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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
842
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:49:00 -
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They're still OP as fugg. Maybe not through mechanics but through sheer volume. Everyone and their grandma has a minmando with swarms, same as hmg heavies. Discuss.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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KingA2thur
27
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:54:00 -
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T.T another post with somebody complaining T.T
If you get crushed from swarms in dropships or in a tank every time then you are doing something wrong.
To get trolled press any key.
"I do not see 'any key'. I can only see a square, triangle, circle and cross."
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
842
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:57:00 -
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Hi Mr. 27 likes o/
I can see you've obviously never been on either side of the av argument, since you don't know how easily you can be killed in a vehicle by 5 invisible salvos of swarms. Please kindly leave this thread.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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pumping up
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:59:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:Hi Mr. 27 likes o/
I can see you've obviously never been in a a vehicle, since you don't know how easily you can be killed in a vehicle by 5 invisible salvos of swarms. Please kindly leave this thread.
Explain the problem to me when you get hit by so many swarms.
The people who fly drophips or drive tanks in pub properly almost never die.
I try REALLY hard killing them but they just go away if they go low and regen.
Alone it's just not seems possible to me. :(
(To be fair I have no extra ordinary sp put into swarms) |
Union118
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
193
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Posted - 2015.01.09 22:03:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:They're still OP as fugg. Maybe not through mechanics but through sheer volume. Everyone and their grandma has a minmando with swarms, same as hmg heavies. Discuss.
Dont pull out your tank if you dont want to loose it.
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
7023
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Posted - 2015.01.09 22:03:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:They're still OP as fugg. Maybe not through mechanics but through sheer volume. Everyone and their grandma has a minmando with swarms, same as hmg heavies. Discuss.
THats it!
*waits patiently to get off work to get a Minmando with Swarms*
Playing as : Calscout + Amarr Assault
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Sergeant Sazu
Nanite Systems
407
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Posted - 2015.01.09 22:08:00 -
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As a regular Swarm user since open beta:
I think they should deal much less damage per volley, but travel extremely fast and have a larger clip size. Would make them much less intimidating, and more of a light weapon that steadily brings down a vehicle's HP.
The Swarm Launcher solos vehicles too easily, AVing isn't fun anymore. And before you compare me to some of the irrational tankers: I'm down with the 1 player = 1 player thing. But considering the differences in terms of investment, I'd prefer that I chase off vehicles instead of ganking them like I do now.
[38.5m SP - Next skill: Active Scanner Operation 5]
Veteran Assault - Expert Logibro - Aspiring Minja - Scrub Sentinel
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
7023
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Posted - 2015.01.09 22:10:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:As a regular Swarm user since open beta:
I think they should deal much less damage per volley, but travel extremely fast and have a larger clip size. Would make them much less intimidating, and more of a light weapon that steadily brings down a vehicle's HP.
The Swarm Launcher solos vehicles too easily, AVing isn't fun anymore. And before you compare me to some of the irrational tankers: I'm down with the 1 player = 1 player thing. But considering the differences in terms of investment, I'd prefer that I chase off vehicles instead of ganking them like I do now.
Being a swarmer since open beta doesnt mean you are correct.
I think its BS and Swarms are ok, if not Underpowered...
:3
Playing as : Calscout + Amarr Assault
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Sergeant Sazu
Nanite Systems
408
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Posted - 2015.01.09 22:18:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Being a swarmer since open beta doesnt mean you are correct.
I think its BS and Swarms are ok, if not Underpowered...
:3
I'm clarifying that I have experience with the situation, not saying it makes me right. My post was just an opinion.
What makes you say it's underpowered?
[38.5m SP - Next skill: Active Scanner Operation 5]
Veteran Assault - Expert Logibro - Aspiring Minja - Scrub Sentinel
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Mikel Arias
Challengers 506
53
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Posted - 2015.01.09 22:48:00 -
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If your vehicle gets destroyed against one AV player with swarms, forge gun or plasma cannon, against just ONE, then you probably did something wrong. But, if there are three or more AV players attacking you, well... isn it logical that you should be in trouble? If any weapon cant kill or destroy while a lot of people is using it to attack something, then the weapon is broken or what they are attacking is broken. |
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CrotchGrab 360
Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase
1887
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Posted - 2015.01.09 22:51:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:They're still OP as fugg. Maybe not through mechanics but through sheer volume. Everyone and their grandma has a minmando with swarms, same as hmg heavies. Discuss.
