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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3461	Posted - 2015.01.09 21:19:00 - [31] - Quote If i ever find these "Im so good at this game" players from the forums in game, I will stomp all your asses into the ground with my minmitar heavy frame. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
ACT1ON BASTARD Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 416	Posted - 2015.01.09 22:59:00 - [32] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: If i ever find these "Im so good at this game" players from the forums in game, I will stomp all your asses into the ground with my minmitar heavy frame. So tell me how bad the scout Nerf hit you. Proud owner of 4 proto commandos and 3 proto sentinels. All except amarr sent, its a beginner heavy tbh.:p
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 7075	Posted - 2015.01.09 23:11:00 - [33] - Quote ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: If i ever find these "Im so good at this game" players from the forums in game, I will stomp all your asses into the ground with my minmitar heavy frame. So tell me how bad the scout Nerf hit you. From other posts I have read, he uses Assault suits much more often. @ Those who think that heavies are "fine," remember Rattati has objective data that he can use to identify over performing items, weapons, suits, modules etc. If he deems them over performing, then perhaps it is best to find a constructive means of addressing WHY that might be and SOLUTIONS to the problem. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 1617	Posted - 2015.01.09 23:15:00 - [34] - Quote Bethhy wrote: snip Thanks for the overview, but I fear we've detoured. To get back to the point: 1. Is it possible for something be "too good" at its intended role? 2. Is it possible to tune that something such that it is no longer "too good"? 3. Is it appropriate to tune that something such that it is no longer "too good"? Hint: Absolutely
ACT1ON BASTARD Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 416	Posted - 2015.01.09 23:26:00 - [35] - Quote This is why WoW sucks, all the good sht getting nerfed every update. I had a friend that played this game 6-9 months and all he had were tanks. When the volley of tank nerfs came in he couldn't go isk positive anymore and quit. It's a good way to alienate new players when all they have Is the 1 role. Proud owner of 4 proto commandos and 3 proto sentinels. All except amarr sent, its a beginner heavy tbh.:p
castba Rogue Instincts 693	Posted - 2015.01.09 23:28:00 - [36] - Quote Vitantur Nothus wrote: Bethhy wrote: Nerfing a class because they are too good at their role on the battlefield is about as stupid as this forum gets. This sounds like something Spkr might say. Are there not degrees of good? Picture a gauge which begins with barely good enough and ends with way too good. Might there be a happy medium along that continuum? Absolutely. The thing is that for every "barely good enough" attribute, each suit must have a "way too good" that works as an opposite. Example: Heavy HP (way too good) - Heavy movement speed and size (barely good enough) If everything was in the happy medium, we would only have assault suits. "When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 7076	Posted - 2015.01.09 23:29:00 - [37] - Quote ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: This is why WoW sucks, all the good sht getting nerfed every update. I had a friend that played this game 6-9 months and all he had were tanks. When the volley of tank nerfs came in he couldn't go isk positive anymore and quit. It's a good way to alienate new players when all they have Is the 1 role. And how many people didn't stay because of how OP tanks were in the weeks following 1.7? Imbalance turns away more people than making changes for the sake of balance. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 1617	Posted - 2015.01.09 23:36:00 - [38] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: This is why WoW sucks, all the good sht getting nerfed every update. I had a friend that played this game 6-9 months and all he had were tanks. When the volley of tank nerfs came in he couldn't go isk positive anymore and quit. It's a good way to alienate new players when all they have Is the 1 role. And how many people didn't stay because of how OP tanks were in the weeks following 1.7? Imbalance turns away more people than making changes for the sake of balance. This point can't be emphasized enough. Players demand a fair shake. If Uprising had been balanced at release, our playerbase would no doubt be larger and in-game assets and content would be further developed. Rattati has managed to right a sinking ship with balance passes; he certainly shouldn't stop now.
