DUST Search - My research into the strongbox(abridged)

Soldner VonKuechle wrote:

So I have been researching droprates on strongbox gear once you open them, because im a sucker and quite literally have nothing else to spend money on atm.

I was going to do a nice table with pretty graphs and easy to read infographics.

But then tonight i got a loot so infuriating, im immediately cancelling the project and DEMANDING CCP to re-evaluate the strongbox loot tables.

22 mutha-ducking MILITIA PROFILE DAMPENERS!!

Are you frogking kidding me Frame, Ratatti and Z?

Ive opened close to 200 god-forsaken boxes to prove they are worth the AUR investment for you, but this....this is absolutely unacceptable bullsit.

Come the feck on, I didn't even know such lunacy was on the loot table until tonight.

Having such utterly terrible gear on the loot table invaldates my thesis of strongbox loot > value of key.

Ugh, it really shoots the whole thing apart, because other than MLT gear being in there, you get anywhere from 600 to 1100 in AUR gear on a drop, and Ive been holding steady at a 30% officer gear drop.

So please CCP, take that MLT poop off the table so you can possibly save some face in the box/key/aur debacle.

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jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 116	Posted - 2015.01.12 16:53:00 - [31] - Quote lol strongboxes are a joke. the past 3 weeks I have cut my dust way down on all 3 guys. just enough to finish the dailies if not aurum missions are there lol. like active instant boost BULL. combined I have over 1200+ strongboxes and if I kept up my playing as before I bet I would be around 1600-1800 boxes. the sad part is my keys I got a grand total of 12. so going by that I would have about 16-18 keys. 1 key for 100 boxes? what a joke. if I could sell the boxes or just delete them I would not mind but having that stupid orange light that is there and where the boosters are bugs me a lot. let me turn that stupid thing off. I saw a video on youtube of a guy opening a box just to have another box inside it lol how screwed up is that.
Union118 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 234	Posted - 2015.01.12 16:57:00 - [32] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: So I have been researching droprates on strongbox gear once you open them, because im a sucker and quite literally have nothing else to spend money on atm. I was going to do a nice table with pretty graphs and easy to read infographics. But then tonight i got a loot so infuriating, im immediately cancelling the project and DEMANDING CCP to re-evaluate the strongbox loot tables. 22 mutha-ducking MILITIA PROFILE DAMPENERS!! Are you frogking kidding me Frame, Ratatti and Z? Ive opened close to 200 god-forsaken boxes to prove they are worth the AUR investment for you, but this....this is absolutely unacceptable bullsit. Come the feck on, I didn't even know such lunacy was on the loot table until tonight. Having such utterly terrible gear on the loot table invaldates my thesis of strongbox loot > value of key. Ugh, it really shoots the whole thing apart, because other than MLT gear being in there, you get anywhere from 600 to 1100 in AUR gear on a drop, and Ive been holding steady at a 30% officer gear drop. So please CCP, take that MLT poop off the table so you can possibly save some face in the box/key/aur debacle. Rofl I know someone who got 3 militia scrambler pistols. So don't feel so bad. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Kodho Hidden Suppression 133	Posted - 2015.01.12 21:03:00 - [33] - Quote I will not spend money on the keys. Why would I want advanced gear? I don't want the Toyota...I want the Lexus. Quit giving out crap CCP. Long Live the Scout! Kodho
Ryanjr TUG KnightKiller's inc. 4	Posted - 2015.01.12 21:09:00 - [34] - Quote Kodho wrote: I will not spend money on the keys. Why would I want advanced gear? I don't want the Toyota...I want the Lexus. Quit giving out crap CCP. I thank the ADV. gear is good for strong boxes. I will not buy keys to, why not buy the gear with ISK your ? Like for no reason I Want to help Dust 514 new players :) room: Knight Killers Pub CEO of TUG
Kodho Hidden Suppression 133	Posted - 2015.01.12 21:11:00 - [35] - Quote I have ISK to purchase advanced or proto gear. Why would I spend AUR for those items? Give my the officer gear in the strongboxes. Maybe then I'll buy a key. Long Live the Scout! Kodho
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 2852	Posted - 2015.01.12 22:21:00 - [36] - Quote I haven't opened one yet. I would like a delete button for them, or sell for 1 ISK each. Amusing that it's like a watered-down version of regular combat loot... that you have to pay for. This punchline of a game needs a joke so bad... This is a prototype-level sig. I worked hard for it, and I'm going to use it every time. So, just get used to it.
thehellisgoingon The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 122	Posted - 2015.01.12 23:12:00 - [37] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Please send a petition with documented facts if you have experienced this. To the best of my knowledge, and according to designs, there are only std+ items in the Strongbox, so that STD gear has a qty of 20+, and so on. Furthermore, the value of "normal" gear should be close to or above the purchase price of a key in AUR. There "should" be no way to get either militia gear, nor a single dropsuit in a Strongbox, so please let us know. I have received 1x caldari medium frame. At least u got a bunch of garbage. I just got 1 piece of ... Stuff suit.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1341	Posted - 2015.01.12 23:18:00 - [38] - Quote thehellisgoingon wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Please send a petition with documented facts if you have experienced this. To the best of my knowledge, and according to designs, there are only std+ items in the Strongbox, so that STD gear has a qty of 20+, and so on. Furthermore, the value of "normal" gear should be close to or above the purchase price of a key in AUR. There "should" be no way to get either militia gear, nor a single dropsuit in a Strongbox, so please let us know. I have received 1x caldari medium frame. At least u got a bunch of garbage. I just got 1 piece of ... Stuff suit. That was a skillbook bud. :) not that it makes much difference. Why are all of you so intellectually inept?

