You wasted you time typing up this? lmfao no that is just stupid as hell If sheilds get a damage threshhod then armor regen needs to be increased by 2 complex armor reps worth.

A good suggestion made a long time ago, was introducing a small damage threshold that needs to be broken, to prevent shields from regenerating under fire.
I encourage such a fix.

I would suggest putting this 'prevention threshold' at about 100 damage. At a distance, very low damage won't stop regeneration, and up close, you'll need to put 3-4 rounds in with an AR, and really get some good hits in with an HMG or SMG, to stop the regen.

This will help higher alpha weapons to shine at range like they should, rather than CRs.


I would also suggest removing headshot damage multipliers while shields are up and active. The concept of headshot vulnerability revolves around the deficiencies of armor, not energy shielding. Why would energy shielding be weaker around the cranium, than it would around the hand or leg?
Considering the volatile nature of shields in this game, they shouldn't have so critical a weakness.
So I would suggest a modifier that negates headshot damage multipliers, but gradually allows them as shields level drop; so that actually shooting at a shielded targets head isn't totally useless. When armor is finally exposed 100% of your weapon's headshot bonus is available.

I would also recommend removing the Recharge Delay penalties that exist on Shield Extenders, and increasing the recharging power of Energizers by 20% of their current bonus (read: BY 20% of the CURRENT bonus, NOT 20 actual percentage points).

I also recommend improving the performance of Shield Regulators by 30% of their current numbers, for serious shield bounce back delay.

These changes will allow shields to be VERY fearsome to face with their recharge speed, and give them unprecedented dominance in open field combat. To kill a shielder efficiently, you will need higher alpha at range, eagle eye accuracy, or you will need to close distance.



TL;DR
- Damage threshold to prevent shield recharge.
- Dampener on headshot damage received until shields depleted.
- Removal of recharge delay penalty on extenders.
- Buffing recharge power of Energizers by 20% of current numbers.
- Buffing shield regulators by 30% of their current numbers.

You wasted you time typing up this? lmfao no that is just stupid as hell If sheilds get a damage threshhod then armor regen needs to be increased by 2 complex armor reps worth.

A good suggestion made a long time ago, was introducing a small damage threshold that needs to be broken, to prevent shields from regenerating under fire.
I encourage such a fix.

I would suggest putting this 'prevention threshold' at about 100 damage. At a distance, very low damage won't stop regeneration, and up close, you'll need to put 3-4 rounds in with an AR, and really get some good hits in with an HMG or SMG, to stop the regen.

This will help higher alpha weapons to shine at range like they should, rather than CRs.


I would also suggest removing headshot damage multipliers while shields are up and active. The concept of headshot vulnerability revolves around the deficiencies of armor, not energy shielding. Why would energy shielding be weaker around the cranium, than it would around the hand or leg?
Considering the volatile nature of shields in this game, they shouldn't have so critical a weakness.
So I would suggest a modifier that negates headshot damage multipliers, but gradually allows them as shields level drop; so that actually shooting at a shielded targets head isn't totally useless. When armor is finally exposed 100% of your weapon's headshot bonus is available.

I would also recommend removing the Recharge Delay penalties that exist on Shield Extenders, and increasing the recharging power of Energizers by 20% of their current bonus (read: BY 20% of the CURRENT bonus, NOT 20 actual percentage points).

I also recommend improving the performance of Shield Regulators by 30% of their current numbers, for serious shield bounce back delay.

These changes will allow shields to be VERY fearsome to face with their recharge speed, and give them unprecedented dominance in open field combat. To kill a shielder efficiently, you will need higher alpha at range, eagle eye accuracy, or you will need to close distance.



TL;DR
- Damage threshold to prevent shield recharge.
- Dampener on headshot damage received until shields depleted.
- Removal of recharge delay penalty on extenders.
- Buffing recharge power of Energizers by 20% of current numbers.
- Buffing shield regulators by 30% of their current numbers.

Seems everyone got caught up with the headshot modifier.

It was meant to work as a system of 'the more damage done to the shield, the more damage done to the head'.
And was meant as a sweetener for shields. Something that makes them appealing and important to consider, even for armor suits.
Just as armor reps can be considered universally important. Shield regulation, getting your shields back would be considered universally important. A way of better protecting your head, and being able to shave damage off of a few initial rounds.

Seems everyone got caught up with the headshot modifier.

It was meant to work as a system of 'the more damage done to the shield, the more damage done to the head'.
And was meant as a sweetener for shields. Something that makes them appealing and important to consider, even for armor suits.
Just as armor reps can be considered universally important. Shield regulation, getting your shields back would be considered universally important. A way of better protecting your head, and being able to shave damage off of a few initial rounds.

EDIT: Considering long range combat is something that the Caldari specialize in, I would imagine, they would make sure that sufficient protection exists.

The dampening would be percentage based. The percent of shield HP remaining = the percent of headshot damage dampened.

This would make Caldari and Min suits especially ideal for open field and ranged combat.

TL;DR
- Damage threshold to prevent shield recharge. YES
- Dampener on headshot damage received until shields depleted. No
- Removal of recharge delay penalty on extenders. No
- Buffing recharge power of Energizers by 20% of current numbers. No, 20% buff is too much
- Buffing shield regulators by 30% of their current numbers. Yes

I'd say just start with the threshold. But not 100. Start with 25-75 depending on frame size, with the larger frames receiving the larger threshold.A Scrambler bolt would and should halt the regen

reason?

a scrambler bolt can kill you in one shot if you aim it correctly. Why is this a concern?

ikr? I don't think he means the charged shot as it's obvious that it would stop the regen.

1. Threshold should be 10% of total shields. An amarr suit shouldn't have the same threshold as a Caldari
2. +1 to rechargers, energizers, and regulators buff. Its necessary ATM for the regen between shield and armor to be balanced.
3. Weapon profiles need to be looked at. Id like to change them around to +5/-5 for plasma, -5/+5 for rail, -10/+10 for projectile, +10/-10 for scrambler, -15/+15 for explosive, and +15/-15 for beam laser.

I suggest damage thresholds be more variable than a flat 100.

To weaken dual tanking, I would like to see this stat be significantly weaker on Amarr and Gallente suits than it is on Caldari and Minmatar suits.

a scrambler bolt can kill you in one shot if you aim it correctly. Why is this a concern?

-snip much discussion of what the threshold should be-

There is such a thing as overcomplicating matters.

Just having base suit numbers for thresholds will do fine, I think. The only complication that might be worth looking into would be regulators - would they affect the threshold?

In the end, I don't think the exact numbers matter much. It's more to prevent the odd plink from preventing shield recharge completely.