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Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1747	Posted - 2015.01.12 14:06:00 - [31] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: SirManBoy wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We may unlock the suits so that they have the exact necessary fitting space with zero skills to use, and then players can arrange within that boundary. I have always liked the idea of being able to customize the Apex suits with the BPO mods and weapons you own. And that would make APEx suits so terrobly powerful. Face it, standard suits rock when you fit them with thought - even with standard level gear. When comparing those two, the APEX with standard gear >>> Standard with standard gear. It is just plain simply better, nothing worse, AND without worry for suit loss. STD BPOs can be fit with complex mods if you have the skills to support it though.
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries 742	Posted - 2015.01.12 14:11:00 - [32] - Quote i think the apex suits should be able to use any module in any order as long is its basic. id rather use an armor rep instead of 2 shield regs on my state kampo logi. and another exender instead of 2 rechargers LogicGäó
DozersMouse XIII Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 918	Posted - 2015.01.12 14:33:00 - [33] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: DozersMouse XIII wrote: yes i'd like to rearrange the cloak and remote on my dragon scout and i'm sure the logi's suits are n need of the same tweaking Nobody is going to touch the Logi. especially the gal Logi = NO Leave as is. don't want to mess with it just be able to move around the pre fitted equip "I had no idea you could milk a cat." "Oh yeah, you can milk anything with nipples."
Breakin Stuff Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 6318	Posted - 2015.01.12 15:11:00 - [34] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We may unlock the suits so that they have the exact necessary fitting space with zero skills to use, and then players can arrange within that boundary. is it possible to make it so that the apex suit is unaffected by the players skills. i.e it only has base stats/fitting. this way its still good to run. but impossible to have a complete advantage against other isk/bpo suits. sure you could swap out that STD ar for a ADV or proto weapon but it would run the risk of making the fit invalid. That's the question, I need to research how much I can theoretically fit with all level 5 skills. Rattati use the same coding that prevents heavy weapons being placed on smaller suits to lock them to militia and standard class weapons and modules. I can fit an Ishukone Assault Forge gun on a quafe suit and still rock a full rack of militia BPOs. Restrict the APEX suits to meta 1 or meta 2 and it doesn't matter how much you can fit with level 5 skills. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2995	Posted - 2015.01.12 15:19:00 - [35] - Quote Yea it would seem people like the idea of being able to customise them but only with limited level of meta items. That seems to make sense to me. Is it possible to restrict them to standard modules? Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Kain Spero Internal Error. 4171	Posted - 2015.01.12 22:23:00 - [36] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Yea it would seem people like the idea of being able to customise them but only with limited level of meta items. That seems to make sense to me. Is it possible to restrict them to standard modules? I'm beginning to wonder if that is even needed if you restrict the CPU and PG output. I was thinking about the upcoming "keep what you kill" changes to battle rewards as well and I think that making APEX moddable will in many cases make them actually have some associated ISK cost. If keep what you kill goes out and everyone is running free suits it kinda defeats the purpose, but if most people are running modules that have cost even in their BPO suits then it would still feed into the system. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
thehellisgoingon The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 122	Posted - 2015.01.12 23:00:00 - [37] - Quote I'm down with being able to rename the suit. I like to organize my very minimal amount of fittings. Oh what did u say? More fittings? Oh yea sounds good.
