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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
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Posted - 2014.12.30 10:09:00 -
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I don't want to mention names but just got out of a skirmish where 3 tankers and an ADS, all from big corps, redlined my team of blueberries and me in my low SP alt.It was skirmish and my team had a total of 12 kills and ended the match with 9 clones left.
I say thank you because my hatred of you ******* tankers had almost worn off, I was beginning to think that all the tears had at least a little merit. Now, my desire to watch every damn tank burn and to roast the tankers over their own burning heaps of metal is rekindled. I feel reborn.
Because, that's why.
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C-C-P Rithu
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
130
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Posted - 2014.12.30 10:25:00 -
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When life throws lemons at you........RUN!!
Can i get a tag like the DEVs?
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H0riz0n Unlimit
Dead Man's Game
280
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Posted - 2014.12.30 10:27:00 -
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Switch to AV? Maybe you dont know but those weapons are far to be useless, i dont approve tank spam in ambush and now in skirm but qith my alt i have no problem in destroy them
The KTM DuKe lives here, send a message after the "beep".One of the few vehiculist remained in dust 514
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Mejt0
Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap
634
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Posted - 2014.12.30 12:30:00 -
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One minmando on the point and vehicles will very rearely drive there.
Two minmados on the point and no vehicle will survive. They'll all be burning after 8sec.
Loyal to State. Led by Tibus Heth.
Ready for sacrafise [like Admiral Yakiya Tobil-Toba].
Ps. I have 2 minmatar slaves
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
575
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Posted - 2014.12.30 13:00:00 -
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You... call me maybe....
Not much time left...
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
6069
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Posted - 2014.12.30 13:07:00 -
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From a dedicated AV perspective:
What you describe is why I specced forge gun and never looked back.
Except for gunnlogis, vehicle spam allows me to maintain my fireball farm and rake in WP. There is nothing sweeter to a dedicated AV nerd than tanks and dropships all over the field, and the tears are sweeter than the best of aged wines.
Just accept that you are only going to be able to yo-yo gunnlogis unless there are three of you.
But a sentinel suit loaded and locked with a forge gun is a magical thing. Patience, viciousness and a willingness to fight dirty mark successful AV gunners. Skip swarms, forge guns, when skilled up are much more efficient.
Would you like to know more?
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
5765
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Posted - 2014.12.30 13:33:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Would you like to know more? Your preferred FG fitting? Message me in-game if you would rather.
My advice to you, playa...
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
5765
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Posted - 2014.12.30 13:35:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:I say thank you because my hatred of you ******* tankers had almost worn off, I was beginning to think that all the tears had at least a little merit. Now, my desire to watch every damn tank burn and to roast the tankers over their own burning heaps of metal is rekindled. I feel reborn. Attempted tagging a dropship with some swarms to scare him off. He kept rapidly flying towards the ceiling and avoiding the missiles. Ran across the map, swapped to a FG fitting, hopped a squadies' LAV back to the dropship's location, blasted the dropship a few times until he fly away. That's how much he made me hate him. I wish a blueberry would have assisted so we could have killed the guy 
My advice to you, playa...
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SILENT GIANT
FATHERS-AND-SONS
240
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Posted - 2014.12.30 14:53:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:From a dedicated AV perspective:
What you describe is why I specced forge gun and never looked back.
Except for gunnlogis, vehicle spam allows me to maintain my fireball farm and rake in WP. There is nothing sweeter to a dedicated AV nerd than tanks and dropships all over the field, and the tears are sweeter than the best of aged wines.
Just accept that you are only going to be able to yo-yo gunnlogis unless there are three of you.
But a sentinel suit loaded and locked with a forge gun is a magical thing. Patience, viciousness and a willingness to fight dirty mark successful AV gunners. Skip swarms, forge guns, when skilled up are much more efficient.
Would you like to know more?
I take a slightly different approach, but I love it when the enemy spams tanks and ads. Its the only time I get to use my pro swarms. Adv mimmando, w 2 cmplx dmg mods, pro swarms cleans up the problem quite well, and when the ground troops tries to shut you up theres a six kin acr to handle that problem.
Usually you can turn that redline match into something if its early enough in the game. When those tankers see Wyrikomi in the kill feed they usuallly dont waste another tank. Then as long as your team hasn't given up you can regain the momemtum.
A lot of big corp try to use the "shock and awe" and try to intimidate the team into not being aggressive, but if you can deny their initial strike, most will back down as they are trying to conserve isk, or worried about kdr, or whatever the excuse.
