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Foley Jones
Huogikku Corporation Heiian Conglomerate
782
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Posted - 2014.12.30 16:43:00 -
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I'm terrible at dust and can never seem to get good...plus im ******** and tend to play alone because im anti-social
SO to counter this im curious as to whats most OP gear atm so i can be a no skilled noob..but still do some damage
SO is there a FOTM atm anyone can tell me about?
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
5782
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Posted - 2014.12.30 16:51:00 -
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Minmatar assault with an ACR is pretty broken because of strafing cockery + projectile damage profile.
Gallente assault with a BAR. The BAR, even after the small nerf, is still beastly.
Amarr assault AScR. Often overlooked recoiless shield devastator.
Can you tell I play assaults?
My advice to you, playa...
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Mex-0
265
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Posted - 2014.12.30 17:10:00 -
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Even better than a MinAssault with an ACR is a MinAssault with a mass driver or dual flay locks, especially if you can't aim well.
Meh, I give up on FW.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
6852
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Posted - 2014.12.30 17:15:00 -
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I didn't realize it wasn't still heavies with HMGs. Its been a month since I have played, are they not as popular anymore?
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Leovarian L Lavitz
NECROM0NGERS
1235
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Posted - 2014.12.30 17:16:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Minmatar assault with an ACR is pretty broken because of strafing cockery + projectile damage profile.
Gallente assault with a BAR. The BAR, even after the small nerf, is still beastly.
Amarr assault AScR. Often overlooked recoiless shield devastator.
Can you tell I play assaults? So.. Fotm is..
Heavy?
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
5787
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Posted - 2014.12.30 17:18:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:So.. Fotm is.. Heavy? I don't know about "Heavy". Commandos are just a different flavor of assault.
If you meant sentinels, well then yes, they are FotM. I don't play them personally so I couldn't comment on which sentinel is the best choice for FotM'ing (that's a verb now).
My advice to you, playa...
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Foley Jones
Huogikku Corporation Heiian Conglomerate
782
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Posted - 2014.12.30 17:22:00 -
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Kinda amazed how some super MLG tryhard has not barged his way into this thread yet and typed out a long hateful comment about how i need to stfu and get good and not use FOTM and be as good as him....
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Michael Epic
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
392
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Posted - 2014.12.30 17:28:00 -
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Foley Jones wrote:Kinda amazed how some super MLG tryhard has not barged his way into this thread yet and typed out a long hateful comment about how i need to stfu and get good and not use FOTM and be as good as him....
I love you guys <3
Those are usually the types of guys who aren't really very good at this game and need to compensate or are actually very skilled at this game and are compensating for lack of penile awesomeness.
There are so many things you can do...the assault suits are the new logi suits lol you can load them down with high and low slot equipment and make anything you want.
You can make tanked assaults, you can make assaults that hack objectives in like 3 seconds....it just depends what you want to do. Just don't turn to the dark side and obtain modded controllers or rigged kbm's and stuff. Be cheap, just not a cheater lol |
CPM Awox
xXEspeon's VillageXx
40
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Posted - 2014.12.30 17:50:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:So.. Fotm is.. Heavy? I don't know about "Heavy". Commandos are just a different flavor of assault. If you meant sentinels, well then yes, they are FotM. I don't play them personally so I couldn't comment on which sentinel is the best choice for FotM'ing (that's a verb now). Ehh I don't believe they are FOTM, because most heavies can't pull 40/3 matches like some of the really good heavies that I know. But to answer your question ever since they changed the slot layout of the Gal and Amarr Sents the amarr sent plus its HMG resistance and high HP or some of the other awesome layouts you can do (most heavies just stack plates and have no creative imagination) makes it the obvious choice. Its the only Sentinel that I have yet to spec into. That will be my project for the next couple weeks.
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1456
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Posted - 2014.12.30 17:56:00 -
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Min Assault easily. OP strafe + dual tank + Scout speed= win
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Crimson ShieId
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1660
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Posted - 2014.12.30 18:18:00 -
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Obligatory post about getting good, noobs, and no skill FoTM scrubs.
With that out of the way... There really isn't any solid FoTM combos at the moment. Heavies are still one of the most common suit choices, but recent nerfs have lowered their effectiveness to levels that can be dealt with easily... unless they're really good and have logi support. Most of the weapons have taken hits recently as well, whether that be in damage, recoil or effective range, those things that used to be defined as OP aren't so much anymore.
If you really want to get better at the game, it helps to run crappy gear. It might not seem like it at first glance, but having low health/speed/DPS really helps in the long run once you get used to it. You learn to survive, when to avoid fights and when to engage, as well as managing limited resources and I'd go so far as to say even boosting your reaction time. Using the best gear tends to have the effect of making you feel like you're invincible, that no one can possibly harm you, and the next thing you know, you're staring at the death screen with your jaw dropping as you see a militia suit managed to kill you.
