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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD RUST415
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Posted - 2015.01.09 08:15:00 -
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In the words of jesus Chrysler "you're doing it wrong". Heavies go down relatively easy. Why all the "nerf heavies" threads? Try being one for a week, and you will see its not all that awesome.
You're slow, or slower than most. Overheat is ridiculous, and cool down is 10 god d*mn seconds which is long enough to get shot gunned 40 times. Everyone is in your way! Guys trying to use you as a mobile meat shield. Friendlies blocking your shots as they ridiculously strafe in front of your hmg between you and enemy heavies. (Which I just find utterly ridiculous) The friendlies don't bring ammo, links, scanners, needles, etc. All the assaults think it's the logis job only. They're only suppose to shoot.
Being a heavy isn't what it used to be. Yes there are some perks, but it's serious work now. The HMG already overheat in an instant, especially in PC. What do you want us slow mover to lose? Damage? If you do that the hmg will be pointless on a sentinel, and you'll see heavies with RR's again?! That's why we don't use the assault version. It's too weak! That's why I got almost every suit version. Because you zealots are ridiculous!
Is there anything you don't want nerfed? Instead of using the word nerfed, say tweak or balance. You noobs don't know how dangerous the word "nerf" can be in the hands of CCP! They will obliterate your weapons! I was an AR user long before you bums found the GB-9! I ran it when it wasn't cool to do. I remember the Flay lock funeral. The death of the laser rifle. Most of your currently favorite weapons have been reincarnated recently.
Now the ScR damage against armor definitely needs a tweak if we're talking about balancing weapons, but that's a whole different thread.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2015.01.09 08:18:00 -
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Jesus Chrysler still plays?
Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah
*Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD RUST415
660
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Posted - 2015.01.09 08:22:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Jesus Chrysler still plays?
And he's a straight gangsta in my humble opinion lol!
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
258
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Posted - 2015.01.09 08:22:00 -
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Well said +1, yeah if we make them any slower it could be the nail in the coffin for the heavy. The games just too fast paced for that to happen.
Conduct on the battlefield is the ultimate measure of a man
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
392
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Posted - 2015.01.09 08:24:00 -
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Might I also add that being a solo armor tanking heavy is one of the hardest things to do as NOBODY has time to rep or help our fatasses out...
Also we are very intimidating, running towards enemies (or speed waddling as I put it) can scare most newbies. And most these guys screaming 'NERF' don't understand or refuse to understand that if they outdistance our effective range we are sitting ducks. Mind you I am now using a bolt pistol to compensate for my lack of range with the HMG...
Drink until you can't drink no more. Then grab another bottle and drink some more! - Demetrious 'Jonny' Buelle.
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD RUST415
660
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Posted - 2015.01.09 08:29:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:Might I also add that being a solo armor tanking heavy is one of the hardest things to do as NOBODY has time to rep or help our fatasses out...
Also we are very intimidating, running towards enemies (or speed waddling as I put it) can scare most newbies. And most these guys screaming 'NERF' don't understand or refuse to understand that if they outdistance our effective range we are sitting ducks. Mind you I am now using a bolt pistol to compensate for my lack of range with the HMG...
Magsec with complex sidearm damage mod for long range, but that's all preference. Most use the bolt pistol for its OP two hit kill capabilities.
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Union118
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
188
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Posted - 2015.01.09 08:29:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:In the words of jesus Chrysler "you're doing it wrong". Heavies go down relatively easy. Why all the "nerf heavies" threads? Try being one for a week, and you will see its not all that awesome.
You're slow, or slower than most. Overheat is ridiculous, and cool down is 10 god d*mn seconds which is long enough to get shot gunned 40 times. Everyone is in your way! Guys trying to use you as a mobile meat shield. Friendlies blocking your shots as they ridiculously strafe in front of your hmg between you and enemy heavies. (Which I just find utterly ridiculous) The friendlies don't bring ammo, links, scanners, needles, etc. All the assaults think it's the logis job only. They're only suppose to shoot.