OP, whether you go forge or swarms, look at vehicles as easy wp. Just dont keep respawning and running into some tanks blaster over and over. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
5774
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Posted - 2014.12.30 15:26:00 -
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SILENT GIANT wrote:A lot of big corp try to use the "shock and awe" and try to intimidate the team into not being aggressive, but if you can deny their initial strike, most will leave the match. Fixed 
My advice to you, playa...
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
1132
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Posted - 2014.12.30 15:33:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:From a dedicated AV perspective:
What you describe is why I specced forge gun and never looked back.
Except for gunnlogis, vehicle spam allows me to maintain my fireball farm and rake in WP. There is nothing sweeter to a dedicated AV nerd than tanks and dropships all over the field, and the tears are sweeter than the best of aged wines.
Just accept that you are only going to be able to yo-yo gunnlogis unless there are three of you.
But a sentinel suit loaded and locked with a forge gun is a magical thing. Patience, viciousness and a willingness to fight dirty mark successful AV gunners. Skip swarms, forge guns, when skilled up are much more efficient.
Would you like to know more?
Don't worry, those like me will be hammering the gunnlogis with a PLC, pro gal commando with a damage mod and a fully specced PLC can do wonders in clearing the shield tanks.
/Faceplam
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Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
423
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Posted - 2014.12.30 15:50:00 -
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Tanks need buffs.
The State will always survive.
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SILENT GIANT
FATHERS-AND-SONS
240
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Posted - 2014.12.30 15:55:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:SILENT GIANT wrote:A lot of big corp try to use the "shock and awe" and try to intimidate the team into not being aggressive, but if you can deny their initial strike, most will leave the match. Fixed
Thank you, and you are correct |
Mex-0
257
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Posted - 2014.12.30 15:55:00 -
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I love watching tanks burn after I nova knife them.
Meh, I give up on FW.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
2643
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Posted - 2014.12.30 16:23:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:I don't want to mention names but just got out of a skirmish where 3 tankers and an ADS, all from big corps, redlined my team of blueberries and me in my low SP alt.It was skirmish and my team had a total of 12 kills and ended the match with 9 clones left.
I say thank you because my hatred of you ******* tankers had almost worn off, I was beginning to think that all the tears had at least a little merit. Now, my desire to watch every damn tank burn and to roast the tankers over their own burning heaps of metal is rekindled. I feel reborn.
And people want the game balanced around experiences like that. You just so happen to go into a pub against a squad of pilots, so that's not fair.
I say thank you because my hatred of you tankers had almost worn off, I was beginning to think that all the tears had at least a little merit.
Sounds like you have intermittent explosive disorder. You should see a professional about that.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
14727
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Posted - 2014.12.30 16:25:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:SILENT GIANT wrote:A lot of big corp try to use the "shock and awe" and try to intimidate the team into not being aggressive, but if you can deny their initial strike, most will leave the match. Fixed
Give me one corp in this game that actually does that.
The 1st Matari Commando
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
2643
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Posted - 2014.12.30 16:25:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:From a dedicated AV perspective:
What you describe is why I specced forge gun and never looked back.
Except for gunnlogis, vehicle spam allows me to maintain my fireball farm and rake in WP. There is nothing sweeter to a dedicated AV nerd than tanks and dropships all over the field, and the tears are sweeter than the best of aged wines.
Just accept that you are only going to be able to yo-yo gunnlogis unless there are three of you.
But a sentinel suit loaded and locked with a forge gun is a magical thing. Patience, viciousness and a willingness to fight dirty mark successful AV gunners. Skip swarms, forge guns, when skilled up are much more efficient.
Would you like to know more?
Tell us again how hard it is to kill academy grads in MLT tanks.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Toobar Zoobar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
50
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Posted - 2014.12.30 16:31:00 -
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Yet another whiny COD player. You are total cancer to this game.
Dust 514. A game about shooting people with super deadly sci-fi guns... and dancing.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
6071
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Posted - 2014.12.30 16:36:00 -
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Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:Madrugars and Somas need buffs.
Fixed that for you
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
6071
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Posted - 2014.12.30 16:38:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:From a dedicated AV perspective:
What you describe is why I specced forge gun and never looked back.
Except for gunnlogis, vehicle spam allows me to maintain my fireball farm and rake in WP. There is nothing sweeter to a dedicated AV nerd than tanks and dropships all over the field, and the tears are sweeter than the best of aged wines.
Just accept that you are only going to be able to yo-yo gunnlogis unless there are three of you.
But a sentinel suit loaded and locked with a forge gun is a magical thing. Patience, viciousness and a willingness to fight dirty mark successful AV gunners. Skip swarms, forge guns, when skilled up are much more efficient.
