier zor Rogue Instincts 416	Posted - 2015.01.15 12:10:00 - [20] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: No you don't. A triple rep Maddy does not get killed by one guy on a roof. It would take about 3 seconds for each volley to hit you due to travel time by which time you would have repped near 1000hp. Then during the reload you would be close to full HP. You are talking rubbish. 1900+ damage per hit (can't remember off the top of my head) i had no shield, just armor 300 reps/second obviously i am ****** at 4000 armor edit: i was about 40 metres from him when they hit Official Ishokune supporter Knifed duna2002's tank, then the mercenary himself

WARxion ForDUST G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 328	Posted - 2015.01.15 12:11:00 - [21] - Quote Sir Dukey comes in crying in 3... 2... 1... Yes, I'm that desperate...
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance 658	Posted - 2015.01.15 12:20:00 - [22] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: No you don't. A triple rep Maddy does not get killed by one guy on a roof. It would take about 3 seconds for each volley to hit you due to travel time by which time you would have repped near 1000hp. Then during the reload you would be close to full HP. You are talking rubbish. 1900+ damage per hit (can't remember off the top of my head) i had no shield, just armor 300 reps/second obviously i am ****** at 4000 armor edit: i was about 40 metres from him when they hit So the guy didn't get rid of your shields first? What did then? Magic? He would only have got 2 shots into your armour, as soon as the first swarm hit did you not think to run?
Stupid Blueberry Pure Evil. Capital Punishment. 918	Posted - 2015.01.15 12:21:00 - [23] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: xavier zor wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: No you don't. A triple rep Maddy does not get killed by one guy on a roof. It would take about 3 seconds for each volley to hit you due to travel time by which time you would have repped near 1000hp. Then during the reload you would be close to full HP. You are talking rubbish. 1900+ damage per hit (can't remember off the top of my head) i had no shield, just armor 300 reps/second obviously i am ****** at 4000 armor edit: i was about 40 metres from him when they hit So the guy didn't get rid of your shields first? What did then? Magic? He would only have got 2 shots into your armour, as soon as the first swarm hit did you not think to run? Please no derail, please. Common knowledge is that that fit doesn't die to swarms but it's just a bad overall fit. We done? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance 658	Posted - 2015.01.15 12:23:00 - [24] - Quote Sorry, I just hate people talking complete rubbish. It took 12 seconds to kill him, in which time he could have got back to his redline, repped up and came back.
Stupid Blueberry Pure Evil. Capital Punishment. 918	Posted - 2015.01.15 12:23:00 - [25] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Magazine not clip. Anyways, dumbfire should return with a 40m minimum arming distance. Given the small blast radius it would be like shooting very slow Breach Flaylock rounds with very low blast radii. Oh yeah, IRL a RPG has to travel a certain number of revolutions before it will detonate to keep you from killing yourself. There's your lore explanation for this 40m arming distance. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 332	Posted - 2015.01.15 12:26:00 - [26] - Quote How about we make swarms just like a modern day RPG only you have to type "allahu akbar" three times before firing? I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance 658	Posted - 2015.01.15 12:28:00 - [27] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: How about we make swarms just like a modern day RPG only you have to type "allahu akbar" three times before firing? Come on. No need for that.
Stupid Blueberry Pure Evil. Capital Punishment. 918	Posted - 2015.01.15 12:28:00 - [28] - Quote Not cool. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.
xavier zor Rogue Instincts 416	Posted - 2015.01.15 12:29:00 - [29] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: xavier zor wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: No you don't. A triple rep Maddy does not get killed by one guy on a roof. It would take about 3 seconds for each volley to hit you due to travel time by which time you would have repped near 1000hp. Then during the reload you would be close to full HP. You are talking rubbish. 1900+ damage per hit (can't remember off the top of my head) i had no shield, just armor 300 reps/second obviously i am ****** at 4000 armor edit: i was about 40 metres from him when they hit So the guy didn't get rid of your shields first? What did then? Magic? He would only have got 2 shots into your armour, as soon as the first swarm hit did you not think to run? he was on a rooftop, there was no-where to run dude, swarms are over-powered, so stop crying and git gud when swarms get nerfed its only a matter of time ^epic movie quote p.s a triple-repped madrugar isn't a bad fit, it might suck (have no chance) against a dual-hardened gunnlogi, but it fits my playstyle of i'm not a redline tanker wuss like many others Official Ishokune supporter Knifed duna2002's tank, then the mercenary himself
Stupid Blueberry Pure Evil. Capital Punishment. 918	Posted - 2015.01.15 12:31:00 - [30] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: xavier zor wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: No you don't. A triple rep Maddy does not get killed by one guy on a roof. It would take about 3 seconds for each volley to hit you due to travel time by which time you would have repped near 1000hp. Then during the reload you would be close to full HP. You are talking rubbish. 1900+ damage per hit (can't remember off the top of my head) i had no shield, just armor 300 reps/second obviously i am ****** at 4000 armor edit: i was about 40 metres from him when they hit So the guy didn't get rid of your shields first? What did then? Magic? He would only have got 2 shots into your armour, as soon as the first swarm hit did you not think to run? he was on a rooftop, there was no-where to run dude, swarms are over-powered, so stop crying and git gud when swarms get nerfed its only a matter of time ^epic movie quote >crying Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.



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