My theory is that it's not swarms, it's because of what CCP did with tanks,
they wanted them viable again so they buffed them big time as we all know they were cheap as chips,
everyone spammed,
people were reluctant to spec into AV and thought "why should I spend millions of SP?"
then they realised they had to, tanks got toned down but now EVERYONE has AV which makes them appear OP.
I don't think it's the swarms themselves, It's the quantity, because everybody was forced to spec into AV
It's CCP's fault and you reap what you sow.
Don't Be A Scrub, Gimme A Sub!
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taxi bastard
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
291
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Posted - 2015.01.09 23:05:00 -
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been away from the game for a bit and came back recently, since i have returned i have started to play alot of doms.
domination is a big problem for solo AV against tanks.....just too little open space so its too easy for the tank to get cover or the short sprint back to the red line. might have to spec into proxies to get that bit extra help.
did they buff tank? ........as i said been away for a bit |
Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
849
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Posted - 2015.01.10 20:10:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:They're still OP as fugg. Maybe not through mechanics but through sheer volume. Everyone and their grandma has a minmando with swarms, same as hmg heavies. Discuss. My theory is that it's not swarms, it's because of what CCP did with tanks, they wanted them viable again so they buffed them big time as we all know they were cheap as chips, everyone spammed, people were reluctant to spec into AV and thought "why should I spend millions of SP?" then they realised they had to, tanks got toned down but now EVERYONE has AV which makes them appear OP. I don't think it's the swarms themselves, It's the quantity, because everybody was forced to spec into AV It's CCP's fault and you reap what you sow.
Exactly. Also they're fuckin invisible.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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axis alpha
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
457
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Posted - 2015.01.10 23:03:00 -
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Stop crying because ur invincible kdr machine is..... Well no longer invincible.
I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
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Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1194
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Posted - 2015.01.10 23:27:00 -
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All the pilots that complain are either terrible or average. Good pilots are really tough to take down, even with my Min Commando and Prof 5 Swarms. The expert pilots are still pretty much untouchable, unless they get sloppy or cocky. Properly shield tanked vehicles? Forget about it.
Swarms were a joke for sooooo long. It's about time they got to drink gallons of pilot tears, imho.
Half-Assed Forum Warrior / Half-Decent Commando / Damn Good Logi / Matari Loyalty 7
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
7113
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Posted - 2015.01.10 23:30:00 -
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So what you are complaining about is that a team or squad will coordinate and all pull out Swarm Launchers?
Please tell me this is a joke or troll.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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Assault Swarm Launcher
313
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Posted - 2015.01.10 23:30:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:Swarms were a joke for sooooo long. It's about time they got to drink gallons of pilot tears, imho.
These gallons taste pretty well.
The snack that smiles back, Pilots!
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
275
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Posted - 2015.01.10 23:35:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:They're still OP as fugg. Maybe not through mechanics but through sheer volume. Everyone and their grandma has a minmando with swarms, same as hmg heavies. Discuss.
So your saying a weopon is OP because of sheer volume? So if a squad has 2 forge gunners, are forge guns OP? How about a squad of Mass Driver enthusiasts? Is that OP? GTFO
Conduct on the battlefield is the ultimate measure of a man
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
853
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Posted - 2015.01.11 22:25:00 -
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axis alpha wrote:Stop crying because ur invincible kdr machine is..... Well no longer invincible.