Would you like to know more? Tell us again how hard it is to kill academy grads in MLT tanks.
Awwww, you're so cute when you try to be clever.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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SILENT GIANT
FATHERS-AND-SONS
240
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Posted - 2014.12.30 16:51:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:SILENT GIANT wrote:A lot of big corp try to use the "shock and awe" and try to intimidate the team into not being aggressive, but if you can deny their initial strike, most will leave the match. Fixed Give me one corp in this game that actually does that.
Are you serious?
Any match I start that has a squad of any big name corp (even the one your in) pulls out their best gear to try to dominate match from start.
If opposing team takes out their tanks and ads, and a few of their proto suits, im my experience that pro squad either switches to cheaper gear or leaves.
Granted some matches are a total slaughter for both sides all the way to the end. Either both sides are using bpo's and don't care or they got the isk accounts to say f'it.
But the majority of the time one team or another can make the other one pretty much quit trying.
I'm not picking on ML but I remember a game they had us redlined w 3 tanks and I eventually took them all out, not before dying a few times myself but after the initial swatting of tanks, no one called anymore in,and the team was finally able to come back out of the redline. We lost like hell, but I wasn''t gonna sit there and get pummeled by blaster fire. Also, sometimes all that is needed to re-inspire your team to keep pushing forward is that one dumb anus who just wont give up and finally pushes the big boys back. So there is an example, if I get into a match today where it happens I'll tell that story too.
Battlefield morale goes a long way, though. Just seeing a full squad or two on enemy team is enough psychological warefare to know your about to get handed your ass and make entire team not try as hard. Am I wrong? |
Vesta Opalus
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
285
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Posted - 2014.12.30 18:58:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:Gunnlogis need nerfs and then maybe we can look at madrugers and somas and see if they need a buff. Fixed that for you
Double fixed.
Lets not pretend the current vehicle meta is balanced, and lets not pretend AV even enters into the equation with the gunnlogis as they are now. Gunnlogis are just invincible juggernauts when fit correctly right now, and its just dumb. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
6084
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Posted - 2014.12.30 19:04:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:Gunnlogis need nerfs and then maybe we can look at madrugers and somas and see if they need a buff. Fixed that for you Double fixed. Lets not pretend the current vehicle meta is balanced, and lets not pretend AV even enters into the equation with the gunnlogis as they are now. Gunnlogis are just invincible juggernauts when fit correctly right now, and its just dumb.
Doesn't change the fact that maddies and somas are completely gimped
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
1097
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Posted - 2014.12.30 20:04:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:I don't want to mention names but just got out of a skirmish where 3 tankers and an ADS, all from big corps, redlined my team of blueberries and me in my low SP alt.It was skirmish and my team had a total of 12 kills and ended the match with 9 clones left.
I say thank you because my hatred of you ******* tankers had almost worn off, I was beginning to think that all the tears had at least a little merit. Now, my desire to watch every damn tank burn and to roast the tankers over their own burning heaps of metal is rekindled. I feel reborn.
I joined DUST during 1.7 so my hatred of tanks was forged during that dark time. That disdain has never left me.
I hate red tanks. I even hate blue tanks. 99% of the individuals who run tanks do so to farm easy infantry kills. Period.
They will try and tell you otherwise, of course, but no no. I have eyes. I see your sins.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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Mejt0
Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap
639
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Posted - 2014.12.31 03:37:00 -
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And it's still Std tanks vs Pro AV.
Ps. FG ain't that much better than Swarms. You know why? Because FG require from you fat suit. Fat suit is slow. Slow target is easy to snipe with rail/missiles.
Loyal to State. Led by Tibus Heth.
Ready for sacrafise [like Admiral Yakiya Tobil-Toba].
Ps. I have 2 minmatar slaves
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Harpyja
Legio DXIV
2234
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Posted - 2014.12.31 05:35:00 -
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Here's your solution to multiple tanks: one damage modded railgun Sica/Gunnlogi and a little bit of brains
"By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
40
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Posted - 2014.12.31 07:30:00 -
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Next time just say "shoo you bad bad tanks", that oughta do the trick  |
Lupus Wolf
Minmatar Republic
91
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Posted - 2014.12.31 07:43:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:
I joined DUST during 1.7 so my hatred of tanks was forged during that dark time. That disdain has never left me.
I hate red tanks. I even hate blue tanks. Some but not all of the individuals who run tanks do so to farm easy infantry kills.
FTFY
I run tanks mainly when another tank enters the field. It's much more fun than standing around with a swarm launcher.