I really just recommend trying to enjoy the game over chasing the best gear... unless that's what you enjoy of course, but it's usually more fun to be creative and try odd fittings in Dust than it is to simply run the best gear over and over and over again in the hopes that you'll become more skilled or score better with it.
Buuuut... that doesn't answer the question, does it...
I'd probably rank some of the best suits at the moment as the Caldari Scouts and assaults. I know the bonuses on the assault suck and the suit is overlooked, but a vast amount of players on Dust use RR's and CR's, both of which lose damage against shielding. The shield regen is also exceptionally useful. The Minmatar assaults are currently on the rise, their slot layout allows for a massive amount of versatility, from speed fits to scanning suits rivaling scouts, they're quite nice. The Amarr and Gallente sentinels are both in decent spots right now, able to get nearly 2000eHP. With a good logi behind them, they're nearly unkillable without remotes, vehicles, or the quick knifing of said logi~ I'd say the Gal assault is also a wonderful suit choice and one of the few that can easily be used at even basic levels and still be competitive.
As for weapons... RR's are in a decent spot right now. The charge up time is rough in close range, but you're not supposed to be in CQC with them now, are you? HMG's are still murderous, but the recent increases to heat buildup has made it difficult for crappy heavies to cope. Watching a heavy try to bunny hop about after his HMG overheats is hilarious. Assault rifles have been pushing back lately as well, especially the Breach variant. In terms of sidearms, bolt pistols are still exceptionally deadly if you've got the aim... or Aim Assist, to back them up. The SMG's are still dominant though in most situations, and while it may not get mentioned that often, the Magsec is an amazing little gun, underused, but very good due to the versatility it offers for a sidearm.
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
14732
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Posted - 2014.12.30 18:20:00 -
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Most people will tell you Matari Assault, but honestly I'd recommend any suit (other than Commandos & CalLogis) to you if I knew what your playstyle is.
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All Gucci
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
9
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Posted - 2014.12.30 18:22:00 -
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Min assault + ACr/Cr/TacAr or Gall assault + TacAr/Brch....Caldari and amarr are getting left in the dust....
Emperor Gucci
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Foley Jones
Huogikku Corporation Heiian Conglomerate
784
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Posted - 2014.12.30 18:24:00 -
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Well i have been running crappy gear for almost 3 years now and i still suck at the game i have access to 5 different proto weapons and 1 proto suit with proto mods
And i still die by the hands of the militia..so..eh
Bu saying this im not fishing for sympathy...call me pathetic, i really don't give 54 *****
But...i honestly think im just bad :|
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Crimson ShieId
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1660
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Posted - 2014.12.30 18:35:00 -
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Maybe you just haven't found a playstyle that suits you? What do you usually run and how do you run it? Are you the covert ops style player, do you prefer to hold your ground or move when the situation gets bad, or are you just that crazy guy every team has that constantly runs into the middle of the enemy team screaming at the top of his lungs?
I want to punch.
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Foley Jones
Huogikku Corporation Heiian Conglomerate
784
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Posted - 2014.12.30 18:44:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:Maybe you just haven't found a playstyle that suits you? What do you usually run and how do you run it? Are you the covert ops style player, do you prefer to hold your ground or move when the situation gets bad, or are you just that crazy guy every team has that constantly runs into the middle of the enemy team screaming at the top of his lungs?
Again..almost 3 years been playing
But im really a reckless kinda guy that runs heavies or assaults..mostly Heavy
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abdullah muzaffar
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
147
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Posted - 2014.12.30 19:07:00 -
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Amarr/Caldari assault with ishukone assault rrs |
Crimson ShieId
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1662
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Posted - 2014.12.30 19:26:00 -
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That's... probably your problem. XD Dust isn't the best game to be a reckless crazy, though it can be fun at times, judging by your posts, you're not enjoying it all that much. Try being a bit more conservative in your playstyle, don't rush in as much and survey the scene before moving up. No gear, no matter how good, is going to protect you from three or four people whom you blunder upon while they're having their morning tea.
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2725
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Posted - 2014.12.30 19:28:00 -
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I'm not seeing the MinAssault being that good. Sure, it's good, but no way does it stand out much against everything else. Honestly it's exactly where I'd like to see all dropsuits. I really don't see how it's mich worse than a +1k ehp triple damage modded Amarr Assault + ScR.
The best suits in the game, imo, are the Gal Scout (Cal still my favorite though), Min/Amarr/Gal Assault, Min Commando, Gal/Min Logistics, and Gal/Amarr Sentinels.
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Foley Jones
Huogikku Corporation Heiian Conglomerate
784
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Posted - 2014.12.30 19:38:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:That's... probably your problem. XD Dust isn't the best game to be a reckless crazy, though it can be fun at times, judging by your posts, you're not enjoying it all that much. Try being a bit more conservative in your playstyle, don't rush in as much and survey the scene before moving up. No gear, no matter how good, is going to protect you from three or four people whom you blunder upon while they're having their morning tea.