Union118 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 271	Posted - 2015.01.12 23:05:00 - [38] - Quote E-Rock wrote: I feel that with the APEX suits that you should be able to move modules and rename the suit in order 1) place suits in your loadouts where you would like them to be and 2) be able to move equipment in the order you would like. I.e. scouts can change the order of R.E.s and you cloak. Thoughts? Comments? Dont change modules but relocate the prefitted modules around. I agree to both. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Nirwanda Vaughns 1201	Posted - 2015.01.13 00:59:00 - [39] - Quote dragon vX.1 scout has far too much ewar. would be nice to drop a damp for a range amp. all that precision and no range to actually use it Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
E-Rock Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 22	Posted - 2015.01.13 02:29:00 - [40] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We may unlock the suits so that they have the exact necessary fitting space with zero skills to use, and then players can arrange within that boundary. and what about renaming the suits so we can put them in different spots in our loadout lists? The Japanese players call "hate mail", "fan mail".pÇÇµùÑµ£¼F¬PsñºS+êsñ½ -Founder of CKC and UCKC -Molon Labe

Mike Ox Bigger KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 619	Posted - 2015.01.13 02:46:00 - [41] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We may unlock the suits so that they have the exact necessary fitting space with zero skills to use, and then players can arrange within that boundary. is it possible to make it so that the apex suit is unaffected by the players skills. i.e it only has base stats/fitting. this way its still good to run. but impossible to have a complete advantage against other isk/bpo suits. sure you could swap out that STD ar for a ADV or proto weapon but it would run the risk of making the fit invalid. That's the question, I need to research how much I can theoretically fit with all level 5 skills. Plus you have to make sure scouts can't take off the cloak and use more of the suit. I smoke two joints before I smoke two joints, then I smoke two more.
killian178 Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 74	Posted - 2015.01.13 03:15:00 - [42] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We may unlock the suits so that they have the exact necessary fitting space with zero skills to use, and then players can arrange within that boundary. Oh happy day Every commando k.o, every weapon at adv or above. Don't give a damn bout my kdr, I will kill you.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10732	Posted - 2015.01.13 04:26:00 - [43] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We may unlock the suits so that they have the exact necessary fitting space with zero skills to use, and then players can arrange within that boundary. is it possible to make it so that the apex suit is unaffected by the players skills. i.e it only has base stats/fitting. this way its still good to run. but impossible to have a complete advantage against other isk/bpo suits. sure you could swap out that STD ar for a ADV or proto weapon but it would run the risk of making the fit invalid. I'm not comfortable with this. I invested a lot into getting these suits and I'm not talking about money here. I had to grind for the faction variants. If these suits cost me 10 Million ISK and 100,000 LPs without the help of any LP Boosters then I expect to see my skill book bonuses apply to them. Especially since the 'Quafe' Scout Mk.0 BPO already applies my bonuses to it. Not just that, but also the suits are not categorized by frame size but rather by roles. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10732	Posted - 2015.01.13 04:28:00 - [44] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We may unlock the suits so that they have the exact necessary fitting space with zero skills to use, and then players can arrange within that boundary. is it possible to make it so that the apex suit is unaffected by the players skills. i.e it only has base stats/fitting. this way its still good to run. but impossible to have a complete advantage against other isk/bpo suits. sure you could swap out that STD ar for a ADV or proto weapon but it would run the risk of making the fit invalid. That's the question, I need to research how much I can theoretically fit with all level 5 skills. Plus you have to make sure scouts can't take off the cloak and use more of the suit. That's another problem. The scout bonus to cloak fitting requirement would shoot through the roof if the APEX scouts are put into the Frame category rather than the Roles category. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10732	Posted - 2015.01.13 04:32:00 - [45] - Quote SirManBoy wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We may unlock the suits so that they have the exact necessary fitting space with zero skills to use, and then players can arrange within that boundary. I have always liked the idea of being able to customize the Apex suits with the BPO mods and weapons you own. On paper that looks like a great idea. But how would that turn out if implemented? On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles. 2486	Posted - 2015.01.13 18:25:00 - [46] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: SirManBoy wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We may unlock the suits so that they have the exact necessary fitting space with zero skills to use, and then players can arrange within that boundary. I have always liked the idea of being able to customize the Apex suits with the BPO mods and weapons you own. On paper that looks like a great idea. But how would that turn out if implemented? Faction Warfare would blow up. "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
Jadd Hatchen KILL-EM-QUICK 754	Posted - 2015.01.13 20:21:00 - [47] - Quote E-Rock wrote: I feel that with the APEX suits that you should be able to move modules and rename the suit in order 1) place suits in your loadouts where you would like them to be and 2) be able to move equipment in the order you would like. I.e. scouts can change the order of R.E.s and you cloak. Thoughts? Comments? ^ THIS! Hell they don't even stick to their own conventions... The Caldari scout has the cloak in the 6 o'clock position while the Minmatar and Gallente onces have it at the 4:30 position! You get used to one and then are screwed when you have to change up suits!!!
