Whenever you **** and moan about swarms, a blueberry specs into them.

If you wanted to suppress their use you would publically say "meh, they're occasionally worrying."

King Checkmates reaction exemplifies it.

In short...

Ur doin it rong.

T.T another post with somebody complaining T.T
If you get crushed from swarms in dropships or in a tank every time then you are doing something wrong.

As a regular Swarm user since open beta:

I think they should deal much less damage per volley, but travel extremely fast and have a larger clip size. Would make them much less intimidating, and more of a light weapon that steadily brings down a vehicle's HP.

The Swarm Launcher solos vehicles too easily, AVing isn't fun anymore. And before you compare me to some of the irrational tankers: I'm down with the 1 player = 1 player thing. But considering the differences in terms of investment, I'd prefer that I chase off vehicles instead of ganking them like I do now.

anyone keen to inform me what wyrkomi swarms do with 2 damage mods?

A triple repped Maddie will never die to a single Swarmer, no matter what tier.

Vid or it didn't happen.

No, it is that the AV is OP, or your tank just sat there. I was destroyed in 12 seconds by 1, ONE ******* SWARMER SITTING ON A ROOFTOP. I didn't do anything wrong, my triple-repped madrugar didn't either

If your vehicle gets destroyed against one AV player with swarms, forge gun or plasma cannon, against just ONE, then you probably did something wrong. But, if there are three or more AV players attacking you, well... isn it logical that you should be in trouble? If any weapon cant kill or destroy while a lot of people is using it to attack something, then the weapon is broken or what they are attacking is broken.

The swarmers themselves not rendering until you're 5 feet from them is an issue also.

The problem with swarms are the no render ones.

That plus a min commando w/ a swarm launcher means death if you been hit twice. The third ghost is coming to finish the job.

Therefore, no render + damage boost = op for 1000+ invisible damage is completely unacceptable.

Nothing against the swarmers... It's the swarm itself.
i believe this is one of the main reasons why we dropships do this "lolAB" thing people claim we do. it's because of the impending death that comes along with ghost swarms. Co-evolution in its finest per se.

They never were invincible, and that's not even the case, you can manage a tank for a whole match if you're forced into redline camping, but a dropship will not survive the match at all. And no, your team isn't coordinating to take a dropship down, bringing out a commando doesn't take any coordination since you don't have to worry about being killed by infantry and you can just whip out your swarms anytime. I have maxed swarms and a maxed minmando as well as a maxed shield vehicle alt, so I know what it's like on both sides, you can't fool me. Imagine if every match you were in was being stomped by Nyain San, but on top of that, you couldn't even see them. That's what piloting a vehicle is like now.

Against the L337 tankers from Pendejitos? I would certainly hope so.

One unlucky guy in a PC yesterday, RND's PC, actually. He decided it wold be a good idea to call in a Madrugar. Madrugar go boom.

I don't know what you're doing wrong. The only vehicles I can't solo are shield HAVs and a smart python pilot.

AV infantry are still looking at it wrong. "Well, I have maxed minmando and swarms, and I can't solo them, so swarms must be fine."

All the pilots that complain are either terrible or average. Good pilots are really tough to take down, even with my Min Commando and Prof 5 Swarms. The expert pilots are still pretty much untouchable, unless they get sloppy or cocky. Properly shield tanked vehicles? Forget about it.

Swarms were a joke for sooooo long. It's about time they got to drink gallons of pilot tears, imho.

So your saying a weopon is OP because of sheer volume? So if a squad has 2 forge gunners, are forge guns OP? How about a squad of Mass Driver enthusiasts? Is that OP? GTFO

Stop crying because ur invincible kdr machine is..... Well no longer invincible.

They're still OP as fugg. Maybe not through mechanics but through sheer volume. Everyone and their grandma has a minmando with swarms, same as hmg heavies. Discuss.

Swarms were a joke for sooooo long. It's about time they got to drink gallons of pilot tears, imho.

My theory is that it's not swarms, it's because of what CCP did with tanks,

they wanted them viable again so they buffed them big time as we all know they were cheap as chips,
everyone spammed,

people were reluctant to spec into AV and thought "why should I spend millions of SP?"
then they realised they had to, tanks got toned down but now EVERYONE has AV which makes them appear OP.

I don't think it's the swarms themselves, It's the quantity, because everybody was forced to spec into AV

It's CCP's fault and you reap what you sow.

They're still OP as fugg. Maybe not through mechanics but through sheer volume. Everyone and their grandma has a minmando with swarms, same as hmg heavies. Discuss.

Being a swarmer since open beta doesnt mean you are correct.

I think its BS and Swarms are ok, if not Underpowered...

:3

As a regular Swarm user since open beta:

I think they should deal much less damage per volley, but travel extremely fast and have a larger clip size. Would make them much less intimidating, and more of a light weapon that steadily brings down a vehicle's HP.

The Swarm Launcher solos vehicles too easily, AVing isn't fun anymore. And before you compare me to some of the irrational tankers: I'm down with the 1 player = 1 player thing. But considering the differences in terms of investment, I'd prefer that I chase off vehicles instead of ganking them like I do now.

They're still OP as fugg. Maybe not through mechanics but through sheer volume. Everyone and their grandma has a minmando with swarms, same as hmg heavies. Discuss.

They're still OP as fugg. Maybe not through mechanics but through sheer volume. Everyone and their grandma has a minmando with swarms, same as hmg heavies. Discuss.

Hi Mr. 27 likes o/

I can see you've obviously never been in a a vehicle, since you don't know how easily you can be killed in a vehicle by 5 invisible salvos of swarms. Please kindly leave this thread.