Pocket Rocket Girl Psygod9 227	Posted - 2015.01.09 23:46:00 - [39] - Quote ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: So where did the idea of nerfing heavies come from? They went unchanged for half a year, except for the recent heat buildup Nerf, but i guess wasn't enough? Its like the saying,"you give them an inch theyll take the mile." So my question is how far do you want to take it, on the level of the ads Nerf; unusable except for top players, or on the level of the recent scr Nerf? I say no Nerf should be given, because lets be honest, get some skill. I take heavies all day in my logi, scout, commando, any suit. It's called tactics, different suits come with different tactics. If I'm in a scout I'm going to flank, in an assault god mode strafe him, in a logi get cover and let my heavy take him. You mean my COD style of praying and spraying and running at them head on isnt how youre supposed to take HVY's out? well thats not balanced Sir Dukey- If one person is smart he should be able to keep vehicle at bay but not destroy it unless its a stupid driver
ACT1ON BASTARD Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 417	Posted - 2015.01.10 00:00:00 - [40] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: This is why WoW sucks, all the good sht getting nerfed every update. I had a friend that played this game 6-9 months and all he had were tanks. When the volley of tank nerfs came in he couldn't go isk positive anymore and quit. It's a good way to alienate new players when all they have Is the 1 role. And how many people didn't stay because of how OP tanks were in the weeks following 1.7? Imbalance turns away more people than making changes for the sake of balance. That was the fotm group taking advantage of militia tanks which should of never existed. If you want to tank you should have skills in tanking. Proud owner of 4 proto commandos and 3 proto sentinels. All except amarr sent, its a beginner heavy tbh.:p

One Eyed King Land of the BIind 7089	Posted - 2015.01.10 00:13:00 - [41] - Quote ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: One Eyed King wrote: ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: This is why WoW sucks, all the good sht getting nerfed every update. I had a friend that played this game 6-9 months and all he had were tanks. When the volley of tank nerfs came in he couldn't go isk positive anymore and quit. It's a good way to alienate new players when all they have Is the 1 role. And how many people didn't stay because of how OP tanks were in the weeks following 1.7? Imbalance turns away more people than making changes for the sake of balance. That was the fotm group taking advantage of militia tanks which should of never existed. If you want to tank you should have skills in tanking. They took advantage of scouts as well, and that needed addressing. They also take advantage of heavies. This also needs addressing. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
ACT1ON BASTARD Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 418	Posted - 2015.01.10 07:15:00 - [42] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: One Eyed King wrote: ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: This is why WoW sucks, all the good sht getting nerfed every update. I had a friend that played this game 6-9 months and all he had were tanks. When the volley of tank nerfs came in he couldn't go isk positive anymore and quit. It's a good way to alienate new players when all they have Is the 1 role. And how many people didn't stay because of how OP tanks were in the weeks following 1.7? Imbalance turns away more people than making changes for the sake of balance. That was the fotm group taking advantage of militia tanks which should of never existed. If you want to tank you should have skills in tanking. They took advantage of scouts as well, and that needed addressing. They also take advantage of heavies. This also needs addressing. Ok and, the fotm chasers will outsmart ccp at every update. Proud owner of 4 proto commandos and 3 proto sentinels. All except amarr sent, its a beginner heavy tbh.:p
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 687	Posted - 2015.01.10 11:48:00 - [43] - Quote ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: One Eyed King wrote: ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: One Eyed King wrote: ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: This is why WoW sucks, all the good sht getting nerfed every update. I had a friend that played this game 6-9 months and all he had were tanks. When the volley of tank nerfs came in he couldn't go isk positive anymore and quit. It's a good way to alienate new players when all they have Is the 1 role. And how many people didn't stay because of how OP tanks were in the weeks following 1.7? Imbalance turns away more people than making changes for the sake of balance. That was the fotm group taking advantage of militia tanks which should of never existed. If you want to tank you should have skills in tanking. They took advantage of scouts as well, and that needed addressing. They also take advantage of heavies. This also needs addressing. Ok and, the fotm chasers will outsmart ccp at every update. That's why we will never stop balancing until this game is as perfect as it can be. Even if that is unattainable its better than sitting around and dealing with annoying players doing the same things over and over again because abusing the game makes you"Gud." Even if it is tedious and even if players leave because of it we should never stop because this game has the potential to be an amazing game. The players still care about making this game fun and balanced, they won't stop searching for broken mechanics. Rather than just brushing off balancing suggestion as qq players should stop and think. "Hmm maybe the way I play this game ruins the fun for all the other players maybe I should helpmake it balanced so that's can have fun and not just sit here clicking a button and destroying everything without even thinking about it." If you can't do that maybe you should just move on to some other game where they say"oh don't worry they'll fix stuff in the next game," because you won't find that attitude in this game. GimmeDatSuhWeet isk We need a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 662	Posted - 2015.01.10 13:36:00 - [44] - Quote Rattati have simple job here. Look at HMG range/DPS. Or sentiniel's resistances. Loyal to State. Led by Tibus Heth. Not scared of death [like Admiral Yakiya Tobil-Toba]. Honour and Mission over money


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