Killer's Coys Prima Gallicus 200	Posted - 2015.01.13 21:17:00 - [48] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We may unlock the suits so that they have the exact necessary fitting space with zero skills to use, and then players can arrange within that boundary. Joke ? Or are you saying we'll be able to change ALL the modules and the weapon ?? So we are gonna have a BPO proto suit ? Or we'll have low PG/CPU (much less than a normal PRO suit) ? Please if someone can answer me, I really wanna know if this game is gonna become unbalanced ?! Please ! Like a dream
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10756	Posted - 2015.01.16 04:54:00 - [49] - Quote Killer's Coys wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We may unlock the suits so that they have the exact necessary fitting space with zero skills to use, and then players can arrange within that boundary. Joke ? Or are you saying we'll be able to change ALL the modules and the weapon ?? So we are gonna have a BPO proto suit ? Or we'll have low PG/CPU (much less than a normal PRO suit) ? Please if someone can answer me, I really wanna know if this game is gonna become unbalanced ?! Please ! I think he's referring to being able to rearrange the built-in modules while the PG/CPU become tailored specifically for those fittings. No need to have X PG and X CPU when you only need Y PG and Y CPU. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 260	Posted - 2015.01.16 06:59:00 - [50] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We may unlock the suits so that they have the exact necessary fitting space with zero skills to use, and then players can arrange within that boundary. What if everything on the suit could be individualized? Count everything on the suit as an individual blueprint? *\|LOGi GOD\|* Director of Fatal Absolution

Kain Spero Internal Error. 4230	Posted - 2015.01.16 07:11:00 - [51] - Quote Killer's Coys wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We may unlock the suits so that they have the exact necessary fitting space with zero skills to use, and then players can arrange within that boundary. Joke ? Or are you saying we'll be able to change ALL the modules and the weapon ?? So we are gonna have a BPO proto suit ? Or we'll have low PG/CPU (much less than a normal PRO suit) ? Please if someone can answer me, I really wanna know if this game is gonna become unbalanced ?! Please ! Low CPU/PG equal to whatever the fitting of the suit is with it's current fitting without skills. The only thing is they need to make a cloak module specifically for the APEX that works like a basic cloak but has the fittings as if you had proto skills in that scout suit. That way if you unplug that module you don't end up with crazy amounts of CPU and PG on the APEX scouts. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Flint Beastgood III Dead Man's Game RUST415 1301	Posted - 2015.01.16 17:02:00 - [52] - Quote Ras Orloc wrote: Flint Beastgood III wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: We may unlock the suits so that they have the exact necessary fitting space with zero skills to use, and then players can arrange within that boundary. Can't we just have the slots locked to STD+MLT gear, so we just can't use ADV and PRO gear on them? I say this because I can already see you messing up the "exact necessary fitting space". Sorry if I am sceptical, but every patch/update/buff/nerf has made me this way. ^This! By way of meta-locking slots (like shaman oga suggested). Perfect solution! Yep. Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164
E-Rock Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 36	Posted - 2015.01.17 06:19:00 - [53] - Quote if you meta locked the slots on Apex's, you could make suits that are unbelievably powerful suits The Japanese players call "hate mail", "fan mail".pÇÇµùÑµ£¼F¬PsñºS+êsñ½ -Founder of CKC and UCKC -Molon Labe


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