Redundant usernames FTW
Go home Damage Indicator, you're drunk
Good, good... let the nanites flow through you
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Genral69 death
C0NTRA UNIT
RUST415
39
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Posted - 2014.12.31 10:15:00 -
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C-C-P Rithu wrote:When life throws lemons at you........RUN!!
Throw remotes back |
Vicious Minotaur
1640
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Posted - 2014.12.31 10:21:00 -
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C-C-P Rithu wrote:When life throws lemons at you........RUN!!
WRONG! That's not what you should do.
I am a minotaur.
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Acturus Galaxy
Tank Crew Omega
347
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Posted - 2014.12.31 11:36:00 -
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I love tanks on the field even if redlined by the other team.
It provides a much more dynamic and unpredictable environment, having four HAVs is no insurance for winning. Yesterday our team had four HAVs with some infantry as passengers, three snipers and only three foot soldiers left to capture the domination letter. The other team had two, maybe three swarm launchers that kept the tanks away all match, we lost big time. Next match the other team had four HAVs and completely destroyed my team.
Overall the tanks are in a descent balance, I can go 8/0 in a cheap 71k isk soma while I in other matches are insta gibbed beginning of the match by another much more skilled tanker (I can only use basic stuff). It might be that a mlt swarmer keeps my cheap soma at a distance but at the same time I force the other team to dedicate one resource as anti AV.
As long as tanks are cheap I am fine by having them blown up fairly easy if not being careful.
And most important:
The wp bonus for damaging vehicles positively influence the number of infantry deciding to spawn with AV even if they have no chance of destroying the skilled tank driver. My dual plc basic commando can in some matches get close to 1500-2000 wp with only a handful of kills, all wp gained from shooting at vehicles of all kinds keeping them away from my team.
Only change I would like to see is better small turrets and decrease the infantry kill potential of the large turrets. Have the large turrets be mainly anti vehicle/structure and the small turrets for anti infantry. That would force tankers to either have high defensive power from the modules as the gunnlogi today and close to zero threat towards infantry or lower defense but a major threat towards infantry with two additional gunners inside. Or somewhere between with only one small turret. How rare is it not to see a gunnlogi that actualy have small turrets installed. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
16357
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Posted - 2014.12.31 11:47:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:Nothing Certain wrote:I don't want to mention names but just got out of a skirmish where 3 tankers and an ADS, all from big corps, redlined my team of blueberries and me in my low SP alt.It was skirmish and my team had a total of 12 kills and ended the match with 9 clones left.
I say thank you because my hatred of you ******* tankers had almost worn off, I was beginning to think that all the tears had at least a little merit. Now, my desire to watch every damn tank burn and to roast the tankers over their own burning heaps of metal is rekindled. I feel reborn. I joined DUST during 1.7 so my hatred of tanks was forged during that dark time. That disdain has never left me. I hate red tanks. I even hate blue tanks. 99% of the individuals who run tanks do so to farm easy infantry kills. Period. They will try and tell you otherwise, of course, but no no. I have eyes. I see your sins.
Whenever I am bored enough to come back to Dust I always farm infantry. I don't really do much else. Just queue for OMS and Domination Matches. More often than not I'll see another tank on the field and might get a good fight out of it.....otherwise it's basically back to the biomass grinder.
I've recently been comparing myself to Duna in terms of how much of douche I think I am except I've decided I'm worse since I don't care about ISK or KDR and will keep calling in tanks.....
07 Gents until Atiim or Breaking stops me.....
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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CrotchGrab 360
Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase
1802
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Posted - 2014.12.31 13:47:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:I don't want to mention names but just got out of a skirmish where 3 tankers and an ADS, all from big corps, redlined my team of blueberries and me in my low SP alt.It was skirmish and my team had a total of 12 kills and ended the match with 9 clones left.
I say thank you because my hatred of you ******* tankers had almost worn off, I was beginning to think that all the tears had at least a little merit. Now, my desire to watch every damn tank burn and to roast the tankers over their own burning heaps of metal is rekindled. I feel reborn.
frustrates me when this happens on accounts other than my main (this one) as I have proto FG 3 complex damage mods and prof 5, I will destroy any and every tank and waste as much ISK as it takes.
but it always happens in a 144K proto suit on an account with no AV.
I don't know why I should be forced to spec into AV on every single one of my accounts.
anyway when against any tank remember, nothing but the best AV should be used.
Eenka from Reptoids pissed me off by mounting my tank and running my module down, shooting me whilst I couldn't shoot him, he was in the next game so I held him in the redline all game until he recalled his tank.
there's nothing more satisfying than farming 1000s of WP from tanks and letting them get ZERO kills the entire game
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