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Stupid Blueberry
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Posted - 2015.01.15 10:28:00 -
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Okay, have we thought of just making them dumbfire again with a single round clip like the PLC?
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Stupid Blueberry
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Posted - 2015.01.15 11:29:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:Okay, have we thought of just making them dumbfire again with a single round clip like the PLC? And that would make it useless against dropships. Swarms are not OP. If you fit a vehicle properly you can get away from a proto swarmer fairly easily. However, it is harder for armour vehicles to get away as they have bad fitting room as well as not having good enough modules to protect against it. Not to mention they manoeuvre like a weighed down brick. Fix vehicles, don't touch AV. lol i stopped reading after swarms are not OP they are VERY OP. My triple-repped madrugar was solo'd in 12 seconds by a swarmer, NOT EVEN A MINMANDO! I ran away obviously but he was on a rooftop.
Dude go somewhere else with that story triple rep maddy is a bad fit.
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Stupid Blueberry
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Posted - 2015.01.15 11:35:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Magazine not clip.
Anyways, dumbfire should return with a 40m minimum arming distance. Given the small blast radius it would be like shooting very slow Breach Flaylock rounds with very low blast radii. No. Just No. Does a plasma cannon have to 40m away to deal damage? No, but a Plasma Cannon doesn't shoot a hive of missiles in one shot. No one would appreciate having to deal with an explosive shotgun: the MD already does that. Anyways 40m isn't that far anyways as it is only double shotgun distance.
I'm talking about just one big missile. I should edit OP.
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Posted - 2015.01.15 11:38:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:xavier zor wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:Okay, have we thought of just making them dumbfire again with a single round clip like the PLC? And that would make it useless against dropships. Swarms are not OP. If you fit a vehicle properly you can get away from a proto swarmer fairly easily. However, it is harder for armour vehicles to get away as they have bad fitting room as well as not having good enough modules to protect against it. Not to mention they manoeuvre like a weighed down brick. Fix vehicles, don't touch AV. lol i stopped reading after swarms are not OP they are VERY OP. My triple-repped madrugar was solo'd in 12 seconds by a swarmer, NOT EVEN A MINMANDO! I ran away obviously but he was on a rooftop. Dude go somewhere else with that story triple rep maddy is a bad fit. It is great compared to a hardened gunnlogi for engaging blaster turrets dont **** me up in my madrugar. If a blaster engages me in my madrugar i can just sit there and tank the damage. I can't in my gunnlogi, i have to activate my hardeners. If i get swarmed in my madrugar, i can just run away and come back at 4000 armor whenever the **** i want. I have to activate my hardeners on my gunnlogi, kill him then if i want to engage wait 80 seconds. If i engage another tank in my madrugar, i can take cover, and rep in just over 13 seconds. I can repeat this over and over. I can't in my gunnlogi, i have to activate hardeners, tank damage then wait 80 seconds. see what i mean? Gunnlogi playstyle is redline *****, madrugar playstyle is the opposite
Obviously not since you've posted this same sob story in 3 threads already. You know what an XT-201 is?
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Posted - 2015.01.15 12:02:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Magazine not clip.
Anyways, dumbfire should return with a 40m minimum arming distance. Given the small blast radius it would be like shooting very slow Breach Flaylock rounds with very low blast radii. No. Just No. Does a plasma cannon have to 40m away to deal damage? No, but a Plasma Cannon doesn't shoot a hive of missiles in one shot. No one would appreciate having to deal with an explosive shotgun: the MD already does that. Anyways 40m isn't that far anyways as it is only double shotgun distance. Shotty optimal is 10 metres. To stop it from being an explosive shotgun, you make splash damage small.
Thank you I was was just worried about this.
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Posted - 2015.01.15 12:21:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:xavier zor wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:No you don't. A triple rep Maddy does not get killed by one guy on a roof. It would take about 3 seconds for each volley to hit you due to travel time by which time you would have repped near 1000hp. Then during the reload you would be close to full HP. You are talking rubbish. 1900+ damage per hit (can't remember off the top of my head) i had no shield, just armor 300 reps/second obviously i am ****** at 4000 armor edit: i was about 40 metres from him when they hit So the guy didn't get rid of your shields first? What did then? Magic? He would only have got 2 shots into your armour, as soon as the first swarm hit did you not think to run?
Please no derail, please. Common knowledge is that that fit doesn't die to swarms but it's just a bad overall fit. We done?
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Stupid Blueberry
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Posted - 2015.01.15 12:23:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Magazine not clip.
Anyways, dumbfire should return with a 40m minimum arming distance. Given the small blast radius it would be like shooting very slow Breach Flaylock rounds with very low blast radii.
Oh yeah, IRL a RPG has to travel a certain number of revolutions before it will detonate to keep you from killing yourself. There's your lore explanation for this 40m arming distance.
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Posted - 2015.01.15 12:28:00 -
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Not cool.
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Stupid Blueberry
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Posted - 2015.01.15 12:31:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:xavier zor wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:No you don't. A triple rep Maddy does not get killed by one guy on a roof. It would take about 3 seconds for each volley to hit you due to travel time by which time you would have repped near 1000hp. Then during the reload you would be close to full HP. You are talking rubbish. 1900+ damage per hit (can't remember off the top of my head) i had no shield, just armor 300 reps/second obviously i am ****** at 4000 armor edit: i was about 40 metres from him when they hit So the guy didn't get rid of your shields first? What did then? Magic? He would only have got 2 shots into your armour, as soon as the first swarm hit did you not think to run? he was on a rooftop, there was no-where to run dude, swarms are over-powered, so stop crying and git gud when swarms get nerfed its only a matter of time ^epic movie quote
>crying
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Posted - 2015.01.15 13:42:00 -
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Lazer guided would be UP against ground vehicles.
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Stupid Blueberry
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Posted - 2015.01.15 13:44:00 -
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Nonoriri ko wrote:Reload times are not a reliable argument with swarms
as you can equip 2 with commando.
6 shots before having to reload.
I don't have max ammo specced yet, hmmm is 8 shots before reloading possible?
Also swarms are not OP, all single projectile can miss if you just hide behind something.
Its safer to fly down that to fly up. Hide behind anything.
There is one balance issue that should be corrected. Tanks can only aim up about 30-45 degrees?
If tanks could aim up and not have main turret restricted,
they could target people up on rooftops.
Only way you could get 8 shots is 2 Beacon's launchers. Ammo capacity adds to the ammo reserve, not the magazine. And no, hiding behind things doesn't work anymore thanks to the way swarms track things now.
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Posted - 2015.01.15 13:45:00 -
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Lazer Fo Cused wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:Lazer guided would be UP against ground vehicles. 1. How? 2. If i actually go behind cover it will not avoid it and they will lose lock and the missile will blow up
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Posted - 2015.01.15 13:52:00 -
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Dude what are you talking about?
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