They never were invincible, and that's not even the case, you can manage a tank for a whole match if you're forced into redline camping, but a dropship will not survive the match at all. And no, your team isn't coordinating to take a dropship down, bringing out a commando doesn't take any coordination since you don't have to worry about being killed by infantry and you can just whip out your swarms anytime. I have maxed swarms and a maxed minmando as well as a maxed shield vehicle alt, so I know what it's like on both sides, you can't fool me. Imagine if every match you were in was being stomped by Nyain San, but on top of that, you couldn't even see them. That's what piloting a vehicle is like now.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
853
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Posted - 2015.01.11 22:26:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:They're still OP as fugg. Maybe not through mechanics but through sheer volume. Everyone and their grandma has a minmando with swarms, same as hmg heavies. Discuss. So your saying a weopon is OP because of sheer volume? So if a squad has 2 forge gunners, are forge guns OP? How about a squad of Mass Driver enthusiasts? Is that OP? GTFO
You have to aim forge guns and mass drivers.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
853
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Posted - 2015.01.11 22:27:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:All the pilots that complain are either terrible or average. Good pilots are really tough to take down, even with my Min Commando and Prof 5 Swarms. The expert pilots are still pretty much untouchable, unless they get sloppy or cocky. Properly shield tanked vehicles? Forget about it.
Swarms were a joke for sooooo long. It's about time they got to drink gallons of pilot tears, imho.
AV infantry are still looking at it wrong. "Well, I have maxed minmando and swarms, and I can't solo them, so swarms must be fine."
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
722
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Posted - 2015.01.11 22:47:00 -
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It is getting pretty annoying. The moment I call in an ADS to clear out some rooftop campers or a Tank I already have 6 swarmers and 3 Forge Gunners aiming at my vehicle before it even reaches the ground (exageration) but you pilots and tankers get what I mean.
Changes to Damage mods!
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
16498
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Posted - 2015.01.11 22:50:00 -
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*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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Niuvo
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1439
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Posted - 2015.01.11 23:29:00 -
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I don't want to skill the Swarm Launcher. I don't even use MLT. If I'm bored I might try it. |
Yokal Bob
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
607
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Posted - 2015.01.12 08:26:00 -
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everyone has a gun
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OP as fug *.*
If its not anime, its not real
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Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1202
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Posted - 2015.01.14 19:24:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:All the pilots that complain are either terrible or average. Good pilots are really tough to take down, even with my Min Commando and Prof 5 Swarms. The expert pilots are still pretty much untouchable, unless they get sloppy or cocky. Properly shield tanked vehicles? Forget about it.
Swarms were a joke for sooooo long. It's about time they got to drink gallons of pilot tears, imho. AV infantry are still looking at it wrong. "Well, I have maxed minmando and swarms, and I can't solo them, so swarms must be fine."
No, we're not. If the best possible swarmer, with all maxed skills, still requires 1 or 2 more fellow swarmers to take out a "basic" vehicle, then that's called "balance". Swarms will instantly be UP again once higher tiered HAV's are brought back. QQ more.
Half-Assed Forum Warrior / Half-Decent Commando / Damn Good Logi / Matari Loyalty 7
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Stupid Blueberry
Pure Evil.
Capital Punishment.
904
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Posted - 2015.01.14 19:40:00 -
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I don't know what you're doing wrong. The only vehicles I can't solo are shield HAVs and a smart python pilot.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1202
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Posted - 2015.01.14 19:45:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:I don't know what you're doing wrong. The only vehicles I can't solo are shield HAVs and a smart python pilot.
In pubs or PC? I usually only chase away pilots in PC. In pubs it's usually a field day, with the occasional good pilot.
Now, if Rattati actually implements this Warbarge subsystem, and gives everyone a free complex damage mod, then you may have an argument. Maxed Min Commandos, with 3 complex damage mods? Overkill to say the least...
Half-Assed Forum Warrior / Half-Decent Commando / Damn Good Logi / Matari Loyalty 7
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Stupid Blueberry
Pure Evil.
Capital Punishment.
905
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Posted - 2015.01.14 21:59:00 -
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One unlucky guy in a PC yesterday, RND's PC, actually. He decided it wold be a good idea to call in a Madrugar. Madrugar go boom.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1206
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Posted - 2015.01.14 22:54:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:One unlucky guy in a PC yesterday, RND's PC, actually. He decided it wold be a good idea to call in a Madrugar. Madrugar go boom.
Against the L337 tankers from Pendejitos? I would certainly hope so. 
Half-Assed Forum Warrior / Half-Decent Commando / Damn Good Logi / Matari Loyalty 7
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