Being a heavy isn't what it used to be. Yes there are some perks, but it's serious work now. The HMG already overheat in an instant, especially in PC. What do you want us slow mover to lose? Damage? If you do that the hmg will be pointless on a sentinel, and you'll see heavies with RR's again?! That's why we don't use the assault version. It's too weak! That's why I got almost every suit version. Because you zealots are ridiculous!
Is there anything you don't want nerfed? Instead of using the word nerfed, say tweak or balance. You noobs don't know how dangerous the word "nerf" can be in the hands of CCP! They will obliterate your weapons! I was an AR user long before you bums found the GB-9! I ran it when it wasn't cool to do. I remember the Flay lock funeral. The death of the laser rifle. Most of your currently favorite weapons have been reincarnated recently.
Now the ScR damage against armor definitely needs a tweak if we're talking about balancing weapons, but that's a whole different thread. I would agree because at cqc a heavy cant mow whats in front of them. Start a new character and play the mock ll heavy special. It does not last long against 2v1 and it should considering it is using a weapon that can cut through a tree bigger than the person itself in just seconds.
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
1742
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Posted - 2015.01.09 08:30:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:In the words of jesus Chrysler "you're doing it wrong". Heavies go down relatively easy. Why all the "nerf heavies" threads? Try being one for a week, and you will see its not all that awesome.
You're slow, or slower than most. Overheat is ridiculous, and cool down is 10 god d*mn seconds which is long enough to get shot gunned 40 times. Everyone is in your way! Guys trying to use you as a mobile meat shield. Friendlies blocking your shots as they ridiculously strafe in front of your hmg between you and enemy heavies. (Which I just find utterly ridiculous) The friendlies don't bring ammo, links, scanners, needles, etc. All the assaults think it's the logis job only. They're only suppose to shoot.
Being a heavy isn't what it used to be. Yes there are some perks, but it's serious work now. The HMG already overheats in an instant, especially in PC. What do you want us slow movers to lose? Damage? If you do that the hmg will be pointless on a sentinel, and you'll see heavies with RR's again?! That's why we don't use the assault version. It's too weak! That's why I got almost every suit version. Because you zealots are ridiculous!
Is there anything you don't want nerfed? Instead of using the word nerfed, say tweak or balance. You noobs don't know how dangerous the word "nerf" can be in the hands of CCP! They will obliterate your weapons! I was an AR user long before you bums found the GB-9! I ran it when it wasn't cool to do. I remember the Flay lock funeral. The death of the laser rifle. Most of your currently favorite weapons have been reincarnated recently.
Now the ScR damage against armor definitely needs a tweak if we're talking about balancing weapons, but that's a whole different thread.
****** scouts that are mad that they can not glitch hit detection as well as others are going to continue to run head on at heavies and cry that they die. Just enjoy it being playable before the forum trolls get it nerfed into oblivion.
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD RUST415
660
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Posted - 2015.01.09 08:34:00 -
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Two min assault M-1's can obliterate a heavy at close range! Caldari scouts are a f*cking nightmare with that sh*tty hit detection, and a shotgun.
These guys haven't been a heavy, or they would know that running assault or scout is easier now. Also, being a logi makes tons more isk than being a heavy.
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
392
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Posted - 2015.01.09 08:34:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Might I also add that being a solo armor tanking heavy is one of the hardest things to do as NOBODY has time to rep or help our fatasses out...
Also we are very intimidating, running towards enemies (or speed waddling as I put it) can scare most newbies. And most these guys screaming 'NERF' don't understand or refuse to understand that if they outdistance our effective range we are sitting ducks. Mind you I am now using a bolt pistol to compensate for my lack of range with the HMG... Magsec with complex sidearm damage mod for long range, but that's all preference. Most use the bolt pistol for its OP two hit kill capabilities.
I don't really care about OP stopping power, I just find it hilarious when I see a fat man with a little gun.
Never tried the Magsec, I got a couple mil SP doing nothing, think I might give it a go.
Drink until you can't drink no more. Then grab another bottle and drink some more! - Demetrious 'Jonny' Buelle.
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD RUST415
660
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Posted - 2015.01.09 08:39:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Might I also add that being a solo armor tanking heavy is one of the hardest things to do as NOBODY has time to rep or help our fatasses out...
