No, I'm talking about entering and exiting vehicles.

If you are the pilot of the Dropship and you jump out you don't get back in, lol
So I think an exception should be ok.

No, I'm talking about entering and exiting vehicles.

You missed the point, which was to have the REs take time to set up; hold the button, complete the 'hack' cycle and then the RE is placed and primed. Void was just using your idea of the hack to enter for RE set-up.

What other options are there for the Heavy/Logi blobs?

From what I hear, the 5 second delay didn't take effect like it should have. That being said, Rattati did mention REs are meant for anti infantry traps.

Aside from tossing from a height, there is nothing wrong with REs.

Heavies are insta-death spitting machines who can't be killed by anything but another of their kind.

It takes skill to breach bravo on the gallente research map when the room is cluster ****** with heavies and logis.

Just kidding. You go R1+L1.

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Then it's damage should be nerfed.
Getting tired of people just throwing them around and blowing them up like nothing.

Now see that is how I think RE's should be alos. You set them not throw them.

If things actually worked as intended, implemented correctly and couldn't be exploited, people won't scream "nerf nerf nerf" about half the things they do.

For example, if REs couldn't be tossed out like candy on Halloween but had to be set up ahead of time, most people wouldn't care about the high damage. As it stands they can be dropped freely from above, thrown like a Frisbee for more range and restocked from Nanohives for spam. Add to that the fact that the Sentinel's resistance bonus and even the shield resistance are completely void vs REs, which I doubt is working as intended but the Devs haven't confirmed or denied either way, and it's not hard to see why there are people clamoring for a nerf to their damage.

Making changes so REs need to be set rather than thrown/dropped would remove a lot of peoples issues with them being super grenades. Making it so REs are treated like other equipment and can only be restocked from Supply Depots, rather than Nanohives, would at least cut down on the spam. If those changes were made hen the high damage wouldn't be so hard for people to accept but would also leave the REs useful as traps at chokepoints or on objectives.

Let's have CCP release the missing racial weapons first, then the HMG can be reassessed and balanced according to whatever role the new weapons make available.

EWAR Scouts with REs are difficult to counter. I can understand the rage.

I can also understand the need....they are one of the most effective ways to counter heavies and brick tanked assaults.

Let's also not forget they were nerfed recently....

That said, I've always been a fan of implementing an animation similar to the way a logi needles a friendly when placing an RE, that way they become more of a trap and less of a smart grenade.

Just going to say: I sometimes use R/Es and think they are far too powerful.


How about this, instead of nerfing damage, nerf blast radius or add a delay.

Of course it actually takes skill to Frisbee one into a large group when you are in the open, although not so much wehn throwing it into a crowded doorway or from above.

The REs work great on the Gallente Lag Facility! You know the doorway the heavies come through and the spot they camp with HMGs? 2 REs in those two spots are great traps if you control the objective.

Hey isn't my problem your bad at catch. XD

Remotes have always been deadly effective, though there was a time when they weren't used for much else beyond booby-trapping objectives. If little about the deadliness of REs has changed, what might be to blame for their increased usage?

I say we fix what's broken rather than turning blind eye or proffering excuse. Even if we outright removed REs, something else would step up to counter the Heavy Blob. Many would be quick to call for a nerfing of that new thing on account of its increased usage, and when that new thing is nerfed, the cycle will repeat with whatever follows. Such is the nature of treating signs and symptoms rather than curing root cause.

TL;DR: Fix the underlying issue. Fix Heavies and see RE usage decline.

I have every right in the world to complain.

Scouts are not even close to being as good as a heavy. Heavies are insta-death spitting machines who can't be killed by anything but another of their kind.

INB4 you stroke your E-peen about how many heavies you eat for breakfast, I don't care.

And Sentinels can't be properly fixed without the rest of their weapons being released. Once those are released and a role can be set, the HMG can be assessed properly to bring it in line with this new vision of what a Sentinel should be and do.

OK, I completely hate REs but I don't have a problem with them. It's a game mechanism.
It's not like they are invisible. If you run up on one and get your ass blown off, it's your own fault. If you let a scout run in the middle of 5 of you and lay them, you need better awareness.
Like I said, I can't stand them, it wouldn't hurt my feelings if they went away completely. But, you can't get mad at an intended game mechanism, find ways to counter it.

Nonsense. 1.7 pilots would've been dead wrong in making similar claim:

"I know my tank is OP, but you can't nerf it until until the future!
You must hold off on the nerf until after vehicle racial parity."

If something is broken, and we can fix it, then we should fix it. It isn't complicated. Should circumstances change down the road which merit reassessment, then reassessment should be made after the change in circumstances. But we cannot justify leaving something broken based upon an expectation of an undefined changes at some undefined point in the future.

If this is how things were done, then nothing would ever get done.