DUST Search - Vehicle reintroductions, is it dead?

Tesfa Alem wrote:

Soraya Xel wrote:

I'll ask where it's at. They're working on the next release, so the hotfix work kinda fits in where time's available.

Tesfa Alem wrote:

Breakin Stuff wrote:

Thread is toast IMHO. It devolved quick starting with the jerk basically telling rattati that he's an idiot who has no business touching vehicles and aside from a few people trying to help, devolved from there.

If Rattati is particularly inclined to play nice after that I'll be shocked.

I would be much more worried if the way dust is handled is reliant on the emotional state of the Devs. If it was dropped becuse people were mean on the internet.... Something tells me CCP are more professional than that.

Well, something like that may not be based on his "emotional state", but if the devs get the idea that nothing they do with it is going to improve overall player happiness, then it's a waste of his time.

Players were happy about the reintroduction of vehicles, there was a massive buzz around Dust. Majority of posts in the hotfix echo thread and the HAV thread are not from players who do'nt find it iteresting, and all want to give feedbck. Frankly its more than twice as popular than the Roadmap 2015 PC thread.

1 month of silence later, players have become disheartened from the lack of response by the devs. I understand its the holiday season, but really, does it deserve less attention than backpedalspeed? If its dead, declare it so. If its still kicking can we have an update please?

Btw my 1.2 mil is to take HAV skill to level 5, i already roll maddys, gunlogis, and dropships with pro modules.

I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim

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Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 686	Posted - 2015.01.08 10:56:00 - [1] - Quote 4 weeks, 37 pages, and 738 posts of feedback so far. No commentary from the devs since post #17. Just asking, is it still on the table at all? This 1.2 Milliion sp i've saved up for tanks is really starting to burn a hole in my pocket. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
LudiKure ninda Dead Man's Game RUST415 186	Posted - 2015.01.08 11:13:00 - [2] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: 4 weeks, 37 pages, and 738 posts of feedback so far. No commentary from the devs since post #17. Just asking, is it still on the table at all? This 1.2 Milliion sp i've saved up for tanks is really starting to burn a hole in my pocket. Hah only 1.2? I had 17 in vehicles and I am so glad I did respec.. Now I hawe max core skills and 7 proto suits :) ( -í° -£-û -í°) `SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED`
H0riz0n Unlimit Dead Man's Game 309	Posted - 2015.01.08 12:18:00 - [3] - Quote It was a joke The KTM DuKe lives here, send a message after the "beep".One of the few vehiculist remained in dust 514
duster 35000 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 147	Posted - 2015.01.08 12:46:00 - [4] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: 4 weeks, 37 pages, and 738 posts of feedback so far. No commentary from the devs since post #17. Just asking, is it still on the table at all? This 1.2 Milliion sp i've saved up for tanks is really starting to burn a hole in my pocket. It's deader than hit....the romans. Choo Choo
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2953	Posted - 2015.01.08 12:47:00 - [5] - Quote I sure hope its not dead, I think reintroducing some of those neat vehicles would reinvigorate me to play more. Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Breakin Stuff Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 6194	Posted - 2015.01.08 12:51:00 - [6] - Quote Thread is toast IMHO. It devolved quick starting with the jerk basically telling rattati that he's an idiot who has no business touching vehicles and aside from a few people trying to help, devolved from there. If Rattati is particularly inclined to play nice after that I'll be shocked. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 2362	Posted - 2015.01.08 13:17:00 - [7] - Quote IMHO, we should really be pushing for full parity first anyway. After that start looking at releasing the old vehicle types for all four races. Amarr/Minmatar vehicles are OP (especially Minmatar speed tanks) ^The reason why CCP is afraid to release them
duster 35000 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 147	Posted - 2015.01.08 13:25:00 - [8] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Thread is toast IMHO. It devolved quick starting with the jerk basically telling rattati that he's an idiot who has no business touching vehicles and aside from a few people trying to help, devolved from there. If Rattati is particularly inclined to play nice after that I'll be shocked. I guess you can say, it would be shocking, if he did reply nicely... Choo Choo
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 14937	Posted - 2015.01.08 13:57:00 - [9] - Quote No, it's being saved for Hotfix Foxtrot. However I believe the DEVs are on vacation this time of year. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 14937	Posted - 2015.01.08 13:59:00 - [10] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Thread is toast IMHO. It devolved quick starting with the jerk basically telling rattati that he's an idiot who has no business touching vehicles and aside from a few people trying to help, devolved from there. If Rattati is particularly inclined to play nice after that I'll be shocked. The quick solution would be to hide the posts of everyone in that thread that was not being constructive, than sift through feedback from there. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND

Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 686	Posted - 2015.01.08 14:42:00 - [11] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Thread is toast IMHO. It devolved quick starting with the jerk basically telling rattati that he's an idiot who has no business touching vehicles and aside from a few people trying to help, devolved from there. If Rattati is particularly inclined to play nice after that I'll be shocked. I would be much more worried if the way dust is handled is reliant on the emotional state of the Devs. If it was dropped becuse people were mean on the internet.... Something tells me CCP are more professional than that. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5270	Posted - 2015.01.08 14:47:00 - [12] - Quote I'll ask where it's at. They're working on the next release, so the hotfix work kinda fits in where time's available. Tesfa Alem wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Thread is toast IMHO. It devolved quick starting with the jerk basically telling rattati that he's an idiot who has no business touching vehicles and aside from a few people trying to help, devolved from there. If Rattati is particularly inclined to play nice after that I'll be shocked. I would be much more worried if the way dust is handled is reliant on the emotional state of the Devs. If it was dropped becuse people were mean on the internet.... Something tells me CCP are more professional than that. Well, something like that may not be based on his "emotional state", but if the devs get the idea that nothing they do with it is going to improve overall player happiness, then it's a waste of his time. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2954	Posted - 2015.01.08 14:57:00 - [13] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: I'll ask where it's at. They're working on the next release, so the hotfix work kinda fits in where time's available. Tesfa Alem wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Thread is toast IMHO. It devolved quick starting with the jerk basically telling rattati that he's an idiot who has no business touching vehicles and aside from a few people trying to help, devolved from there. If Rattati is particularly inclined to play nice after that I'll be shocked. I would be much more worried if the way dust is handled is reliant on the emotional state of the Devs. If it was dropped becuse people were mean on the internet.... Something tells me CCP are more professional than that. Well, something like that may not be based on his "emotional state", but if the devs get the idea that nothing they do with it is going to improve overall player happiness, then it's a waste of his time. Trust me when I say that the non-vocal majority would greatly value the return of things like the Logi LAV and older tank variants, at least that is the overwhelming feeling I get from people I talk to / see on the forums. Just because a few very 'vocal' people spout all sorts of rubbish in that thread, they do not represent us as a whole. Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 686	Posted - 2015.01.08 15:04:00 - [14] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: I'll ask where it's at. They're working on the next release, so the hotfix work kinda fits in where time's available. Tesfa Alem wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Thread is toast IMHO. It devolved quick starting with the jerk basically telling rattati that he's an idiot who has no business touching vehicles and aside from a few people trying to help, devolved from there. If Rattati is particularly inclined to play nice after that I'll be shocked. I would be much more worried if the way dust is handled is reliant on the emotional state of the Devs. If it was dropped becuse people were mean on the internet.... Something tells me CCP are more professional than that. Well, something like that may not be based on his "emotional state", but if the devs get the idea that nothing they do with it is going to improve overall player happiness, then it's a waste of his time. Players were happy about the reintroduction of vehicles, there was a massive buzz around Dust. Majority of posts in the hotfix echo thread and the HAV thread are not from players who do'nt find it iteresting, and all want to give feedbck. Frankly its more than twice as popular than the Roadmap 2015 PC thread. 1 month of silence later, players have become disheartened from the lack of response by the devs. I understand its the holiday season, but really, does it deserve less attention than backpedalspeed? If its dead, declare it so. If its still kicking can we have an update please? Btw my 1.2 mil is to take HAV skill to level 5, i already roll maddys, gunlogis, and dropships with pro modules. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5271	Posted - 2015.01.08 15:06:00 - [15] - Quote As I said, I'll see where it's at. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1489	Posted - 2015.01.08 15:07:00 - [16] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: 4 weeks, 37 pages, and 738 posts of feedback so far. No commentary from the devs since post #17. Just asking, is it still on the table at all? This 1.2 Milliion sp i've saved up for tanks is really starting to burn a hole in my pocket. same bro Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
Breakin Stuff Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 6200	Posted - 2015.01.08 15:09:00 - [17] - Quote Then we need more people interested in bringing vehicles into a useful role rather than the battlefield win butan or eternal victim post constructively to drown out the idiocy. The cure for an obnoxious and relentlessly vicious minority is to come together and drown their cries out. This means both AVers who want vehicles to be easy victims and pilots who want nothing less than to be immune to infantry. The unironic statement that only pilots have any right to comment on balance has been made. If we want a real change then we need to come to some agreement as a community. Otherwise we'll be stuck with whatever we are simply handed. Regardless of whether good or bad. Or worse, the devs decide that the work isn't worth the return. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 372	Posted - 2015.01.08 16:16:00 - [18] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: 4 weeks, 37 pages, and 738 posts of feedback so far. No commentary from the devs since post #17. Just asking, is it still on the table at all? This 1.2 Milliion sp i've saved up for tanks is really starting to burn a hole in my pocket. 1. At this point we need to hear from the devs and see an updated spreadsheet
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 2697	Posted - 2015.01.08 17:52:00 - [19] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: 4 weeks, 37 pages, and 738 posts of feedback so far. No commentary from the devs since post #17. Just asking, is it still on the table at all? This 1.2 Milliion sp i've saved up for tanks is really starting to burn a hole in my pocket. Not dead I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 2697	Posted - 2015.01.08 17:53:00 - [20] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: 4 weeks, 37 pages, and 738 posts of feedback so far. No commentary from the devs since post #17. Just asking, is it still on the table at all? This 1.2 Milliion sp i've saved up for tanks is really starting to burn a hole in my pocket. same bro Not dead I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim

TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet 103	Posted - 2015.01.10 03:05:00 - [21] - Quote I'm so hoping more vehicles get rereleased.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 2702	Posted - 2015.01.10 03:33:00 - [22] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: I'll ask where it's at. They're working on the next release, so the hotfix work kinda fits in where time's available. Tesfa Alem wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Thread is toast IMHO. It devolved quick starting with the jerk basically telling rattati that he's an idiot who has no business touching vehicles and aside from a few people trying to help, devolved from there. If Rattati is particularly inclined to play nice after that I'll be shocked. I would be much more worried if the way dust is handled is reliant on the emotional state of the Devs. If it was dropped becuse people were mean on the internet.... Something tells me CCP are more professional than that. Well, something like that may not be based on his "emotional state", but if the devs get the idea that nothing they do with it is going to improve overall player happiness, then it's a waste of his time. Players were happy about the reintroduction of vehicles, there was a massive buzz around Dust. Majority of posts in the hotfix echo thread and the HAV thread are not from players who do'nt find it iteresting, and all want to give feedbck. Frankly its more than twice as popular than the Roadmap 2015 PC thread. 1 month of silence later, players have become disheartened from the lack of response by the devs. I understand its the holiday season, but really, does it deserve less attention than backpedalspeed? If its dead, declare it so. If its still kicking can we have an update please? Btw my 1.2 mil is to take HAV skill to level 5, i already roll maddys, gunlogis, and dropships with pro modules. Why are you saving 1.2mil to bring a skill you only need at level 1, up to level 5? The Marauders and Enforcers will likely only require level 3. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 2702	Posted - 2015.01.10 03:33:00 - [23] - Quote TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: I'm so hoping more vehicles get rereleased. SoonTM I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 14376	Posted - 2015.01.10 04:07:00 - [24] - Quote Neither my mental state nor vacations are affecting this. After the first 20 pages were dragged down into the useless drivel I have come to expect between vehicle and infantry discussions, I decided to let it simmer and see if it would dig itself out of the hole. And it seems to be doing so, spreadsheets being worked on etc. This initiative is full on, but without quality feedback, we will just work on it internally. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2768	Posted - 2015.01.10 04:15:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Neither my mental state nor vacations are affecting this. After the first 20 pages were dragged down into the useless drivel I have come to expect between vehicle and infantry discussions, I decided to let it simmer and see if it would dig itself out of the hole. And it seems to be doing so, spreadsheets being worked on etc. This initiative is full on, but without quality feedback, we will just work on it internally. So no Dust update for the Proteus release? Dust is there! I was real! Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 2702	Posted - 2015.01.10 04:18:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Neither my mental state nor vacations are affecting this. After the first 20 pages were dragged down into the useless drivel I have come to expect between vehicle and infantry discussions, I decided to let it simmer and see if it would dig itself out of the hole. And it seems to be doing so, spreadsheets being worked on etc. This initiative is full on, but without quality feedback, we will just work on it internally. Well like I said a little while ago man, if you or anybody else is able to tell us some more specifics, like a concrete slot layout, then stuff will be easier to work with. And I would imagine we're all 100% in agreement that the PG, CPU, shield and armor skills need to be back to what they used to be, and that is 5% per level. It would make such a huge difference in fitting capability. The Madrugar needs to be brought up to the Gunnlogi's level, not the Gunnlogi nerfed to the Madrugar's level. Hell, I had a game a couple hours ago where some MLT red dot was firing his MLT flaylock at me when I was in a Maddy - it got me to 1020 shield, and stopped my regen. That just shouldn't happen. We got the ballpark, now we need a bit of the strategy. With that, we can all move forward at a little faster pace to getting vehicles back to where they should be. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 2702	Posted - 2015.01.10 04:34:00 - [27] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Neither my mental state nor vacations are affecting this. After the first 20 pages were dragged down into the useless drivel I have come to expect between vehicle and infantry discussions, I decided to let it simmer and see if it would dig itself out of the hole. And it seems to be doing so, spreadsheets being worked on etc. This initiative is full on, but without quality feedback, we will just work on it internally. So no Dust update for the Proteus release? Proteus? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2769	Posted - 2015.01.10 04:37:00 - [28] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Neither my mental state nor vacations are affecting this. After the first 20 pages were dragged down into the useless drivel I have come to expect between vehicle and infantry discussions, I decided to let it simmer and see if it would dig itself out of the hole. And it seems to be doing so, spreadsheets being worked on etc. This initiative is full on, but without quality feedback, we will just work on it internally. So no Dust update for the Proteus release? Proteus? New Eve patch coming on Tuesday. Dust is there! I was real! Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
Miokai Zahou WarRavens Capital Punishment. 446	Posted - 2015.01.10 04:38:00 - [29] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Neither my mental state nor vacations are affecting this. After the first 20 pages were dragged down into the useless drivel I have come to expect between vehicle and infantry discussions, I decided to let it simmer and see if it would dig itself out of the hole. And it seems to be doing so, spreadsheets being worked on etc. This initiative is full on, but without quality feedback, we will just work on it internally. So no Dust update for the Proteus release? Proteus? It's the name of the next Eve Online expansion coming out on Tuesday so yeah. Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 2703	Posted - 2015.01.10 05:19:00 - [30] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Neither my mental state nor vacations are affecting this. After the first 20 pages were dragged down into the useless drivel I have come to expect between vehicle and infantry discussions, I decided to let it simmer and see if it would dig itself out of the hole. And it seems to be doing so, spreadsheets being worked on etc. This initiative is full on, but without quality feedback, we will just work on it internally. So no Dust update for the Proteus release? Proteus? New Eve patch coming on Tuesday. Ah I'm not an EVE pilot, so I wouldn't know. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim



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