Also we are very intimidating, running towards enemies (or speed waddling as I put it) can scare most newbies. And most these guys screaming 'NERF' don't understand or refuse to understand that if they outdistance our effective range we are sitting ducks. Mind you I am now using a bolt pistol to compensate for my lack of range with the HMG... Magsec with complex sidearm damage mod for long range, but that's all preference. Most use the bolt pistol for its OP two hit kill capabilities. I don't really care about OP stopping power, I just find it hilarious when I see a fat man with a little gun. Never tried the Magsec, I got a couple mil SP doing nothing, think I might give it a go.
It's got roughly the damage of the basic AR, clip size is 58, it's damage is hybrid (shield and armor), and it's range is far enough to keep guys off you while you move to cover. 350 ammo capacity, and the charge up is only .30
Also use the ion pistol and sub in cqc.
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
392
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Posted - 2015.01.09 08:42:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Might I also add that being a solo armor tanking heavy is one of the hardest things to do as NOBODY has time to rep or help our fatasses out...
Also we are very intimidating, running towards enemies (or speed waddling as I put it) can scare most newbies. And most these guys screaming 'NERF' don't understand or refuse to understand that if they outdistance our effective range we are sitting ducks. Mind you I am now using a bolt pistol to compensate for my lack of range with the HMG... Magsec with complex sidearm damage mod for long range, but that's all preference. Most use the bolt pistol for its OP two hit kill capabilities. I don't really care about OP stopping power, I just find it hilarious when I see a fat man with a little gun. Never tried the Magsec, I got a couple mil SP doing nothing, think I might give it a go. It's got roughly the damage of the basic AR, clip size is 58, it's damage is hybrid (shield and armor), and it's range is far enough to keep guys off you while you move to cover. 350 ammo capacity, and the charge up is only .30 Also use the ion pistol and sub in cqc.
Hybrid - Rail*
As it is rail tech, it is receives a buff to armor damage and a debuff against shield s.
(Still in my teaching mode, sorry)
Drink until you can't drink no more. Then grab another bottle and drink some more! - Demetrious 'Jonny' Buelle.
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD RUST415
661
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Posted - 2015.01.09 08:52:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Might I also add that being a solo armor tanking heavy is one of the hardest things to do as NOBODY has time to rep or help our fatasses out...
Also we are very intimidating, running towards enemies (or speed waddling as I put it) can scare most newbies. And most these guys screaming 'NERF' don't understand or refuse to understand that if they outdistance our effective range we are sitting ducks. Mind you I am now using a bolt pistol to compensate for my lack of range with the HMG... Magsec with complex sidearm damage mod for long range, but that's all preference. Most use the bolt pistol for its OP two hit kill capabilities. I don't really care about OP stopping power, I just find it hilarious when I see a fat man with a little gun. Never tried the Magsec, I got a couple mil SP doing nothing, think I might give it a go. It's got roughly the damage of the basic AR, clip size is 58, it's damage is hybrid (shield and armor), and it's range is far enough to keep guys off you while you move to cover. 350 ammo capacity, and the charge up is only .30 Also use the ion pistol and sub in cqc. Hybrid - Rail* As it is rail tech, it is receives a buff to armor damage and a debuff against shield s. (Still in my teaching mode, sorry)
The AR is labeled hybrid isn't it? It's a shield weapon isn't it? By that logic I simply assumed all hybrid weapons faired well against both with stronger tendencies to one or the other. Don't wanna give out incorrect info so someone please clarify.
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
393
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Posted - 2015.01.09 09:12:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote: The AR is labeled hybrid isn't it? It's a shield weapon isn't it? By that logic I simply assumed all hybrid weapons faired well against both with stronger tendencies to one or the other. Don't wanna give out incorrect info so someone please clarify.
There are two types of Hybrid, Plasma (AR, Ion Pistol, Plasma Cannon, Shotgun) and Rail (Magsec, Bolt Pistol, Forge Gun, RR) (probally missed a few weapons).
The term hybrid has to deal with the type of ammunition used when firing. Part projectile and part energy. Rail (Caldari weapons) primarily deal armor damage and Plasma (Gallente weapons) primarily deal shield.
Edit: Logically you are correct, just there is the buff and debuff aspect that all weapons in New Eden have.