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 14583	Posted - 2015.01.13 04:14:00 - [39] - Quote These two items have been located, and indeed put on the extermination list. Special thanks to Soldner for the email. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1345	Posted - 2015.01.13 04:24:00 - [40] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: These two items have been located, and indeed put on the extermination list. Special thanks to Soldner for the email. Thank you for the prompt response. Research will continue now. Why are all of you so intellectually inept?

DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance 793	Posted - 2015.01.13 05:52:00 - [41] - Quote No more skill books? Sweet
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 391	Posted - 2015.01.14 19:39:00 - [42] - Quote Maybe my thinking is just wrong for a game as "meticulous" as Dust is trying to be, butGÇª I often think that players (and perhaps CCP as well) take all the aspects of this game too seriously, and don't leave enough aspects for "just plain fun". We have a powerful mechanic for earning ISK, and a mechanic for grinding SP, and are finally developing a mechanic for recycle/second-hand gear pawnshop selling. It's nice that there is now an introduction to this thing called strongboxes-n-keys, but does it HAVE to be a diehard reliable component for making more money and loot? Can't it be just for entertainment and curiosity fun? I picture this "Lore" related concept, that Ponto-Corp is about to assault District 2 on Bille, and the garrison of officers and researchers on District 2 were in such a hurry to jump ship and flee, they left half their luggage and possessions behind. We conquerers pick up the luggage (strongboxes) and shove em in the back of our dropships as we return to our waiting MCCsGÇª we DON'T look forward to finding any substantial valuable war-gear in theses boxes--they're just flotsam. We get our pay from the Client, and our weapons from the dusty battlefield---we shouldn't care about what's in ladies' suitcases, beyond lampoon-entertainment while we're drinking down a Quafe after a good day of slaughtering a District. And the Lore concept kinda fits. What IS wrong with strongboxes having random personal possessions in them? What's wrong with us just having some dev-fun between matches, cracking open these boxes and finding hilarious curiosity valuables (not necessarily battle-useful gear all the time)? I'd enjoy this game immensely if (along with some of the Officer's weapons and rare BPOs), CCP made 50% of the strongboxes with these kinds of surprise gear: --A strongbox containing 10 copies of a Templar Dropsuit (that some Amarr diplomat was keeping as a memento) --A box containing 1 million ISK PLUS a single copy of a CCP Officer's Scrambler Pistol (described as belonging to CCP Bolly who hoped to use the ISK and pistol only as a last resort in a serious jam). --A box with 5 copies of a Quafe drop suit PLUS a redemption code for 5 copies of a HAV model from Chromosome) --A strongbox containing 5000 ISK PLUS a lonely Decryptor Key. (Win some, you lose someGÇª) --A strongbox containing 30 Decryptor Keys PLUS one sidearm (some greedy researcher was stealing his fellow workers' keys---that Son Of A ___!) --A strongbox containing a Skillbook for Prototype Logistics Gallente Dropsuits. --A box that contains 10 copies of FIVE different Vehicle Modules (Advanced versions only) --A box that contains 20 copies of FIVE different "Karin Midular" Tribute - Minmatar Officer weapons (described in the menu as a tribute to the Karin Midular of Eve lore). --A box filled with 50 copies of FOUR different Biotics Modules (all Advanced versions) PLUS one "Black Eagles Officer" Decryptor Key (has the black-ops ability to open 30 random strongboxes) All these things are conceivable in persons' private cargo containers, they all make sense for the game, and have enough really valuable goodies in them to make more of us willing to pay Aurum for Decryptor keys. They also give us and CCP the opportunity to get scandalous and FUN----not treat the Strongobx mechanic as one essential core resource that MUST FOLLOW a essential purpose. Can't we have some things in Dust as, just humorous FUN! Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
castba Rogue Instincts 756	Posted - 2015.02.11 04:34:00 - [43] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Please send a petition with documented facts if you have experienced this. To the best of my knowledge, and according to designs, there are only std+ items in the Strongbox, so that STD gear has a qty of 20+, and so on. Furthermore, the value of "normal" gear should be close to or above the purchase price of a key in AUR. There "should" be no way to get either militia gear, nor a single dropsuit in a Strongbox, so please let us know. Interesting. Opened all 6 of my keys today 1x Gallente medium dropsuit 19x Broadside MH-82 hmg 20x Phantasm ARN-18 cloak field 6x Defender Special Issue Mk II-C 31x Construct Viziam ScP 1x Rattati's modified gk.0 Remembers how much AUR each key costs Resolves not to bother with them in future sigh "When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti


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