Well given i have ADD, i tend to want to run around and shoot things without sitting still for awhile
thus why i don't drive tanks, i wanna be in the action running towards my doom rather than sitting in a rolling bunker shooting ants
and like i said, 3 years now, if i did not truly enjoy the game i would not be here atm, i like it sometimes..just be nice to actually kill a few people here and there
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
209
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Posted - 2014.12.30 19:39:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:I'm not seeing the MinAssault being that good. Sure, it's good, but no way does it stand out much against everything else. Honestly it's exactly where I'd like to see all dropsuits. I really don't see how it's much better than a +1k ehp triple damage modded Amarr Assault + ScR.
The best suits in the game, imo, are the Gal Scout (Cal still my favorite though), Min/Amarr/Gal Assault, Min Commando, Gal/Min Logistics, and Gal/Amarr Sentinels. Agreed, I don't think min assault is FoTM, just naturally the best assault, maybe on par with the amarr assault. Like how the gal scout is naturally the best scout, and the amarr sentinel is naturally the best heavy. The cal scout is the best combat scout though. |
Timtron Victory
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
143
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Posted - 2014.12.30 19:49:00 -
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FOTM is strafing. I turned off aim assist and just use flaylock to finish anyone who sees me in my less than 300 eHP scout. I die a lot though .
Maybe I should just switch to a scrambler pistol and a mass driver but that would be too easy. I want to learn to use the flaylock
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Cavani1EE7
Murphys-Law
744
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Posted - 2014.12.30 19:49:00 -
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Imo
OverPerforming HP type: Armor
OverPerforming suits: Minmatar assault Sentinels
OverPerforming weapons: HMG Breach AR ScR on an Amarr Assault
Hope that helps
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Shield tanking is hard mode /period.
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Middas Betancore
Mantodea MC
316
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Posted - 2014.12.30 20:26:00 -
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Perhaps you should join a corp, having other players you enjoy playing with is actually the most performance enhancing u can do in dust
Teamwork is FOTM OP
"Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
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Foley Jones
Huogikku Corporation Heiian Conglomerate
784
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Posted - 2014.12.30 20:28:00 -
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Middas Betancore wrote:Perhaps you should join a corp, having other players you enjoy playing with is actually the most performance enhancing u can do in dust
Teamwork is FOTM OP
Well sometimes im anti-social and just want to play by myself and not beign forced to use a mic to talk to people when i just want to listen to music and just play
And i am in a corp.. >___>
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Middas Betancore
Mantodea MC
317
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Posted - 2014.12.30 20:35:00 -
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True sometimes u just wanna battle
Id say Ammar Logi
Work those uplinks for wp/sp/isk
Has light and sidearm slot
Enough slots for versatility
What would I know I run all caldari suits
Trouble for solo is lack of ewar support so logis can run some helpful ewar builds Your not tied to a weapon bonus Lots of fitting CPU/pg to experiment with
Solo Logis are a great team asset if played well
Some thoughts of mine
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TritusX
PH4NT0M5
72
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Posted - 2014.12.30 20:37:00 -
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Foley Jones wrote:Kinda amazed how some super MLG tryhard has not barged his way into this thread yet and typed out a long hateful comment about how i need to stfu and get good and not use FOTM and be as good as him....
I love you guys <3 u n33d to HTFU scrub yu fking wat m8? Ne3d FOTM to w1n? Fk u 1 3arned th1s lev3l of aw3s0mn3ss on my own, you should t00.
g1t gud
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2014.12.30 20:37:00 -
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Cavani1EE7 wrote:Imo
OverPerforming HP type: Armor
OverPerforming suits: Minmatar assault Sentinels
OverPerforming weapons: HMG Breach AR Cr on any suit
Hope that helps FTFY
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2808
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Posted - 2014.12.30 20:38:00 -
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Cavani1EE7 wrote:Imo
OverPerforming HP type: Armor
OverPerforming suits: Minmatar assault Sentinels
OverPerforming weapons: HMG Breach AR ScR on an Amarr Assault
Hope that helps
I'm not sure the BAR is still overperforming (or at least I don't die to it as much and I now find myself peferring the regular old AR over it), and I'd add a CR on a Min Assault as an overperforming weapon, IMO. |
P14GU3
Savage Bullet
973
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Posted - 2014.12.30 20:40:00 -
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Basically it depends on playstyle. If you are wreckless, and charge in head first, I recommend any sentinal besides caldari. If you play a little more conservative, any assault or commando can useful. If you want to hide and camp CRUs so you can go 25-0 and call yourself 1337, go cal/gal scout or minass with a cloak.
I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
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