Drink until you can't drink no more. Then grab another bottle and drink some more! - Demetrious 'Jonny' Buelle.
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Powerh8er
The Rainbow Effect
623
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Posted - 2015.01.09 09:21:00 -
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The dust HMG got 5 barrels right? Imagine if it was a one barreled machine gun, it would overheat at 50 bullets fired...
Heavies cant get anything else than a free handicap parking in this circlejerk 1337 community.
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
3636
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Posted - 2015.01.09 11:16:00 -
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Try to shoot a heavy with a MD then....
Situational awareness also known as passive scan.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1738
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Posted - 2015.01.09 11:25:00 -
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my secret anti heavy buster:
min assault mk0
3 complex shield extenders 1 complex shield recharger 2 complex shield regulators 2 complex kin cats proto shotgun proto smg proto flux compact hive
use keyboard and mouse.
the key is to abuse the sprint speed to move around a heavy, for that you need to be able to do quick precise turns between sprints and shoot him in the face then keep on sprinting.
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taxi bastard
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
288
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Posted - 2015.01.09 11:27:00 -
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i like the heavy where it is......i only get mine out once in a while ( but i have ammar sentinel to 5 and HMG proficiency to 4) and even on my suicide fit ( dren sentinel, 3 blueprint militia plates, HMG)i take a few down with me before i go.
mostly i face a heavy at range and its not hard to kill them, get too close and well its not good in a medium suit but then its my bad. |
Jack Boost
Zarena Family
585
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Posted - 2015.01.09 11:33:00 -
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How easy is kill solo HMG-heavy now.. you can see at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzGqTqIFce0 Even in optimal best DPS on paper weapon with best EHP suit ... you are... weak.
For most upgrades for heavy (armor plates buff)... heavys dont get profit on it, because of lack of slots and CPU/PG. Commandos on paper was great... but they are ..heavys too with less EHP.
Only nerf to heavys that I want is hit box 'nerf' to size of assault/scout and more 'nerf' in slot numbers to +2 ;) Then we can talk...
Not much time left...
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1738
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Posted - 2015.01.09 11:37:00 -
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the heavies in his video have horrible aim...
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al nize mk2
No Skillz inc.
247
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Posted - 2015.01.09 11:39:00 -
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I wouldn't say nerf heavies but I would politely ask them to stop moaning about RE's.
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
585
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Posted - 2015.01.09 11:50:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:the heavies in his video have horrible aim...
But this is average. I don't worry about good palyers with AA on. Saxon don't sweat. More ppl can do it too without special tactics and complain.
Not much time left...
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
3637
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Posted - 2015.01.09 11:54:00 -
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You are not a heavy. You are a rooftop camper, the fact you use a heavy suit doesn't make you more heavy than a scout who use tanked scout suit. If you know what i mean...
Situational awareness also known as passive scan.
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
839
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Posted - 2015.01.09 11:55:00 -
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waaah my win button might go away. it's not that hard to be a heavy, get over yourselves.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3454
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Posted - 2015.01.09 12:38:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:QQ my suits OP and its going to be nerfed soon, which it should have been months ago, but I hate that my role may actually take skill QQ FTFY
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3454
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Posted - 2015.01.09 12:41:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:my secret anti heavy buster: min assault mk0 3 complex shield extenders 1 complex shield recharger 2 complex shield regulators 2 complex kin cats proto shotgun proto smg proto flux compact hive use keyboard and mouse. the key is to abuse the sprint speed to move around a heavy and kill the logi behind him. for that you need to be able to do quick precise turns between sprints and shoot him in the face then keep on sprinting. they heavy will at most scratch your shields if you do it right and you can keep farming kills from the logis around him because they are easy to kill. if logis are dead the heavy will simply crumble sooner or later by the damage of your team. the fit still has flux + smg combo for ranges where you cant get close and shotgun fails. avoid open fields and medium to long range combat with your speed at all cost. If you can do this props to you.
However, Im almost 100% certain you can't.
Using KB/M on a fast suit is a terrible idea because your hit detection SUCKS if you are fast with out aim assist.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
1591
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Posted - 2015.01.09 13:02:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Why all the "nerf heavies" threads? Try being one for a week, and you will see its not all that awesome.
CCP Rattati wrote: If I want to feel better about myself and get some guaranteed kills, I go sent-hmg.
Bradric Banewolf wrote:Damage? If you do that the hmg will be pointless on a sentinel, and you'll see heavies with RR's again?!
CCP Rattati wrote: Then we will increase the fitting bonus to HMG and decrease CPU/PG, like last time.
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V.
2172
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Posted - 2015.01.09 13:05:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: scout biased sh*t
I was gonna make a witty retort but I don't feel it today instead Ill just be blunt... you are an idiot who after losing his scout invincibility has decided to try and get another class(the one you were most often pitted against mind you) nerfed into the ground so you can soothe your wounded E-Peen. Stop it. It makes you look like a child throwing a tantrum, and it's bad for the game as people like you have the devs running around trying grease the squeaky wheel when they should be developing the f*cking game. I don't say this as a Heavy, so don't get your panties in a knot. I say this as someone who wants to see the game move forward.
Amarr Omnisoldier: Assault, Commando, Logistics, Scout, Sentinel at V
My faith is in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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MEDICO RITARDATO
Dead Man's Game RUST415
431
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Posted - 2015.01.09 13:13:00 -
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+1
The pen is on the table.
TheD1CK is a scrub.
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
1711
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Posted - 2015.01.09 13:50:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:Well said +1, yeah if we make them any slower it could be the nail in the coffin for the heavy. The games just too fast paced for that to happen.
Who said anything about burying. I've got the pit already dug.
TLDR : Last Dust Montage
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
1235
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Posted - 2015.01.09 14:51:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:In the words of jesus Chrysler "you're doing it wrong". Heavies go down relatively easy. Why all the "nerf heavies" threads? Try being one for a week, and you will see its not all that awesome.
You're slow, or slower than most. Overheat is ridiculous, and cool down is 10 god d*mn seconds which is long enough to get shot gunned 40 times. Everyone is in your way! Guys trying to use you as a mobile meat shield. Friendlies blocking your shots as they ridiculously strafe in front of your hmg between you and enemy heavies. (Which I just find utterly ridiculous) The friendlies don't bring ammo, links, scanners, needles, etc. All the assaults think it's the logis job only. They're only suppose to shoot.
Being a heavy isn't what it used to be. Yes there are some perks, but it's serious work now. The HMG already overheats in an instant, especially in PC. What do you want us slow movers to lose? Damage? If you do that the hmg will be pointless on a sentinel, and you'll see heavies with RR's again?! That's why we don't use the assault version. It's too weak! That's why I got almost every suit version. Because you zealots are ridiculous!
Is there anything you don't want nerfed? Instead of using the word nerfed, say tweak or balance. You noobs don't know how dangerous the word "nerf" can be in the hands of CCP! They will obliterate your weapons! I was an AR user long before you bums found the GB-9! I ran it when it wasn't cool to do. I remember the Flay lock funeral. The death of the laser rifle. Most of your currently favorite weapons have been reincarnated recently.
Now the ScR damage against armor definitely needs a tweak if we're talking about balancing weapons, but that's a whole different thread.
Heavies need to be nerfed for their own health. It is not healthy to have such a large digital rear end. It is bad for the digital heart and lungs, not to mention it can cause digital diabetes.
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
1714
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Posted - 2015.01.09 17:28:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:In the words of jesus Chrysler "you're doing it wrong". Heavies go down relatively easy. Why all the "nerf heavies" threads? Try being one for a week, and you will see its not all that awesome.
You're slow, or slower than most. Overheat is ridiculous, and cool down is 10 god d*mn seconds which is long enough to get shot gunned 40 times. Everyone is in your way! Guys trying to use you as a mobile meat shield. Friendlies blocking your shots as they ridiculously strafe in front of your hmg between you and enemy heavies. (Which I just find utterly ridiculous) The friendlies don't bring ammo, links, scanners, needles, etc. All the assaults think it's the logis job only. They're only suppose to shoot.
Being a heavy isn't what it used to be. Yes there are some perks, but it's serious work now. The HMG already overheats in an instant, especially in PC. What do you want us slow movers to lose? Damage? If you do that the hmg will be pointless on a sentinel, and you'll see heavies with RR's again?! That's why we don't use the assault version. It's too weak! That's why I got almost every suit version. Because you zealots are ridiculous!
Is there anything you don't want nerfed? Instead of using the word nerfed, say tweak or balance. You noobs don't know how dangerous the word "nerf" can be in the hands of CCP! They will obliterate your weapons! I was an AR user long before you bums found the GB-9! I ran it when it wasn't cool to do. I remember the Flay lock funeral. The death of the laser rifle. Most of your currently favorite weapons have been reincarnated recently.
Now the ScR damage against armor definitely needs a tweak if we're talking about balancing weapons, but that's a whole different thread.
I'd like to run a heavy for a day or two. Can you hook me up with average fit? Should I try to get a logi out of local to help prop me up or do you think friendles ngame are up to the task
TLDR : Last Dust Montage
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CrotchGrab 360
Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase
1883
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:21:00 -
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If heavies somehow got nerfed I'd just be able to use my Cal Sent even more easily.
The people QQing for heavy nerfs are the shotgunning scrubs who think they should survive 1V1 encounters with the heavy, they shoot them in the back and kill them a few times then cry for a nerf when they can't get the drop on them EVERY time...
Heavies can't even turn around in time to a good shotgunner.
I keep hearing "I shot the heavy in the back with a shotgun and he turned around and headshotted me in half a second" yes it happens but it's rare and it means you're a poor shot.
Always the scrubs. I'm not very good with a heavy but I know how things are.
Don't Be A Scrub, Gimme A Sub!
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CrotchGrab 360
Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase
1883
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:22:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:In the words of jesus Chrysler "you're doing it wrong". Heavies go down relatively easy. Why all the "nerf heavies" threads? Try being one for a week, and you will see its not all that awesome.
You're slow, or slower than most. Overheat is ridiculous, and cool down is 10 god d*mn seconds which is long enough to get shot gunned 40 times. Everyone is in your way! Guys trying to use you as a mobile meat shield. Friendlies blocking your shots as they ridiculously strafe in front of your hmg between you and enemy heavies. (Which I just find utterly ridiculous) The friendlies don't bring ammo, links, scanners, needles, etc. All the assaults think it's the logis job only. They're only suppose to shoot.
Being a heavy isn't what it used to be. Yes there are some perks, but it's serious work now. The HMG already overheats in an instant, especially in PC. What do you want us slow movers to lose? Damage? If you do that the hmg will be pointless on a sentinel, and you'll see heavies with RR's again?! That's why we don't use the assault version. It's too weak! That's why I got almost every suit version. Because you zealots are ridiculous!
Is there anything you don't want nerfed? Instead of using the word nerfed, say tweak or balance. You noobs don't know how dangerous the word "nerf" can be in the hands of CCP! They will obliterate your weapons! I was an AR user long before you bums found the GB-9! I ran it when it wasn't cool to do. I remember the Flay lock funeral. The death of the laser rifle. Most of your currently favorite weapons have been reincarnated recently.
Now the ScR damage against armor definitely needs a tweak if we're talking about balancing weapons, but that's a whole different thread. I'd like to run a heavy for a day or two. Can you hook me up with average fit? Should I try to get a logi out of local to help prop me up or do you think friendles ngame are up to the task
if you have nothing then militia amarr heavy is a good starting point.
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I'm just laughing at this. Over the past few days I've seen Nerf tanks, Nerf AV, Nerf logis, Nerf heavies, Nerf the HMG, Nerf rep tools. Is the game leaning towards balance? |
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TIGER SHARK1501 wrote:I'm just laughing at this. Over the past few days I've seen Nerf tanks, Nerf AV, Nerf logis, Nerf heavies, Nerf the HMG, Nerf rep tools. Is the game leaning towards balance? Might be. When everything needs a nerf, nothing does. |
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TIGER SHARK1501 wrote:I'm just laughing at this. Over the past few days I've seen Nerf tanks, Nerf AV, Nerf logis, Nerf heavies, Nerf the HMG, Nerf rep tools. Is the game leaning towards balance?
No, just a bunch of whiners. Do you want a G1 sentinel to be beating an A1/Proto 50/50? what then would be the point in skilling up at all. What do you mean by balance? Everything in the game has a counter. People would rather complain instead of think.
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Ok, I see every thread has to be a darn argu mentioned smh. I'm game for now. Responses on the way.
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:In the words of jesus Chrysler "you're doing it wrong". Heavies go down relatively easy. Why all the "nerf heavies" threads? Try being one for a week, and you will see its not all that awesome.
You're slow, or slower than most. Overheat is ridiculous, and cool down is 10 god d*mn seconds which is long enough to get shot gunned 40 times. Everyone is in your way! Guys trying to use you as a mobile meat shield. Friendlies blocking your shots as they ridiculously strafe in front of your hmg between you and enemy heavies. (Which I just find utterly ridiculous) The friendlies don't bring ammo, links, scanners, needles, etc. All the assaults think it's the logis job only. They're only suppose to shoot.
Being a heavy isn't what it used to be. Yes there are some perks, but it's serious work now. The HMG already overheats in an instant, especially in PC. What do you want us slow movers to lose? Damage? If you do that the hmg will be pointless on a sentinel, and you'll see heavies with RR's again?! That's why we don't use the assault version. It's too weak! That's why I got almost every suit version. Because you zealots are ridiculous!
Is there anything you don't want nerfed? Instead of using the word nerfed, say tweak or balance. You noobs don't know how dangerous the word "nerf" can be in the hands of CCP! They will obliterate your weapons! I was an AR user long before you bums found the GB-9! I ran it when it wasn't cool to do. I remember the Flay lock funeral. The death of the laser rifle. Most of your currently favorite weapons have been reincarnated recently.
Now the ScR damage against armor definitely needs a tweak if we're talking about balancing weapons, but that's a whole different thread. I'd like to run a heavy for a day or two. Can you hook me up with average fit? Should I try to get a logi out of local to help prop me up or do you think friendles ngame are up to the task
Pic one you like, or the racial one for you. Play to their strengths. If you're decent a logi is simply a bonus. I rarely have one. To be fair I probably have more logis that I didn't request than the ones that I did. I have the gal sentinel, and I like it the way it is. I didn't at first, but it grew on me. I used to like the amarr slot layout, but the gal layout is much more versatile. I don't absolutely have to have a logi in my rectum with the gal sent.
The Amarr is your resident brick tank sentinel. With it comes a life time of tripping over logis, taking damage, and moving like a snail?!
The Caldari sentinel is a good sentinel to me, but according to most players I've talked to it's missing something. I ran one on an alt, and loved the forge capabilities and the shield regen capability. It's the only heavy I would use the assault hmg's on. I used to run a Cal sent C-1 series with a MO-4 all the time. It's relatively quick, and the regen is insane. The problem with most cal sent players is they should've picked an Amarr sent instead due to their play styles. They all wanna be the door kicker heavy.
The gallent sentinel is NOT for brick tanking! It's also one of the best self rep platforms of all the heavies. In my opinion it ties for 1st in reps with the min heavy. The problem is players want to brick tank it. Not judging, I did it too when ccp changed the slot layouts between amarr and gallente sentinels. I continued to try to brick tank like with no success. It's proven to be better for speed, reps, and dps. Run the burst on this heavy!
The minmatar heavy is the one heavy I have absolutely no experience running with, but when it comes to running against them I'm a vet lol! They kick my *ss regularly lol! They're very fast, regen capability is grade A, and they can avoil death very well. Their slots are the most balanced for maximum versatility.
The down side to sentinels is obvious, but for people who are getting smashed by heavies I say in the words of Jesus Chrysler "you're doing it wrong".
The frontal assault with any scout and shotgun is a suicide mission, and just plain disrespectful. You are asking to get showered in bullets when you do this. Nerfing the heavy or the hmg won't fix stupid.
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Bradric Banewolf
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Bradric Banewolf vs CCP Rattati Banewolf: Why all the "nerf heavies" threads? Rattati: There are so many reasons to nerf heavies Banewolf: Try being one for a week, and you will see its not all that awesome. Rattati: If I want to feel better about myself and get some guaranteed kills, I go sent-hmg. Banewolf: If you do that the hmg will be pointless on a sentinel, and you'll see heavies with RR's again?! Rattati: Then we will increase the fitting bonus to HMG and decrease CPU/PG, like last time.
Rattati and myself have clearly seen eye to eye on most issues in this game. Oops lol!
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:QQ my suits OP and its going to be nerfed soon, which it should have been months ago, but I hate that my role may actually take skill QQ FTFY
What do you mean "my suit"? I have four.... so nerfing it won't really effect me lol! I just know what this game would look like if you nerf heavies. You've been playing a while right? You remember assault 514? Every assault suit with an AR running around killing everyone?! I don't miss that foolishness, and players are entitled to having their choice of playstyle. Not everyone wants to run ambush in assault suits?!
Now what is it you guys want nerfed? The heavy or the HMG? You say the heavy because you know the HMG has no room for nerfs already. So let's talk nerfing heavies. What are they sooooooo good at that they need to be nerfed? Holding objectives? I mean with short ranged weapons they surely aren't taking out across open fields to fight scouts. Most scouts complain because they spend all their time trolling heavies with remotes anyway. Then they're p*ssed when the heavy, with no precision or damp, out smarts them and gives them a load in the face lol!
Heavies can forge, but again are victims to the scout when he appears out of no where with a shotgun. That sidearm better be pretty solid, or you're done for. I prefer using swarms or a plasma cannon for AV especially since forges have lost their splash on the main version. Now most forging heavies are anywhere but near a point.... usually one a perch of some sort playing an AV role.... what are you doing way out there with him? Helping your team with the AV threat? I'll give you that one lol! Going after a eWAR blind easy kill by himself while you're cloaked isn't what you were doing at all....
Sentinel bonuses are great, but could you imagine heavies with no resistance? They're called commandos lol! They get shredded often, and if the commando doesn't kill you almost instantly they're toast?!
The problem isn't the heavy. Scouts just spend alot of time trying to attack everything like they weigh 10 tons. Then when they chase an assault into two of his friendly heavies they expect to escape.
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al nize mk2 wrote:I wouldn't say nerf heavies but I would politely ask them to stop moaning about RE's.
Agree 100%! Alot of heavies complain about RE's like they aren't bricked out with three logis?! How else would you like someone to stop the train?
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Jack McReady wrote:my secret anti heavy buster: min assault mk0 3 complex shield extenders 1 complex shield recharger 2 complex shield regulators 2 complex kin cats proto shotgun proto smg proto flux compact hive use keyboard and mouse. the key is to abuse the sprint speed to move around a heavy and kill the logi behind him. for that you need to be able to do quick precise turns between sprints and shoot him in the face then keep on sprinting. they heavy will at most scratch your shields if you do it right and you can keep farming kills from the logis around him because they are easy to kill. if logis are dead the heavy will simply crumble sooner or later by the damage of your team. the fit still has flux + smg combo for ranges where you cant get close and shotgun fails. avoid open fields and medium to long range combat with your speed at all cost. If you can do this props to you. However, Im almost 100% certain you can't. Using KB/M on a fast suit is a terrible idea because your hit detection SUCKS if you are fast with out aim assist.
If you haven't seen it in action you're missing out. It's totally done by guys you know! They dance in front of heavies like we're firing sunflower seeds, and in most cases can kill you without even loosing shield.
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Bradric Banewolf
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:waaah my win button might go away. it's not that hard to be a heavy, get over yourselves.
You know I started that term right? The proverbial "I win button" was cast by yours truly here in the forums.
Also, I have four proto suits to include both scouts and heavies.... you can't nerf me, and I never post simply for myself. I truly don't see how nerfing heavies needs to be on the top of CCP's sh*t list right now. They have bigger fish to fry, and until you find another job for heavies other than forge, door kicker, and point defense nerfing us won't do anything. You'll be sending heavies to the redline with tanks.
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Bradric Banewolf
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Posted - 2015.01.10 01:19:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:the heavies in his video have horrible aim...
This is a true statement, but alot of the time min assaults, like cal scouts, are terrible when it comes to hit detection.
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